Who is a mujaheedin?

[Inquisitor]

I'd just like to know your opinion about who is a "mujaheedin" , who can you label as a "mujaheedin".

Please share your views,since I see a lot of people use this term applied to a lot of people.

[abncougar]

Massoud, the Lion of Pajir (SP?) he was a true freedom fighter. and technically, OBL was part of the mujaheedin against the Soviets, but he's just a bastard now.

[Inquisitor]

Massoud, the Lion of Pajir (SP?) he was a true freedom fighter. and technically, OBL was part of the mujaheedin against the Soviets, but he's just a bastard now.

I'm afraid you misunderstood me,but maybe I asked the question wrong.

Why can you label him as a mujaheedin? how can someone "become" a mujaheedin?

[abncougar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen

[Inquisitor]

ok than a very simple question

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/6048/00002753240010bf.jpg

these 2 are muslims,besieged by christians.

would you call them mujaheedins?

[Cp6uH]

since you're such an expert on the balkans, inquisitor, why did you then ask what is a mujaheedin?

[Inquisitor]

since you're such an expert on the balkans, inquisitor, why did you then ask what is a mujaheedin?

read my first post srbun.

I want to know on what basis do people call someone a mujaheedin.Btw no I don't pretend to be an expert.

[Zarathustra]

A muslim who intend to extend islam throughout the world with AK47 ?

[Inquisitor]

A muslim who intend to extend islam throughout the world with AK47 ?

interesting,and what if he is defending his religion from an attack?

[RBIH_Troop]

A mujahideen is a individual who fight's for his land and fight's in the name of god. Real Mujahideen don't attack and kill Women, Children and elder's but only aggresor's of their land's.

[CG51]

Flamebait!

don't respond to this thread....

[RBIH_Troop]

Flamebait!

don't respond to this thread....


Umm.. Why not? It's actually good to teach people what a Mujahideen really is.

[JJHH]

Massoud, the Lion of Pajir (SP?) he was a true freedom fighter. and technically, OBL was part of the mujaheedin against the Soviets, but he's just a bastard now.

You are wrong! After the Russians left Astan Mujahadin started battleing each other. Some joined the Taliban, others joined the Northern Alliance..

You think our indigenous allies in Astan are basterds too?

[cinoeye]

Massoud, the Lion of Pajir (SP?) he was a true freedom fighter. and technically, OBL was part of the mujaheedin against the Soviets, but he's just a bastard now.
So when mujahedin fights others than US, they are freedom fighter;when fight US than they are bastards?:roll:

[cinoeye]

ok than a very simple question

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/6048/00002753240010bf.jpg

these 2 are muslims,besieged by christians.

would you call them mujaheedins?
No those are not mujahedins.

[JJHH]

So when mujahedin fights others than US, they are freedom fighter;when fight US than they are bastards?:roll:

All Mujahadin who became Taliban are basterds.

[U-S-S-R]

Mujaheddin = muslims taking up arms against Christians in the name of islam for underlying political / economic reasons

[CG51]

Umm.. Why not? It's actually good to teach people what a Mujahideen really is.


I was refering to the way the author of the thread was trying to direct the responses...

[U-S-S-R]

All Mujahadin who became Taliban are basterds.

The Taliban (taliban means student) movement was very well alive when the great and gallant US stepped in and supported it in Afganistan. Let's not forget about the thousands of madrassa's (islamic schools) that were built with CIA money all around Pakistan and Afganistan.

The only good muslim fighters were members of the Northern Alliance in Afganistan.

[JJHH]

Mujaheddin = muslims taking up arms against Christians in the name of islam for underlying political / economic reasons

The term "mujahedeen" became popular in the Western media to describe various armed fighters who subscribe to militant Islamic ideologies, although there is not always an explicit "holy" or "warrior" meaning within the word.

I consider the "mujahedeen" in the war against Russia freedom fighters, the true mujahadeen. These days all muslim scum calls itself "mujahedeen".

Do your homework people.

