Types and Development of Man, 1904

[Skaman]

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I scanned this out of a primary source reader of mine, and in-light of the current theme of racism on the board, I saw it pertinent to include this interesting document.

This source is American in origin and very reminiscent of the "great chain of being" commonly used in Europe in the 1500's to late 1700's. The reason I see this interesting and relevant to discussion as the very origin of the North American ideal regarding other nations and peoples is born out of racism and class structure. North Americans have always seen themselves as superior and this inherent arrogance carries on with us today, but significantly less notable of course. So here, we have a structured diagram telling it how it is. In the center, we have lady liberty, the cradle of morality and education; bringing light into the world in the presence of darkness. In Status and achievement we have:

1. The Anglo-American and European peoples.
2. The Burly Russian
3. The Japanese
4. The Hindu
5. The Turk
6. The Chinese
7. The Arab
8. The Indian
9. The Negro
10. The Ainu
11. The Bushman
12. The Neanderthal


Very profound no? Keep in mind this is only 100 years ago.

[OnTheRocks]

the neanderthal?
I thought that there were no neanderthals left? :|

[Seoulstriker]

genetic variation among races is negligable.




evolution.

[OnTheRocks]

true, but are any of the "races" still Neanderthals?
I thought we were all homosapiens sapies, or atleast homosapiens..

Corrcet me if Im wrong

[Skaman]

*fixed the image

[Tane Angle]

We were never Neandertals, and Neandertals were never us. The two species diverged long before either species evolved. There are no surviving Neandertals today, and have not been for some thousands of years. But who's counting? Have a good one all, and just some thoughts (well, the Neandertal part is pretty much scientific fact)...

[Seoulstriker]

We were never Neandertals, and Neandertals were never us. The two species diverged long before either species evolved. There are no surviving Neandertals today, and have not been for some thousands of years. But who's counting? Have a good one all, and just some thoughts (well, the Neandertal part is pretty much scientific fact)...


right on, bro. :)

[Skaman]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?

[Seoulstriker]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

[Ratamacue]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

I'm a Darwinist. Are you saying that I'm racist?

[Skaman]

I can only imagine how much of this racism, arrogance and intolerance has rubbed off on today’s contemporary Western people. Arrogance and superiority is definitely alive and well. It was only fifty years ago an African-American could not attend University. I think documents like this say much about the origins of our thought, and the perceptions we hold on those that are different.

Such is the human condition...these same style documents exist in Far eastern and ME cultures. Some are as recent as the WW's.

[ibstolidude]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?

I think that is in over 100 years old....of course so is reading the skull measurements and bumps could determine your intellect, personality and future capabilities... I always wondered if there existed a really forward thinker you would give you bumps in the "math region" of the skull to improve your accoutning skills...a little hammer here and suddenly you are a math wiz.


I think you one can go back to any period in history and laugh at the ideal, mindsets, illectual conception and norms.

Considering there are people still on the earth that do not know that boil the water = safe to drink the water or little advanced pieces of science like Don't crap and throw garbage where you sleep lest you get sick -

[Skaman]

This is only a 100 years ago. This document really says something for North Americans who in this image proclaim to be the frontier of intellectual thought and morality when ironically, they have destroyed the very social rights they stand for-equality.

[Skaman]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

I'm a Darwinist. Are you saying that I'm racist?

are you a social darwinist?

[ibstolidude]

This is only a 100 years ago. This document really says something for North Americans who in this image proclaim to be the frontier of intellectual thought and morality when ironically, they have destroyed the very social rights they stand for-equality.
We sure are destroying those I deals on a regular basis:


ACE's Minorities in Higher Education Annual Status Report Examines 20 Years of Postsecondary Data and Trends

WASHINGTON, DC (October 8, 2003) -- Total minority enrollment at the nation's colleges and universities surged by 122 percent over the past 20 years, up from nearly 2 million in 1980-81 to 4.3 million in 2000-01. Despite this significant gain, African Americans and Hispanics continue to lag behind their white counterparts in the percentage of college-age, high school graduates enrolled in college. These are just two key findings from the 20th anniversary Minorities in Higher Education Annual Status Report released today by the American Council on Education (ACE).

Although the rising enrollment numbers for students of color are encouraging, the gap among college participation rates for white, African-American, and Hispanic high school graduates has widened. In 1978-80, the college participation rate for all races was about 30 percent. However, in 1998-2000, the college participation rate of 18- to 24-year-old white high school graduates was 46 percent, compared with 40 percent of African Americans and 34 percent of Hispanics.

[Ratamacue]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

I'm a Darwinist. Are you saying that I'm racist?

are you a social darwinist?

I'm someone who believes in evolution rather than magic.

[Kenshin]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

not worth reading. it ignites racist minds that are very numerous nowadays.

[Seoulstriker]

i actually studied that document and a few others last semester in a sociology class. the authors actually used evolution as a justification for their racism. and that's a fact.

the document certainly goes back into the vault of 'once held, no longer held' files. let it rest. the only thing you really need to understand about that document is what i wrote above.

[WARPIG]

Only 100 years ago. Only? It is old and outdated thinking in North America. Of course there are those pockets of idiots who still coddle their hatred for other races, but on the whole.. old stinking thinking.
I don't think that racism has any correlation to any biological or Darwinian origin.. most of it is cultural these days. Skin color is usually just a visual signal of cultures but not usually the reason for racism. Human history shows that we used to depend on a lot of what we could see.
To most Europeans.. Negro peoples came from the jungle as scimians did. They appeared to be uncultured but Eurpean standards and were seen as savage. Hence, the ideal that they were sub-human. We don't think that way now. We still have our stereo-types and cliche's for all kinds of races and cultures but that is pretty normal. Only when someone takes those things serious does conflict arise. I am speaking from a US cultural view point... I can't say where the racial tension from Canada comes.

[Trigger]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

I'm a Darwinist. Are you saying that I'm racist?

Hey Rat,
If birds came from dinosaurs, and we came from apes...

Why are there still apes? and why do we watch shows like 'Survivor' for entertainment while the apes just pick fleas off each other?

:D

[Haiw]

aside from pre-historic man, what else do you think of this document?


i think it's darwinists using evolution to justify their racism.

I'm a Darwinist. Are you saying that I'm racist?

Hey Rat,
If birds came from dinosaurs, and we came from apes...

Why are there still apes? and why do we watch shows like 'Survivor' for entertainment while the apes just pick fleas off each other?

:D
Those Apes just didn't pay attention and just slacked off during evolution. They were too busy picking fleas off each other. Just like the people watching Survivor will be a 'lower' form of evolution in the future ;)

[Trigger]

You may have a point there Dutch Boy. :D