Austria Announces Turkey a Risky Country

[Pytheus]

Austria Announces Turkey a Risky Country

European Union Term President Austria has urged its people to be cautious of 19 Islamic countries, including Turkey, declaring them “far too risky” to visit.

Apart from Turkey, the following countries were also deemed risky in the list published on the official Web site of the Austrian Foreign Ministry, include:

Egypt, Algeria, Ethiopia, Iran, Jordan, Indonesia, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Palestine.

Austrian Foreign Minister Ursula Plassnik asked in a written notification the ambassadors in those countries to provide the best possible security for all European citizens. The notification further recalled, in accordance with the Vienna Diplomats Convention, those countries are responsible for keeping diplomats safe from any attacks.

The Danish administration released an official note urging Danes not to travel to some Muslim countries after the Danish embassies in Damascus and Beirut were torched. The attacks on embassies were staged as a result a bitter row protesting the publication of 12 cartoons satirizing the Prophet Mohammed.

On this advice from the Copenhagen government, nearly 3,000 Danish tourists cancelled their holiday bookings to Egypt.

The Danish Foreign Ministry indefinitely closed the Danish embassies in Indonesia and Thailand.

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20060207&hn=29500


:roll:

[ENSIGN FOREVER]

.....Turkey can kiss goodbye its EU bid. Kiss it goodbye.

[Chris]

and somehow I am proud of my country...

[East Scout]

Isnt the Austrian Flag based on the war against Turkish invasion? The white stripe is where the belt covered the white tunic keeping the blood of the slain Muslim invaders off the tunic and the red stripes are the blood of the defeated invaders...Arch Duke Leopold i think his name was

[U-S-S-R]

.....Turkey can kiss goodbye its EU bid. Kiss it goodbye.

I hope so. But then again, the US will probably be accusing the EU as 'racist' for not taking in that tarpit that's called Turkey. The US is the biggest drive behind Turkeys accestion to the EU.

[East Scout]

and somehow I am proud of my country...


As well you should be..Its a great country. I lived in Salzburg for a short time.

[Chris]

Isnt the Austrian Flag based on the war against Turkish invasion? The white stripe is where the belt covered the white tunic keeping the blood of the slain Muslim invaders off the tunic and the red stripes are the blood of the defeated invaders...Arch Duke Leopold i think his name was


I dont know his name, but jep, the myth says that after, the belt was removed the blood on the white clothes inspired the design of the flag.

brutal, but a nice story for a flag

[tsuri]

[Turkish Citizen Mode]No we are not a Muslim country! We are secular..1[/Turkish Citizen Mode]

Well it is wise to stay away but the turks have kept a low profile in this crisis, not burning buildings and making funny demonstrations.

But historically speaking, Turkey has always been a Risky country for Austria ;)

[U-S-S-R]

[Turkish Citizen Mode]No we are not a Muslim country! We are secular..1[/Turkish Citizen Mode]

Well it is wise to stay away but the turks have kept a low profile in this crisis, not burning buildings and making funny demonstrations.

But historically speaking, Turkey has always been a Risky country for Austria ;)

Not for Austria only. For the entire Europe. Or do you think the turkish advance would have stopped if they reached the heart of Europe?

----


theres one region here in austria where the turkish army slayed thousands of peoples because the werent able to enter the castle, and allthough its been hundrets of years now, there is some heavy antiturkish voice in this area.

Seems like some things are never forgotten.

Glad these things aren't forgotten. And many more Europeans need to learn more of their 'turko-european' history. Only a fool would make the same mistake twice. Turks were in Europe once, what did they cause? Why should things change now? Turkey is just as nationalistic and religiously charged as it used to be. Especially with a fundamentalist president ruling his 'Caliphate'.

[Chris]

[Turkish Citizen Mode]No we are not a Muslim country! We are secular..1[/Turkish Citizen Mode]

Well it is wise to stay away but the turks have kept a low profile in this crisis, not burning buildings and making funny demonstrations.

But historically speaking, Turkey has always been a Risky country for Austria ;)

theres one region here in austria where the turkish army slayed thousands of peoples because the werent able to enter the castle, and allthough its been hundrets of years now, there is some heavy antiturkish voice in this area.