[U-S-S-R]

The term "mujahedeen" became popular in the Western media to describe various armed fighters who subscribe to militant Islamic ideologies, although there is not always an explicit "holy" or "warrior" meaning within the word.

I consider the "mujahedeen" in the war against Russia freedom fighters, the true mujahadeen. These days all muslim scum calls itself "mujahedeen".

Do your homework people.

Oh please, enlighten me, why were they 'freedom fighters'? Because they imposed the Taliban regime after the US left? What goes around, comes around. The same holy fighters as you call them have massacred thousands of americans. Think before you call them freedomfighters.

By the way, the term mujahedin is not new. It was also used during the Russian intervention in Afganistan to describe those fighters. That's over 20 years ago.

Funny how you defend them only because they were supported by the Land of the Free. Don't forget that our great US was also supportive of the dictatorial regime of the Shah in Iran, the murderous government in South Vietnam or several deathsquads in South America. Obviosuly some homework needs to be done.

Doe jij jouw huiswerk maar. Tenzij je ook echt met Afganen (of Russen) gepraat hebt die gediend of gewoond hebben in Afganistan tijdens de Russische missie in Afganistan.

[One?]

Mujaheddin = muslims taking up arms against Christians in the name of islam for underlying political / economic reasons

Congratulations on the most ignorant post of the day!

Mujahideen is not only taliban and afghanistan. RBIH_Troop explained it. You want to believe your media, or what "you think is right" then go ahead. Just don't post your bull**** interpretation here.

[U-S-S-R]

Congratulations on the most ignorant post of the day!

Mujahideen is not only taliban and afghanistan. RBIH_Troop explained it. You want to believe your media, or what "you think is right" then go ahead. Just don't post your bull**** interpretation here.

I shouldn't post it because you don't approve it? rofl rofl rofl

[RBIH_Troop]

Oh please, enlighten me, why were they 'freedom fighters'? Because they imposed the Taliban regime after the US left? What goes around, comes around. The same holy fighters as you call them have massacred thousands of americans. Think before you call them freedomfighters.

By the way, the term mujahedin is not new. It was also used during the Russian intervention in Afganistan to describe those fighters. That's over 20 years ago.

Funny how you defend them only because they were supported by the Land of the Free. Don't forget that our great US was also supportive of the dictatorial regime of the Shah in Iran, the murderous government in South Vietnam or several deathsquads in South America. Obviosuly some homework needs to be done.

Doe jij jouw huiswerk maar. Tenzij je ook echt met Afganen (of Russen) gepraat hebt die gediend of gewoond hebben in Afganistan tijdens de Russische missie in Afganistan.


Son you don't even know the definition of Mujahideen yet you are here writing about it. Mujahideen in Chechnya are the true mujahideen. They fight for their land's, and what does your nation fight for? Chechnya's oil. Chechen mujahideen had no connection to the killing's of the innocance in Sept. 11. It was the taliban that are to blame and Osama Bin Laden who is not a Mujahideen since he has commited those barbaric crime's. The US support's Chechen's because Russia continue's to arm Iran so the US is just doing pay back if you ask me. You keep thinking Chechen fighter's are terrorist's but take look at this site.
www.russian-genocide-over-chechen-people.blogspot.com
Warning: Graphic images.

Do you see how nice Russia threat's Chechen civilian's? Russia is the attacker and Chechen fighter's are the defender's.

Hitler, Putin = Same S***

[Inquisitor]

No those are not mujahedins.

....why not lol?

By the way, the term mujahedin is not new. It was also used during the Russian intervention in Afganistan to describe those fighters. That's over 20 years ago.

nope USSR the term mujaheedin is used in the Quran, thus it has some 1500 years

[U-S-S-R]

Son you don't even know the definition of Mujahideen yet you are here writing about it. Mujahideen in Chechnya are the true mujahideen. They fight for their land's, and what does your nation fight for? Chechnya's oil. Chechen mujahideen had no connection to the killing's of the innocance in Sept. 11. It was the taliban that are to blame and Osama Bin Laden who is not a Mujahideen since he has commited those barbaric crime's. The US support's Chechen's because Russia continue's to arm Iran so the US is just doing pay back if you ask me. You keep thinking Chechen fighter's are terrorist's but take look at this site.
www.russian-genocide-over-chechen-people.blogspot.com (http://www.russian-genocide-over-chechen-people.blogspot.com)
Warning: Graphic images.

