Russians arrested in Quatar

[RomanS]

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/qatar_chechnya_blast] (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/photos/recip/story/*Moscow protests arrest of Russian security agents for murder in Qatar [/b] - Former Chechen president Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev. Moscow has angrily protested over the arrest on murder charges of two Russian security service agents in Qatar, Russia's acting foreign minister Igor Ivanov said.(AFP/EPA/File/Vladimir Mashatin)



Those dirty fugin muslims better release our guys, i'm sure they don't want their ****hole qatar to be leveled.

[Marmot1]

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/qatar_chechnya_blast] (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/photos/recip/story/*Moscow protests arrest of Russian security agents for murder in Qatar [/b] - Former Chechen president Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev. Moscow has angrily protested over the arrest on murder charges of two Russian security service agents in Qatar, Russia's acting foreign minister Igor Ivanov said.(AFP/EPA/File/Vladimir Mashatin)



Those dirty fugin muslims better release our guys, i'm sure they don't want their ****hole qatar to be leveled.

???!!! I love your tolerance... :bash: but this time they caught dirty ****ty russian terrorists who killed ppl in a terrorist atack... since you cannot name it other way than an act of terror commited in third country... so for Qatar those russians are terrorists :-D I wonder what punishment is in Qatar for terrorism???... death? :lol:

[0#256]

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Is he wearing an Swedish camouflage M/90!?

[Dalleer]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg
Is he wearing an Swedish camouflage M/90!?

Yes, he is. And that's been a small topic of discussion _the last time_ this picture was posted.

But hey, apparently that guy recognizes taste....

[He219]

If you look carefully, one can make out the name tag of the original owner:

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/M90.jpg


:P

[TALOS]

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/qatar_chechnya_blast] (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/photos/recip/story/*Moscow protests arrest of Russian security agents for murder in Qatar [/b] - Former Chechen president Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev. Moscow has angrily protested over the arrest on murder charges of two Russian security service agents in Qatar, Russia's acting foreign minister Igor Ivanov said.(AFP/EPA/File/Vladimir Mashatin)



Those dirty fugin muslims better release our guys, i'm sure they don't want their ****hole qatar to be leveled.

???!!! I love your tolerance... :bash: but this time they caught dirty ****ty russian terrorists who killed ppl in a terrorist atack... since you cannot name it other way than an act of terror commited in third country... so for Qatar those russians are terrorists :-D I wonder what punishment is in Qatar for terrorism???... death? :lol:

Problem is that you have to prove they were guilty first, you take it for granted they are guilty without evidence, I say, wait for evidence.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

If you look carefully, one can make out the name tag of the original owner:

rofl

[usa320]

a ****tard indeed.


This guy is a ****tard as well:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

Hes a terrorist...

Quatar shouldnt arrest the service agents that offed him. Instead they should applaud the death of the bastard.

And lol at the edited pic. rofl

[Argyll]

a f*** indeed.


This guy is a f*** as well:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

Hes a terrorist...

Quatar shouldnt arrest the service agents that offed him. Instead they should applaud the death of the bastard.

And lol at the edited pic. rofl


Jesus you crack me up 320,you been on the "pipe " again?
Terrorist or not,some countries actually have laws against the killing of another person,it's called murder,and these Russians were caught,if an American killed a person in Britain,and was caught he's still face a Murder charge,irrespective of whom his victim was,you simply cannot go around the world handing out gangster style retribution without it working both ways,you fail to observe a countries Law,then the same can be applied to a person killing a Political leader in the USA,by stating that he does not recognise the US Laws and constitutions,where do you draw the line?
It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

[George W. Bush]

Those poor bastards who were caught!

[RomanS]

a f*** indeed.


This guy is a f*** as well:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

Hes a terrorist...

Quatar shouldnt arrest the service agents that offed him. Instead they should applaud the death of the bastard.

And lol at the edited pic. rofl


Jesus you crack me up 320,you been on the "pipe " again?
Terrorist or not,some countries actually have laws against the killing of another person,it's called murder,and these Russians were caught,if an American killed a person in Britain,and was caught he's still face a Murder charge,irrespective of whom his victim was,you simply cannot go around the world handing out gangster style retribution without it working both ways,you fail to observe a countries Law,then the same can be applied to a person killing a Political leader in the USA,by stating that he does not recognise the US Laws and constitutions,where do you draw the line?
It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

you are comparing Britain to Qatar or however you spell this muslim **** place.

AGAIN - they gonna release our guys tomorrow god damn it.

If they kill them or hurt them, we will hurt theirs

[Argyll]

You really have got a problem with Muslims Permskii.don't you?

I only compared Britain to Quatar as they both have Laws that say the premeditated killing of any person in that country is Murder,and they have Laws against it,we might not like it,but it is their Law,same as the Laws in Russia.
If 2 British MI6 agents went to Moscow to kill a Russian Mafia Chief and were caught,what do you think would happen to them?

[Marmot1]

a f*** indeed.


This guy is a f*** as well:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

Hes a terrorist...

Quatar shouldnt arrest the service agents that offed him. Instead they should applaud the death of the bastard.

And lol at the edited pic. rofl


Jesus you crack me up 320,you been on the "pipe " again?
Terrorist or not,some countries actually have laws against the killing of another person,it's called murder,and these Russians were caught,if an American killed a person in Britain,and was caught he's still face a Murder charge,irrespective of whom his victim was,you simply cannot go around the world handing out gangster style retribution without it working both ways,you fail to observe a countries Law,then the same can be applied to a person killing a Political leader in the USA,by stating that he does not recognise the US Laws and constitutions,where do you draw the line?
It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

you are comparing Britain to Qatar or however you spell this muslim **** place.

AGAIN - they gonna release our guys tomorrow god damn it.

If they kill them or hurt them, we will hurt theirs

one word permski or maybe two - you are ****ING RACIST and you use double morality one for russians an other for rest of the word.... not all muslims are terrorists and you make generalization and offend many ppl so please shut up. They have law in Qatar and probably your russian ppl commited crime so they are susspected criminalists or terrorist depending on qualification of their action.

[Tygryssek]

I have the question: Are Quatar uses the guilotine to exeute terrorist, Chechen or Russians - everyone who uses the violence and killing other people?

I have heard that Saudi Arabia maybe Jordania uses the guilotines to execute drug dealers, ****** offenders and murderers.

Iranians hang members of pedophile group in Teheran.

[RomanS]

You really have got a problem with Muslims Permskii.don't you?

I only compared Britain to Quatar as they both have Laws that say the premeditated killing of any person in that country is Murder,and they have Laws against it,we might not like it,but it is their Law,same as the Laws in Russia.
If 2 British MI6 agents went to Moscow to kill a Russian Mafia Chief and were caught,what do you think would happen to them?

no problem with muslims at all, what are you talking about?

They are great people.

[RomanS]

You really have got a problem with Muslims Permskii.don't you?

I only compared Britain to Quatar as they both have Laws that say the premeditated killing of any person in that country is Murder,and they have Laws against it,we might not like it,but it is their Law,same as the Laws in Russia.
If 2 British MI6 agents went to Moscow to kill a Russian Mafia Chief and were caught,what do you think would happen to them?

We have agencies for that. FSB, MVD takes care of the MAFIA

what does qtar has against terrorists?

[RomanS]

a f*** indeed.


This guy is a f*** as well:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

Hes a terrorist...

Quatar shouldnt arrest the service agents that offed him. Instead they should applaud the death of the bastard.

And lol at the edited pic. rofl


Jesus you crack me up 320,you been on the "pipe " again?
Terrorist or not,some countries actually have laws against the killing of another person,it's called murder,and these Russians were caught,if an American killed a person in Britain,and was caught he's still face a Murder charge,irrespective of whom his victim was,you simply cannot go around the world handing out gangster style retribution without it working both ways,you fail to observe a countries Law,then the same can be applied to a person killing a Political leader in the USA,by stating that he does not recognise the US Laws and constitutions,where do you draw the line?
It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

you are comparing Britain to Qatar or however you spell this muslim **** place.

AGAIN - they gonna release our guys tomorrow god damn it.

