One Night in a Rain Soaked Forest..E&E

[TacoDelRio]

EAST SCOUT: Thanks for the compliments on the pics. I try my best to get a good perspective on the photos, and hope to become somewhat professional in this area in the future. The SORD panel is MOLLE compatible. You could rig it to fit other shtuff, but eh.... might be a bitch in the end. I wore it while hunting yesterday, and it's comfy. I was in the desert, 108 degrees outside, nice! I don't like chest rigs much in the mountains because wearing a heavy ruck while climbing makes me breath using my stomach, and the end of a chest rig always ends up hitting me there, bothers the sh*t out of me. Either way, it's a good rig, as long as you don't load it heavy on mountainous things.

DURANDAL: This section of the mountains is clear of lower brush only because it gets 60-70mph winds on bad days. The western section of the mountains has tons of scrub that grows about 12ft high at the highest, and takes hours to move through. Took me about 6 hours to move a mile in one case with only about 3,000ft elevation gain and 4,000ft loss.

I'll post more when I get home from work. Also have a few pics of shooting using it from yesterday. It's a good rig (SORD MFF with Commander).

[TacoDelRio]

As you may know, we get LOTS of fires here in Southern Kommiefornia. It helps clear out some of the scrub and lower growing trees.

Or in some cases, it just turns the whole damn place into a graveyard:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02012.jpg

There wasn't much brush in the other photos because above about 6,800ft, the scrub doesn't seem to be as common.

Above the treeline at around 9,800ft:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC01028.jpg

Here's a photo showing the scrub on the eastern section of the range:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC01582.jpg
Grows to about 12ft tall, usually less. Takes forever to cut through, and a long time to walk around, which usually means climbing up sections of crumbling rock that the plants can't grow on.

[RGRBOX]

Very nice Taco... I like!!

[TacoDelRio]

I don't see a taco.... ;)

More to come after ES's large ALICE arrives!
I hope the tent works out for you bro!

[East Scout II]

Ill like it man..Im sure..So long as you didnt leave me any dry crusty body fluids in it!;-) I been wanting one for a long long time..Looking forward to the canteen covers too.....DPM! UPS lady said NLT Monday and youll have it..

Oh the ALICE has a spray of dark Forest Green OD..You cant even really see it against the original ruck color..Just toss it in the washing mashine and it will seperate from the nylon and look like new...all buckles and snaps are in tact and funtional..Infact I never used the thing ever..

ES

[East Scout II]

I love these rvcks.I have two..One med and a large..

DPM!

ES

[TacoDelRio]

It'll get some spraypaint on it.

Your tent has the minimum amount of "crusty bodily fliuds" on it. Hahahah!!! Maybe some fuel or oil or some crap or CLP.

[East Scout II]

If you have any problems w/ it my customer service is number if FUK YOU..Jk Bro..Let me know if you have issues..I looked'er over and she was G2G...Im glad you didnt want the frame cause I didnt have a box that big..

ES

[East Scout II]

If I have the chance tomorrow I'll try to post some pics of some of my kit..

Rvck pics coming sometime soon?

ES

[TacoDelRio]

Dude East Scout, I busted one of the seams on the top of the ruck you sent me with a 6gl water can. Bwahahah! Time to get some stronger thread.... that seam always busts on ALICE packs.

Thanks for the sh*t man!

[East Scout II]

Dude East Scout, I busted one of the seams on the top of the ruck you sent me with a 6gl water can. Bwahahah! Time to get some stronger thread.... that seam always busts on ALICE packs.

Thanks for the sh*t man!

You're kidding me!?! ALICE KILLA! You need a cargo rack on that frame not a ruck sack!..LOL

Well at least you can get some use from the other gear I sent..

ES

[TacoDelRio]

Did some shelter building crap today.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02643.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02644.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02663.jpg
Rocks used for shelters up here. Elevation is 10,000ft with winds ranging from 30mph on a good day, to 70mph on a better day.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02662.jpg
Some junk I brought with me.

Local scenery:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02634.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02653.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02680.jpg

Thanks, East Scout, for the new ruck and poncho. They're getting some use. I already tore out the top seams on the ruck from carrying a bit too much weight. Probably going to upgrade to a MALICE pack from Tactical Tailor.

How's the tent working out?

I might go up the same mountain to take photos in respect of the USMC Pilots who died in the mid 1940's. A small formation of Grumman Hellcats crashed into the side of the mountain during poor conditions. A C119 transport crashed in the area as well, and a P-38 Lightning about 12 miles to the west. Might check the C119 out.

[Hollis]

TacoDelRey, Thanks for the photo, looks like another beautiful area.

H.

[TacoDelRio]

Thanks Mr H. It's nice up there. Can't wait for winter. Last year was lame.

[East Scout II]

Dude those pick are fabulous! Keep em coming brother!

Too bad you couldnt stop by when you were on the right side of the country,...Would have made a great meet up to shoot the scheisse or and get out in the swamps! Maybe next time eh?

No i havnt used the tent yet..Busted up my jeep so Ill be doing Kayak trips for the next few weeks and it will get used...Or i was thinking about using the DPM fabric for some sewing projects..;-)

GLAD you like the ruck and poncho..Hope the canteen gear helped you out too..Nothing better than helping friends further the cause of getting out in the wild!

ES

[East Scout II]

ALSO: Pretty interesting see a piece of kit I had in my war room now being used in the Desert of the Far West...

ES

[wamp]

Just stumbled onto this thread and after reading for the last hour, it has to be one of my favorite threads I have read in mp.net. Just wanted to say thanks to the guys who post all the pics and info. Will have to get some guys together and take some pics of a couple days in the middle of nowhere Texas.

[East Scout II]

Just stumbled onto this thread and after reading for the last hour, it has to be one of my favorite threads I have read in mp.net. Just wanted to say thanks to the guys who post all the pics and info. Will have to get some guys together and take some pics of a couple days in the middle of nowhere Texas.

Glad you enjoyed it...Its lasted longer than I ever thought it would..Longer than my survival group lasted after 4 years of thier BS..But I owe that to the contributers that made this thread what its is..

ES

[James]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02643.jpg


That looks like a Taliban shelter.

[Hollis]

Just stumbled onto this thread and after reading for the last hour, it has to be one of my favorite threads I have read in mp.net. Just wanted to say thanks to the guys who post all the pics and info. Will have to get some guys together and take some pics of a couple days in the middle of nowhere Texas.


Wamp, No kidding, this has been probably my favorite post, really enjoyed the photos, I need to scan some and share. Winter camping at Creater Lake. On top of Mt Rainier, and some other places. ES, is correct the contributors have added to this enjoyable experience. It is one of the best example of the positive contributions the Internet has to offer, IMHO.

[East Scout II]

And not one fuking pissing contest in 521 posts!

ES

[wamp]

And not one fuking pissing contest in 521 posts!

ES

Ya I noticed not a single flame/troll/etc. My roommate started looking at the thread with me, and he is a big hunter/camper/fishermen from Alaska so all the stories got started. We are now looking online for some gear online and are trying to work out a camping trip involving some hunting since the season is coming up fast. Thanks again guys for renewing my intrest in an old hobby.

We just got a Cabelas store built down the road but there stuff is pretty pricey. Any other good recommendations?

Anyone done any E&E in Texas?

