Danish Embassy set light to.

[joshfox0]

In syria.

DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN THIS TOPIC.
if it turns into a flamewar or if this si considered flamebait please lock its mods

[Lurps]

In syria.

DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN THIS TOPIC.
if it turns into a flamewar or if this si considered flamebait please lock its mods They will move it. But that news is facked up, there seems no end ti this.

[joshfox0]

They will move it. But that news is facked up, there seems no end ti this.
yes i was wodnering if it should be in politics but setting light to things dosn't sound like politics lol. well move it if needs be

[phasio]

the embassies of chile, sweden, denmark is on the first, second and third floor. so now they have pissed of 3 countries

[joshfox0]

the guards didn't even try to stop it O_O

[Far]

isn't that like an act of war seeing that the embassy of any country is considered national boundry?

[alexz]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/757/dam02d1ie.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[sups]

****ing savages.

[Lurps]

isn't that like an act of war seeing that the embassy of any country is considered national boundry? Yes, they could have legally shot them.

[phasio]

now they have attacked the embassy of norway in damaskus.

[Lurps]

now they have attacked the embassy of norway in damaskus. Finland is left, its close by also.

[Argyll]

Is this Military related?

[Darth Vidar]

Norwegian Embassy in Syria is also reported to have been stormed by the mob and set on fire.

Pictures from Damascus, don’t know which Embassy:

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/456/456813/ambass4.jpg

http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00363/SYRIA-DENMARK-ISLAM_363871h.jpg

[Thor]

the embassies of chile, sweden, denmark is on the first, second and third floor. so now they have pissed of 3 countries
The syrian ambassador has been called up to the Foreign Department.

The Foreign Minister sounded pretty pissed saying "totally unacceptable" four times in 30 seconds. To bad we don't have a carrier group, she'll have to settle with Södertälje. p-)

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0501/05/laila.jpg

[Morboute]

time to build a carrier group then. p-)

[Turhapuro]

The FM sounded pretty pissed saying "totally unacceptable" four times in 30 seconds. To bad we don't have a carrier group, she'll have to settle with Södertälje. p-)
Like swedish social democrats would have balls to to anything more than send angly letters to middle east...

[Javehn]

Hmm , attacking of embassy is pretty much cassus beli .
Nice to see you are taking this easy guys :D

[askDNA]

Yes, they could have legally shot them.

that's the last thing they're suppose to do.

Does anyone know what happened to the embassy workers? I've heard all the US embassies have "soccer fields" which really are meant for helicopter landings if something like this happened.

[Darth Vidar]

You dont need a carrier group to get even, it only takes a well aimed molotov-coctail and an arab Embassy.

If this continue to escalate I`m sure someone crazy enough will try do excactly that.

[Enduring Freedom]

....
Does anyone know what happened to the embassy workers?............

Nothing happened to them. They weren't at work. It's a day off.

[Thor]

Like swedish social democrats would have balls to to anything more than send angly letters to middle east...
I don't like social democrats, but I would actually not underestimate them in issues regarding national integrity.

[Lurps]

Good analysis of the situation, by a muslim. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4678220.stm

[Argyll]

Yes very good article,and his 3 points are very substantial too

[Darth Vidar]

All Norwegian Embassy personell with family-members are safe and will be evacuated to Beirut,Lebanon as soon as possible.

[Andreas]

To bad we don't have a carrier group,
Well as earlier stated those sweedes are pretty crafty, when considering smaller countrys, the sweedes are probably one of the nations that could pull something of in that respect.

ON TOPIC:
Im just wondering, the two attacks that have happend dident result in any injuries on the embassy employes.
But if the attacs had happend on a bussy workday, im thinking we could have seen things get much worse.
Im glad I dont have to see the Norwegian ambasador strung up "Falluja style"

Im quite pissed of about the whole affair, but I fear we havent seen the end of this. Not even close...

But I have to repeat what I posted earlier this week:
"C`mon, a goddamn drawing!!??"


Cheers
Andreas

[Hullebullen]

ON TOPIC:
Im just wondering, the two attacks that have happend dident result in any injuries on the embassy employes.
But if the attacs had happend on a bussy workday, im thinking we could have seen things get much worse.
Im glad I dont have to see the Norwegian ambasador strung up "Falluja style"

Cheers
Andreas

I'd wager that the nordic countries have either pulled all their diplomatic personel or ordered them to sit tight in the living compounds (I know that at least in Saudiarabia, most westerners live together in special compounds with more security) for now. It does seem like this is going to get worse before it gets better...

[Resurrection]

The Swedish FM has demanded the "security we are entitled to". Wonder what that would be... just more armed guards or something totally different?