Seems like some things are never forgotten.

[ENSIGN FOREVER]

I hope so. But then again, the US will probably be accusing the EU as 'racist' for not taking in that tarpit that's called Turkey. The US is the biggest drive behind Turkeys accestion to the EU.

That's just temporary politics. A couple of years from now, when we're out of Iraq, you'll see us give the finger to the whole thing.

[U-S-S-R]

That's just temporary politics. A couple of years from now, when we're out of Iraq, you'll see us give the finger to the whole thing.

Very doubtful as turkey is a bigtime ally of Israel.. And we wouldn't want piss off israel would we. Turkey now has acces to the oilrich Kaspian Sea. Turkey is the US-key to turko-mongolian central Asia. Nothing temporary about that. Unless the US takes a u-turn in it's politics.

[Pvt.Anderson]

.....Turkey can kiss goodbye its EU bid. Kiss it goodbye.

I hope so , not only because of that though , Turkey's joining would cost more than all the other states which are new joining together , this can not be financed , we don't have the money for that

[ENSIGN FOREVER]

I hope so , not only because of that though , Turkey's joining would cost more than all the other states which are new joining together , this can not be financed , we don't have the money for that


....and you don't want the "invasion" of members of a culture that do not want to assimilate to the European culture, eh?p-)

[Chris]

I hope so , not only because of that though , Turkey's joining would cost more than all the other states which are new joining together , this can not be financed , we don't have the money for that

as a result the euro would fall and the dollar gets stronger again, another important part for the us foreign politics

[East Scout]

....and you don't want the "invasion" of members of a culture that do not want to assimilate to the European culture, eh?p-)


I use to enjoy these kinds of conversations but it seems every thread leads to the same topic now.....

[tsuri]

as a result the euro would fall and the dollar gets stronger again, another important part for the us foreign politics

A weaker Euro would be a lot better for the Export Driven European Economies.

[U-S-S-R]

as a result the euro would fall and the dollar gets stronger again, another important part for the us foreign politics

Yes, a EU without turkey will be strong and a EU+turkey will never achieve that level.

[MakeWar87]

I hope so. But then again, the US will probably be accusing the EU as 'racist' for not taking in that tarpit that's called Turkey. The US is the biggest drive behind Turkeys accestion to the EU.

Yeah but I dont think this u.s is to fond of turkey since 2003 and europe well the majority of europe has led suppourt to the war on terror.

[U-S-S-R]

Yeah but I dont think this u.s is to fond of turkey since 2003 and europe well the majority of europe has led suppourt to the war on terror.

Turkey is too important for the US to let go. Ofcaurse some problems excist between Turkey and USrael, such as the israeli training of Kurdish fighters but they are not serious enough to break the axis of us-turkey-israel.

The 'Soviet threat' disappeared (like if there was ever one..), but the Turkey is a key-geopolitical ally of the US into Central Asia. Especially when China is buffing up.

[MakeWar87]

Turkey is too important for the US to let go. Ofcaurse some problems excist between Turkey and USrael, such as the israeli training of Kurdish fighters but they are not serious enough to break the axis of us-turkey-israel.

The 'Soviet threat' disappeared (like if there was ever one..), but the Turkey is a key-geopolitical ally of the US into Central Asia. Especially when China is buffing up.

I was refering to turkey not allowing the u.s to launch attacks on iraq. But you seem to know a lot more than me about foriegn relations in that area s I will take your word for it. So whats with isreal training kurds.
can you expalin this to me.

[U-S-S-R]

I was refering to turkey not allowing the u.s to launch attacks on iraq. But you seem to know a lot more than me about foriegn relations in that area s I will take your word for it. So whats with isreal training kurds.
can you expalin this to me.

I'm no expert either. :) So if anyone objects, please correct me.

Turkey doesn't like the fact that former :) Israeli agents are training kurdish anti-terrorists squads. Turkey is building a tense situation with objections to a semi-independent Kurdistan (In North-Iraq). It fears it will annex parts of Turkey. Historical Kurdistan covers parts of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. So the less powerful kurds are, the happier turkey is. It's interesting to know that Saddam was condoning turkish raids into Iraq as long as Kurdish civilians suffered.