[East Scout II]

Here are some pics of my new TA here in Kent County.(named directly after Englands Kent County)...Its called open land AKA Public land else where. Means I can do what I want on it besides bring weapons..Something new Maryland is doing w/ spare land...The area was onced owned by the Rev War Captain of the Kent County Militia ..His name was Donald Yeates..It 1000 acres of VERY old growth forest and lots of old buildings including barns and some houses......Tested out my new BHI raptor ruck up there......It had huge hills and 80ft hight cliffs on the shore line..and a really big bamboo forest is located down by water..Tones of things to do...

I busted up my jeep there the other day so when I get it outta the shop Ill be heading back up to get some gear muddy and finish some survioval skill and tasks I have planned..So not much in the way of gear to talk about w/ this post..When I get squared away Ill be doing some more E&E drills and have more krapp to talk about..Ill be out on the kayak for now..

ES

[East Scout II]

Ya I noticed not a single flame/troll/etc. My roommate started looking at the thread with me, and he is a big hunter/camper/fishermen from Alaska so all the stories got started. We are now looking online for some gear online and are trying to work out a camping trip involving some hunting since the season is coming up fast. Thanks again guys for renewing my intrest in an old hobby.

We just got a Cabelas store built down the road but there stuff is pretty pricey. Any other good recommendations?

Anyone done any E&E in Texas?

I have no opinion on Cabelas but its is pricey..If its anything like Gander Mountain they carry a lot of cheap Chi com made junk...

IMHO Blackhawk makes great gear.......Im a die hard fan and its just about all i use now.

ES

[TacoDelRio]

That looks like a Taliban shelter.

Hahahahah I hope that's a good thing! The environment here is supposed to be very close to Afghanistan.

ES: Thanks bro. Good pictures! Bamboo? We've got some in our creeks. Our creeks are friggin' nothing compared to your stuff out east.

Some more pics:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02690.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC01940.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC01938.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/BaldyPeakSnow.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/TreeMoon.jpg

My legs hurt.

[East Scout II]

You are just fuking gay........Thats it Im making a trip out there and we are gonna go out there so I can see that stuff for myself! I think some of our mountain ranges would look like that too if the trees were gone.LOL

On the shelter subject: Ive never seen a shelter used by the Taliban that was constructed w/ a US issue poncho or wasnt made from mud..I think he just wanted something to say and that all he could contribute..Looked fine yto me...And sorry about what I said at the HQ group..Wasnt trying to be a ****..Just help out..


Thanks..The pics werent much but I hope you noticed the round thing to the left opf my foot in the one picture was a tire and rim at the bottom of a clif..That was only about 40 foot high..stoill tallk anough to do a ruppel off of..

ES

[East Scout II]

This is me today..I went for a Kayak scout trip since the jeep is still busted...I was in an endless endless endless endless swamp of reed grass that seemed to go on for a mile or so..Glad I took my Tomahawk to cut through the parts that had thorn bushes intertwind..The look on my face is genuine..I was right perplexed if not down right beat to death from it...If you can imagine walking through a crowded room and everyone you pass trying to grab you to stop you that is what it was like walking through it (reed grass and mud) w/ my gear on (BHI SAW Rig and BHI # Day Ruck) carrying my dummy M16A2......on top of that it was about 6 inches of mud that was the deer trail...On the bright side i found a few new routes through the woods across the creek...I found a nice antler shed thats now hanging in the war room...I used my new Hydastorm water bladder,,EAST SCOUT LOVES IT!

have used a bladder before but it was El Cheep'o..This one I got w/ my BHI RAPTOR ruck kicks ass! I was hard headed old school canteen slurper but now I apprieciate having the bladder in my ruck..Much easier and saves time..


Anyhow Ide have to say that was thge toughest terrain I have had to go through in a long long time..I think humping up a mountain in PA is easier that fighting that stuff..Hoefuly Ill be doinfg an overnighter there this weekend!

IES

[percell_086]

Nice pics mate, you changed over to US woodland?

So how is the BHI ruck holding up? Any chance that when I visit the states I can go on a E and E trip with you?

[East Scout II]

Nice pics mate, you changed over to US woodland?

So how is the BHI ruck holding up? Any chance that when I visit the states I can go on a E and E trip with you?

I love my DPM but they arnt as armored against thorns/stickers as US BDUs so I opted to wear the woodland today..the woodland is MUCH warmer (and i felt ever fuking degree of heat) and takes about 3 times as long to dry but the DPM cant hold a candle to armor factor and durability..

The RAPTOR Ruck is great but I havnt given it its proper run through yet..I have gone on some long hikes w/ it and did some low crawling under lucust/thorn trees w/ it but I havnt really run her in yet or given her the course..I imagine it will do fine....I took the BHI 3 Day ruck today...Love that thing.

Sure if you wanna go out its no problem..I had a buddy I met on the net from Austria come over before..We turned out to be great pals..Then I went back there and we did the E&E thing in the mountains around Salzburg..

Ryan has his sites set on getting over here too as does Taco in CA...Be great of we could all coordinate a huge get 2 gether..

ES

[RGRBOX]

East Scout.. great pics.. you did all that camo work, and forgot your hands... too bad.. your dead.. better yet.. soldier you are a no go on the EIB camo test...

[East Scout II]

I did my hands about 10 times...kept sweating off or being rubbed by my sleaves that were rolled down...asshole;-)

ES

[RGRBOX]

I did my hands about 10 times...kept sweating off or being rubbed by my sleaves that were rolled down...asshole;-)

ES

Sure.. I'm the asshole because you failed to get your EIB.. and I got mine within my first three months at my first duty station..

Fvcking looser..
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

You should get yourself some gloves.. maybe some OD Pilots gloves.. what size are your hands cherry???

[East Scout II]

here are 2 pics of the typical trails i followed..no higher than a deer nor any wider than a deer...total PITA. The drag from the reeds was crazy on my ass..But it was a good work out.

ES

[East Scout II]

You should get yourself some gloves.. maybe some OD Pilots gloves.. what size are your hands cherry???


I have some cut off inserts i use since i lost my OD/BLK nomex to some lowly member of the survival group I had..Probably same asshole that stole my passport and other docs..anyhow I didnt wear em ..to hot..

My **** beaters are a serious small..Like girls small...

ES

[East Scout II]

Sure.. I'm the asshole because you failed to get your EIB.. and I got mine within my first three months at my first duty station..

Fvcking looser..
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

You should get yourself some gloves.. maybe some OD Pilots gloves.. what size are your hands cherry???

Look at my profile picture..I think youll be pleased to look at that camo instead of mine..;-)

ES

[RGRBOX]

Look at my profile picture..I think youll be pleased to look at that camo instead of mine..;-)

ES

wow.. very nice camo job.. and she has a great pair of feet...

[East Scout II]

wow.. very nice camo job.. and she has a great pair of feet...


Yeah she does.......My wife looks great in just about anything. BTW I gave her that kiss for your tacos..

ES

[RGRBOX]

Yeah she does.......My wife looks great in just about anything. BTW I gave her that kiss for your tacos..

ES


that's a pic of your wife???

dude I could find the time to go out to the swamp if I had that at the house..

Although mine is great.. but hell.. I'm just thinking out of my ass today..:cantbeli:

[TacoDelRio]

East Scout, I am offended.


Nice pictures. Friggin' swamps. If you put wheels and a gas powered motor on that kayak and drove it out of the water, I'd give you a dollar.

[East Scout II]

For all you great people that have been following this thread. You have inspired me:

http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=escape292

Join up..........PLEASE

ES

[Durandal]

Might have to do just that.

Not to compete or anything, but the AR15.com general forum has a great Survival area. Lots of GREAT contributers, especially in the home prep area.