Do you see how nice Russia threat's Chechen civilian's? Russia is the attacker and Chechen fighter's are the defender's.

Hitler, Putin = Same S***

- not worth it -

[cinoeye]

What problems do we have here?

[Inquisitor]

See this? It means: NOT WELCOME

http://www.chatten.nl/profimage.php/prs_image/840769/1/

I tought it was the simbol of the trinity.

@ cinoeye:

looks like we are shifting into the chechen conflict I hope we won't but I know some trolls ( ;) ) want to create a flame war so well I give up

[American Patriot]

mujahid is someone who faught the evil empire in Afghanistan. now there's only pseudo-mujahids

[U-S-S-R]

....why not lol?


nope USSR the term mujaheedin is used in the Quran, thus it has some 1500 years

Yes, obviously. But I was reacting to his statement that it was just a fad in western media.


The term "mujahedeen" became popular in the Western media to describe various armed fighters who subscribe to militant Islamic ideologies, although there is not always an explicit "holy" or "warrior" meaning within the word.

I consider the "mujahedeen" in the war against Russia freedom fighters, the true mujahadeen. These days all muslim scum calls itself "mujahedeen".

[U-S-S-R]

mujahid is someone who faught the evil empire in Afghanistan. now there's only pseudo-mujahids

Mujahid is someone who is fighting the Evil Empire in Iraq.

Now, how does it feel?

[RBIH_Troop]

Fact is 'Mujahideena' mean's a Holy Warrior not Terrorist, Taliban, Killer, Anti-West, Racist, Extremist, Woman beater, Child killer etc. Jihad mean's 'Struggle' not Fight against nonmuslim's, Jew's, Freedom, Western life, Women, America or people in particular. A 'Jihadist' is a individual that fight's Jihad(The Struggle), belive it or not but a Jihadi is not just a fighter in a Holy War but a fighter for survival, freedom, life. For example if someone is a cop and his job is to catch drug dealer's then that mean's that the cop is fighting a 'Jihad' or 'struggle' on drug's.

[Cabbage]

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/6048/00002753240010bf.jpg



I see a man with a cheap suit and another with a bad moustache. Other than that, this picture doesn't tell me anything.

[cinoeye]

Fact is 'Mujahideena' mean's a Holy Warrior not Terrorist, Taliban, Killer, Anti-West, Racist, Extremist, Woman beater, Child killer etc. Jihad mean's 'Struggle' not Fight against nonmuslim's, Jew's, Freedom, Western life, Women, America or people in particular. A 'Jihadist' is a individual that fight's Jihad(The Struggle), belive it or not but a Jihadi is not just a fighter in a Holy War but a fighter for survival, freedom, life. For example if someone is a cop and his job is to catch drug dealer's then that mean's that the cop is fighting a 'Jihad' or 'struggle' on drug's.

Ok, I understand your point.
But what about those who realy whant to kill Christians, blow up bulidings.....?

[Cp6uH]

btw inquisitor, its Srbin..

[One?]

I shouldn't post it because you don't approve it? rofl rofl rofl


ha ha ha aren't you a funny one. No don't post because you don't what the term means, because your ignorant, and because you are bitter that your army got its ass kicked by a bunch of rag tag fighters :)

[One?]

Ok, I understand your point.
But what about those who realy whant to kill Christians, blow up bulidings.....?

Those are ****ed up individuals who have their own interpretation of islam. They believe that anyone who isn't in their group is a disbeliever and killing them is ok. They believe they should spread islam by violence and anyone that tries to stop them should be killed regardless if they are muslim or not.

RBIH_Troop again explains the correct term yet some of you don't want to understand it.

[Skeletor]

Mujahid is someone who is fighting the Evil Empire in Iraq.

Now, how does it feel?