Turkey is US-ally into Central Asia because a lot of Central Asian nations have turko-mongolian blood. One of such countries, Azerbaijan, recently built a pipeline from the oilrich Kaspian Sea to Turkey (through US ally Georgia). Kaspian Sea oil used to be a Russian monopoly, but now the rest of the world has acces to it.

A historical fact: Many turks dream of 'Turan'. A Turkey strechting from the Balkans to Siberia. They believe all of those areas are inhabited by turkic people. Thus planting American military bases all over the former Soviet republics won't cause a big backblast from the local governments / population if Turkey is a key ally of the US.

Also. Israel has very good ties with Turkey. As turks are not arabs and many turks see arabs as traitors (arabs worked together with the british and brought down the Ottoman Empire). So the Israeli kolonism in the Middle-East does not cause such strong reactions in Turkey.

[ed316]

I'm no expert either. :) So if anyone objects, please correct me.

Turkey doesn't like the fact that Israeli agents are training kurdish anti-terrorists squads. Turkey is building a tense situation with objections to a semi-independent Kurdistan (In North-Iraq). It fears it will annex parts of Turkey. Historical Kurdistan covers parts of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. So the less powerful kurds are, the happier turkey is. It's interesting to know that Saddam was condoning turkish raids into Iraq as long as Kurdish civilians suffered.

Turkey is US-ally into Central Asia because a lot of Central Asian nations have turko-mongolian blood. One of such countries, Azerbaijan, recently built a pipeline from the oilrich Kaspian Sea to Turkey (through US ally Georgia). Kaspian Sea oil used to be a Russian monopoly, but now the rest of the world has acces to it.

A historical fact: Many turks dream of 'Turan'. A Turkey strechting from the Balkans to Siberia. They believe all of those areas are inhabited by turkic people. Thus planting American military bases all over the former Soviet republics won't cause a big backblast from the local governments / population if Turkey is a key ally of the US.

Also. Israel has very good ties with Turkey. As turks are not arabs and many turks see arabs as traitors (arabs worked together with the british and brought down the Ottoman Empire). So the Israeli kolonism in the Middle-East does not cause such strong reactions in Turkey.

You forgot to state that they were FORMER Isreali covert agents.

[MakeWar87]

I'm no expert either. :) So if anyone objects, please correct me.

Turkey doesn't like the fact that former :) Israeli agents are training kurdish anti-terrorists squads. Turkey is building a tense situation with objections to a semi-independent Kurdistan (In North-Iraq). It fears it will annex parts of Turkey. Historical Kurdistan covers parts of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. So the less powerful kurds are, the happier turkey is. It's interesting to know that Saddam was condoning turkish raids into Iraq as long as Kurdish civilians suffered.

Turkey is US-ally into Central Asia because a lot of Central Asian nations have turko-mongolian blood. One of such countries, Azerbaijan, recently built a pipeline from the oilrich Kaspian Sea to Turkey (through US ally Georgia). Kaspian Sea oil used to be a Russian monopoly, but now the rest of the world has acces to it.

A historical fact: Many turks dream of 'Turan'. A Turkey strechting from the Balkans to Siberia. They believe all of those areas are inhabited by turkic people. Thus planting American military bases all over the former Soviet republics won't cause a big backblast from the local governments / population if Turkey is a key ally of the US.

Also. Israel has very good ties with Turkey. As turks are not arabs and many turks see arabs as traitors (arabs worked together with the british and brought down the Ottoman Empire). So the Israeli kolonism in the Middle-East does not cause such strong reactions in Turkey.

WoW very interesting I had no Idea about this.

[U-S-S-R]

WoW very interesting I had no Idea about this.