[East Scout II]

No worries mate..Thanks..We'd be glad to have ya.......Spread the word there about the new forum..We focus mainly on on the move survival..Lost of places talk about homesteading..Its just as important IMO

ES

[East Scout II]

Anyone been out doing anything? My jeep has been busted..I been stuck home..To fuking hot to go out on the kayak lately..

ES

[Redguy]

I've got a question, Me and a couple of guys will be going camping/hiking in october. What sort of water purifier/tablets would work best? It'll probably be around 7-10 guys, so alot of water is needed. (I've googled it, but i would like afew other peoples advice.) Also are there other supplies that would be a good idea to bring with such a large group.

[East Scout II]

I've got a question, Me and a couple of guys will be going camping/hiking in october. What sort of water purifier/tablets would work best? It'll probably be around 7-10 guys, so alot of water is needed. (I've googled it, but i would like afew other peoples advice.) Also are there other supplies that would be a good idea to bring with such a large group.


You can get the simple Iodine water pure tabs at Walmart. They come w/ the "De-**** taster Tab" that gets rid of the iodine taste...Its comes in a pack of two bottles..One bottle for each tab. Follow the direction on the back. I thinks it one of each tab per quart but dont quote me. Ist late and Im beat..Read the directions.

You might want to get everyone individual canteen so everyone isnt sucking from the same source. Or at least split it up as best you can..If one man has a bug it will fuk up your trip if everyone catches it...

If you wanna go high-tec and get a pump filter system someone else will have to help you there. I dont use those.

Just be sure and take care where you take water from. If you have a hikers map it should tell you where safe water sources are but id even use pure tabs on those.

Hope this helps

ES

[Redguy]

Thanks alot ES.

[East Scout II]

No problem pal..Im absolutely glad to help..Have a great time and send post some pic..
If you dont mind, where about will you be going?

ES

[Redguy]

I think we'll be headed off around the Uwharrie National Forest area in NC... We still have to plan some more, but I'm pretty sure we'll be going there. i'll take some pictures and post them when we go. I wanted it to be more survival then camping, but the guys im going with arn't as cool as mep-).

[USMC Tanker]

East Scout,

I've been able to give my new ILBE a field test. It held up pretty well, decent in comfort. Lots of excess straps, but I solved that problem with a lot of electrical tape.

I know there are side zippers for access to gear on the bottom of the pack or in the middle, but with everything in Willie Pete bags anyways, it still proved a pain and I found myself starting from the top and working my way down.

Honestly...it's a nice pack, but I miss my MOLLE II and it's modular-ness!

[TacoDelRio]

Anyone been out doing anything? My jeep has been busted..I been stuck home..To fuking hot to go out on the kayak lately..

ES

Went and did a patrol kinda relaxed movement a few days ago. Going for a short 2-day training deal this weekend that's supposed to be real relaxed as well. Have people who want to plan a larger 2-3 day "trek" without support so you can actually go somewhere.

Signed up on the new site. This style of forum beats the hell out of Yahoo. I actually want to reply for once! :bash:

[Limeyfellow]

I've got a question, Me and a couple of guys will be going camping/hiking in october. What sort of water purifier/tablets would work best? It'll probably be around 7-10 guys, so alot of water is needed. (I've googled it, but i would like afew other peoples advice.) Also are there other supplies that would be a good idea to bring with such a large group.

If you going to be out there for a while it might be worth investing in a portable water filter. There are some really good ones on the market that weigh a pound or just a little bit more like the katadyn pocket purifier or a doulton portable gravity filter. You can usually find them for about $200-250 which isn't alot between that many people, but provide more than enough water for everyone.

[RGRBOX]

I've got a question, Me and a couple of guys will be going camping/hiking in october. What sort of water purifier/tablets would work best? It'll probably be around 7-10 guys, so alot of water is needed. (I've googled it, but i would like afew other peoples advice.) Also are there other supplies that would be a good idea to bring with such a large group.

I use a water filter made by Katadyn. The Mini Filter would work, but the Pocket would be better for your large group. Katadyn also make water purification tablets, which work well. I try to avode Iodine , but if the water is really dirty, first filter the dirt out of it.. pass it thru a cheese cloth, towel, or better yet get yourself a Millbank Bag to filter the water thru, then boil the water.. if the water is from an unclean area, (Example from a third world country) you can add Iodine to it.. Iodine does leave a bad taste.. but you could get used to it..

[Redguy]

If you going to be out there for a while it might be worth investing in a portable water filter. There are some really good ones on the market that weigh a pound or just a little bit more like the katadyn pocket purifier or a doulton portable gravity filter. You can usually find them for about $200-250 which isn't alot between that many people, but provide more than enough water for everyone.

It'll only be for a few days. Thanks for all your replies

[RGRBOX]

It'll only be for a few days. Thanks for all your replies


If it's only a couple of days.. and you guys are driving.. carry water with you..

[East Scout II]

I've got a question, Me and a couple of guys will be going camping/hiking in october. What sort of water purifier/tablets would work best? It'll probably be around 7-10 guys, so alot of water is needed. (I've googled it, but i would like afew other peoples advice.) Also are there other supplies that would be a good idea to bring with such a large group.


Are you still going on that trip??

ES

[Redguy]

Are you still going on that trip??

ES

Yep, next week i do believe. Looking forward to it.

[East Scout II]

Great post some pictures if you can..

ES

[Remington Rand]

So this wasn't a military exercise?

Where were you dong this at... and why would you be worried about game wardens....?
Thanks for asking...so everyone else doesnt have to. I am interested in the story, but I am not sure if this is military training, Airsoft, poaching, hunting, or just sneaking around in the woods.

[East Scout II]

Thanks for asking...so everyone else doesnt have to. I am interested in the story, but I am not sure if this is military training, Airsoft, poaching, hunting, or just sneaking around in the woods.

Congrads on quoting a question that was already asked and answered on the first page 8 months ago. If you werent so lazy and ready to run your suck and you would of bothered to look at the other 500 and some posts in this thread you would have had your idiot question answered....Pouching? Hunting? Airsoft..LOL..You smell like TROLL.........Either have a look for yourself or go find another thread to pop a squat in .......

In the infinity of all your 24 posts you've put on this board you obviously havnt payed much attention to anything ............

Pouching? LOL.....I hope you get banned or suspended......

ES

[East Scout II]

Damn, you're even dumber than I thought..The answer was right under the post you quoted but you were to busy wanting to post troll bait to even look.....

Lemme guess you're 15 years old?

ES

[TacoDelRio]

Slow down ES, let him respond.

Don't make me come over there and break my foot off in your ass!

[TacoDelRio]

Nevermind, I read a bit more. I'm so accepting. (Read: I'm a nice-guy-dumbass)

This has nothing to do with poaching. Those of us who conduct these forms of activities are very close to the Earth. We take care of nature, and it takes care of us. We treat the Earth with respect. We are hunters, soldiers, ex soldiers, whatever spurred our original interest in this.


I am interested in the story, but I am not sure if this is military training, Airsoft, poaching, hunting, or just sneaking around in the woods.

Training: Yes, it all is in a way.
Airsoft: Despite the general consensus by morons that airsoft is pointless, some of us use airsoft for training alongside firearms, where appropriate and applicable. Overall, no, this is not for or during what most people know of as "airsoft".
Hunting: No.
Sneaking around: No malicious intent. One does not need to "sneak around" in their own country unless they're doing something wrong, illegal, or they simply do not belong there whatsoever.


Why? Because we like to.

[RGRBOX]

Boy, you two are something else...p-)

Why would you want to put your foot up his ass.. go way to get your boots dirty..