This is true. Mujahideen are not limited to fighting for one Western power or another. Their only true allegiance is to God. Sadly in this age of disinformation it is next to impossible to make a distinction between a just insurgent or an unholy Terrorist without being there at the time and knowing the individuals involved. For me the Mujahideen in Afghanistan were the most noble they didn't care about the politics of it they just wanted to fight and punish the Invaders. U-S-S-R it was not a war against Christianity it was a war against a foreign invader (Also the Soviets were Athiest were they not?). However, I have come to the conclusion that there are noble Mujahideen in Iraq fighting America, another foreign invader and I'm sure this could extend to other theatres of war involving Muslims such as Kashmir, Chechnya etc... Those who do not resort to Terrorism or involving Civilians in the conflicts.

[zg18]

Jebali vas Mudžahedini,vama Bošnjacima oni ne trebaju,rađe gledajte kako živite,ti ljudi vam sigurno neće pomoć da živite u miru sa Hrvatskom i Srpskom braćom,kažem braćom jer jesmo braća.

I apologiese for writting on my language.

[U-S-S-R]

This is true. Mujahideen are not limited to fighting for one Western power or another. Their only true allegiance is to God. Sadly in this age of disinformation it is next to impossible to make a distinction between a just insurgent or an unholy Terrorist without being there at the time and knowing the individuals involved. For me the Mujahideen in Afghanistan were the most noble they didn't care about the politics of it they just wanted to fight and punish the Invaders. U-S-S-R it was not a war against Christianity it was a war against a foreign invader (Also the Soviets were Athiest were they not?). However, I have come to the conclusion that there are noble Mujahideen in Iraq fighting America, another foreign invader and I'm sure this could extend to other theatres of war involving Muslims such as Kashmir, Chechnya etc... Those who do not resort to Terrorism or involving Civilians in the conflicts.

I wholehartedly disagree. The term mujahedin is an ancient term, so you can replace Christian by a modern word like atheist or whatevery you want. The fact stays the same, they are against non-muslims and will do anything (babykilling, raping, murdering etc. Just look at what bosniaks did to Serbs in the 90's) to achieve their goal.


Really, I'm tired of balkan terror-wannabe's and western relativists giving excuses for chechen and afghan mujahedin and picturing mujahedin as some noble warrior. These mujahedin are nothing but societies degenerates, believing that their deformed vision of islam will give them a better afterlife. Try speaking to some educated afghans who actually lived in Afganistan during and after Russian intervention. Hear what they have to say, before making claims that Soviets were just 'spreading communism'.



Jebali vas Mudžahedini,vama Bošnjacima oni ne trebaju,rađe gledajte kako živite,ti ljudi vam sigurno neće pomoć da živite u miru sa Hrvatskom i Srpskom braćom,kažem braćom jer jesmo braća.

I apologiese for writting on my language.

Very refreshing. ;)

[zg18]

U-S-S-R to be a mujahedeen is very honorable in Islam ,but today most of "mujahedeens" are terrorist ,they are using this therm to achieve their goals,in one word they are:SCUM.I dont know whats holy in Beslan massacre,but i know very noble muslim people,very good friends and i belive that there are many muslims who know true mean of that to be mujahedeen.

[cinoeye]

Jebali vas Mudžahedini,vama Bošnjacima oni ne trebaju,rađe gledajte kako živite,ti ljudi vam sigurno neće pomoć da živite u miru sa Hrvatskom i Srpskom braćom,kažem braćom jer jesmo braća.

I apologiese for writting on my language.
Way to go Cro bro'! :)

[U-S-S-R]

U-S-S-R to be a mujahedeen is very honorable in Islam ,but today most of "mujahedeens" are terrorist ,they are using this therm to achieve their goals,in one word they are:SCUM.I dont know whats holy in Beslan massacre,but i know very noble muslim people,very good friends and i belive that there are many muslims who know true mean of that to be mujahedeen.

Really I can't think of anything noble a mujahedin would do. The muslims I have deep respect for are hardworking people, well intergrated into Western society just making a living and not bothering anyone with their religion.