I probably left out many points, hopefully some other members will add more. :)

(Thanks, Ed)

[striker]

Isnt the Austrian Flag based on the war against Turkish invasion? The white stripe is where the belt covered the white tunic keeping the blood of the slain Muslim invaders off the tunic and the red stripes are the blood of the defeated invaders...Arch Duke Leopold i think his name was
Close but only quite p-)
Duke Leopold was no Arch Duke because he was a Babenberger not a Habsburg. The Babenbergers ruled Austria before the Habsburgs.
There where no Turkish invaders slain in the creation of our flag, because there where no Turks available back when and basically we where the invaders.
The story happened during the crusades, during the siege of Akkon I believe. So must have been Sarazens who got slaughterd. Leopold allegedly fought so furious that his white tunic was all soaked in blood. When he removed his armor after the battle the white stripe got visible and he decided this to be his battle flag
The fama goes on: King of England Richard the Lionhearted (Yes of Robin Hood fame) personally removed an Austrian flag from the walls of the citadel, because he didn't like the fact that the Austrians where in there before the English knights.
Duke Leopold didn't take that too kindly and later captured Richard when he was on his way back from the crusade. Richard disguised himself as a Knights Templar while travelling through Leopolds land but was spotted because he whore an expensive ring. The templers had to be poor according to their orders rule, so the ring didn't really fit the disguise.
Richard has been held in captivity in Austria for a few years and then released for an enormous ransom which was used to jumpstart the development of the City of Vienna.

Thus ends a fairy tale and now back to serious business:

The article at the beginning of this threat is misleading on purpose.
The Austrian Government didn't issue a travel warning for Turkey and other islamic nations thus singling out Turkey as the headline implies.
The Austrians issued travel warnings for many moslem nations, Turkey is only one on the list. Nothing to do with the Turkish-Austrian relations over EU membership or our common history. The warnings cover all the countries where recent violence against westerners or their institutions happened because of the cartoons. Turkey got on the list because an italian priest was shot there the same day.
So we just witness another newspaper putting oil in the flames by twisting facts to suit their agenda.

Where would man be if man would develop the skill of checking facts first before we follow the guidance the media gives us?

edit: i just heeded my own advice and tried to find out facts. Funny enough I couldn't find a travel warning for Turkey on the Austrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs site. Maybe it never existed?

Whats's going on here?

To paraphrase a great old one: "Just some thoughts"

[Greek soldier]

Turan? The Young Turks had such a plan, but it dates back in the 1920's...

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/turan-land.gif

[Clearday-TRForce]

There are some alliances in the world.


Russia - China - Iran - N.Korea-Venezuela etc..

and

USA-some Europe-Turkey-Israel-India etc...


Everybody should understand what is going on in the central asia and other parts in context of alliances.

USA keep Turkey country update due to its influence on balkans-middle east-caspian-central asia(Many Turkish tribes,states)

-Germany (over 2 ml)
-Balkans (over 2 ml)
-Kırgizistan
-Azerbaijan
-Kazakistan
-Pakistan
-Iran (over 16 ml Azeri Turks)
-Turkmenistan
-Georgia (500 thousand Turks)
-Some part of China (Uygur Turks)
-many...

so it s more complicated than anyone discuss here.



regards,
CDTRF

[Clearday-TRForce]

Greek soldier,


The map is not big enough for us rofl...mate what are you doing here? joining a campaign about not to take these Turks due to they will invade whole europe.p-) sense? where?

[U-S-S-R]

Turan? The Young Turks had such a plan, but it dates back in the 1920's...

http://www.hunmagyar.org/turan/turan.jpg

:)

This is just a dream though. Just like a big pan-Slavia strechting from Siberia to the borders of Germany and Turkey.

[Greek soldier]

No Clearday, I just thought that "Turan" was history... But U-S-S-R said that it still active... I am a bit confused.

[Clearday-TRForce]

This is just a dream though. Just like a big pan-Slavia strechting from Siberia to the borders of Germany and Turkey.


This is just a dream of dreamers...I have suddenly felt watching a Peter Pan film...:) yeahhh all world will belong to us...:cantbeli: woot

[U-S-S-R]

No Clearday, I just thought that "Turan" was history... But U-S-S-R said that it still active... I am a bit confused.

Grey Wolves are still dreaming about it. A criminal organisation that has rooted itself deeply in European countries where turks form a sizable minority. With turkey as it's homebase.

[Greek soldier]

U-S-S-R, I am leaving this thread 'cos the Turks will get angry for mentioning the Grey Wolves...