RB

[East Scout II]

knuckle head..............

[RGRBOX]

I was thinking the same about you.. quit reading my mind..

You ask my kigs, that's my word.. that and calling things that are not good, ugly..

RB

[East Scout II]

No he was a knuckle head. But since you were thinking I was one, you can have it........

ES

[RGRBOX]

I was talking about you calling me one..

rb

[Remington Rand]

Congrads on quoting a question that was already asked and answered on the first page 8 months ago. If you werent so lazy and ready to run your suck and you would of bothered to look at the other 500 and some posts in this thread you would have had your idiot question answered....Pouching? Hunting? Airsoft..LOL..You smell like TROLL.........Either have a look for yourself or go find another thread to pop a squat in .......

In the infinity of all your 24 posts you've put on this board you obviously havnt payed much attention to anything ............

Pouching? LOL.....I hope you get banned or suspended......

ES

Wow. You are sure friendly to new posters. Obviously I didnt see that. Maybe you could have answered with "we already answered that one" or something like that. Forgive me for asking a question that was already answered.

[Remington Rand]

PS- what is TROLL? I apologize in advance if this question has been asked before sometime in the history of the world.

[TacoDelRio]

PS- what is TROLL? I apologize in advance if this question has been asked before sometime in the history of the world.

Troll, either meant as a short stubby dirty character who dwells under a bridge, or troll as in "trolling", like someone trolling for bad responses/flaming and stuff. Like fishing.

[Col. Psycho]

Wow. You are sure friendly to new posters. Obviously I didnt see that. Maybe you could have answered with "we already answered that one" or something like that. Forgive me for asking a question that was already answered.


yeah it seems to be a general consensus around here, ive noticed alot of pretentious characters around MP.net boards. its annoying and makes me not want to be apart of these boards at times. :(

im also noticing a few people around here have little to say about alot. or alot to say about a little, either way.

on the subject of camping advice: whats the best firemakers out there to use, in survival situations? i had a swedish firesteel for emergency purposes but i think it got knicked or lost or something. it rocked, and i'll probably buy a new one. but i was wondering if there was anything else out there to look for. :o

[Remington Rand]

I am neither short and stubby nor trying to seek out negative responses/make enemies. Lets move on. Hopefully no one was too offended by one (admittedly) dumb question. ES seems to have a bit of a temper. Thanks for defining Troll for me. RR

[TacoDelRio]

No problem dude. Folks just get a bitmore into it when they hear of poaching, as we're anti-poaching.

[East Scout II]

I am neither short and stubby nor trying to seek out negative responses/make enemies. Lets move on. Hopefully no one was too offended by one (admittedly) dumb question. ES seems to have a bit of a temper. Thanks for defining Troll for me. RR

No I dont have a temper I just tell it strait and w/ no sugar added..If you took it as anger than I achieved my goal....I get sick of little kids coming in the board running thier face.......Hang around long enough and youll understand what I mean and say to yourself "wow that asshole was right"..

ES

[Remington Rand]

No problem dude. Folks just get a bitmore into it when they hear of poaching, as we're anti-poaching.

I am a hunter, and anti-poacher myself. It was the game warden reference that threw me. Anyway, enough of this and dont want to waste any more of this thread.

[East Scout II]

on the subject of camping advice: whats the best firemakers out there to use, in survival situations?

Skills in your head....and if your still breathing you can get a fire started.......

Get going w/ a bow and drill........And work your way up frokm there.

ES

[Limeyfellow]

Making a fire with the stuff you can find is a really nice skill to have and saved me a few times being able to make a nice fire. I also like the magnesium firestarter blocks with inbuilt flint. That gets things going pretty easily.

[East Scout II]

we have mad info on primitive survival skills at the other forum..link is on my profile..Its just to much to get into over and over..sorry..Youll find all you need there....

Sorry for the attitude..

ES

[lasershothungary]

Hi we are hungarian survivalist group.
We want to make international contacts.
But unfortunately my grammar skills are not to god but we have tons of pictures.
Regards

Adam

[kayaker]

Hello mate!

The main participants of this thread have put up their won survival forum so as not to get the equipment section too bungled up... youre more than welcome there:

http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=escape292&sid=f626c658fdd42290860896d30803573d

Just fill in the guest book, as for your english dont worry! We got a few foreigners on the site.. and its not called international for nothing!

Thanks for the photos pal. Also check out the belt kit thread int he equipment section.

[East Scout II]

X2.,...come on over mate!..And bring your pictures!!!

[kayaker]

X2.,...come on over mate!..And bring your pictures!!!

Indeed, youre goin to love what you see there... ammit all the jokes tonns of good info, picutres and stories of experiences there...

[Weasel]

Is everyone welcome there? Even a weasel? :|

[kayaker]

sorry mate, no germans :-|

[kayaker]

Course your welcome! Apologies I didnt invite you sooner....

[RGRBOX]

Is everyone welcome there? Even a weasel? :|

Weasel, If your really interested and serious then go for it.. We are always looking for new people who want to learn and share.

RB

[Weasel]

sorry mate, no germans :-|

Racist! http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/traurig/c010.gif

[East Scout II]

We are few but we are quality..We had almost 300 members but i removed many for either abandoned accounts or just not helping out..A lot of members go through a lot of time on the net and in the field to aquire info for the groups members to use..I dont allow free rides if a person dosnt wanna take part.. Only dedicated member need apply..You seem dedicated so Im sure you'll enjoy what we have to offer...

[Weasel]

Weasel, If your really interested and serious then go for it.. We are always looking for new people who want to learn and share.

RB

Why shouldn´t I be serious? I will register tomorrow. woot

[RGRBOX]

Why shouldn´t I be serious? I will register tomorrow. woot


Good news.. I look forward to seeing you over there.

RB

[Weasel]

We are few but we are quality..We had almost 300 members but i removed many for either abandoned accounts or just not helping out..A lot of members go through a lot of time on the net and in the field to aquire info for the groups members to use..I dont allow free rides if a person dosnt wanna take part.. Only dedicated member need apply..You seem dedicated so Im sure you'll enjoy what we have to offer...

See you tomorrow!

Thanks also to RGRBOX and ryan woods.

[RGRBOX]

ryan who???

[kayaker]

ryan who???


Im not goin to spank you again RB... rofl

[kayaker]

Racist! http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/traurig/c010.gif


Course your welcome! Apologies I didnt invite you sooner....

213546798879465132

[Weasel]

I see, you two are in love. p-)

[kayaker]

lol, he seems to think so... ;)

[East Scout II]

They are...Gear Queers...

[Weasel]

They are...Gear Queers...

I will reconsider if I really wanne join your forum. I am sceptical now. http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif

[kayaker]

rofl!


231468987

[lasershothungary]

Hello mate!

The main participants of this thread have put up their won survival forum so as not to get the equipment section too bungled up... youre more than welcome there:

http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=escape292&sid=f626c658fdd42290860896d30803573d

Just fill in the guest book, as for your english dont worry! We got a few foreigners on the site.. and its not called international for nothing!

Thanks for the photos pal. Also check out the belt kit thread int he equipment section.
A made some pictures from my belt kit but i dont find my usb cabel. But i will post some pictures there to

[kayaker]

that be grand cheers pal.

[MoFo]

Fantastic thread guys, After reading through everypage its been a real eye opener for me. Ive been on a number of outings spending time with the Royal Marines, ex legionnaires and engineers on Night Exs and camps etc and I always found myself in the biggest muddle.

