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kraf001
02-02-2006, 11:52 PM
http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/bbcpoll06-3.html

looking at this poll one might wonder how media effects ppl from different countries... looking at broad contrast like Iran being disliked by most of the world while they like most of the world should make us worried... most Iraqis see America as a bad influence while most Afghans see Iran as a good influence... I see a lot of contirdaction in this poll, if it's a good thing or a bad thing only time will tell...

Sgt.Axeman1224
02-03-2006, 12:17 AM
interesting polls. great find

Kilgor
02-03-2006, 12:33 AM
X2 thanks, very good

stuntman
02-03-2006, 12:51 AM
Good post! Shows how much people are sheep..

MBG
02-03-2006, 12:58 AM
Great post. Look at Nigeria's very positive view towards all the countries except Iran.

shocker1
02-03-2006, 01:05 AM
It is a shame the world feels that way about America since America is a mixture of the world population. Seems ironic too with the flood of people who want to live in the US. Great post, good information.

Roaming East
02-03-2006, 01:28 AM
Seems America digs everyone, even the folks who like to spit on us...

kraf001
02-03-2006, 01:31 AM
Seems America digs everyone, even the folks who like to spit on us...
A common ground between Iranians and Americans... well there is that anti-gay UN resolution thing as well:oops:

stuntman
02-03-2006, 01:41 AM
^^ Don't forget the death penalty also.

melon
02-03-2006, 01:45 AM
A common ground between Iranians and Americans... well there is that anti-gay UN resolution thing as well:oops:


Yeah that, and the Beirut Bombings in 1983 that killed 220 US Marines and 21 additonal US servicemen.

If your looking for common ground, why not start there?

Roaming East
02-03-2006, 01:48 AM
im sure they are still sore about us supporting Iraq in that little 10 year disagreement they had back in the day...

melon
02-03-2006, 01:54 AM
Perhaps a little earlier then?

444 days.

There is plenty of common ground between us.

You may be too young to have lived through it. I am not.

kraf001
02-03-2006, 01:57 AM
Yeah that, and the Beirut Bombings in 1983 that killed 220 US Marines and 21 additonal US servicemen.

If your looking for common ground, why not start there?
what the hell are you on about.. I was agreeing with him on the fact that Iranians and Americans seem to like other countries even if those countries don't like them back... I see this as a point of agreement between these 2 and then I was merely fun poking at both countries (Iran and US) which sided together in a recent UN anti-Gay agenda...


if you want to bring **** out about a "non-proven" influence of Iranian intelligence in Beirut bombing carried out by “Arabs” then you have much to worry about since Americans "themselves" shoot down an Iranian commercial plane killing 300 Iranian "civilians"... add to this the coup against Mossadegh and supporting a monster like Saddam... if it is not all enough look out the window from Whitehouse now and see the MEK animals who are the biggest known group to ever terrorize Iran walking around freely asking you to join them on their quest to kill more Iranians.... well I had no intention to start a pissing contest but it seems that this is the only language you understand and that is "hate"!

Kilgor
02-03-2006, 01:59 AM
im sure they are still sore about us supporting Iraq in that little 10 year disagreement they had back in the day...

I find this very puzzling too.

Why Iraqis like the Iranians so much, they fought one of the bloodiest post ww2 conflicts.

kraf001
02-03-2006, 02:04 AM
I find this very puzzling too.

Why Iraqis like the Iranians so much, they fought one of the bloodiest post ww2 conflicts.
number of reasons:

1. Iraq was the aggressor.
2. Saddam was always the leader of Sunnis and the idea of war against Iran was never a Shiia or Kurd idea but they had to go with it.
3. Iraq and Iran share thousand years of common history under united empires.
4. Iranians didn't use WMDs on Iraqis.
5. well treatment of Iraqi refugees.
6. shiia Islam
many more...

jmatucd
02-03-2006, 02:12 AM
im sure they are still sore about us supporting Iraq in that little 10 year disagreement they had back in the day...

but you are forgetting we armed and 'supported' the Iranians as well with missiles and no doubt parts

remember Iran-Contra?

usmajunk
02-03-2006, 03:06 AM
The one that almost made my eyes pop out is that China finds the US's influence to be mainly negative, while a good portion of our economy is invested in thier country. How much money is the US pouring into China?
they should at least respect that.

joshfox0
02-03-2006, 04:49 AM
HOORAH the majority of Finns like us english! success the play is working p-)

Atlantic Friend
02-03-2006, 04:59 AM
HOORAH the majority of Finns like us english! success the play is working p-)

They mainly love your avatar, I guess ! ;)

Atlantic Friend
02-03-2006, 05:00 AM
The one that almost made my eyes pop out is that China finds the US's influence to be mainly negative, while a good portion of our economy is invested in thier country. How much money is the US pouring into China?
they should at least respect that.