[Clearday-TRForce]

U-S-S-R, I am leaving this thread 'cos the Turks will get angry for mentioning the Grey Wolves...


Hey please dont go...The best wolf that I know is in mountain now with his band.:) and it seems to me "harmless"...do you?

[Greek soldier]

Yes. But I meant this Grey Wolf

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/3/30/300px-Kurt.jpg

Bye! *running away from being banned by DA MODS*

[Clearday-TRForce]

Yes. But I meant this Grey Wolf

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/3/30/300px-Kurt.jpg

Bye! *running away from being banned by DA MODS*


it looks like red,doesnt it?


ohh what a lovely animals...
http://www.holmbergphoto.com/images/wl-wolves%20big.jpg

[Kontra1]

Beautiful sight...

http://www.turkcu.org/forum/orkunturk1.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/go4aa1/bozok2uw.gif

[Pytheus]

are you gray wolves clearday and kontra?

[Beykoz]

striker,
Thanks for your contribution mate, that was an interesting read.




edit: i just heeded my own advice and tried to find out facts. Funny enough I couldn't find a travel warning for Turkey on the Austrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs site. Maybe it never existed?

Whats's going on here?

Don't mind the Greek folk.
They are not really interested in the current news, it's just a hobby for them to dig up dirt on Turkey.

[Esszett]

Duke Leopold didn't take that too kindly and later captured Richard when he was on his way back from the crusade. Richard disguised himself as a Knights Templar while travelling through Leopolds land but was spotted because he whore an expensive ring. The templers had to be poor according to their orders rule, so the ring didn't really fit the disguise.
Richard has been held in captivity in Austria for a few years and then released for an enormous ransom which was used to jumpstart the development of the City of Vienna.
Nice post striker.
Always loved the story behind the Austrian flag.
But didn't the imprisonment of Richard Lionheart have to do with the fact that he was a Welfe while the Babenbergers were related to the Staufers?
At least that's what I've learned.
(Yes I know, I am a nitpicker. p-))

[U-S-S-R]

Don't forget who is the king, you little hyena's.

http://www.photographersdirect.com/news/200408images/wolf_bear.jpg

You only hunt in cowardish packs, when faced alone you always go down the drain. (just like in real-life)

http://zee.no-ip.org/albums/album44/bear.sized.jpg

http://www.tribulation.com/images/SS27_M.jpg

[Pytheus]

Don't forget who is the king, you little hyena's.

http://www.photographersdirect.com/news/200408images/wolf_bear.jpg

You only hunt in cowardish packs, when faced alone you always go down the drain. (just like in real-life)

http://zee.no-ip.org/albums/album44/bear.sized.jpg

http://www.tribulation.com/images/SS27_M.jpg

woot AMEN to that!!!

:D

[MakeWar87]

How did we get from talking about turkey to posting pics of wolves ah men this is weird

[Kontra1]

How did we get from talking about turkey to posting pics of wolves ah men this is weird

Just follow the greek and the russian contributers' posts...;) still nothing new.

[Beykoz]

Don't forget who is the king, you little hyena's.
Get on your bike and start pedalling boy. The only king you can relate to is Rodney King.





http://www.tribulation.com/images/SS27_M.jpg Instead of wasting money on weapons research, Russia should issue every snot-nosed boy like you with a keyboard and put'em in front line of battle.
When the crunch time comes, you can do a lot of damage with a keyboard, can't you...?

[Kontra1]

http://www.tribulation.com/images/SS27_M.jpg

They got rid of these things for a few tons of wheat in return from the US...didn't they?

[Clearday-TRForce]

are you gray wolves clearday and kontra?