It so happens I can be the most unorganised guy I know and when it comes to packing my bergen, my kit use, and storage I always made a real **** of things and found myself bugging out and regrouping only to realise half my stuff is missing.

After reading through what you guys had to say on, well EVERYTHING I can take note and next time Enjoy my happy camper experience, cheers!

[kayaker]

what work do you do as an 18 yr old workin with the RMC and FFL?

Isnt that a pic of Chris Ryan in your avator?

[MoFo]

Ey from the "Last one left" or something like that. Maybe Sean Penn?

I just finished a 2year public service course with college ran by our tutors who luckily were all ex-military types. So we had plenty of trips and services willing to take and teach us young grasshoppers p-)

[East Scout II]

I miss posting drills and gear reviews in this thread, but it was getting to big and i like orginization..So I made the new forum..Working great and I have some top lads running it we/ me...

Been a job keeping out the Militia fuks and tin foil crowd..But its going well..Everyone is welcome that can follow the simple guidlines we set forth..

Gear and AARs are our biggest topics next to horsing around at the fireside section..

If you like this thread youd love the Survival HQ International..

[kayaker]

Working great and I have some top lads running it we/ me...


Muinto obrigado Senoir...!

ref CR...the book was: The one who got away... not a bad choice as avator.

[lasershothungary]

My bigger first aid kit. Used in a humanitarian mission.

[kayaker]

YOU JUST GOT me embarrest...! That is truly a beautiful setup, very sound gear. However have you used the new infrared temperature meters yet? I had a 2 min lesson on them... all you need to know you know then... so easy to use... Nice Petz, need to get one myself.. suprised its red light though - with the issue of blood.

May I ask what profesion your in?

EDIT: you got a pic of it packed, is the strecher part of teh bag?

[lasershothungary]

YOU JUST GOT me embarrest...! That is truly a beautiful setup, very sound gear. However have you used the new infrared temperature meters yet? I had a 2 min lesson on them... all you need to know you know then... so easy to use... Nice Petz, need to get one myself.. suprised its red light though - with the issue of blood.

May I ask what profesion your in?

EDIT: you got a pic of it packed, is the strecher part of teh bag?

I had many profesions but now im an industrial alpinist . I build confidance courses. And owner of a lasershot training system.

I dont use often the strecher its to heavy. I prefer my poncho in emernency cases.

[TacoDelRio]

THE THREAD LIVES!!!!!!!

Sweet....

Come on over, Weasel and Lasershot!

[TacoDelRio]

I had many profesions but now im an industrial alpinist . I build confidance courses. And owner of a lasershot training system.

Alpinist, as in, mountains? If so, you're my new friend.:hug:

[kayaker]

you're my new friend.:hug:

Taco, dont scare him just yet..please! ;) He seems like a keeper :D

[RGRBOX]

too kool.

RB

[kayaker]

I had many profesions but now im an industrial alpinist . I build confidance courses. And owner of a lasershot training system.

I dont use often the strecher its to heavy. I prefer my poncho in emernency cases.


great pics! Do you have a medical background - as you used you FAK - first aid kit- durin trips...

is the strecher part of teh green bag?

[lasershothungary]

I did advenced first aid courses i dont know the name in english but like EMT.
The green bag IS the strecher.

[kayaker]

I thought so, thanks!

I understand about the EMT.

[RGRBOX]

Lasershothungary.. you need to visit East Scout's member info , and visit us at the other forum.

RB

[lasershothungary]

Alpinist, as in, mountains? If so, you're my new friend.:hug:

As in mountains but i work with ropes and montenering stuff to build things.
But i like to hike in the mountins. My partner is an alpinist i mostly just secure him in the big wals.

[TacoDelRio]

As in mountains but i work with ropes and montenering stuff to build things.
But i like to hike in the mountins. My partner is an alpinist i mostly just secure him in the big wals.

In that case, double welcome aboard!

[lasershothungary]

Changing tire without jack.

[TacoDelRio]

Hahah that's great. WOuld suck if it was just you two guys... someone's gotta book it and switch the tire REAL fast!

[kayaker]

rofl!

I just think its a good excuse to play monkey's... ES would love this!

On a serious note, great pic mate, thanks for sharing. Also good to see you take persec seriously.

[TacoDelRio]

I gotta say, that's using yer head. And a buddy. Good stuff.

[lasershothungary]

Hahah that's great. WOuld suck if it was just you two guys... someone's gotta book it and switch the tire REAL fast!

You can tie a weight the end of the tree.

You know better solutions?
I have some but i will post them later.

[TacoDelRio]

Haha I'm just giving you a hard time, Lasershot!

[lasershothungary]

The last for today.

[ArmchairLiberal]

I forgot, I just got this rifle. Its a Spring-Field M6 Scout Survival Rifle in Stanless Steel.(Made in the Czech Republic).Its an over under .410/.22...It also holds extar round in a flip open compartment in the stock..Great rifle! It disassembles into two even parts and Ill be storing it in my Bergan when ever i can.

Hey everybody, this is way back from page 2.

The M6 has a removable hinge pin so you can break it down into 2 parts right? How/where do you store it? Is there a hole in the ammo compartment? What if you lose it/drop it? How hard is it to rig up a spare?
Would it be possible to rig up a lanyard type deal and maybe attach it to one of the halves? I like that it has the .410 shot gun option. Is there such a thing as a .410 slug?

[East Scout II]

Hey everybody, this is way back from page 2.

The M6 has a removable hinge pin so you can break it down into 2 parts right? How/where do you store it? Is there a hole in the ammo compartment? What if you lose it/drop it? How hard is it to rig up a spare?
Would it be possible to rig up a lanyard type deal and maybe attach it to one of the halves? I like that it has the .410 shot gun option. Is there such a thing as a .410 slug?

Somehave a butterfly wingnut and some just have a pin...You can skide the pin back in the hole..stays just as good as if the rifle was assembled..

Yes there is 410 slugs..I use some german slugs ..I forget the name..ill check and let ya know..

[ArmchairLiberal]

Good pictures with the kayak outing. Pretty spiffy how you have yours set up, holding your rifle and bergen and all.

okay up to page 32 now...not meaning to be an ass, but what happens if you shoot the rifle while in the kayak? Broadside especially. I bet with a bit of practice one could compensate. I wonder how the SpecOps guys do it, especially stowing the paddle and switching to guns. Maybe the backseat guy keeps paddling?

[kayaker]

thats a really good Q actually! If only I had the resources to test that...

[TacoDelRio]

Not meaning to be an ass, but what happens if you shoot the rifle while in the kayak? Broadside especially. I bet with a bit of practice one could compensate. I wonder how the SpecOps guys do it, especially stowing the paddle and switching to guns. Maybe the backseat guy keeps paddling?

Your buddy has to shoot in the opposite direction at the same time. Teamwork.

[East Scout II]

That is a perfect question...Unfortunately there is not much of an oppurtunity to practice that type of drill legally...if i was E&Eing, waterborne, it be at night and if i was spotted, alone, id probably be dead pretty fast anyhow. Offering no sight and sound would be my best weapon...

[ArmchairLiberal]

Woohoo! All caught up.
Hey you know what I think would be cool?
To see a video of RGRBOX demo'ing some of his fire starting techniques.
Just a thought.

Thanks all for some great reading and pics.

[ArmchairLiberal]

Regarding the M6 hinge pin

You can skide the pin back in the hole..stays just as good as if the rifle was assembled..

Ah cool, makes sense. I shouldn't have assumed it would be really loose in just a gun half. I wonder how many they sell in Winchester 22 Maganum or that Hornet cartridge instead of 22 long rifle?