And how much Chinese money is pouring into the US economy ?

It's a poll about subjective perception of other countries, not about levels of investment !

kraf001
02-03-2006, 05:40 AM
The one that almost made my eyes pop out is that China finds the US's influence to be mainly negative, while a good portion of our economy is invested in thier country. How much money is the US pouring into China?
they should at least respect that.
ever heard of a thing called "Taiwan"... Chinese take that real seriously!

joshfox0
02-03-2006, 07:14 AM
They mainly love your avatar, I guess ! ;)
rofl touche touche

joka
02-03-2006, 09:32 AM
Majority of Finns find China's influence more positive than the US.. . :roll:

Edit: Actually that's a tad wrong formulated. According to the survey, majority of Finns find both China's and the US's influence mainly negative. But China is seen as a less "evil", which is still embarrassing.
*Hides in shame*

Threelions
02-03-2006, 11:08 AM
and everybody loves canada!

Great post and a great find! Stats are good fun to interpret, although there are allways a great number of variables involved in them. For instance on the day a poll was taken perhaps american soldiers had a mistake and hurt civilians. As this is the last thing people remember before the poll it could lead to more negetive outcome.

The approval ratings of the united states are quite fascinating however. '

Cheers,
Paul

kraf001
02-03-2006, 11:22 AM
and everybody loves canada!

Great post and a great find! Stats are good fun to interpret, although there are allways a great number of variables involved in them. For instance on the day a poll was taken perhaps american soldiers had a mistake and hurt civilians. As this is the last thing people remember before the poll it could lead to more negetive outcome.

The approval ratings of the united states are quite fascinating however. '

Cheers,
Paul
tell me about it... Iran's all time high in polls was 98 and 99 polls because of their world cup appearance and the fact that ppl saw with their own eyes that Iran NT had nothing in common with Saudi Arabia NT... I think ppl realized back then that Iranians don't have horns and tails as the media claimed and they were certainly nothing like the Muslim fanatics that media paints them out to be... this is why it is crucial for Iran to make the WC in 2006 and unfortunately that is the same reason for most anti-Iran parties calling for Iran to be banned from the world cup...

LaoSexMachine
02-03-2006, 11:47 AM
It's better to be feared then loved.................

Atlantic Friend
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
It's better to be feared then loved.................

That's what the Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans, Soviets, etc. thought too, and as we can all see, this policy served them well, for they are among the most powerf...the most fea...the rich...heck, the most absent countries in the world !

LaoSexMachine
02-03-2006, 11:52 AM
That's what the Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans, Soviets, etc. thought too, and as we can all see, this policy served them well, for they are among the most powerf...the most fea...the rich...heck, the most absent countries in the world !

Nothing last forever. Nothing.............

Atlantic Friend
02-03-2006, 11:58 AM
Nothing last forever. Nothing.............

No, but usually being loathed and feared does not seem a great way to last...

LaoSexMachine
02-03-2006, 12:00 PM
No, but usually being loathed and feared does not seem a great way to last...

your right, not in this time and age

Maskirovka
02-03-2006, 12:07 PM
Majority of Finns find China's influence more positive than the US.. . :roll:

Edit: Actually that's a tad wrong formulated. According to the survey, majority of Finns find both China's and the US's influence mainly negative. But China is seen as a less "evil", which is still embarrassing.
*Hides in shame*

But what do you finns got against the indians (not native americans, people who live in India)? I think India in many ways is a rolemodel considiring its basic conditions in this crazy world...

futurepilot2004
02-03-2006, 12:18 PM
Typical BBC, the map claims that Ireland was involved in the poll but we really weren`t :bash:

khukuri
02-03-2006, 12:37 PM
WTF. why is india seen so negative?!