[khukuri]

what a shame,,, this have been going on to far for too long... what a bunch of idiots.

the article was good,

And andreas, I wish to use my freedom of expression about your avatar, but I might get banned, so I guess I wont.

[towelie]

Well looks like the 10th crusade is coming to head

[Enduring Freedom]

The Swedish FM has demanded the "security we are entitled to". Wonder what that would be... just more armed guards or something totally different?
According to The Vienna Convention (http://www.un.int/usa/host_dip.htm) article 22-2 the receiving state is obligatet to provide sufficient protection for the embassies. What's sufficient??...well that's a question of definition.

But in this case the receiving state has definately failed their obligation.

The Vienna Convention article 22-2:
The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity.

[Resurrection]

Yes, they could have legally shot them.
You've got to put yourself in the security guard's shoes though. How smart would it be to shoot at a crowd of at least 100? They'd all be rushing at you after the first shot. Then other questions pop up such as what they are equipped with and how many security guards there were, etc.

But as you said, they could have legally shot them.

[Lurps]

Like you could protest about anything in Syria without goverment aproval. l:roll:

[Resurrection]

According to The Vienna Convention (http://www.un.int/usa/host_dip.htm) article 22-2 the receiving state is obligatet to provide sufficient protection for the embassies. What's sufficient??...well that's a question of definition.

But in this case the receiving state has definately failed their obligation.

The Vienna Convention article 22-2:
The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity.

Thanks for the info mate. It'd be interesting to see what solution she comes up with. Btw, has the Danish/Norwegian FM said anything about this?

[Thor]

Well, I was obviously being sarcastic about he carrier group before. There will of course not be any such response. But I really can't recall the last time there was such a swift and firm response from the government.

It's also important to point out that the goverment is currently in "congressional hearings" regarding their weak and late response with the Tsunami disaster last year. This will affect their doings in this new situation.

However there will for sure be long-term effects of this and the military part of that is probably new tools for global power projection.

[Kekkonen]

Some more photos from dn.se that I didn't see posted here earlier (probably were in some other thread I missed, so here is some mud);

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/51/89/01/brandklick5463.jpg
Well atleast they sent these guys... (were probably afraid that fire would spread :roll:)

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/51/89/01/brandklick3463.jpg
Translation someone?

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/51/89/01/brandklick6298.jpg
Something that will appear in the next Jihad DVD released all over Europe


But I really can't recall the last time there was such a swift and firm response from the government.

Then you have a bad memory. Kosovo - Serbia - Anna Lindh ring any bells? The reason why the Swedish government dears to lash out against Syria like this is of course because Syria isn't any major trading partner, and are already under massive attack from the international community about just everything. It's like kicking on someone that is already down.

[Thor]

This would not have happened with any of our major trading partners..

Kosovo, probably, or after 9/11..

[Enduring Freedom]

Thanks for the info mate. It'd be interesting to see what solution she comes up with. Btw, has the Danish/Norwegian FM said anything about this?
The danish FM has complain to the syrian FM about the syrian polices failure to stop to the mob fron entering the embassy.

The FM has ordered the families of the embassy staff out of Syria and the embassy staff will be reduced to a minimum for the time being.

[joshfox0]

just poping in to say thanks to argylle for moving it to the appropriate section i wasn't really sure where to put it :). thanks again.

[Snoshi]

There it goes..

[Doc12]

Good analysis of the situation, by a muslim. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4678220.stm

"It is the satirical intent of the cartoonists, and the association of the Prophet with terrorism, that is so offensive to the vast majority of Muslims."
And yet some muslims are calling out for a new 9/11 and burning embassies...

[khukuri]

"It is the satirical intent of the cartoonists, and the association of the Prophet with terrorism, that is so offensive to the vast majority of Muslims."
And yet some muslims are calling out for a new 9/11 and burning embassies...


yet those who are burning flags are not the majority, read youre own quote next time....

[Frank the soldier]

The President of the IRAN , is the "new Adolf H. " since 1933

Wehret den Anfängen !!!

[Resurrection]

The President of the IRAN , is the "new Adolf H. " since 1933

Wehret den Anfängen !!!
What does this have to do with Iran's president?

[Kekkonen]

What does this have to do with Iran's president?

That the Iranian president has talked about stopping all trade with countries where newspapers has published these cartoons. Seems like people like him just don't get this with independent newspapers, and that the state and the population in those countries doesn't have anything to do with it.

[Greek soldier]

From www.in.gr (http://www.in.gr)

http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content5/Photo/681849_b.jpg

Copyright: Associated Press

(In Greek)
http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=681849&lngDtrID=245

[Resurrection]

That the Iranian president has talked about stopping all trade with countries where newspapers has published these cartoons. Seems like people like him just don't get this with independent newspapers, and that the state and the population in those countries doesn't have anything to do with it.