These self-proclaimed fighters for the islam are outcasts, unable to make a living and seeking a place where they belong. Might aswell be a criminal hiphop gang or a neo-nazi club. Same ****, different name.

[Inquisitor]

Jebali vas Mudžahedini,vama Bošnjacima oni ne trebaju,rađe gledajte kako živite,ti ljudi vam sigurno neće pomoć da živite u miru sa Hrvatskom i Srpskom braćom,kažem braćom jer jesmo braća.

I apologiese for writting on my language.

it depends on who you consider a mujaheedin ;) since technically all the muslims in the Bosnian army in 1992-1995 were mujaheedins

[zg18]

Maybe,but assume you know what i mean ;).

Do you include a small numbers of Serbs and Croats who fougth in Armija BiH to be mujahedeens also?

[RomanS]

Son you don't even know the definition of Mujahideen yet you are here writing about it. Mujahideen in Chechnya are the true mujahideen. They fight for their land's, and what does your nation fight for? Chechnya's oil. Chechen mujahideen had no connection to the killing's of the innocance in Sept. 11. It was the taliban that are to blame and Osama Bin Laden who is not a Mujahideen since he has commited those barbaric crime's. The US support's Chechen's because Russia continue's to arm Iran so the US is just doing pay back if you ask me. You keep thinking Chechen fighter's are terrorist's but take look at this site.
www.russian-genocide-over-chechen-people.blogspot.com
Warning: Graphic images.

Do you see how nice Russia threat's Chechen civilian's? Russia is the attacker and Chechen fighter's are the defender's.

Hitler, Putin = Same S***

You are still not BANNED ???

I believe Chechnya is not your conflict, never was and never will. But since you are bringing the websites with genocide. Allow me to post some things from the ENCYCLOPIDEA

QUOTES are taken directly from the sourse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chechnya


Unlike, say, Ukraine, Chechnya was always Russian territory. Grozny, in fact, is a Russian fortress (by Russians for Russians) built to protect trade routes and the nearby borders from Chechen raiders who were simply all those people "expelled" for their crimes from "official" tribes and gathered together to attack anything they can get profit from. I don't want to sound offensive and indeed I am not, but Chechens never had their land, their country etc. They lived on Russian Empire's/USSR/Russian Federation's territory. Now I don't think if, say, California or Texas wanted to be independent, they'd get as much support and justification (sp?) of their actions as Chechens do from the international community. And don't forget they consistently slaughtered Russians in nearby lands which is a historical fact. Russian Forces, on the other hand, maybe being overly militaristic at times, never resorted to simply killing civilians.

Need I remind you what was happening in Chechnya between 1991-1994?

so please STOP THE FLAMING about things that are FOREIGN TO YOU. hint (if you dont know, simply dont say anything about it)

[RBIH_Troop]

You are still not BANNED ???

I believe Chechnya is not your conflict, never was and never will. But since you are bringing the websites with genocide. Allow me to post some things from the ENCYCLOPIDEA

QUOTES are taken directly from the sourse

Need I remind you what was happening in Chechnya between 1991-1994?

so please STOP THE FLAMING about things that are FOREIGN TO YOU. hint (if you dont know, simply dont say anything about it)


Blah, Blah, Blah. All you ever do is talk about something that you have no evidance nor article's on, accept Propaganda one's. Find me a source on BBC, CNN, MSN that talk's about how Chechen's killed during 1991-1994. If you want this conversation to stop then you quit mentioning Chechen's as terrorist's. Those pic's sure hurt to look at huh? Truth hurt's. I know who the Terrorist's really are. Again, if you feel like you don't want to continue then we will just move on. You have your opinion and I have mine, and we can't change each other's opinion. By the way you started Flaming, you came in this thread and started backing Anti-Chechen quote's. Get out of this thread because I never go in on your Russian one's so stay out of this one. Choice is your's.

PS: Wikipedia is a buch of bullcrap and that link to the site I posted show's that Russian's constantly kill civilian's. Wikipedia also call's all Chechen fighter's as Terrorist's which is something a Russian would say. And that Wikipedia source is just one man's opinion, not fact's.