I would like to see more countries!!!

LaoSexMachine
02-03-2006, 12:40 PM
WTF. why is india seen so negative?!

I would like to see more countries!!!

It's probably because a lot of them are loosing those call center jobs to India. JMO

Threelions
02-03-2006, 01:32 PM
WTF. why is india seen so negative?!



Probably something to do with going to the bathroom after a firey vindaloo.

Cheers,
Paul

toki
02-03-2006, 02:07 PM
Weird! No country sees Irans influence more negative then Germany. And this survey was done in 2004. And Iran is more positive towards the US then Germany (towards the US).

Kekkonen
02-03-2006, 08:02 PM
and everybody loves canada!

That's like a lecture I was listening to once about the social situation in Mexico, USA and Canada. He started with talking about Mexico and all the problem they have had and still have. Then he moved on to Canada and said... "well, there is not much to say about Canada, there hasn't happened that much there".

Found that pretty funny.

kraf001
02-03-2006, 08:50 PM
Weird! No country sees Irans influence more negative then Germany. And this survey was done in 2004. And Iran is more positive towards the US then Germany (towards the US).
actually:


The poll of 39,435 people was conducted for the BBC World Service by the international polling firm GlobeScan together with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland. The 33-nation fieldwork was coordinated by GlobeScan and completed between October 2005 and January 2006.


the 2004 it mentions is trying to say that the Russia and China went down since the 2004 poll.

SHAM
02-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Bit suprised to see the poles and flip flops so positive about america...or maybe not suprised.
got to love argentinas view on the UK, i imagine many of them couldnt pick it out on a map:)
No irish views..not suprising,,,would burst too many bubles no doubt:)

Beykoz
02-04-2006, 12:36 AM
got to love argentinas view on the UK, i imagine many of them couldnt pick it out on a map:)
That would have all to do with Falklands. :)


joka,
Polls, more often than not, are as useful as **** on a bull.

There is no point in dwelling on the numbers, as in, Finland %19 for, 65% against USA and %24 for, 54% against China. Some votes were collected face to face, some were by phone. Finland had 1069 voters, Germany had 1006 voters. Germany's population is ~82mil, Finland's population is ~5mil. Were the votes collected all over the country, or from one major city...?

On the other hand, polls are good to show the trends around the world.
It's quite easy to see the opinions of people on US and Japan.

http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/images/USA.pnghttp://www.globescan.com/news_archives/images/japan.png

AceoFBase
02-04-2006, 12:59 AM
WTF. why is india seen so negative?!

I would like to see more countries!!!

I'm not sure.
Even the people of India didn't seem to have a positive view of themselves.
Only 47% of the people in India had a positive view of India's influence on the world.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb06/ViewsCountries_Feb06_quaire.pdf

I think that's undeserving.
I also think Iran gets an undeservedly bad rep internationally and was surprised at how low Germany and Italy viewed Iran.

I guess they should stop stoning people to death and hanging people for homo******ity and other offenses. That's not good PR.

STIG
02-04-2006, 04:30 AM
Me thinks the poll results should be taken with a grain of salt. I mean what would a farmer working in India know about finland or vice versa. The only opinion they might form is through media which half of the time reports sh*t. Also it is interesting to note that the poll results show a deviation of +/-2.5% to 4.0% ( for the statistically inclined) which in my opinion is quite a large error margin and also the poll fails to specify the strata of the society they have taken into consideration. Also I have observed that the view of the people of particular country also coincides with the view of their government. Any thoughts people?

tanneyman
02-04-2006, 05:20 AM
And how much Chinese money is pouring into the US economy ?

It's a poll about subjective perception of other countries, not about levels of investment !
in a perfect world yes, but this obviously isnt a perfect world
great find on the article tho, very interesting although some of the poll results dont make much sense

maple.leaf
02-04-2006, 05:20 AM
“It appears that world public opinion does not look kindly on governments engaging in suspicious nuclear activities as is the case of Iran, becoming more authoritarian as in the case of China and Russia, frustrating the needs of their immigrants as in the case of France, or occupying another country without international approval as in the case of the US. On the other hand countries and regions that engage the world primarily through soft forms of power such as the case of Japan and Europe tend to get good marks.”

Says it all.