[TacoDelRio]

Armchair: The .22 Hornet model is handy, as it's potent enough to take mule deer and similar sized animals. Much safer than a .22lr against those animals. I don't know about legality of using .22 Hornet in anyone's area.

[East Scout II]

Armchair: The .22 Hornet model is handy, as it's potent enough to take mule deer and similar sized animals. Much safer than a .22lr against those animals. I don't know about legality of using .22 Hornet in anyone's area.

Totaly aginst the rules here but i think 22 mag is ok..Dunno the dif in the two.

[TacoDelRio]

Totaly aginst the rules here but i think 22 mag is ok..Dunno the dif in the two.

Hey, the thread is back. p-)

.22 Magnum isn't as powerful as .22 Hornet. I've heard of folks hunting Mule Deer with it, but I don't know anything for sure, since I don't hunt much save for survival-y furry critters.

And hey, the thread is back. p-)

[East Scout II]

Maybe i have it backwards..LOL

Yeah this is Frankenthread..its never gonan die..LOL

Going out tomrrow night on a snow cold weather drill..should be fun..look for the AAR Sunday at the HQ..Ill post some pics here too. I dont get to snow drill..Im looking forward to this.

[TacoDelRio]

Maybe i have it backwards..LOL

Yeah this is Frankenthread..its never gonan die..LOL

Going out tomrrow night on a snow cold weather drill..should be fun..look for the AAR Sunday at the HQ..Ill post some pics here too. I dont get to snow drill..Im looking forward to this.

Cool deal. I'll be doin' the same sun-mon. Suffer in sequence. :)

[East Scout II]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1013.jpg

Salute brother! Watch out for that lion!

[TacoDelRio]

Hahahah! I'd salute back but I'm at work.

There ain't no mountain lions above the treeline! 'cept that one time, and the other one, and that bear...

[East Scout II]

Hahahah! I'd salute back but I'm at work.

There ain't no mountain lions above the treeline! 'cept that one time, and the other one, and that bear...

Ill have wild dogs to worry over..Ill be alone this time..Might take the M6 Scout Rifle for protection

[RGRBOX]

The first two deer I shot growing up were with .22 Magnums.. one was in the sholder, and th esecond waiting ont eh school bus, and pegged him in the Azzhole..

I missed school that day..

RB

[TacoDelRio]

The first two deer I shot growing up were with .22 Magnums.. one was in the sholder, and th esecond waiting ont eh school bus, and pegged him in the Azzhole..

I missed school that day..

RB

How clean was the drop?

[RGRBOX]

clean.. he saw me, and moved in the opisit direction.. I just raised the rifle, took aim, and squeezed.. he was about no more the 50 meters away.. problem was he was running in the direction of my Grand pa's house.. but I wasn't worried about that, because he was 20 meters left of the house.. but he fell clean, and I just walked up to him.. clean shot.. my grand pa came down when he heard the shot, and helped me clean him.. we ait well that weekend..

RB

[Hollis]

clean.. he saw me, and moved in the opisit direction.. I just raised the rifle, took aim, and squeezed.. he was about no more the 50 meters away.. problem was he was running in the direction of my Grand pa's house.. but I wasn't worried about that, because he was 20 meters left of the house.. but he fell clean, and I just walked up to him.. clean shot.. my grand pa came down when he heard the shot, and helped me clean him.. we ait well that weekend..

RB


So that what happened to the traveling saleman.. :cantbeli:

[East Scout II]

The first two deer I shot growing up were with .22 Magnums.. one was in the sholder, and th esecond waiting ont eh school bus, and pegged him in the Azzhole..

I missed school that day..

RB

Ever see the movie "Thing to do in Denver when you dead"? Butthole shot is called a Buckwheat..OUCH

[RGRBOX]

Hey Hollis.. strange seeign you here.. Haven't seen you much on the other side lately..

I was 10 or 12 y/o when I shot my second deer.. White tail buck.. he was 6 points, but had lost one, so I ended up with only a 5 point..

RB

[RGRBOX]

rofl rofl

Never heard of that before..

RB

[East Scout II]

Andy Garcia movie..Christoph Walkin played the paralised gangster that put the hit on him and his buddies to be killed like that..great movie..

[RGRBOX]

strange.. haven't seen that one..

Answer my PM fromt eh other side..

RB

[East Scout II]

Old movie from the early 90s...I just answered it you azzhole..;-)

Ill post gear pics so we are on topic..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive2016.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive2012.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive2005.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive2004.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1008.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1006.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1001.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1003.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1007.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/mflag.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

Maryland's flag is a mind molester.

Danke, RB!

[East Scout II]

Only state that still retains the shield standard from the old world ..I love the MD flag..;-)

[BillySing]

Old movie from the early 90s...I just answered it you azzhole..;-)










http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/jan2006d/survive1008.jpg











That's one mean looking shiv on the right!

Is it an ontario creation? looks like the marine raider... Whatever it is, Whaddaya reckon? She tough? Hold an Edge? how bout the coating?

[USMC Tanker]

But Scout! Where have the tea bags gone?!

[RGRBOX]

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[TacoDelRio]

Tea bags in the noun or verb sense of the word?

[East Scout II]

That's one mean looking shiv on the right!

Is it an ontario creation? looks like the marine raider... Whatever it is, Whaddaya reckon? She tough? Hold an Edge? how bout the coating?


Its a great knife..Hold and edge..coating sticks fine and i wont leave home w/o in the bush..Its perfect for building projects w/ making noise isnt an issue...Yeah its a Marine Raider Bowie by Spec Plus.

[East Scout II]

But Scout! Where have the tea bags gone?!

grummble grummble grummble..LOL;-)

[Roanoke]

Holy double poster, Batman!

From reading this thread I think East Scout needs to learn the sacred art of the edit button.

[RGRBOX]

Either that or people need to learn the skill of not worring about the stupid stuff...

RB

[East Scout II]

Holy double poster, Batman!

From reading this thread I think East Scout needs to learn the sacred art of the edit button.


Blow me..and what RngBox said...

[RGRBOX]

*high five*

[East Scout II]

;-)................

[TacoDelRio]

Hahahah I love you guys!

*Does half-ass high five too late to catch yours*

[East Scout II]

Hahahah I love you guys!

*Does half-ass high five too late to catch yours*

Its a'ight we'll toss up another for ya..;-)

[Roanoke]

Blow me

lol

Some people don't take suggestions very well.

[TacoDelRio]

lol

Some people don't take suggestions very well.

Some people don't take jokes very well.

[RGRBOX]

Some people don't listen very well..

RB

[East Scout II]

lol

Some people don't take suggestions very well.


hey kid..why dont you go troll somewhere else..Go read your bible or play paint ball or shoot yourself in the face w/ your airsoft gun..What ever... just get the fuk outta the thread unless you have something constructive to say..

671 posts in this thread and you the first one to start w/ the mouth..

[East Scout II]

Anyhow ..I used my British mess tin for cooking last night..Its nice..Not as good as a German mess Tin, but miles better than the US or anything elze I have used in the past..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Feb%20Drill/FebDrill008.jpg

I like that I can fold the handle up to get it clear of the heat..I just hope it wont losen over time and use..

[H3]

Anyhow ..I used my British mess tin for cooking last night..Its nice..Not as good as a German mess Tin, but miles better than the US or anything elze I have used in the past..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Feb%20Drill/FebDrill008.jpg

I like that I can fold the handle up to get it clear of the heat..I just hope it wont losen over time and use..