No I m white...sometimes lil bit red after ***. rofl

[Pytheus]

No I m white...sometimes lil bit red after ***. rofl

still no answer... YES, OR NO ??? :roll:

[U-S-S-R]

still no answer... YES, OR NO ??? :roll:

Ofcaurse not, these wannabe's are far from that. Not having tasted anything from real life from the streets, talking tough on internet. rofl rofl

[striker]

Nice post striker.
Always loved the story behind the Austrian flag.
But didn't the imprisonment of Richard Lionheart have to do with the fact that he was a Welfe while the Babenbergers were related to the Staufers?
At least that's what I've learned.
(Yes I know, I am a nitpicker. p-))

could be, that that was a reason too. I've always thought it was just for the money, and the alleged mistreatment of our flag was propaganda to cover up the fact that it was simply kidnapping for ransom.
But its a nice story and sure sounds better than: "Our flag was created by slaughtering muslims by the truckload and besides we have been in this kidnapping business long before them."
Just kidding, I hope they don't start to burn our embassies now. Oh wait, they've done that already
Richard btw was a hell of a warrior himself. Of the 10 years he was King of England, he spent only 6 month there. The rest of the time he spent fighting wherever he could. He died beleaguring some french castle. Got shot with a crossbow in the shoulder and died of wound infection because some metal of the bolt stayed in the wound.
Anyway the fama has it, that immediately after beeing shot he congratulated the shooter for his skills. Prolly shouted "Good shot" up the wall.
Nice style if you consider how big and heavy those crossbow bolts where. (Below some I found near medieval castles). Imagine yelling compliments when one of those babes just hit you.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5900/11010029se.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11010029se.jpg)http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9130/11010037lf.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11010037lf.jpg)

[Clearday-TRForce]

Of course not, these wannabe's are far from that. Not having tasted anything from real life from the streets, talking tough on internet. rofl rofl


talking tough on internet doesnt belong to me only,you ex-U-S-S-R wannabe.We have tested many things from real life,seen streets,universities,offices...etc...the best thing for us to keep logical mind live.So when we see you here,we get rest with rofl




still no answer... YES, OR NO ???

I have answered before. Dont you have a member of WCF? how can you ask me that question while you are *still* a member? have you seen anything about wolves involve for me? NOoooo...So?


But I like wolves...how I cant? p-)

http://www.units.muohio.edu/dragonfly/com/howl2.jpg


Istanbul is very sunny...hi to all. :)


regards,
CDTRF

[Scyth]

Ofcaurse not, these wannabe's are far from that. Not having tasted anything from real life from the streets, talking tough on internet. rofl rofl

I'm gonna get miself a nice Russian slu-t tonite and spank her arse so hard she'll ask for more.

[U-S-S-R]

I'm gonna get miself a nice Russian slu-t tonite and spank her arse so hard she'll ask for more.

Nice flamebait, turkey.

No wonder you'll take a real woman over a mustashed shemale.

[Pytheus]

Turks are so ugly that can get laid only by paying...rofl

[U-S-S-R]

Turks are so ugly that can get laid only by paying...rofl

You mean the men or the women? Because.. how to say... the 'women' aren't supermodels also... ;) No wonder they wrap them up in headscarfs and make them stay at home. Would you want to be seen with this?

http://www.richgros.com/Travel/People/baby.jpg

rofl rofl rofl

[Pytheus]

Because.. how to say... the 'women' aren't supermodels also... ;) No wonder they wrap them up in headscarfs and make them stay at home.
rofl rofl rofl

lol, yeah... even the PM of Turkey, the honorable mr Erdogan makes his wife to be covered with these graveclothes...

Can't blame him:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38437000/jpg/_38437745_erdwife_ap150.jpg

rofl rofl








BTW, why did J.J.R. Tolkien gave to the ugliest creatures of the Lord of the Rings the name "ORCS"?

The word "orc" reminds me a similar sound... hmmm... let's say... "Turk" (that in older times it was called "Tork") !!! ;)


http://www.lordoftherings.net/media/desktops/darkness_orcs_800.jpg

[U-S-S-R]

BTW, why did J.J.R. Tolkien gave to the ugliest creatures of the Lord of the Rings the name "ORCS"?

The word "orc" reminds me a similar sound... hmmm... let's say... "Turk" (that in older times it was called "Tork") !!! ;-)

Don't get me started on the LOTR series and some of the 'similarities' some actors display with some real life people. ;)

[Ayura]

This thread = hilirious.

[Beykoz]

[quote=Pytheus]
Turks are so ugly that can get laid only by paying...rofl

You mean the men or the women? Because.. how to say... the 'women' aren't supermodels also... ;) No wonder they wrap them up in headscarfs and make them stay at home. Would you want to be seen with this?

http://www.richgros.com/Travel/People/baby.jpg

rofl rofl rofl

lol, yeah... even the PM of Turkey, the honorable mr Erdogan makes his wife to be covered with these graveclothes...

Can't blame him:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38437000/jpg/_38437745_erdwife_ap150.jpg

rofl rofl
BTW, why did J.J.R. Tolkien gave to the ugliest creatures of the Lord of the Rings the name "ORCS"?

The word "orc" reminds me a similar sound... hmmm... let's say... "Turk" (that in older times it was called "Tork") !!! ;)


http://www.lordoftherings.net/media/desktops/darkness_orcs_800.jpg


Don't get me started on the LOTR series and some of the 'similarities' some actors display with some real life people.


Cletus and U-S-S-R,

Disagreeing with one's belief is one thing, ridiculing them another. Those women you are making fun of, is someone else's mother.

Of course, all the Greek and Russian women i met were stunners. There are no Greek or Russian women in this world resembling the pictures you posted. :roll: Fvcken idiots.

It's obvious that you two have no intention of making a worthwhile contribution to any thread, especially if it involves Turks.

Moderators : How much longer do we have to put up with this crap..? I've seen people banned for less than what these two are carrying on with for the past few days. Is this considered acceptable...? If it is, you might as well unban Achilles, so we can have a decent stoush, not some childish pic posting contest.

[Pytheus]

flames are carried by the turks, and we just defend ourselves.

[Beykoz]

flames are carried by the turks, and we just defend ourselves.
Is that how you perceive it...?

A quick search of your post history will disprove your theory to anyone !

[Cabbage]

Can you feel the love....? :)

[Drunkensquid]

turkey doesn't belong in the EU, never has, never will

[Kontra1]

turkey doesn't belong in the EU, never has, never will

Amen to that bro!!!

Now, all we need more ppl like you in europe also to speed up the rejection process...no need to wait 10-15 years to decide for that ;)

[Drunkensquid]

I don't get it, who is pushing for turkey's entry in the EU? If you ask, most Europeans are against it, it just doesn't make sence. Turks have nothing to do with Europe, not culturally, not racially and not by religion. I am saying that having visited turkey.

[Clearday-TRForce]

I don't get it, who is pushing for turkey's entry in the EU? If you ask, most Europeans are against it, it just doesn't make sence. Turks have nothing to do with Europe, not culturally, not racially and not by religion. I am saying that having visited turkey.


woot you are very well when you talk about "racially,religionly,culturally"...It shows who you are actually.

[Omaha]

There is more hoarse **** in this thread than 10 stables.

There is a reason that 80% of the posts here are nothing but USSR's lies and dumbass statements, and Pytheus's bias and blatant disrespect to anything Turkish.

My God, can you people grow the hell up?

[U-S-S-R]

There is more hoarse **** in this thread than 10 stables.

There is a reason that 80% of the posts here are nothing but USSR's lies and dumbass statements, and Pytheus's bias and blatant disrespect to anything Turkish.

My God, can you people grow the hell up?

Stay in omaha if you don't know **** about Europe. Turks posting pic's of wolves is like nazi's posting pic's of the swastika. Guess who started flaming.


Those women you are making fun of, is someone else's mother.

Ah yes, just like the 'russian slut' Scyt made fun of is someone elses daughter or sister. Look at your own people first.

[Beykoz]

Stay in omaha if you don't know **** about Europe. Turks posting pic's of wolves is like nazi's posting pic's of the swastika. Guess who started flaming.
Get a clue you internet educated parasite !

The pic of the wolf was originally posted by Greek Soldier, not by us.
Although it can be a symbol of nationalist party MHP, (since early 60s) it's has been representing the Turkish people for hundreds of years and there is a legendary story behind it.
Americans have their eagle and we have our wolf, only, it goes back a lot further.
Every wolf you see does not represent a fascist.




Ah yes, just like the 'russian slut' Scyt made fun of is someone elses daughter or sister. Look at your own people first. Slut refers to a promiscuous woman.
Scyth didn't refer to every Russian women as sluts.
If Scyth decides to pick one up and the woman is willing, what is the problem...?
If he wants he can pick a Turkish slut tomorrow.
If you can leave your keyboard for a few hours, you can have a go at some Dutch sluts too. Give it a go, you may like it !!!