If they kill them or hurt them, we will hurt theirs

one word permski or maybe two - you are f*** RACIST and you use double morality one for russians an other for rest of the word.... not all muslims are terrorists and you make generalization and offend many ppl so please shut up. They have law in Qatar and probably your russian ppl commited crime so they are susspected criminalists or terrorist depending on qualification of their action.

Black, White, Asian, Hispanic -thats a RACE. I respect them all, and have friends of each.

Muslim, Islam, Qaran - made up religion, where people believe in an imagenary guy. This particular religion is known to cause problems in the world (not in Poland though). There are over dozen hot spots where people are killed because they dont believe in Islam and alah.
This particular religion openly D I S C R I M I N A T E S females, music, art, entertainment. Their laws give you a right to kill for that imagenary guy mentioned above. If you step on their backyard to help the poor people, they hijack planes and crash them into world trade centers, take hostages in theaters, execute pregnant women in the maternity hospitals, blow up embassies, and on top of that brutaly execute the non-believers.

True, not all the muslims are that bad. Show me the good portion that helps to stop the above.

[Argyll]

Look back at what you said in your posts about Muslims,

things like Dirty Fugin Muslims,and that sh*it Muslim Country,plus your posts from elsewhere contain almost the same rhetorics


as for the Laws and your reply saying you have FSB,MVD to take care of your Mafia,have the Quatari's also not got agencies to deal with "Terrorists" and the likes?Why did you not let them do the job?

hence the parable about MI6,just because you have an agency that can deal with it does not mean to say that an outside agaency has no interests either

[RomanS]

Look back at what you said in your posts about Muslims,

things like Dirty Fugin Muslims,and that sh*it Muslim Country,plus your posts from elsewhere contain almost the same rhetorics


as for the Laws and your reply saying you have FSB,MVD to take care of your Mafia,have the Quatari's also not got agencies to deal with "Terrorists" and the likes?Why did you not let them do the job?

hence the parable about MI6,just because you have an agency that can deal with it does not mean to say that an outside agaency has no interests either

What the hell are you talking about?

Qatar has agencies against terrorists? Should we help them with some new glases, or **** let us ****in clean it for them.
Yandarbiev lived in Qatar since 1997. Thats 7 years dude!

What the **** have they been doing on bringing him to justice? Or is he a peacful civilian that didn't help to organize Buddenovsk, Kizlyar, Moscow bombings, Nord Ost.

[REMOV]

what does qtar has against terrorists?You know, Permskii, a statement: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"? Naturally there are many terrorists who are manifestly not freedom fighters (obvious example: Osama ibn Laden) but the situations in Chechnya is a slightly different.

When they attacked the civilian structures (as hospitals like Budionnovs, theatres like Moscow, Dubrovka, villages and so on) they are obviously terrorists, no doubt. But, in fact, only a small number of Chechen fighters act in that way. When the attacked only a military structures (barracks, patrols and so on) is hard to call them terrorists. Yes, I know, the border is very blurred, but try to understand that for some of Chechens it is just a war for independence, nothing more and nothing less.

[RomanS]

what does qtar has against terrorists?You know, Permskii, a statement: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"? Naturally there are many terrorists who are manifestly not freedom fighters (obvious example: Osama ibn Laden) but the situations in Chechnya is a slightly different.

When they attacked the civilian structures (as hospitals like Budionnovs, theatres like Moscow, Dubrovka, villages and so on) they are obviously terrorists, no doubt. But, in fact, only a small number of Chechen fighters act in that way. When the attacked only a military structures (barracks, patrols and so on) is hard to call them terrorists. Yes, I know, the border is very blurred, but try to understand that for some of Chechens it is just a war for independence, nothing more and nothing less.

Agreed, and after our spetsnaz ****s them up so bad, that they run and cry to ben laden, they turn into terrorism.
They sure are brave against trucks with supplies, and those baracks. But when we answer back with our pitbulls, Alah akbar - Nord Ost, Buddenovsk, Kizlyar, subway.....

[Argyll]

Listen up buddy,there have been plenty of cases where International terrorists have fled to other countries,and nothing can get done for the simple reason is that they have no jurasdiction over them,they have not committed any crimes in that country,there have been numerous cases where IRA terrorists fled to the USA,and also to the republic of Eire after escaping from jail,there were several attempts to extradite them,but nothing happened as from the hosts point of view ,they had not commited any crimes,and were not considers a threat to them ,so they were allowed to stay.

So it leaves with 2 options you wait,and do nothing until he makes a move,or you act by taking the risk of the operaton going wrong,if they had gotten away nothing more would have been said.
They didn't get away,they were captured after commiting an act of Murder according to that Sovereign Countrys Law,there is no point in getting so wound up about this,these 2 men knew the risks,and so did the person who sanctioned the mission.......in the event of capture it's called "Plausable deniability"

[RomanS]

Listen up buddy,there have been plenty of cases where International terrorists have fled to other countries,and nothing can get done for the simple reason is that they have no jurasdiction over them,they have not committed any crimes in that country,there have been numerous cases where IRA terrorists fled to the USA,and also to the republic of Eire after escaping from jail,there were several attempts to extradite them,but nothing happened as from the hosts point of view ,they had not commited any crimes,and were not considers a threat to them ,so they were allowed to stay.

So it leaves with 2 options you wait,and do nothing until he makes a move,or you act by taking the risk of the operaton going wrong,if they had gotten away nothing more would have been said.
They didn't get away,they were captured after commiting an act of Murder according to that Sovereign Countrys Law,there is no point in getting so wound up about this,these 2 men knew the risks,and so did the person who sanctioned the mission.......in the event of capture it's called "Plausable deniability"

how old are you?

[Argyll]

A hell of a lot older than you!!

[REMOV]

This particular religion is known to cause problems in the world (not in Poland though).You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet) when Poland fought with Teutonic Knights. They got nobility and long centuries served as a part of Polish forces. They still got their own traditions (the oldest mosques in Poland were build in 15th Century). You know, my ex-girlfriend has some Tartar blood in her vains, very nice mix I must said ;)

[RomanS]

A hell of a lot older than you!!
weird

[RomanS]

This particular religion is known to cause problems in the world (not in Poland though).You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet) when Poland fought with Teutonic Knights. They got nobility and long centuries served as a part of Polish forces. They still got their own traditions (the oldest mosques in Poland were build in 15th Century). You know, my ex-girlfriend has some Tartar blood in her vains, very nice mix I must said ;)

Yeah, and they use to feed Christians to the lions.

HEY

check your calendar please, and tell me what Year , and a century is today.

Thanks man, I will appreciate it if we keep living in TODAY

[Argyll]

Why do you ask?
my DOB is 23 Nov 62,
probably old enough to be your father!!

[RomanS]

Why do you ask?
my DOB is 23 Nov 62,
probably old enough to be your father!!

Argyll, hit the books (history of Chechen war)
after that we will talk.

[Marmot1]

Well maybe you are poor at geography but camp Doha is in Qatar and it is US HQ in region used to fight terrorists in region, it was used during Afghanistan intervention and now Iraq, if you don't know Qatar is one of the closest US allies in the region and most liberal muslim country in gulf.

Before making any statements about Islam please read Qaran... It seems that you have no idea about this religion... yes there are hot spots in the world coused by muslims but also there are hot spots created by christians: Northern ireland for example, Uganda (Army of god) India (in Assam provine there is at least one rebel/terrorist christian group) and in many other places. Islam is very tolerant religion as long as it's not interperted by retard to it own purpose but the same can be dony with almost every religion...

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 - do you know what is it??? it is caled arabic numerals cuz they were invented by arabs also English word algorithm is derived from the name of the inventor of algebra - an Arabic word like: alchemy, alcohol, azimuth,astronomy,market, nadir, zenith and oasis.

[REMOV]

check your calendar please, and tell me what Year , and a century is today.Doesn't matter - the natons remembers their history. You started the war with Chechens not in late 90s of 20th Century but in early 1800s. Poland was part of Russian Empire over 120 years before we fought our freedom. The Kurds lost their state in 7th Century but they still try to obtain the independence. Israelis regain they country over hundreds years. And so on...