[RomanS]

Blah, Blah, Blah. All you ever do is talk about something that you have no evidance nor article's on, accept Propaganda one's. Find me a source on BBC, CNN, MSN that talk's about how Chechen's killed during 1991-1994. If you want this conversation to stop then you quit mentioning Chechen's as terrorist's. Those pic's sure hurt to look at huh? Truth hurt's. I know who the Terrorist's really are. Again, if you feel like you don't want to continue then we will just move on. You have your opinion and I have mine, and we can't change each other's opinion. By the way you started Flaming, you came in this thread and started backing Anti-Chechen quote's. Get out of this thread because I never go in on your Russian one's so stay out of this one. Choice is your's.

PS: Wikipedia is a buch of bullcrap and that link to the site I posted show's that Russian's constantly kill civilian's. Wikipedia also call's all Chechen fighter's as Terrorist's which is something a Russian would say. And that Wikipedia source is just one man's opinion, not fact's.

YOU
Chechen war experience 0

Me
Chechen war experience 0

YOU
Chechen war connected to your birthplace 0

ME
Chechen war connected to your birthplace 1


YOU
Close friends or relatives that participated in Russian-Chechen conflict 0
(i would love to hear Im wrong with a believable source)

ME
Close friends or relatives that participated in Russian-Chechen conflict 1
(I have plenty sources and proof)



YOU
Know about the Russian-Chechen conflict since Ermolov's days 0
(we can take that to PM if Im wrong, with a few questions we will see what I mean)

ME
Know about the Russian-Chechen conflict since Ermolov's days 1
(i've been studying history of MY COUNTRY more than you have)



I understand your frustration, and issues.
I too have weak areas. All humans do.
But please, stay away from arguments you shouldn't be in. Because chances are, at the end you wont have enough sources left to continue)SO it will turn into acusing me of being FLAME WARRIOR, PROPAGANDA BELIEVER, STALIN SUPPORTER, AND DIRTY EVIL COMMIE

Before you start accusing me of coming into "YOUR THREAD" first of all.

This is not your thread, and was not created by you. Im here as much of a guest, as you are.

But than you tell me that



By the way you started Flaming, you came in this thread and started backing Anti-Chechen quote's.

LOL
So anything that has no connection with Russia, but presents a different look on the facts that you don't like to hear is - ANTI-CHECHEN ?


Get out of this thread because I never go in on your Russian one's so stay out of this one. Choice is your's.


So I have to make a choice here? Besides the obvious BS (you never come to my threads) I believe you should check your HISTORY POSTS BETTER. Im not here to start a flame, that has been started

I believe sir, it was you who was the first man creating one, and touching the subject that you know well creates flames if not ignored.

I believe here is what you said 2 pages back


Mujahideen in Chechnya are the true mujahideen. They fight for their land's, and what does your nation fight for?

Kind of like if I ask what is USA fighting for in Iraq ?
Thats a clear FLAME BAIT if you ask me ;)

My step father is retired USAF master Sgt. He went to the mentioned area and did his service for his country. I respect him and love him for who he is.
SO I DONT THINK I WILL BE ASKING HIM, WHAT WAS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THERE IN IRAQ?


Chechnya's oil.
here we go.....The popular flame (YOU ARE THERE FOR OIL)

Do you have any idea on how much oil Russia has just in Siberian area? Chechnya would equal 0.5% to that territory of OIL HEAVEN. Again, we go back to that I KNOW MORE ABOUT WHERE IM FROM THAN YOU.


Chechen mujahideen had no connection to the killing's of the innocance in Sept. 11.
Who the hell mentioned the Chechens and 9/11 in this thread?


The US support's Chechen's because Russia continue's to arm Iran so the US is just doing pay back if you ask me. You keep thinking Chechen fighter's are terrorist's but take look at this site.
http://www.russian-genocide-over-che...e.blogspot.com
Warning: Graphic images.


Oh so your site is the right one???

haha

I love it how it works in your world. Your word against mine at the end, right? ;)

But again - check who started what you call "Flame" in this thread first.