Looks good but I hope you don't have some cheep imitation mess tin as they can be cr*p and warp easily, to be honest we use this these days.

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=2005

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=20008

[snake]

Hey East Scout
Did you pick up that kit thru the Sportsmans Guide or did you get it local

[RGRBOX]

He's got that piece of kit too..

RB

[East Scout II]

Hey East Scout
Did you pick up that kit thru the Sportsmans Guide or did you get it local


Buddy sent it to me from the UK..He said it was issue..

[East Scout II]

Looks good but I hope you don't have some cheep imitation mess tin as they can be cr*p and warp easily, to be honest we use this these days.

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=2005

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=20008

Yep I have the cup and cooker that goes on the bottom too..I wanted to test out the mess tin though.


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Feb%20Scout/KitTest012.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Feb%20Scout/KitTest010.jpg

[RGRBOX]

Like I said.. he's got one...

RB

[East Scout II]

You know the universal rule...LOL pics, or!;-)

[TacoDelRio]

...along with an incredibly-green LMF spoonforknife. :)

[RGRBOX]

It works doesn't it???

RB

[East Scout II]

I lost the last one that was OD...the neon wont get lost as easy.

[RGRBOX]

that's what I was thinking...

RB

I also have soem orange and your favorite Pink models..

RB

[East Scout II]

your gayness has no bounds..

[RGRBOX]

coming from you I take that as a complement.. but anyone else, I'd probably have to kill them.

RB

[Howitz]

East Scout,
What kind of smock are you wearing in those pics you posted?

[East Scout II]

Im wearing two versions..an M88 on the bottum and S95 w/ the hood attached over everything..I like using the M88 like a shirt or field blouse like back in the day in the US army before they went to ACU..

[East Scout II]

and i was also wearing the standard S95 shirt at one point...It was a wet drill so i was changing close a lot..;-)

[RGRBOX]

I can promise you one thing.. no matter what kind od smock it was.. it was in DPM..

[East Scout II]

Lol.......

[TacoDelRio]

I thought you were real big on that fleck-tarn stuff from Turkey or CHina or Dutchland or whatever they call that place west of Georgia?

[East Scout II]

I like Tanzanian DPM Flek hybrids..

[kayaker]

riiiight! :?

[RGRBOX]

that was total BS... there's only one DPM you like..

RB

[East Scout II]

Ordered one of these today..it was only 20$..Like i needed more DPM but the price was right and the one I got for xmas was for someone w/ a 2 inch chest and 8 foot tall

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-photos16/bcjb.jpg

[East Scout II]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/bcjb.jpg

[tacticalmaster[EST]]

Enhanced LBV
ALICE ammo pouches
Canteen pouch
Back pouch from Estonian Defence Forces backpack + 3 pouches from harness.

Much better and more versatile than original EDF harness.

[East Scout II]

http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=escape292

[East Scout II]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Dead%20stuff/th_deadstuff004.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Dead%20stuff/?action=view&current=deadstuff004.flv)

[kayaker]

good video ES. The dog made me laugh... How did it taste?

[Hollis]

good video ES. The dog made me laugh... How did it taste?


Are you saying, ES WOKed the dog.............. Egads, we need to call PETA.

Dog and Onions? Humm

[East Scout II]

It was good..better than anything Ive had from the store but they make me very thirsty so best to kill two birds w/ one stone and boil them when you need some water then drink the water and not waste it..

I though youd have seen this one already at the HQ..

Anyhow thanks..

[East Scout II]

HolliS fat dog will eat anything if she seem me eating it..

[RGRBOX]

Isee Fat Dog (Dinker) likes them..

RB

[RGRBOX]

I never saw that one before now..

You hiddinf vids from us over there..

RB

[Redguy]

Cool video, ES.

I've got a question for all you survival guys. Anybody know weather or not its legal to carry a firearm (i.e shotgun) on to national forest property for protection? I'm looking to do a little survival exercise in the Uwharrie national forest, probably me and 2 other guys.

[RGRBOX]

I would call the loack sheriff's office about that.. but be carfeful when being out there.. you will not be alone, and many also carry weapons while out there..

RB

[Redguy]

I would call the loack sheriff's office about that.. but be carfeful when being out there.. you will not be alone, and many also carry weapons while out there..

RB

Yeah, i just sent a e-mail the the NC wildlife office. Yeah.. there are lots of wack jobs, which is why i want to find out about the whole gun thing.

[ag05]

Yeah, i just sent a e-mail the the NC wildlife office. Yeah.. there are lots of wack jobs, which is why i want to find out about the whole gun thing.


I speak only from a Texas Perspective, but here state laws apply. I can't carry a rifle or shotgun on my person, but Concealed Handgun laws apply, so I can carry that. Smart move, checking in advance. This is not something you want to find out that hard way. Might also check with a reputable local gun store ower. Sometimes these guys either know the laws or know where to look.

[East Scout II]

I never saw that one before now..

You hiddinf vids from us over there..

RB


there is three that I know of you never watch or at least you never said anything in the threads
..

[East Scout II]

Yeah, i just sent a e-mail the the NC wildlife office. Yeah.. there are lots of wack jobs, which is why i want to find out about the whole gun thing.

If its a national forest NO..Its federal land and you will get in deep poo if you get cought..States land is a hole other story depend what state your in..

[ag05]

In some cases it depends on whose responsible from park admin. Sam Houston Nat'l forest is run by Texas Parks and Wildlife, so their rules apply even though its technically fed land. It might be same in his case.

[East Scout II]

I was told by the VA state police that in VA, if it Federal land like a National Forest, it illegal. (we went to GW Nation Forest there).I was told the same thing For where I go in PA. Its the same here in MD too...Im in no way suggesting your wrong..Im just a chicken and when I have doubt, I leave anything that looks like a firearm weapon home..

If you're not taking the weapon for hunting but rather to just train w/ it in other ways, get yourself a dummy gun..That all I use.

[ag05]

I was told by the VA state police that in VA, if it Federal land like a National Forest, it illegal. (we went to GW Nation Forest there).I was told the same thing For where I go in PA. Its the same here in MD too...Im in no way suggesting your wrong..Im just a chicken and when I have doubt, I leave anything that looks like a firearm weapon home..

If you're not taking the weapon for hunting but rather to just train w/ it in other ways, get yourself a dummy gun..That all I use.

Good advice. We Texans are always looking for ways to get to carry our guns.

[East Scout II]

You have open carry there right? Thats perfect for survival training

[RGRBOX]

Yeah, i just sent a e-mail the the NC wildlife office. Yeah.. there are lots of wack jobs, which is why i want to find out about the whole gun thing.

I was refering to the SF course that's ran thru there..

RB

[ag05]

You have open carry there right? Thats perfect for survival training

**** I wish. CC only, and thats with a license. When I was at Big Bend Ranch I carried either in my LBE holster or I stuck it in the buttpack. In other parks it's either IWB or in the buttpack.

[East Scout II]

Interesting ..VA has better gun laws then Tx..I learn something new every day..Wva and Va, both have open carry..

[Durandal]

Funny thing is, a lot of States have open carry. Ohio does.

In Ohio though they nail you for "inciting panic" if you open carry in any place that is remotely urban...and some rural.

[Redguy]

Thought i'd let you guys know what the Wild Life Office said.