Thanks man, I will appreciate it if we keep living in TODAYNice try, but I'm afraid you're completly wrong. The nations are immersed in their history and have a very looooooooong memory. If you cannot understand that simple fact you never grasp the nature of ANY war.

[Argyll]

I have been reading 16Obr SpN's thread

I'm not interested in a pissing contest,I've seen how you react on the other threads.

I replied to this Chechen guy as the Op went wrong and the guys got caught,like everything else in the military ,when it goes **** up,deal with it!!

Like I said if they had gotten away with it,fair play to them,but they didn't and know they will face the laws of Quatar.

There's no point in you spouting off ****e like calling them all muslim scum,and demanding that they let them go,cause guess what buddy,they can't hear you,you're on the internet,and nothing you say here makes the slightest bit of difference or has any impact on what happens across the globe tommorow.

Like I also said,these guys knew the risk,and now have to deal with it,it is not the 1st time it has ever happened is it.Infact IIRC 16OBr SPn posted a story about an Op that took place in Afghanistan,where the Spetznaz team killed a whole load of Mujihadeen,and amongst them were 2 Americans probably CIA,and nothing was made much of that...........plausable denialbility!!

[kinghk]

You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet)

Huh? Leiv Eriksson discovered America about the year 1000.

[navylt]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040226/capt.sge.nsj99.260204120104.photo00.default-297x384.jpg

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/qatar_chechnya_blast] (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/photos/recip/story/*Moscow protests arrest of Russian security agents for murder in Qatar [/b] - Former Chechen president Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev. Moscow has angrily protested over the arrest on murder charges of two Russian security service agents in Qatar, Russia's acting foreign minister Igor Ivanov said.(AFP/EPA/File/Vladimir Mashatin)



Those dirty fugin muslims better release our guys, i'm sure they don't want their ****hole qatar to be leveled.

I'm in Qatar and agree that it is a **** hole.

[He219]

You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet)

Huh? Leiv Eriksson discovered America about the year 1000.

:lol:

And Leif's sister with a small group of settlers were killed by Indians.
;)

[Marmot1]

You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet)

Huh? Leiv Eriksson discovered America about the year 1000.

Yeah and indians or as you call them "native americans" discovered it 30 000 years ago or even earlier (BTW they come probably from siberia by Bering straight (now I know why they were called redskin ;) )

[kinghk]

You know, the funny thing is the all Polish muslems are in fact Tartars' descendant, allies which help Poland in... 1410 (yeah, America haven't been discovered yet)

Huh? Leiv Eriksson discovered America about the year 1000.

:lol:

And Leif's sister with a small group of settlers were killed by Indians.
;)

Unfortanely. Would have been nice if North-America was a Norwegian colony.

[usa320]

my final comment on this thread is that i think Quatar needs to realize the lesser of two evils.

And secondly, im sure the Russian agents understood the risks involved when they executed thier mission.

See if the US made the hit they woulda just fired a hellfire at the guy.

[One?]

Muslim, Islam, Qaran - made up religion, where people believe in an imagenary guy. This particular religion is known to cause problems in the world (not in Poland though). There are over dozen hot spots where people are killed because they dont believe in Islam and alah.
This particular religion openly D I S C R I M I N A T E S females, music, art, entertainment. Their laws give you a right to kill for that imagenary guy mentioned above. If you step on their backyard to help the poor people, they hijack planes and crash them into world trade centers, take hostages in theaters, execute pregnant women in the maternity hospitals, blow up embassies, and on top of that brutaly execute the non-believers.

True, not all the muslims are that bad. Show me the good portion that helps to stop the above.


1) buddy we don't believe in an imaginary "guy". We believe in God.
2) Music, entertainment. medicine etc.. CAME FROM THE MUSLIM EMPIRE and modern day cultures took it from us. Go read history.
3) Woman are very well respected according to the Quran. They are allowed to more then what christians allow their woman to do. If people deviate from that its because they did it, not because islam says so.

f(*&% sickens me to see ignorant people like that. Go learn history and read before you come on here and make up your own little facts.

[EvanL]

Muslim, Islam, Qaran - made up religion, where people believe in an imagenary guy. This particular religion is known to cause problems in the world (not in Poland though). There are over dozen hot spots where people are killed because they dont believe in Islam and alah.
This particular religion openly D I S C R I M I N A T E S females, music, art, entertainment. Their laws give you a right to kill for that imagenary guy mentioned above. If you step on their backyard to help the poor people, they hijack planes and crash them into world trade centers, take hostages in theaters, execute pregnant women in the maternity hospitals, blow up embassies, and on top of that brutaly execute the non-believers.

True, not all the muslims are that bad. Show me the good portion that helps to stop the above.


1) buddy we don't believe in an imaginary "guy". We believe in God.
2) Music, entertainment. medicine etc.. CAME FROM THE MUSLIM EMPIRE and modern day cultures took it from us. Go read history.
3) Woman are very well respected according to the Quran. They are allowed to more then what christians allow their woman to do. If people deviate from that its because they did it, not because islam says so.

f(*&% sickens me to see ignorant people like that. Go learn history and read before you come on here and make up your own little facts.
They also invented the internet. Was Al Gore muslim? haha

[One?]

EvanLoyd realy funny rofl :|

...i bet they used their math for the internet.

[EvanL]

EvanLoyd realy funny rofl :|

...i bet they used their math for the internet.
If you can read my name you should be able to spell it.

[16 OBr SpN]

as for the Laws and your reply saying you have FSB,MVD to take care of your Mafia,have the Quatari's also not got agencies to deal with "Terrorists" and the likes?Why did you not let them do the job?


Argyll,

I totally understand your point. Of course, carrying out operations of these types is not legitimate under International Laws.

But...

1) Yandarbiev was enjoying Qatar's full governmental support. He was given a nice apartment in downtown Doha. His bodyguards were from Qatar's interior ministry.
2) There was a cell phone call during Moscow theater crisis made by terrorists to Qatar, and they had a 12 minute conversation with Yandarbiev.
3) Russian authorities have hundreds of pages of proof against him. Those documents were forwarded not only to Qatar's government, but also Interpol. Yandarbiev was on the official list of terrorists in databases of Interpol.
4) There was a "charity" fund called "Qatar", which was actively participating in the financing of chechen terrorists. The main source of funds were donations from mosques in which he openly preached the ideas of "Chechen Islamic State"; as well as the government agency which provides financial aid to different "medreses" (islamic schools) around the world.
5) During the burial of Yandarbiev, almost all of Qatari ministers, and other high ranking government officials were present.
6) Russian authorities have been demanding his arrest for over 5 years now! Believe me, the operation wasn't planned for 5 years. We have a rich history of assassinations ;)
My guess is, they decided to take him out after the subway terror attack.

Considering these facts, do you really think Qataris were going to stop his activities?? Not only they didn't stop his terrorist activities, they supported and harbored him!

Bottom line: **** him! Let him burn in hell, although I think that pig didn't suffer enough.

But I still doubt those three agents were the ones behind it. These kinds of operations are done by the different organization. ;)

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[16 OBr SpN]

One,

You have to understand on thing. Yes, Islam has contributed MANY things to today's civilization.

BUT...

Due to many social, economic, and historic circumstances, the religion of Islam has been compromised. Who do you think did it? It sure wasn't the Israelis, Americans, Russians, etc. It was governments and religious clerks! I swear, even if there wasn't America, Russia, Israel... Arabs would still fight each other.

Islam has a tendency to be very polar. On the one hand, it is definitely a peaceful religion with much focus given to respect and hospitality.
But on the other hand this religion tends to be very distrusful of any influences even if they are positive, and is very resistant to any changes, which reflects in birth of violent fundamental movements.

Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I read almost all of the books: Quran, Hadis, Haft-i-Yak. Besides, I received a good education ;)

Here is one of my thoughts...
When Islam mixes up with the Western mentality, it's a very positive thing.
My wife is originally from Uzbekistan. Two of her neighbors were local Uzbeks, and there were also two Jewish families. They lived in peace, and were guests at each others' houses. Jews were congratulating Muslims on Eid. Muslims were congratulating the Jews with Hanukkah and Yom-Kippur. Same with Christians.
Why do you think it was happening in a country where the vast majority of people were Muslim? Because people lived together, and exchanged cultures.
This cannot be applied to Arab nations, because any attempts of cultural influence are being cut off by the clerks and government, who see it as a threat to their power.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[juhae]

A very good post, to which I quite whole-heartedly agree!


This cannot be applied to Arab nations, because any attempts of cultural influence are being cut off by the clerks and government, who see it as a threat to their power.

It is indeed great to see how direct theocracies have disappeared, and religion has moved into a way more subtle position, where is can be used as a leverage for popularity and rallying people.

And this isn't just for islam, I bet about every even remotely democratic coutry has their own share of religion abused in the name of politics. (Which, especially in the case of semitic religions, is quite hilarious since you basically couldn't do a much more worse offense... Oh well. :roll: )

[TALOS]

One,

You have to understand on thing. Yes, Islam has contributed MANY things to today's civilization.

BUT...

Due to many social, economic, and historic circumstances, the religion of Islam has been compromised. Who do you think did it? It sure wasn't the Israelis, Americans, Russians, etc. It was governments and religious clerks! I swear, even if there wasn't America, Russia, Israel... Arabs would still fight each other.

Islam has a tendency to be very polar. On the one hand, it is definitely a peaceful religion with much focus given to respect and hospitality.
But on the other hand this religion tends to be very distrusful of any influences even if they are positive, and is very resistant to any changes, which reflects in birth of violent fundamental movements.

Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I read almost all of the books: Quran, Hadis, Haft-i-Yak. Besides, I received a good education ;)

Here is one of my thoughts...
When Islam mixes up with the Western mentality, it's a very positive thing.
My wife is originally from Uzbekistan. Two of her neighbors were local Uzbeks, and there were also two Jewish families. They lived in peace, and were guests at each others' houses. Jews were congratulating Muslims on Eid. Muslims were congratulating the Jews with Hanukkah and Yom-Kippur. Same with Christians.
Why do you think it was happening in a country where the vast majority of people were Muslim? Because people lived together, and exchanged cultures.
This cannot be applied to Arab nations, because any attempts of cultural influence are being cut off by the clerks and government, who see it as a threat to their power.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN
Thats a good point 16, its not God or a belief in God that causes the problems. Its the warping of these beliefs by greedy selfish and manipulative people that causes the problems. This applies to christianity, islam, judaism and all the rest. When a person or group of people want to motivate others to take arms for them they call it a holy war, or jihad, or whatever is necessary to get people behind it. If people actually applied their beliefs there would be none of this, or at least they would have to find another excuse.

[Argyll]

as for the Laws and your reply saying you have FSB,MVD to take care of your Mafia,have the Quatari's also not got agencies to deal with "Terrorists" and the likes?Why did you not let them do the job?


Argyll,

I totally understand your point. Of course, carrying out operations of these types is not legitimate under International Laws.

But...

1) Yandarbiev was enjoying Qatar's full governmental support. He was given a nice apartment in downtown Doha. His bodyguards were from Qatar's interior ministry.
2) There was a cell phone call during Moscow theater crisis made by terrorists to Qatar, and they had a 12 minute conversation with Yandarbiev.
3) Russian authorities have hundreds of pages of proof against him. Those documents were forwarded not only to Qatar's government, but also Interpol. Yandarbiev was on the official list of terrorists in databases of Interpol.
4) There was a "charity" fund called "Qatar", which was actively participating in the financing of chechen terrorists. The main source of funds were donations from mosques in which he openly preached the ideas of "Chechen Islamic State"; as well as the government agency which provides financial aid to different "medreses" (islamic schools) around the world.
5) During the burial of Yandarbiev, almost all of Qatari ministers, and other high ranking government officials were present.
6) Russian authorities have been demanding his arrest for over 5 years now! Believe me, the operation wasn't planned for 5 years. We have a rich history of assassinations ;)
My guess is, they decided to take him out after the subway terror attack.

Considering these facts, do you really think Qataris were going to stop his activities?? Not only they didn't stop his terrorist activities, they supported and harbored him!

Bottom line: f*** him! Let him burn in hell, although I think that pig didn't suffer enough.

But I still doubt those three agents were the ones behind it. These kinds of operations are done by the different organization. ;)

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

Thank you,a very rational and well informed post.
Bottom line is I agree with you ,the same fate awaits many of these Terrorist leaders and Leiutenants.

The big problem with Countries who accept these guys in,is that some are also backed by the West,and if I'm not mistaken I believe that Western "Advisors"train their Special Forces,and CT units,perhaps it is the case of "Walk softly,but carry a big stick"I cannot remember the exact phrase.I honestly don't know the answer of getting round these Political problems,but as you can clearly see,that this Op went wrong,and under the eyes and the laws of Quatar,these guys commited a crime,and are being held accountable...........not the ideal situation to find yourself in.

[Kingpin]

Strictly doubt that Qatar authorities catch right men. Well may be they was involved and provided some support but

1. They wasn't undercover what is essential for such deals in such country. They arrived officially and stayed on public.

2. Qatar police are sore loosers. They never met with real criminal. They even didn't know what to do on crime scene. So how they can catch SpecOp professionals within several hours?

So i suppose they just catched first men they knew have reasons to dislike Yandarbiev. With the same success they can throw all Russian embassy staff into prison.

[Marmot1]

Strictly doubt that Qatar authorities catch right men. Well may be they was involved and provided some support but

1. They wasn't undercover what is essential for such deals in such country. They arrived officially and stayed on public.

2. Qatar police are sore loosers. They never met with real criminal. They even didn't know what to do on crime scene. So how they can catch SpecOp professionals within several hours?

So i suppose they just catched first men they knew have reasons to dislike Yandarbiev. With the same success they can throw all Russian embassy staff into prison.

OK what I know so far:

1. Those 2 russians leaved Qatar few hours after assasination on Yandarbiyev and moved to UEA

2. They were stoped in UEA and given back to Qatar.

3. Third one was arrested in Doha.

4.They are accused of criminal murder and penality for that is death acording to Qatar's law.

[Catch22]

First of all - regards to 16 Obr for excellent, well-balanced post. I might say "officer and gentelman" style. :) I wish Permskii would have same temper and attitude sometimes...

Well, I don't think these Russian officers are in real danger due to political reasons - I suppose they may face extradicton but nothing more serious. I also doubt if they were the ones personally responsible for Yandarbijev's assasination - if so it would be a huge screw up then (those guys surely may be the ones that supported the action, provided intel or so).

Anyway - I guess Mossad, CIA or MI6 also performs such actions - maybe it was just a bad luck for Russians this time... some Murphy law or something.

I just don't think that Quatar would take risk of possible political consequences.

[Kingpin]

Once again i should repeat - we all here sure they catched wrong men.

[Argyll]

Seems a bit "dubious" right enough,time will tell I guess.

[Sergei]

First of all - regards to 16 Obr for excellent, well-balanced post. I might say "officer and gentelman" style. :) I wish Permskii would have same temper and attitude sometimes...

Well, I don't think these Russian officers are in real danger due to political reasons - I suppose they may face extradicton but nothing more serious. I also doubt if they were the ones personally responsible for Yandarbijev's assasination - if so it would be a huge screw up then (those guys surely may be the ones that supported the action, provided intel or so).

Anyway - I guess Mossad, CIA or MI6 also performs such actions - maybe it was just a bad luck for Russians this time... some Murphy law or something.


I just don't think that Quatar would take risk of possible political consequences.

Completely agree with your post. Qatar wouldn't do anything to those men because:
1. I believe they have no evidence against those men. Things like leaving the country after the explosion is not jeopardizing any alibi.
2. Yandarbiev, the terrorist guy, was staying in the country for so long and enjoyed hospitality. I doubt any Qatar police ever looked into his shady dealings meaning high unprofessionalism of police in general in Qatar.
3. Things like that can only happen to currently weak Russia. I can't imagine any CIA or MI6 operatives captured for doing the "wet job" in a country like Qatar. Qatar would be joining the Indian Ocean within 5 minutes afterwards.