Ahh okay thanks for the info.

[Argo AdAm]

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/51/89/01/brandklick3463.jpg
Translation someone?
Wait a minute. I'll try:
"Isss...laaaa...mmm is a reli...gionnnn of peeeea...ce" Yes, I did it! "Islam is a religion of peace"
Or something like this...

[Doc12]

yet those who are burning flags are not the majority, read youre own quote next time....

I didn´t say the majority of muslims react that way... I was only referring to the paradox of being upset because your prophet is depicted as a terrorist and at the same time promoting terrorist acts in the name of that same prophet.

[shaheen]

Wait a minute. I'll try:
"Isss...laaaa...mmm is a reli...gionnnn of peeeea...ce" Yes, I did it! "Islam is a religion of peace"
Or something like this...


it says ( we demand that all embassies of countries that newspapers insalted the phrophet be closed)

[Lurps]

I didn´t say the majority of muslims react that way... I was only referring to the paradox of being upset because your prophet is depicted as a terrorist and at the same time promoting terrorist acts in the name of that same prophet. LOL, yes, they should think about that. :)

[Sarajevo071]

And andreas, I wish to use my freedom of expression about your avatar, but I might get banned, so I guess I wont.

Let me try khukuri since you are soo scared (even that they insulting you and what you believe all the time):

Burn, baby, burn!


Ps.
Andreas, you are an jack**s.

[wiking]

Look what the bastards did to the norwegian coat of arms :-(
http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1139086580173_942.jpg

There will be counter-protests soon, and then most likely all the protesters will be tossed in jail under the racism paragraph. Isn't it lovely when your government is doing their best to be politically correct :bash:

Anyone got balls enough to submit the cartoon in question to T shirt Hell or somewhere else?

[Navy]

Let me try khukuri since you are soo scared (even that they insulting you and what you believe all the time):

Burn, baby, burn!


Ps.
Andreas, you are an jack**s.

You little pice of ****. Where is the respect for the countries that saved you from the serbes? Im sorry the serbes didnt put a bullet in your monkey head.

[joshfox0]

DEAR MODS THIS TOPIC CAN BE CLOSED NOW
The discussion has gone
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for all our sakes
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thanks
josh

[wiking]

DEAR MODS THIS TOPIC CAN BE CLOSED NOW
The discussion has gone
as far as it can before becoming a slagging match
for all our sakes
close it
thanks
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So post 9\11 or after Fallujah, yanks can bitch and whine and shout as much as they want. But when OUR embassys are burned, we get told to shut up, suck it up and back the fvck off.

Bloody lovely. :fork:

[DE_Six]

Let me try khukuri since you are soo scared (even that they insulting you and what you believe all the time):

Burn, baby, burn!


Ps.
Andreas, you are an jack**s.

It's a jacka**, not an.

Jacka**.

[Apathy]

So post 9\11 or after Fallujah, yanks can bitch and whine and shout as much as they want. But when OUR embassys are burned, we get told to shut up, suck it up and back the fvck off.

Bloody lovely. :fork:

I support you. These people have gone too far and you have a right to express your anger.

[Sarajevo071]

You little pice of ****. Where is the respect for the countries that saved you from the serbes? Im sorry the serbes didnt put a bullet in your monkey head.

They try.

And no one save us, you moron. For three years you stand on side lines waiting for serbs to finish us and on the end you step in... Not for us or "democratic" values but cause all that mujahedins who try to radicalize us and US and Europe didn't want to have Palestine in their hands. That's reason. You put to us and enforced arms embargo while serbs try to kill us. Why did you need 3 1/2 years to "help" us and only 3 months to send boots on the ground in East Timor where Christian was attack from Muslims?!

I have respect for people and soldiers (and all those muhajedins) who help us but not for their governments. And you, you are full of sh**t.

Ps.
It's SERBS, not SERBES. Write english here.

[Sarajevo071]

It's a jacka**, not an.

Jacka**.

thank you.
: )

[Apathy]

They try.

And no one save us, you moron. For three years you stand on side lines waiting for serbs to finish us and on the end you step in... Not for us or "democratic" values but cause all that mujahedins who try to radicalize us and US and Europe didn't want to have Palestine in their hands. That's reason. You put to us and enforced arms embargo while serbs try to kill us. Why did you need 3 1/2 years to "help" us and only 3 months to send boots on the ground in East Timor where Christian was attack from Muslims?!

I have respect for people and soldiers (and all those muhajedins) who help us but not for their governments. And you, you are full of sh**t.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/apathy18/1135736352842.jpg