Do you see how nice Russia threat's Chechen civilian's? Russia is the attacker and Chechen fighter's are the defender's.

Hitler, Putin = Same S***

I dont even want to respon do this one. Not because of the latest incidents like the Beslan and Nord-Ost. But purely because I would rather leave this one up to the mod to decide.

[U-S-S-R]

Roman you don't know howmuch selfconstraint it took me to ignore this scumbag... Please don't go into his foolish arguments. It's obvious he can't be convinced.

[BMF_EOD]

You know I am an American. I was raised to think all people were equal, that no man was better than another. That women were to be treated well, to work hard an treat your fellow man with respect. To respect all people from all religions regardless of how different it was. I was taught tolerance(something completely unknown to some cultures) and understanding. For over 30 years I have found pride in my complete racial and ethnically -non-bias. But something is happening.

I hate that deep inside me I find that being changed. A forced change that I do not want but is happening every time I watch the news. Episodes like Khobar towers, USS Cole, 9/11, Beslan, Madrid attacks, London bombings (an so many more) .. have had a profound effect on me and how I view certain cultures. I remind myself daily that these are just a small representative of the larger group - but when I see more public outrage at a cartoon than say Beslan or 9/11- then the change grows deeper.

A Mujaheddin you ask? Doesn't really matter what it USED to mean does it? Because today he's the person that wants to influence his religion on me and my family. Who wants to kill innocent civilians while screaming Allah akhbar. Who wants to take away the freedoms that so many Americans have died for. Who wants a grand name to somehow bestow honor to the targeted killing of women and children.

So you want to know what a "Muj" is? He is my enemy.

[CyberSpec]

Roman you don't know howmuch selfconstraint it took me to ignore this scumbag

You're not the only one...

And unless you're into reading cheap BS slogans, don't bother looking for a debate either.

[Chops]

You are still not BANNED ???

He is now. And the majority of you are sailing so close to the wind it's not funny. Take this as first and last warning. Why I'm being so generous I have no idea? I had a **** day and would much prefer to "go 'Pig" with the boomstick ablazin' on some of you assholes. And if you get caught in the crossfire...well, fk, **** happens...

[RomanS]

He is now. And the majority of you are sailing so close to the wind it's not funny. Take this as first and last warning. Why I'm being so generous I have no idea? I had a **** day and would much prefer to "go 'Pig" with the boomstick ablazin' on some of you assholes. And if you get caught in the crossfire...well, fk, **** happens...

thanks Chops,
is he banned for a week or for good?

[Skeletor]

I wholehartedly disagree. The term mujahedin is an ancient term, so you can replace Christian by a modern word like atheist or whatevery you want. The fact stays the same, they are against non-muslims and will do anything (babykilling, raping, murdering etc. Just look at what bosniaks did to Serbs in the 90's) to achieve their goal.


Really, I'm tired of balkan terror-wannabe's and western relativists giving excuses for chechen and afghan mujahedin and picturing mujahedin as some noble warrior. These mujahedin are nothing but societies degenerates, believing that their deformed vision of islam will give them a better afterlife. Try speaking to some educated afghans who actually lived in Afganistan during and after Russian intervention. Hear what they have to say, before making claims that Soviets were just 'spreading communism'.




Very refreshing. ;)

Sure. But you should be able to distinguish a terrorist from a Mujahideen. To say all Mujahideen are against non-Muslims is a bit narrow minded do you not think? and it's not as if Russian soldiers have never killed children, raped or murdered. Or the US for that matter either. I'm not against Russia but all you have to do is look at the Russians advancing on Berlin during your great Patriotic War...

[U-S-S-R]

Sure. But you should be able to distinguish a terrorist from a Mujahideen. To say all Mujahideen are against non-Muslims is a bit narrow minded do you not think? and it's not as if Russian soldiers have never killed children, raped or murdered. Or the US for that matter either. I'm not against Russia but all you have to do is look at the Russians advancing on Berlin during your great Patriotic War...

Your point being?