This is an interesting news to follow.

[Shuravie]

Crap...God know, i tried to keep my mouth shut...

WTF do u all know about chechnia??? nothing. Just NOTHING. I was born and grow up in Mozdok (Permski should know where it is). I was in Grozny many times. I lived with chechens as neibourhoods for many years. I do understand their language (a bit). And i know something. And i can tell you that.
Freedom for chechens - is possibility to kill ppl, to steal everything and not goin to jail, kidnepping ppl and making them slaves. And many other sh*t. And that is what they are fighting for.
I dont mean all chechens, i mean f@#$ing "freedom fighters"
I repeat: You dont know S**T!

Sorry for my english.
According to subject: I dont care who killed Zelimkhan. I just happy - that koyot is dead.

[koster]

Actually, a few of the people that are posting here, know quiete alot about chechnya, but I agree on some of the things that you have said.

[sergey31]

This is the same old argument....
The botom line is, if you are a F***** terroris and you were involved in Chechnya agains Russian forces then you will pay for it.
Russians don't let things go and they will find you even if you hide on the North pole or Antartica.
They will be all hunted down like sick rabits,
This goes as well to Coward "Aukai Collins" , they are after you and they will get you sooner or later.

[Shuravie]

Actually, a few of the people that are posting here, know quiete alot about chechnya, but I agree on some of the things that you have said.
Sorry, i didnt meant....you know. My words was to those who think that "brave chechen rebels" are some kinde of hero's.

[Groove]

1st i fully agree to 16 OBRs thoughts on Muslims.

2nd - there is NO functioning law enforcment in russia. The ppl living in Russia knows it.

There was a report on TV about the russian "justice" system:

A old woman stole 3 glasses of marmelade. She got 4 Years Prison. (yes FOUR).

If you have enough cash (dollars) there is no justice for you ( another thing if Putin thinks you could try to win the elections).

The Mafia called "Werevolfes" is the best example. I think the russians which are actually living in Russia knows about it.

And i always thought russia is democratic in some ways. But you still need some kind of paper that you allowed to stay in Moscow. I always thought you stoped this after CCCP went down.

Greetings

Groove

[Shuravie]

1st i fully agree to 16 OBRs thoughts on Muslims.

2nd - there is NO functioning law enforcment in russia. The ppl living in Russia knows it.


Groove

I live in Moscow, and i DO know that, man. Lots of troubles with that, you right. And yes - if you have cash enought you can buy a "ticket" from jail (not always though).
"Sad but true' (or how that Hatfield singing).

"But you still need some kind of paper that you allowed to stay in Moscow."

This thing is my big problem :) As you can guess, you can get that papers very easy for about 50-100$ :) But i not doin it essentially ... Always the same disputes with police. The solving of problem - 5 bucks or few hrs in PD. Just pissing me off. Especially taking into account - my passport, wich is have stamp from region near chechnia.

[execrable]

Let me get this straight; you can piss on Islam and the Arab world as much as you want, but criticize Russia and it drama-queen "I'm leaving and never coming back"?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a fight. I have better things to do than argue on the internet with people I've never met (is that rhyme?).
Anyway, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of insulting other people when you have stated that you're tired of getting insulted.
And if there's someone here who can't take even the slightest critic, and now feel the need to bash me, my country or some **** like that. Don't! Spare you're energy, punch a wall, whatever. Don't get into childish flame wars.
BTW, this might be seen as a jab against PermskiiOMON, well it ain't. I've got nothing against said person.

[AK-Lover]

All captured chechen "freedom fighter" dogs should be interviewed and then mercilessly executed. They deserve no better for the trouble they've caused to russia! :bash:

[execrable]

All captured chechen "freedom fighter" dogs should be interviewed and then mercilessly executed. They deserve no better for the trouble they've caused to russia! :bash:
Don't want to bitch but I think the Chechens could say the same thing about the Russians.
The argument is usually the same the only difference is who you name as the bad guy. Whether it is Russia or Chechnya, Israel or Palestine.
"[insert name] attacked us, so we must attack them back! [insert name] started it!"

[AK-Lover]

Chechen
Isreal and Palestinen.
:)

[execrable]

Chechen
Isreal and Palestinen.
:)
I prefer to stay neutral, mainly because I get pissed off by people who instead of respecting your opinions start to call you and your entire country gay.

:D :) :| :(

[EYE SPY]

Obviously, Permskii is a ****tard. Why do you let him continue to post. Are the members of this board that impressed with his little boy scout photos that they are afraid to do their job. IE, moderate. Permskii is a douchebag Russian with delusions of Grandeur. I seriously hope every Arab goes to Chechnya and kills everyone of his countrymen. And a few should find him Arizona or New Mexico and do what arabs do best, terrorism.

Hey Permskii. Go **** Yourself

[RomanS]

Let me get this straight; you can piss on Islam and the Arab world as much as you want, but criticize Russia and it drama-queen "I'm leaving and never coming back"?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a fight. I have better things to do than argue on the internet with people I've never met (is that rhyme?).
Anyway, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of insulting other people when you have stated that you're tired of getting insulted.
And if there's someone here who can't take even the slightest critic, and now feel the need to bash me, my country or some **** like that. Don't! Spare you're energy, punch a wall, whatever. Don't get into childish flame wars.
BTW, this might be seen as a jab against PermskiiOMON, well it ain't. I've got nothing against said person.

read your signature again, and go back there! Its full of terrorist lover monkeys anyways.

[RomanS]

Obviously, Permskii is a f***. Why do you let him continue to post. Are the members of this board that impressed with his little boy scout photos that they are afraid to do their job. IE, moderate. Permskii is a douchebag Russian with delusions of Grandeur. I seriously hope every Arab goes to Chechnya and kills everyone of his countrymen. And a few should find him Arizona or New Mexico and do what arabs do best, terrorism.

Hey Permskii. Go f*** Yourself

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oh man

Jihaaaad

Eye spy, no matter how mad you get, your fellow arabs are going to join the smithsonian soon. Speaking of Chechnya and your fagot ass boyfriends, how are they doin there against my brothers?

Let me check,















Oh still hiding in a bush, suckin each other cocks. **** you, and your arabs.

[EYE SPY]

arabs may **** animals like goats or camels. But if you want to talk about homo******s, just check out the Russian Army.

Poor, stupid little farmboys freezing their assess off and watching their Comrades get their heads cut off.

Russian soldiers are some of the gayest soldiers in the world. going down on each other and ****ing each other in the ass.

Russians as a people are Whores. The men, women, children. All prostitutes.

Your whore Natasha women and your butt buddy sergei fudgepackers are the scum of the earth.

Russian pig. Your a little bitch, Permskii douchebag. You have been very skillfull in pretending to be Supersoldier to these numbnut 12 year olds on this site. OMON is nothing but a bunch of conscript goons who were unable to make it into the much more selective units.

permskii, why did you come back. I thought you werent coming back, you drama queen. You got all insulted because many people here dont give a **** about your bull**** russian boasting.

you know what **** russia. I hope russia gets everything it deserves. Every terrorist nation, every terrorist group should continue to bomb your subways, your theaters, your churches, your tenement buildings.

every russian soldier should have their ears cut off and shoved down thier throat.

permskii, if you hate muslims so bad, why dont you go and do something about it. doesnt your freind's soul haunt you. i mean he died in moscow and all you do is jerk off to all the compliments you get from a bunch of geeky, spice channel addicted 12 year olds in some ****hole suburb in america, scandanavia or some other effeminate area. Why dont you avenge your freind. i know why, cuz your all talk and nothing else. Your nothing,and you desperatly want to be something. but your nothing. your still nothing, youll always be nothing.

**** Russia

[Sixgun Symphony]

It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

You mean that these Russian agents broke Quatar law. The very concept of "International Law" is itself a violation to the national soveriegnty of all nations involved here.

This incident here is between the governments of Quatar and Russia.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Eye Spy,

Why are you such a muslim lover?