Beykoz
02-04-2006, 05:40 AM
what would a farmer working in India know about finland or vice versa. The only opinion they might form is through media which half of the time reports sh*t. I could ask you the same question just by swapping the word India with US.
What would a farmer in US know about Finland...?
When it comes to being led by media (local), i'd propose US being one of the biggest offenders.



Also I have observed that the view of the people of particular country also coincides with the view of their government. Any thoughts people? The obvious contradictory one to that is the Australia.
The Aus Government are one of the favourite allies of US, but the public polls hardly reflect that. Similar results from Britain as well.

If you were meaning Sth Korea's opinion of China, China's opinion of Japan, Argentina's of Britain, etc... i agree, but the reason goes back to years of dismay in between the countries mentioned.

The things that stick out are, US has bad rep, Japan has good rep, Europe has very good rep and African nations favour everybody.

Weasel
02-04-2006, 05:48 AM
That's what the Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans, Soviets, etc. thought too, and as we can all see, this policy served them well, for they are among the most powerf...the most fea...the rich...heck, the most absent countries in the world !
roflroflroflroflrofl

I laughed my ass off.

Weasel
02-04-2006, 05:51 AM
WTF. why is india seen so negative?!

I would like to see more countries!!!
Poverty, hunger, child labour, conflict with Pakistan. Just to name a few.

kraf001
02-04-2006, 05:58 AM
the saddest thing is that as oppose to what the media reports from Iran, Iranians show that they are not full of hatred for the world quiet the contrary world hates them while they are willing to look at the world from a different window that is presented by the media’s propaganda... usually when you are asked if a country has positive or negative effect in the world you automatically think of the ways that country’s policies are effecting your own country... while Iran has no political influence in China, India, Europe, Africa or America it certainly has economical influence in those countries in most of them which it is positive (actually I can't think of a negative one)... for example Indians should be thankful to Iran for giving them hope for resolving their issues with Pakistan after years only made possible through the natural gas deal... Chinese should be happy that Iran is selling them oil, gives them jobs (building metro or highways in Iran) and doesn't interfere with the way the country is ran unlike many other countries... but what we actually see is that Indians and Chinese simply ignore what actually is happening and look at the last thing they heard in media... as I mentioned before Iran's all time high was after 98 soccer WC and another event for Iran to get good marks from the world was after the Bam earthquake and ppl from around the world voted in favor of Iran merely out of pity for the victims... which is really sad!! German Nazis once controlled/provoked ppl through their "media" rhetoric and we are reliving the same mistakes... living in a world that ppl only believe in what they see/hear in the news.. :-(

Pulsar
02-04-2006, 06:17 AM
wtf! filipinos love the US more than canadians? :bash:

tanneyman
02-04-2006, 04:00 PM
the saddest thing is that as oppose to what the media reports from Iran, Iranians show that they are not full of hatred for the world quiet the contrary world hates them while they are willing to look at the world from a different window that is presented by the media’s propaganda... usually when you are asked if a country has positive or negative effect in the world you automatically think of the ways that country’s policies are effecting your own country... while Iran has no political influence in China, India, Europe, Africa or America it certainly has economical influence in those countries in most of them which it is positive (actually I can't think of a negative one)... for example Indians should be thankful to Iran for giving them hope for resolving their issues with Pakistan after years only made possible through the natural gas deal... Chinese should be happy that Iran is selling them oil, gives them jobs (building metro or highways in Iran) and doesn't interfere with the way the country is ran unlike many other countries... but what we actually see is that Indians and Chinese simply ignore what actually is happening and look at the last thing they heard in media... as I mentioned before Iran's all time high was after 98 soccer WC and another event for Iran to get good marks from the world was after the Bam earthquake and ppl from around the world voted in favor of Iran merely out of pity for the victims... which is really sad!! German Nazis once controlled/provoked ppl through their "media" rhetoric and we are reliving the same mistakes... living in a world that ppl only believe in what they see/hear in the news.. :-(


the poll was based on political policy not economic. often times people believe what they see in the news because it is their only source of information on that topic. not everyone can fly around the world to experiance stuff first hand.

cut
02-04-2006, 06:50 PM
Typical BBC, the map claims that Ireland was involved in the poll but we really weren`t :bash:

it's not the BBC's map :bash: