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perdurabo
02-27-2004, 09:18 AM
moust known:
PZL 130 Orlik
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl_x/pzl130.jpg
I22 Iryda (canceled :( i'm so sad :( )
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl_i-x/i22a.jpg
M-26 Iskierka
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl_m-x/pzlm26a.jpg
TS 11 Iskra
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/ts/ts11.jpg

Projects only:
Kobra 2000 (competitor to Scorpion)
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pozostale2/kobra.jpg
TS 16 Grot
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/ts/ts16.jpg
(project from 50' plane similiar to Jaguar canceled by russians)

pics stolen from this site:
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/index.htm
in polish but menu is easy to navigate so you shouldn't have problems with that maybe not meany pics but contins almoust all planes build/projected in poland...

mustamato
02-27-2004, 09:20 AM
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl_i-x/i22a.jpg

Advanced trainer/Light attack? Hm, seems to be a oneseater.

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 09:30 AM
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl_i-x/i22a.jpg

Advanced trainer/Light attack? Hm, seems to be a oneseater.
Yes this one is one seater in second cocpit was placed electronic for tests :) and it was :( trainer/light attack plane
(inspired by AlphaJet witch is visible :) )

mack pl
02-27-2004, 09:34 AM
We need buy few dozen new trainer planes, before we get F16.

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 09:38 AM
We need buy few dozen new trainer planes, before we get F16.
Yes but i'm 100% sure they will not buy Iryda :(
does some one have pics of bielik/iskra2/to_coś_co_buduje_Margański??

mack pl
02-27-2004, 09:41 AM
Polish air force dont buy Iryda.We have 9 Iryda, but Air Force dont used them.This planes are in Mielec,in factory.Army dont want them.

tomcat1974
02-27-2004, 09:44 AM
Well you could buy the Iar 99 Soim - modern avionics thanx to our Israelians friends :) HUD, MILSTD databus, etc what ever u want to train for F-16 :)

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 09:48 AM
http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/poland/pzl_i-22_1.jpg
Designed to replace TS-11 "Iskra". The first prototype flew on March 5, 1985. Entered service in 1992 (and in ~1997 canceled)
http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/poland/pzl_i-22_2.jpg

With older eingine:
Crew: 2, engine: 2 x PZL-5 SO-3W22, 10.7kN, wingspan: 9.6m, length: 13.2m, height: 4.3m, wing area: 19.9m2, start mass: 6900kg, empty mass: 4700kg, max speed: 840kph, cruise speed: 570kph, ceiling: 11000m, range w/max.fuel: 4000km, range w/max.payload: 420km, armament: 1 x 23mm cannon, weapons on four external hardpoints

Mack they where used until change for new K-15 eingine in 95?97?

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 09:51 AM
Well you could buy the Iar 99 Soim - modern avionics thanx to our Israelians friends :) HUD, MILSTD databus, etc what ever u want to train for F-16 :)

aaa devil! kill kill arghhhhhh /jumps on tomcat with red eyes and big knife/
I think that I-22 would do ok afther "litlle" changes... :)

-Max2-
02-27-2004, 09:55 AM
http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/poland/pzl_i-22_2.jpg

Looks a lot like a Alpha Jet... :)

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 10:03 AM
Helos:
SW4:
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sw-4_1.jpg
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sw-4.jpg
4/5 seat civil helicopter of conventional streamlined appearance with all-metal monocoque fuselage, single three-blade main rotor, skid u/c, tail fin and small tailplane with endplate fins. Powered by one 450shp Allison 250-C20R turboshaft. Alternative powerplant is 615shp P&W PW200/9.

W-3
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sokol_1.jpg
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sokol.jpg
capacity for two crew and twelve passengers. Aimed at the full range of civil and military applications,On 31 May 1993, it became the first Eastern bloc helicopter to be awarded FAA certification...

SM-2
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sm-2.jpg
The SM-2, a Polish development of the basic design SM1 wich was licensed Mi1, was flown late in 1959. This has a longer nose, thereby enlarging the cabin to accommodate 4 passengers in addition to the pilot. In the ambulance role, the SM-2 can take a third stretcher inside the cabin in addition to the two carried on external panniers. Production of the SM-2 was initiated in 1961 to fulfil both military and civil orders.

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
02-27-2004, 10:30 AM
Helos:
SM-2
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/pzl_sm-2.jpg
The SM-2, a Polish development of the basic design SM1 wich was licensed Mi1, was flown late in 1959. This has a longer nose, thereby enlarging the cabin to accommodate 4 passengers in addition to the pilot. In the ambulance role, the SM-2 can take a third stretcher inside the cabin in addition to the two carried on external panniers. Production of the SM-2 was initiated in 1961 to fulfil both military and civil orders.

They were withdrawn and scrapped looooooong time ago :D

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 10:36 AM
PZL Kania
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/pzl_kania.jpg
Basicly Mi-2 fitted with recontoured nose, composite main rotor blades and two 420shp Allison 250-C20B turboshafts. 3530kg TOGW. First fly in 1975
more data:
http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=319

BTW
Augusta/Bell AB139
newest helo of augusta has haull built in PZL Świdnik (Poland)
http://www.russian.ee/~star/vertigo/foto/agusta_ab-139.jpg
The new AB.139 - The medium twin engine helicopter capable of carrying up to 15 passengers or 2500kg useful load at 157 knots, in the most spacious cabin and with power to spare.

The AB.139 combines the benefits of proven technology and the latest new-generation system integration and compliance with the demanding JAR/FAR 29 standards. Add these benefits to the latest safety features, and you have the best vertical lift capability in the medium twin class.

This aircraft is setting the new standard against which all medium twin helicopters will be measured to satisfy the operator's needs of today and tomorrow. ..