Are you one of those liberals who think the US had it coming on 911? Do you celebrate every homicide bomber that that blows himself up in Israel? You must as you think these muslims are the good guys for attacking Russia.

That Quatar was sheltering a terrorist agent, I think Russia was more than justified in going after him themselves. There only mistake was in using a couple of agents rather than a few armored divisions.

[EYE SPY]

sixgun, shouldnt you be somewhere in the mountains talking to Jesus on your CB radio. i think the Feds are honing in on your moron waves.

[California Joe]

Wow, this is a really disturbing thread.

[AK-Lover]

Oh EYE SPY, hell no! You did not just say that
Poor, stupid little farmboys freezing their assess off and watching their Comrades get their heads cut off.

Russian soldiers are some of the gayest soldiers in the world. going down on each other and f*** each other in the ass.

Russians as a people are Whores. The men, women, children. All prostitutes.

Your whore Natasha women and your butt buddy sergei fudgepackers are the scum of the earth.

Russian pig. Your a little bitch, Permskii douchebag. You have been very skillfull in pretending to be Supersoldier to these numbnut 12 year olds on this site. OMON is nothing but a bunch of conscript goons who were unable to make it into the much more selective units.

Oh **** you, you american piece of ****! How dare you talk about somebody's country like that, look at your own cheating capitalist scum piece of **** country before talking about russia. You ****s kill innocent people for profit and make up bull**** to start wars, while telling you're media what to show and what not and then you go around the world acting like you're some big ****ing thugs and calling other countries oppressive? ****ers!

[California Joe]

You guys swear a lot.

[RomanS]

It means that guys like Milosevich and his gang should not be tried by an International War crimes tribunal,if other Nations dismiss International law as circumstantial!

You mean that these Russian agents broke Quatar law. The very concept of "International Law" is itself a violation to the national soveriegnty of all nations involved here.

This incident here is between the governments of Quatar and Russia.

That would be too quick, speznaz would still be hungry

[RomanS]

sixgun, shouldnt you be somewhere in the mountains talking to Jesus on your CB radio. i think the Feds are honing in on your moron waves.

asshole, you need to get the **** out of America you terrorist *** suckin piece of ****.

Go back to your Turkey bitch.

There is no place in the West for you fu ck e r

[EYE SPY]

i was born and raised in America you dirty russian immigrant.

why dont you, and your scum sucking welfare cheating phony jewish borscht eaters leave my country and die in your ****hole mother russia.

watch, putin is gonna get it and die like a little bitch. and every group from the Caucus to Siberia is gonna split apart from you faggoty AIDS ridden moscow.

you deginerate, diseased godless criminal race shoulda been exterminated by the NAZIs, Hitler the moron that he was spent his time killing a bunch of innocent german jew citizens and polish jews, while letting his eastern front collapse. Russians are the scum of the earth. bunch of white gypsies. good for nothing anus whores

[mustamato]

asshole, you need to get the f*** out of America you terrorist *** suckin piece of ****.

Go back to your Turkey bitch.

There is no place in the West for you fu ck e r

Interesting comment from a immigrant.


i was born and raised in America you dirty russian immigrant.

why dont you, and your scum sucking welfare cheating phony jewish borscht eaters leave my country and die in your ****hole mother russia.

watch, putin is gonna get it and die like a little bitch. and every group from the Caucus to Siberia is gonna split apart from you faggoty AIDS ridden moscow.

you deginerate, diseased godless criminal race shoulda been exterminated by the NAZIs, Hitler the moron that he was spent his time killing a bunch of innocent german jew citizens and polish jews, while letting his eastern front collapse. Russians are the scum of the earth. bunch of white gypsies. good for nothing anus whores

rofl rofl rofl Permskiii is so OWNED (not actually saying anything good
about eye spy here now since I haven´t read all the posts. But that was
just so funny that I had to comment it).

[RomanS]

i was born and raised in America you dirty russian immigrant.

why dont you, and your scum sucking welfare cheating phony jewish borscht eaters leave my country and die in your ****hole mother russia.

watch, putin is gonna get it and die like a little bitch. and every group from the Caucus to Siberia is gonna split apart from you faggoty AIDS ridden moscow.

you deginerate, diseased godless criminal race shoulda been exterminated by the NAZIs, Hitler the moron that he was spent his time killing a bunch of innocent german jew citizens and polish jews, while letting his eastern front collapse. Russians are the scum of the earth. bunch of white gypsies. good for nothing anus whores

aww look at the little baby again, rofl rofl

he was so mad, no he has to do pick up the paper towel to wipe the monitor. Your spit is all over the keyboard, your milk bottle, and your dipers.

I would die for America you terrorist muslim assgoat jihadist. Would you?

And by the way, we are long apart from each other, so if you grow those little balls of yours - walk into Brighton right now and tell them stinky Russians how you feel. See them stomp your karan reading ass to the ground, and no police would even help.

you need to realize that one of this day, maybe not me, but some American in NY would take your ****in jaw out for what you are saying here.

But actually you would just **** your pants, and come cry to your dumb mother that accepted your fathers sperm.
Thats what you are - ANOTHER WASTE OF SPERM TERRORIST LOVING DONKEY

[RomanS]

asshole, you need to get the f*** out of America you terrorist *** suckin piece of ****.

Go back to your Turkey bitch.

There is no place in the West for you fu ck e r

Interesting comment from a immigrant.


i was born and raised in America you dirty russian immigrant.

why dont you, and your scum sucking welfare cheating phony jewish borscht eaters leave my country and die in your ****hole mother russia.

watch, putin is gonna get it and die like a little bitch. and every group from the Caucus to Siberia is gonna split apart from you faggoty AIDS ridden moscow.

you deginerate, diseased godless criminal race shoulda been exterminated by the NAZIs, Hitler the moron that he was spent his time killing a bunch of innocent german jew citizens and polish jews, while letting his eastern front collapse. Russians are the scum of the earth. bunch of white gypsies. good for nothing anus whores

rofl rofl rofl Permskiii is so OWNED (not actually saying anything good
about eye spy here now since I haven´t read all the posts. But that was
just so funny that I had to comment it).

Oh look, the Swedish chihuahua is back,

Bark louder, I can't hear you, what?

[mustamato]

Bark louder, I can't hear you, what?

Can I move to Russia and ask people born there to fokk of? :roll:

[RomanS]

Bark louder, I can't hear you, what?

Can I move to Russia and ask people born there to fokk of? :roll:

I still can't hear you, WHAT???
keep barking louder

[mustamato]

Bark louder, I can't hear you, what?

Can I move to Russia and ask people born there to fokk of? :roll:

I still can't hear you, WHAT???
keep barking louder

I guess that´s a yes. The first one I´ll ask to fokk of will be your mom. Since
I am a gentleman I will atleast give her a ticket to Chechnya, will feel like home. :)

Makes about the same sence as EYE SPY moving to Turkey despite being born
in USA and everything. But hypocrisy is the king.

[EYE SPY]

whats all this about sperm, is it a freudian slip. ahh yes, the Russian faggot is talking about his famous beverage. Oh the big mighty Brighton Beach russians. They are so intimidating. Waiting in line with the puerto ricans and dominicans at the welfare office. waiting for their government cheese and housing payments. meanwhile none pay taxes. many defraud the government, they cheat, they steal, they pimp their own women and men.

sack of ****, i go through brighton beach everyday. you bull**** russkies are all the same. walking around with your skinheads. so retarded, the other day i saw this russkie ****, still thinking he was in the red army, he cut himself while shaving his head, ****in three inch gash on his skinhead.

Russia, and russians are some of the most screwed up people in the world. Thinking its ok to be psychopathic deginerates. thinking they are tough. nothing tough about russians, they dont know what tough is. being a barbarian and living in mental isolation doesnt make you tough,

why, because you dont know that their is an alternative to the ****hole to russia. your not tough.

every****ing russian in brighton beach is a bitch. they think they own the place. scumbag ingrates, you dont own ****. you all should be herded into jfk airport and sent back to the Rodina and never come back.

oh im so scared of the russians, Russians will start a fight withsomeone, then start saying nonsense like pickinga time and place to fight, and once your there its them and like 200 of their mongrel kind. those 200 mind you are thier cousins and brothers. Nobody bothered to tell their mother that its a ******, not a factory.

[EYE SPY]

native new yorker, who do you think your talking to here. born and lived through the **** years, the crack epidemics of the80s, crown heights riots, etc etc.

if your such a patriotic american, why dont you get your dirty countrymen to return every ****en penny that taxpayers like myself, my family and the rest of the Real Americans paid for through our hard work.

we dont have the luxury to go around every boiled cabbage infested rathole in brighton beach, since we are working people, unlike you russian scum.


break your jaw. you know what new yorkers think about you russian bastards

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/story/157214p-138058c.html

[Sixgun Symphony]

Eye Spy,

You from Brooklyn eh? What a sewer that is.

[EYE SPY]

yeah, you would know so much about brooklyn, right. i mean, from your posts we know you get around. Hell you probably traveled to foreign countries, like Canada. Go back to drinking your Starbucks and listening to that little bitch kurt cobain. and tell jesus says to tell you to change your batteries on your cb, he cant understand your jibberish.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Eye Spy, why are you taking so long to move over to Turkey? You love the muslim terrorists so much, get your nasty ass over there and don't come back.

[EYE SPY]

they are so cute with thier fuzzy beards, there like little stuffed rats.

what did i ever say that makes me a muslim terrorist lover.

why dont you shove your stupid remarks up your ass. You know most people who hate russians, hate arabs too. ever think about that.

ask jesus, he'll tell you so

[Sixgun Symphony]

You smoking crack?

Why don't you just STFU, the sane and sober people here would like to have a conversation.

[UkrainianAmerican]

i was born and raised in America you dirty russian immigrant.

why dont you, and your scum sucking welfare cheating phony jewish borscht eaters leave my country and die in your ****hole mother russia.

watch, putin is gonna get it and die like a little bitch. and every group from the Caucus to Siberia is gonna split apart from you faggoty AIDS ridden moscow.

you deginerate, diseased godless criminal race shoulda been exterminated by the NAZIs, Hitler the moron that he was spent his time killing a bunch of innocent german jew citizens and polish jews, while letting his eastern front collapse. Russians are the scum of the earth. bunch of white gypsies. good for nothing anus whores
I am the last person to petition for someone to get banned, but you just stepped over MANY MANY lines right here buddy.
Where in Brooklyn do you live?

[EYE SPY]

oh yes, lovely conversations you have here. a bunch of drunk boorish russians continueing Putins propaganda that the Chechens are muslims.

an overwhelming majority of adolescent gun nuts with stunted libidos

a few UK members with that loveable dry British wit and an occasional Scandavian brain fart.

oh yes, what lovely conversations you have here.

if your so concerned about my mental condition and about what im typing, why are u responding. is it because this has probably been some of the most interesting 30 minutes in your whole day.

Time for sleep now, bye bye filthy russian guys.

[UkrainianAmerican]

whats all this about sperm, is it a freudian slip. ahh yes, the Russian faggot is talking about his famous beverage. Oh the big mighty Brighton Beach russians. They are so intimidating. Waiting in line with the puerto ricans and dominicans at the welfare office. waiting for their government cheese and housing payments. meanwhile none pay taxes. many defraud the government, they cheat, they steal, they pimp their own women and men.

sack of ****, i go through brighton beach everyday. you bull**** russkies are all the same. walking around with your skinheads. so retarded, the other day i saw this russkie f***, still thinking he was in the red army, he cut himself while shaving his head, f*** three inch gash on his skinhead.

Russia, and russians are some of the most screwed up people in the world. Thinking its ok to be psychopathic deginerates. thinking they are tough. nothing tough about russians, they dont know what tough is. being a barbarian and living in mental isolation doesnt make you tough,

why, because you dont know that their is an alternative to the ****hole to russia. your not tough.

f*** russian in brighton beach is a bitch. they think they own the place. scumbag ingrates, you dont own ****. you all should be herded into jfk airport and sent back to the Rodina and never come back.

oh im so scared of the russians, Russians will start a fight withsomeone, then start saying nonsense like pickinga time and place to fight, and once your there its them and like 200 of their mongrel kind. those 200 mind you are thier cousins and brothers. Nobody bothered to tell their mother that its a ******, not a factory.
Um, I am not on welfare, never was, and definitely make enough money to really benefit from the "tax cuts for the rich".
So shut the f*ck up, asshole.

P.S. Just out of curiosity what is your ethnic/religious background?

[Russian Texan]

permskii, if you hate muslims so bad, why dont you go and do something about it.


If you hate russians so much, why don't you go and do something about it? :)

Dear Sir, based on your post, I'd say that you have some SERIOUS issues...

You live in Brooklyn, NY, right? So since you hate russians so much and seem to be very outspoken about it, why don't you go to Bryton Beach, stand in the middle of the street and repeat everything what you just posted here out loud?
It is very easy to be brave and opinionated behind keyboard and on the phone but what about real life?... ;)

I am sorry to dissapoint you but the fact of life is that arabs wouldn't be much help to chechens. As the history shows, arabs are piss poor fighters and always are on the recieving end.
How many wars to Israel, a tiny country with a small population, did they lose?
Terrorism against civilians is simply a sign of desperation and cowardness...

It is kinda off topic but how many famous arab boxers do you know? I have been boxing since I was 14, in both Russia and US, and yet to meet a single fighter of an arabic descent... The reason I brought up this example is to demonstrate the lack of toughness and spirit among arabs.


OMON is nothing but a bunch of conscript goons who were unable to make it into the much more selective units.
And insult left aside, what are "much more selective units"?
BTW, OMON can not be "a bunch of conscripts" by definition, it is not an army ;)

To put in perspective for 12 year olds and rednecks around here - russians of certain occupations and way of life, same people who laught at FBI and beat up american cops, are afraid of only one thing and that thing is OMON because OMON literaly "kicks ass" and asks questions later...

BTW, where all this hatred comes from? What made you so disgruntled?
Did russians rob or beat you up in NY?

[Russian Texan]

Eye Spy

Waiting in line with the puerto ricans and dominicans at the welfare office
How would you know? Are you usually in the begining or in the end of the line? ;)


to return every f*** penny that taxpayers like myself
Ok, now here is contradiction... I mean one minute you are spending your days in the welfare office and next day you are big ticket taxpayer? :)

[Sixgun Symphony]

,have the Quatari's also not got agencies to deal with "Terrorists" and the likes?Why did you not let them do the job?


If Russian agents had to go after this guy, then it was because the Quatari's were giving him refuge.

[SeanAshi]

Cold War is over, " Can't we all just get along?" Rodney King.

[Sixgun Symphony]

[quote=EYE SPY]

To put in perspective for 12 year olds and rednecks around here - russians of certain occupations and way of life, same people who laught at FBI and beat up american cops, are afraid of only one thing and that thing is OMON because OMON literaly "kicks ass" and asks questions later...


Might I point out that Eye Spy is a liberal from Brooklyn N.Y.

You don't have to explain it to the rednecks, we respect fighters. It is the 12yr olds and the wuss liberals like Eye Spy from Brooklyn that needs to have things explained to them.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Cold War is over, " Can't we all just get along?" Rodney King.

I got no beef with the Russians.

I am anti-communist. But I am not and never was anti-Russian.

I should point out that this "Eye Spy" person is a red diaper baby. Very typical for Brooklyn.

[TALOS]

wow, this thread went all to hell. Eye spy, if you think everyone here is so far below you why are you here?
For the russian guys, just cuz eye makes hate filled comments about ur people and country dont respond in kind, he doesnt represent the people of the states or canada.(ok, well maybe there are more terro sympathizers up here but still....)
Seriously guys, this hate, I'm sure, has completely crossed the lines of the agreement we all sign to be here.
Im not askin ya to sing Koombaya but try to use coherent arguments not hate filled diatribe.

Now I guess the flaming continues *sigh*

[Fox2]

Wow. This mudslinging needs to stop. Where's the new moderators? Why aren't they stepping in here?