Sir,

The Wildlife Resources Commission rules on this topic read as follows:

Possession of Hunting Devices. It is unlawful to possess a firearm or bow and arrow on a game land at any time except during the open hunting seasons or hunting days for game birds or game animals, other than fox, unless the device is cased or not immediately available for use, provided that such devices may be possessed and used by persons participating in field trials on field trial areas and on target shooting areas designated by the landowner, and possessed in designated camping areas for defense of persons and property; and provided further that .22 caliber pistols with barrels not greater than seven and one‑half inches in length and shooting only short, long, or long rifle ammunition may be carried as side arms on game lands at any time other than by hunters during the special bow and arrow and muzzle‑loading firearms deer hunting seasons and by individuals training dogs during closed season without field trial authorization.

As you can see, you may have your shotgun in the camping area only. A pistol may be carried elsewhere on the game land, except during the bow-and-arrow and muzzleloader seasons.


Not sure what the camping area's are like, but i'm pretty sure they're the kind of place for a survival exercise, more like normal civilian type camping.

[East Scout II]

thanks...!

[East Scout II]

I put my WD camo Sturm (made in Germany not China) 2 man trail tent up last Tuesday. Its been up since then.I watched the nylon stretch slightly and had to adjust the guy lines..Np..I hoped it would rain..Got a sprinkle on Wed but IMO it wasnt enought to test its rain profomance..It has sealed seems but AFAIK its not treated w/ anything other then a thin coat of laytex type water proofing...Well it rained its balls off here last night w/ thunder storms, high winds and rain, all night into the sunrise today..I thought for sure it would have 2 inches of water in the bottom. Especially since I didnt set it up w/ a ground sheet..

Well I went out to have a look at it was 100% dry inside. I was VERY pleased. I never use a tent w/o a poncho or tarp over it becuase every tent I have used was basicly a bug and wind shelter that was useless in the rain..

Anyhow I took some pics..This tent is typical Eropean style (made in germany) w/ the poles inside. I like that otherthan the little caps i have to keep track of that go ontop the poles and keep the rain out. I have a perminent 550 cord trung on the inside from pole to pole for drying socks and Tshirts over night. I also hang chemlights or my minimag if Im up late doing Admin stuff.

One other thing Im not sure I like is the entrance..if you look at the inside picture w/ the tent bag on the floor youll see the door to the tent. Only one side opens. Its good cause you have lesss zippers to malfunction but its a PITA in the winter and it you're a big guy, forget it..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Sturmtent001.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Sturmtent002.jpg

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http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Sturmtent004.jpg

[kayaker]

I like the look of that tent.... although BDU colours the model is civvy enough to also pitch it on the camp site... I'd have no problems usin that... reminds me of my old tent which iI used as kid... same shape, diff colour

[East Scout II]

I have an extra if you want it..

[RGRBOX]

what a gay tent.... jk

[East Scout II]

assbag.;-)

[RGRBOX]

har har...

[Flagg]

yeah...that tent looks pretty sweet.

Does it hold up well in the wind since there's no wind getting under it?

Also, what's the bottom piece made out of?

Will it be durable enough againststicks, rocks,etc...or will it be ****e to ripping?

[East Scout II]

yeah...that tent looks pretty sweet.

Does it hold up well in the wind since there's no wind getting under it?

Also, what's the bottom piece made out of?

Will it be durable enough againststicks, rocks,etc...or will it be ****e to ripping?


It was outside in the storm all night w/ rain and wind. The only items keeping it secure to the ground were the guy lines stakes and poles. It was empty and did fine against the gusts..and Im right on the water so they were extra strong..

As for durability. The only problem I ever had was the stuff sack getting a rip in it when I squeezed through some boulders while exploring a mountain top. The poles rubbed the boulder inside the sack and busted through the stuff sack... The bottom is made of a newer type coated nylon I have seen in more modern tents. Its thicker than the roof and walls but not by much so the weight is down but its better armored then the rest of it..When I first got it I set it up and left it in the yard and a rather large branch was on it the next morinig. It had no puncture holes. Nothing has ever come up through the floor either..

Almost everyone in my SERE group had one (7 members)and I dont ever remember anyone ever having a problem

[Guggenmauer]

Goddamn this thread is awesome. Thanks to all of the people who have contributed to it. Very insightful stuff.

[East Scout II]

Your welcome..if you like this thread, check out the link in my profile ..The group was born from this thread..

[Guggenmauer]

Gotta hit the rack now, but I'll try to remember to register tomorrow. G'night.

[TacoDelRio]

Good to see folks like it. Maybe I should post my AAR's here (just kidding).

[East Scout II]

HAHAHA..fuker..;-)

I agree..more than a year after its start, people are still getting something from it..Good to hear.

[East Scout II]

My area is a mass of creeks, rivers, swamps, and marshes. I have a kayak as part of my escape plan. This model is a Patriot made by Mainstream ..It can hold a load of up to 450lbs and w/ a full load i have taken it in water that was three inches deep. It had a wide flat bottom ideal fot tidal areas.

Ive posted some of these pics form last year and some are new from this year.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/dsc03714.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/dsc03721.jpg

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http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone009.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone010.jpg
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http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone013.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone014.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone016.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone017.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/PATHFINDER%20KAYAK/KayakDone.jpg

[gaijinsamurai]

NICE!!!!!
Regarding the tent, it shocked me to see E-S with something other than DPM...perhaps we'll see photos of him running around in flaktarn or ACU next!!!!!!!!

[California Joe]

Nice tent pal, I may have to get one of those. My son has been after me to camp out on the little island in the pond out back...heh.

This thread is one of the better examples of being entertaining and informative, as well as relatively flame free, that's ever been on this board.

[East Scout II]

NICE!!!!!
Regarding the tent, it shocked me to see E-S with something other than DPM...perhaps we'll see photos of him running around in flaktarn or ACU next!!!!!!!!


I have a gortex SAS (really not just a sales pitch) Gortex bivy shelter but I need poles fibergladd flek for it..And thanks..

NEVER ACU..perhaps FGlekky..;-)

[East Scout II]

Nice tent pal, I may have to get one of those. My son has been after me to camp out on the little island in the pond out back...heh.

This thread is one of the better examples of being entertaining and informative, as well as relatively flame free, that's ever been on this board.


Thanks for the compliment Joe...

[East Scout II]

BTW I dont think you can fidn teh tens in the states anymore..Sportsmans use to carry em but no more..I only see them on European websites now..

I have an extra if anyone is interested..

[Hollis]

No kidding on the quality of the thread. This is one of my favorite.

[Weasel]

Good to see folks like it. Maybe I should post my AAR's here (just kidding).

I would appreciate it.


More booze photos? ;-)

[East Scout II]

Here is a short vid i made..Im VERY new to vid stuff and it in no way covers everything thats been done at the HQ or MDSERE..but just a tatse

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/th_SEREIII-1.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/?action=view&current=SEREIII-1.flv)

[East Scout II]

I would appreciate it.


More booze photos? ;-)


You must have him mixed up w/ your SA re-enactimng, man loving buddies...

[Weasel]

You must have him mixed up w/ your SA re-enactimng, man loving buddies...

:cantbeli:We are re-enecting girl-scouts, stupid!

[East Scout II]

Glock Etool..Just got this..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Sturmtent005.jpg
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[Catch22]

Nice thingy, lightweight compared to tri-fold E-Tool. But ****e to rusting,especially after the finish wears off (which is quite fast) just be warned ES.

[East Scout II]

Thanks Catch..My glock knife rusts rather fast too.....Ill just have to be sure to paint it over when i can..

again thanks for the heads up!

[RGRBOX]

Hey Catch.. any Camo updates.. I'm still looking.

RB

[East Scout II]

Get any mud on your new PLCE RB?