[Omaha]

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Ah yes, just like the 'russian slut' Scyt made fun of is someone elses daughter or sister. Look at your own people first.


Coming from a guy that obviously has a hard on for a country made famous for it's mail order brides...

[Moghi]

U-S-S-R makes a very good point here as seen with the so-called US sponsored three revolutions – the "rose revolution" in Georgia (November 2003-January 2004), the "orange revolution" in Ukraine (January 2005) and the "tulip revolution" in Kyrgyzstan (April 2005) – each followed a near-identical trajectory; all were spearheaded by the American democratisation NGO's, George Soros and his pan-Turkist/pan-Turanian buttbuddies working at the behest of the US foreign policy establishment.

Firstly, allow me to clarify the words of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the liberal hawk who influences the Democratic party’s foreign policy regarding the so-called "Orange revolution":

"Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire... if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources, as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state."


As you can see, this is undoubtfully the first step in gaining a geostrategic stronghold in CA in order to simplify access to Caspian oil and Turkmen gas throughout Georgia, and later on a puppet-installed Iran or a balkanized Iran, stretching from Khorasan, to Mazderan and Gilan, to Southern-Azerbaijan and Eastern-Kurdistan to Turkey with the intent to successfully destroy Iran, Armenia and Russia in the meantime.





Long live tin-foil hats!

[Drunkensquid]

Coming from a guy that obviously has a hard on for a country made famous for it's mail order brides...


That's funny, and they keep on coming and coming......

[Chris]

Coming from a guy that obviously has a hard on for a country made famous for it's mail order brides...

at least there are no mail order spam brides

*doorrings* hi Mr. Chris@yahoo.com do you want to marry me?

[Beykoz]

U-S-S-R makes a very good point here as seen with the so-called US sponsored three revolutions – the "rose revolution" in Georgia (November 2003-January 2004), the "orange revolution" in Ukraine (January 2005) and the "tulip revolution" in Kyrgyzstan (April 2005) – each followed a near-identical trajectory; all were spearheaded by the American democratisation NGO's, George Soros and his pan-Turkist/pan-Turanian buttbuddies working at the behest of the US foreign policy establishment.

Firstly, allow me to clarify the words of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the liberal hawk who influences the Democratic party’s foreign policy regarding the so-called "Orange revolution":
"Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire... if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources, as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state."


As you can see, this is undoubtfully the first step in gaining a geostrategic stronghold in CA in order to simplify access to Caspian oil and Turkmen gas throughout Georgia, and later on a puppet-installed Iran or a balkanized Iran, stretching from Khorasan, to Mazderan and Gilan, to Southern-Azerbaijan and Eastern-Kurdistan to Turkey with the intent to successfully destroy Iran, Armenia and Russia in the meantime.





Long live tin-foil hats!
Yeah mate, i see you read Sreeram Chaulia's essay.
Nice creative addition of, "George Soros and his pan-Turkist/pan-Turanian buttbuddies", there.

I will contradict myself and admit that USSR had some fair input here, however, his usual diatribe (here and elsewhere) took all the attention of it.

The word "Turan" rings alarm bells in amongst some members, as they see it as one big nation in common borders. This may have been the case for some ultra-nationalist movements in the past, but the term really relates to peace and harmony in the region. Turkey hasn't got the interest nor the means to extend its borders and is quite content with its current status, as set out by Lausanne Treaty.

With that out of the way, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that, Turkey will have good relations and partnerships with Turkic countries in Central Asia. One of the promising ventures may well be the oil & gas pipelines through Turkey. This has nothing to do with tin-foil-hats mate. :)

The other thing i don't agree with, which seems to be another personal input, is the manner you finished it. Why do we intend to destroy other nations...? Our only intention is to get a piece of the pie.

[Scyth]

Beykoz, I admire your diligence. But I seriously doubt that USSR and Clitho (and that other racist pig) deserve your efforts and your attention. Ignore them. This forum has gone way South, not worth it.