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 10:38 AM
They were withdrawn and scrapped looooooong time ago :D
I know but they where designed(hmm it's much more than upgrade of Mi1 so...) and produced in Poland so there is place for them also:)

perdurabo
02-27-2004, 11:40 AM
M26 Iskierka agian:
http://lotnictwo.net/galselect.php?p=0&ui=133&ti=150&mi=52&quer=reg.reg&selectby=datdat%20DESC&wpis=SP-DIF
http://lotnictwo.net/galselect.php?p=0&ui=133&ti=150&mi=52&quer=reg.reg&selectby=datdat%20DESC&wpis=SP-PIA
ed: Pic didn't worked.

Falco
02-27-2004, 11:44 AM
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pozostale2/kobra.jpg

It kinda looks like an F16 with the intake on the top.

Marmot1
02-28-2004, 04:10 AM
PZL -230 Scorpion (project abondoned few years ago)
http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~zawadka/scorpion_gor_kop_min.gif
http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~zawadka/scorpion7_kop_min.gif

http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~zawadka/scorpion_kop_min.gif

http://www.earthstation1.com/Aircraft/military/TN_pzl230-2.jpg
http://www.earthstation1.com/Aircraft/military/TN_pzl230_3.jpg

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
02-28-2004, 05:13 AM
PZL M28 Bryza/Skytruck:

Bryza (MPA version):
http://www.pzlmielec.pl/bryza_bis3.jpg

http://www.pzlmielec.pl/bryza_bis2.jpg

http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/galeria/bryza/obrazki/bryza1.jpg

http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/galeria/bryza/obrazki/bryza2.jpg

http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/galeria/bryza/obrazki/bryza4.jpg
M28 in old painting

Skytruck (transport version)

http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/galeria/bryza/obrazki/bryza5.jpg

perdurabo
02-28-2004, 05:24 AM
Meteor 2K:
!First Polish space rocket!(and last prabably:()
almoust no one know but Poland in 1970 made succeful lunch of Meteor2K rocket that flew above 100KM high witch is beyond earth... (99,6KM is border beatwin earth and space) so Poland is fifth country that lunched rocket to space...


Some rich american from michigan wants to make replica of M2K and lunch it:D
here is article in polish but there is one pic of M2K
http://www.geocities.com/wi-ko/st/meteory/meteory.html

Herrmannek
02-28-2004, 05:37 AM
Meteor 2K:
!First Polish space rocket!(and last prabably:()
almoust no one know but Poland in 1970 made succeful lunch of Meteor2K rocket that flew above 100KM high witch is beyond earth... (99,6KM is border beatwin earth and space) so Poland is fifth country that lunched rocket to space...


Some rich american from michigan wants to make replica of M2K and lunch it:D
here is article in polish but there is one pic of M2K
http://www.geocities.com/wi-ko/st/meteory/meteory.html

****in commies

perdurabo
02-28-2004, 05:43 AM
http://www.czasopismawlop.mil.pl/wiraze/w_numerzew/archiwumw/9-2003/alph5.jpg
I-22 Iryda with AlphaJet I-22 was inspired by AJ.

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
02-28-2004, 05:43 AM
I've found some pics! :D

http://yellowjacketsystems.com/alway/photos/meteor2h.jpg
Meteor-2 without booster engines

http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/images/RaketaMeteor2H.jpg

Rocket's length: 4,5m
weight: 380lg

Marmot1
02-28-2004, 05:48 AM
Tadeusz Andrzejewski connecting the power supply finalizes Meteor 2K assembly process.

Symbols painted:

At the top Aviation Institute logo presented as a spearhead indicating direction of the fly :).
"09" - serial number of Meteor 2 product
White-Red chessboard reference to Four-Field White-Red chessboard - symbol of Polish Air Forces.
Unique font of inscription "Meteor 2" taken from title of "Życie Warszawy" (Life of Warsaw) daily.

One of two M1 engins boosting start is well visible. The boosters were mounted to nodes previously designed to fix parachute recovery system.

http://www.geocities.com/wkobylinski/meteory/wiktor204a.jpg


and larger one...
http://www.geocities.com/wkobylinski/meteory/wiktor204.jpg

perdurabo
02-28-2004, 06:44 AM
ok next pics of Scorpion
http://www.astercity.net/~zprzemek/images/6.jpg
http://www.astercity.net/~zprzemek/images/7.jpg
this is first vision small STOL plane, 2000kg of weapons

http://www.astercity.net/~zprzemek/images/8.jpg
http://www.astercity.net/~zprzemek/images/11.jpg
when military decided that they want something quicker and with more weapons (4000kg)

http://www.astercity.net/~zprzemek/images/9.jpg
and next vision with stealth :)

then they make makeete
and then they go back to second vision, and then they canceled all...

perdurabo
02-28-2004, 06:51 AM
Bielik:
http://www.gorpol.krakow.pl/lotnictwo/bielik/oblot/dscf0039.jpg
It is flaying simulator/training plane it's small and cheap but fitted with electronics that simulates combat plane (it can be f-16 mig29 almoust everything) so its better than ground simulator.
more pics from first flight:
http://www.gorpol.krakow.pl/lotnictwo/bielik/oblot/bielik-oblot.html

perdurabo
02-29-2004, 01:21 PM
another TS16 Grot pic:
http://republika.pl/awiacja/Foto/ts-16.jpg

TS8 Bies
Training plane(60'):
http://republika.pl/awiacja/Foto/ts-8.jpg
was armed in one mg to train combat flights

TS9 Junak3
(also training plane form 50')
http://republika.pl/awiacja/Foto/ts-9.jpg