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Resevoir Hogs
02-01-2006, 09:37 AM
From the Canadian Army Official Website

SHILO, Manitoba — To support an increased mission in Afghanistan, artillery units will be deploying with a new howitzer. Last month, A Battery, 1st Regiment, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (1 RCHA), positioned four of the new M777s behind the officers' mess for a ceremonial first shoot. The senior gun in the corps artillery fired the first round.

This detachment, commanded by Sergeant Paul Dolomont, is the same that fired the last round from an M109 before it was removed from service in 2005.

"It sent a proud chill up my back, it's the start of a new era. This gun gives us the mobility that we'll need in the terrain of Afghanistan and a big punch on the ground," said Sgt Dolomont after the shoot.

The key features of the M777 include:
large calibre;
lightweight;
range and accuracy;
air portability; and
ability to fire conventional and precision munitions.

Major Bruno Di Ilio, Project Director of the lightweight 155 mm towed howitzer system describes the M777 as "the best lightweight towed howitzer in the world."

The ability to fire precision munitions is a valuable asset with the Triple 7, especially where an action may occur in built-up areas.

"It allows us to deliver rounds on a target and minimizes the possibility of collateral damage to property or population that may be near the target area," said Maj Di Ilio.

In 2006, Brigadier-General David Fraser, commander of 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group, will command the multinational brigade in Regional Command South, in Afghanistan.

"This gun system is going to be very important to us in helping to support the Afghan National Army, who we'll be helping to train and conduct operations with," said BGen Fraser.

This new system will be deployed to a combat environment for the first time with Canadian soldiers.

Article and photos by Master Corporal Dennis Power

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Images/6_1/2006_12_27_M777_M.jpg

We are very fortunate to now have this in inventory. Top of the line kit, this is, and hopefully the beginning of a whole set of new capabilities.

Hellfish
02-01-2006, 09:59 AM
I think you guys got it before anyone else did. I know the Army and Marines have been waiting on this thing for quite some time.

Resevoir Hogs
02-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I think you guys got it before anyone else did. I know the Army and Marines have been waiting on this thing for quite some time.

Actually we got our from the US Army.

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/6_1_1_1.asp?id=845

Hellfish
02-01-2006, 10:05 AM
I didn't think that the US Army had any units operating the M777 yet. I still see the M198 everywhere. Maybe you guys got prototype or pre-production models in a hurry for your Afghan mission?

Resevoir Hogs
02-01-2006, 10:33 AM
I didn't think that the US Army had any units operating the M777 yet. I still see the M198 everywhere. Maybe you guys got prototype or pre-production models in a hurry for your Afghan mission?

I'm not sure on those exact details. Only that they came from the US army. Doesn't it say in the video? I'm at college now so I can't watch it and hear what it says.

Resevoir Hogs
02-01-2006, 10:38 AM
here's some cool pics of the gun, I think it looks badass.
http://www.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_M777_4.jpg
http://www.machinedesign.com/Content/Issue/10630/bdemat1.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2005-09-18/U1335P27T1D320406F3DT20050918095752.jpg
http://www.baesystems.com/gallery/land/images/M777-LTWT-HOWITZER-2_hi.jpg

chrisp1j
02-01-2006, 12:12 PM
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-artym777.htm

Great Canadian link to the weapons system....

Accurate to 10m at 40km? For an arty piece, thats pretty damn good.

Yeoman
02-01-2006, 12:17 PM
god I love this thing, thank goodness we've got em!
Greg

Count Lippe
02-01-2006, 12:30 PM
Didn't the Brits get the first ones?

Ratamacue
02-01-2006, 01:35 PM
I think you guys got it before anyone else did. I know the Army and Marines have been waiting on this thing for quite some time.The Marines already have them too. Not sure how many though, or how long it'll take to replace the M198.

Hydro
02-01-2006, 01:40 PM
Didn't the Brits get the first ones?



I think our ones are still being played with by the eggheads. We've got an idea of a porteed (carried round on the back of a wagon like Caesar or Archer) version bouncing around IIRC.

fantassin
02-01-2006, 01:43 PM
Yes, the Caesar just came back from the UK where it left a good impression from what I've heard...

Hydro
02-01-2006, 01:48 PM
Doesn't surprise me, Caesar appears to be a good weapons system. Simple and effective.

fantassin
02-01-2006, 01:51 PM
The French army has ordered 72 Caesar instead of upgrading the AUF1 SP guns to AUF2 standard

szr
02-01-2006, 05:50 PM
The Marines already have them too. Not sure how many though, or how long it'll take to replace the M198.
I MEF was first to get the M777 with 3rd Battalion, 11th Marines recieving theirs, May of last year. 2/11 followed in August. Camp Lejeune will start seeing the new pieces in June when the 10th Marines start recieving theirs.

JoaMei
02-01-2006, 05:53 PM
So if they dont have M109 any more, do they have another self propelled gun?

Supe
02-01-2006, 06:19 PM
This detachment, commanded by Sergeant Paul Dolomont, is the same that fired the last round from an M109 before it was removed from service in 2005.

Interesting. I didn't know the Canadian's had the Paladin. Does anyone know if the Canadian Gov is considering an SPG like the Archer or the Caesar as a replacement for the loss of the M109?

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_Bofors_Archer_Artillery_lg.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/

guest
02-01-2006, 06:28 PM
Some options being considered:

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-artyindirect.htm

Resevoir Hogs
02-01-2006, 09:07 PM
No there is no current self propelled gun in service now. However some are being considered as the post says above.

pAt
02-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Interesting. I didn't know the Canadian's had the Paladin. Does anyone know if the Canadian Gov is considering an SPG like the Archer or the Caesar as a replacement for the loss of the M109?

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_Bofors_Archer_Artillery_lg.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/

i have videos from their last shoot

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/pat

Supe
02-02-2006, 01:33 AM
Are the Paladin's to be mothballed, sold off or scrapped? The Pakistanis bought 115 M109A5's from the U.S in a recent buy - they might be interested in extra vehicles... (great for attrition)