The reason I brought up this example is to demonstrate the lack of toughness and spirit among arabs.

I take issue with this, RT. This comment is just as racist as EYE SPY's hate of the Slavic people.

I am an American of Israeli-Arab descent. I am just as tough or spirited as any other red-blooded American could be. I am just as American as any other in this country and have just as much spirit and strength as anyone else. My genetics or race has nothing at all to do with that. To say that all arabs, or any race for that matter, are weak or unmotivated is as ridiculous, baseless, and utterly juvenile as saying that all Russians are poor, murderous, and stupid.

Everyone, before replying to a juvenile or racist post, please remember not to post with more of the same.

Let's all stay calm.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Wow. This mudslinging needs to stop. Where's the new moderators? Why aren't they stepping in here?


I sent a personal message, lets see how long it takes before they get around to it.

[Fox2]

This is just so juvenile and unnecessary.

I'm disappointed in you, PermskiiOMON. I don't know EYE SPY from Adam, so I don't have expectations of him. But, I thought you were a mature adult. Not one to simply return a wrong for a wrong.

This racist crud needs to stop now.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Wow. This mudslinging needs to stop. Where's the new moderators? Why aren't they stepping in here?



The reason I brought up this example is to demonstrate the lack of toughness and spirit among arabs.

I take issue with this, RT. This comment is just as racist as EYE SPY's hate of the Slavic people.

I am an American of Israeli-Arab descent. I am just as tough or spirited as any other red-blooded American could be. I am just as American as any other in this country and have just as much spirit and strength as anyone else. My genetics or race has nothing at all to do with that. To say that all arabs, or any race for that matter, are weak or unmotivated is as ridiculous, baseless, and utterly juvenile as saying that all Russians are poor, murderous, and stupid.

Everyone, before replying to a juvenile or racist post, please remember not to post with more of the same.

Let's all stay calm.
woot
Finally, a voice of reason!
:hug:

[Russian Texan]

Might I point out that Eye Spy is a liberal from Brooklyn N.Y.

You don't have to explain it to the rednecks, we respect fighters. It is the 12yr olds and the wuss liberals like Eye Spy from Brooklyn that needs to have things explained to them.

It was a stupid remark to make and I sincerely appologize.
Actually I encounter rednecks quite frequently, after all I live in Texas :) , and find them extremely likable, friendly and down to earth guys.
Some of them are "way out there" but for me it is much easier to find common grounds with a redneck than with a hippy liberals.

Anyhow, I should realy watch my mouth considering where I live :)

[Russian Texan]

Wow. This mudslinging needs to stop. Where's the new moderators? Why aren't they stepping in here?



The reason I brought up this example is to demonstrate the lack of toughness and spirit among arabs.

I take issue with this, RT. This comment is just as racist as EYE SPY's hate of the Slavic people.

I am an American of Israeli-Arab descent. I am just as tough or spirited as any other red-blooded American could be. I am just as American as any other in this country and have just as much spirit and strength as anyone else. My genetics or race has nothing at all to do with that. To say that all arabs, or any race for that matter, are weak or unmotivated is as ridiculous, baseless, and utterly juvenile as saying that all Russians are poor, murderous, and stupid.

Everyone, before replying to a juvenile or racist post, please remember not to post with more of the same.

Let's all stay calm.

I absolutely agree with you, it is a racist comment but I am not into political correctness, sorry...

Granted I am generalizing but it only reflects my personal experiences and opinions. I have a lebanese neighbor, he lives across the street, one time he called cops on me and another time he run away and sent his wife to deal with me while him and his brother were watching from the house.

From my personal experience those arabs that I have encountered, it wasn't many but humans tend to generalize, have very short fuse, extremely loud, tough on talk, weak on action and tend to run away once it gets down to business... Of course there are people like this in every ethnicity but arabs have the worst, known to me, fight record.
I do not hate arabs, I just do not have any respect for them as fighters and that is my very own politically incorrect opinion :|

BTW, I can tell you the very reason why EYE SPY is so agitated: recently there were several occasions in Chechnya when russian troops killed "rebels" and found them to be turks or turkish citizens and all of that was shown on TV. It is a pride matter for him that his own got powned, simple like that :)

[Catch22]

Permskii, RT and other russian guys around here - have you noticed what happened to this thread like some 3 pages ago? You guys simply dont let yourselves to be provoked with such spam as EYE posts... Instead of that Permskii starts sending to talk with this Mofo on his terms, instantly attracts musta-Kekkonen to join in the brawl and there we go - neverending accusations of zoophilia, homoerotic preferences and **** like that? What does it prove guys? Think for a second...

I wish we'd get back to reasonable discussion on the given topic...

And I think I support the ban request for Mr. "Brooklyn Boogie" EYESPY.

[mack pl]

Cool discussion,about Russian in Qatar,yeah???Uhhhh.Very hot discussion,and very cultural ;) So, what happens with this Russian now?Are they still in prison?I hope war Brooklyn vs Russia was over ;)

[Fox2]

I absolutely agree with you, it is a racist comment but I am not into political correctness, sorry...

Granted I am generalizing but it only reflects my personal experiences and opinions. I have a lebanese neighbor, he lives across the street, one time he called cops on me and another time he run away and sent his wife to deal with me while him and his brother were watching from the house.

From my personal experience those arabs that I have encountered, it wasn't many but humans tend to generalize, have very short fuse, extremely loud, tough on talk, weak on action and tend to run away once it gets down to business... Of course there are people like this in every ethnicity but arabs have the worst, known to me, fight record.
I do not hate arabs, I just do not have any respect for them as fighters and that is my very own politically incorrect opinion :|

I couldn't care less about political correctness, RT. It is infact very racist though. It would be comparable to saying all Russians are stubborn, hotheaded, and unwilling to admit they are wrong. Which is the case with Russians I have met or spoken with. However, that would be wrong because I know that there is most likely a large percentage of Russian people who don't fit that bill.

I just ask that instead of returning wrong for wrong, you just treat juvenile, immature people like they should be treated. Ignore them, and in this case, with EYE SPY, and the vulgarity of his posts, contact a moderator. It's simple as that.

I too, support banning EYE SPY for his remarks, but ask that others do not stoop to his level.

[EYE SPY]

isnt it ironic that if someone here is saying somehting anti russian they should be banned.

I have not said anything on this board that Permskii hasnt said about chechens or arabs or muslims.

is there a double standard here? is it that its ok to bash arabs and chechens (i never claimed to support them, and i dont)

and not ok to say anything about russians.

or maybe there is a double standard because Permksii is your little .jpg whore, giving you all the photos of Slavic Soldiery.

Red Diaper baby? Honestly do you believe that, especially since your coming from one of the most leftist cities in America (Seattle)

Oh yes the moderators, the moderators dont give a **** about anything on this board. Oh sure, they will probably ban me to make an example and make it seem that they are doing their job. But you didnt say any mods threatening to ban permskii or some other slav douchebag from uttering nonsense against various ethnic groups


hey numbnuts, go to the DMV in coney island and the food stamp office is right there. you see every goddamn russian in brighton beach waiting in line with $5,000 handbags and thousands in jewlery, for what, their government cheese. you russians are not even worth the government cheese. Maybe thats why you are so ready to kill and die. because you are meaningless.

i filed my 1040a, did you. probably not, your probably not old enough to even work, and your gay *** prostitution doesnt allow you to submit your taxes. besides, what do they pay u these days a shot of vodka per blow?

Bitch, i live 20 minutes away from brighton beach. **** brighton beach, brighton beach is a dirty cesspool. Im not sure if it is the unwashed Russians giving brighton beach that smell, or is it brighton beach thats giving the russians that smell

learn to spell, its Brighton, not bryton.

[Argyll]

Holy sh*t I go away for the night to a Regimental Reunion and come back to this...........Take a good hard look at yourselves,I'm locking this thread,I moved it originally as there seemed to be the basis for some reasonable debating on this one,instead it has turned into a Racist issue.

I will not tolerate Race issues to this extent,I will not hesitate to issue warnings about racial abuse on this site.!!