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Hellfish
02-12-2006, 03:27 AM
Help a brutha out,
I'd love some recommendations for shoes that are good for running on concrete and if anyone has any recommendations for some good hiking/trekking shoes (not boots!). I'm going to be wearing the trekking shoes in mountains and jungle, so waterproofing would be a bonus.
Surely one or two of you guys does one or the other, eh?
I'll treat anyone who helps me out to a naked picture of either California Joe, Argyll or Sniper Skull. Your choice. Multiple good recommendations gets you multiple pictures.
Cheerio. p-)
Roger Rabbit
02-12-2006, 08:22 AM
For running shoes your best bet is to go to your local specialist running shop not JJB sports or such outlets. They should look at your feet, your style of running etc and suggest a suitable pair. Everyone is different, whats suitable for someone here might not be for you.
For the "running on concrete" shoes, I'd go with these: Reebok Classics (http://www.shoes.com/product.asp?p=5007644%7EMens&sc=MENS&variant_id=63035)
Reebok's been making those shoes forever, great arch support. They were originally designed for cross-training. When I was working a crappy retail job while going to school, I'd wear those for 11+ hours a day, never had any foot fatigue at the end of a shift.
Oh, and I already have a naked pic of SS, so either CJ or Arg will suffice.
percell_086
02-12-2006, 10:21 AM
for Hiking I always use my Lowa's; They are great! I used them in the snow, woods, on Ice, rocks, sand, everything! I love 'em!
tuercas
02-12-2006, 10:26 AM
for running on concrete i would recomend Nike Air Pegassus : bowerman edition. stay away from spring shox or airbags for concrete. if on the cheap, Nike Air Copius is a good alternative to Air pegassus
Ruledbyjames
02-12-2006, 11:50 AM
I saw a show on tv a while back and it said the majority of running shoes on the market are rubish on concrete. The best make of running shoe Ive heard are asics. My friend is a big runner and he swears by them. Dont know about model numbers though, sorry.
frankie
02-12-2006, 01:04 PM
The best make of running shoe Ive heard are asics. My friend is a big runner and he swears by them. Dont know about model numbers though, sorry.
If running for any length of time or frequency a few rules to live by.
1 Get yourself 2 pairs of runners, they need time between uses to recover fully, the foam will compress and if you use the same pair every day you might get 6 months out of a pair. If you have 2 pair and alternate you will get might get 18 months out of a pair.
2 Never buy any running shoe that does not have both heel and fore foot cushioning. There are models available that have heel only additional cushioning that go for under $100.00 but they are more for walking, the additional cushioning in the forefoot helps to absorb shock and assist with toe off as you take tha next stride.
3 Use your runners for RUNNING only, not going out, or every day use, as stated earlier, this allows the shoe to recover between uses, thus extending their life. Every show has a use life built into them. The shoe does not cae if you are walking or running, makes sense to use your expensive shoes for what they are designed forno? Would not use a rifle as a door stop...well most of you wouldn't
4 Realize that you are going to have to replace them, and budget accordingly. When they are no longer good for running, they can still be used as everyday shoes.
5 Your feet (when sober) are (ideally)the only point of contact you have with the ground, and foot problems lead to ankle, knee then back issues.
All prices approximate and in Canadian $
Neutral Cushion Shoes
Asics Nimbus $190.00
Asics Cumulis $140.00
Adidas Super Nova Cushion $130.00
New Balance has too many models to list.
stability shoes
Asics Keyano $230.00
Asics 2110 $160.00
Asics 1110 $130.00
New Balance 766 $150.00
Just a few to start with.
Realize that every shoe fits a little different, try on many, when you find one that suits your foot, and you have success with, best not to screw with a good thing.
As for hikers, there are again too many to list, you also want to consider foot beds or insoles when buying hikers.
Good socks also help.
Carib
02-12-2006, 02:05 PM
NIKE ZOOM AIR MILERS are the sh$t yo
Gauntlet
02-12-2006, 02:12 PM
If you have a small wallet. I'd say Saucony. I needed shoes for running. So far these shoes are nice and I paid less than $30 for them.
frankie
02-12-2006, 02:44 PM
If you have a small wallet. I'd say Saucony. I needed shoes for running. So far these shoes are nice and I paid less than $30 for them.
Another good brand.
Keep in mind, most shoe companies are like car companies.
They have models for all budgets. That being said, refer back to my first post here. Forefoot cushioning is a must for any type of running.
Irish
02-12-2006, 03:30 PM
I saw a show on tv a while back and it said the majority of running shoes on the market are rubish on concrete. The best make of running shoe Ive heard are asics. My friend is a big runner and he swears by them. Dont know about model numbers though, sorry.
YES,I agree I use ASICS GEL..And i only run on concrete and at least 30 mils per week...well i did up to a few weeks ago.gettin lazy:-(
SuperShot5000
02-12-2006, 04:55 PM
If you run a lot like me and don't mind paying out of your ass for it, go with Nike Air Max or Shox.
I have owned one pair of Air Max's for two and a half years and they've survived 2 marathons, countless 5k's and daily 5 mile runs.
thegman
02-12-2006, 05:03 PM
asics gel is where its at...i gotta pair and i use them for track and cross country
Chulo
02-12-2006, 05:48 PM
i have no idea about trekking.. but here are some trekkies wearing shoes
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~chicag/Trekkies.jpg
p.s.. i go for asics when running.. nor new balance ..
W3s II
02-12-2006, 09:27 PM
I've found that Nike Shox have been very good running shoes. One pair can last you 250-400 miles. They're also very comfortable.
thegman
02-12-2006, 11:32 PM
what pair did you have?
I had a pair back in the day and it was not the best runnin shoe i've had...the "shox" fell apart, thats when i switched to asics
W3s II
02-13-2006, 12:06 AM
what pair did you have?
I had a pair back in the day and it was not the best runnin shoe i've had...the "shox" fell apart, thats when i switched to asics
The ones that came out in 2002. You could tie up the laces and then there was a zipper that covered the laces. It was silver, red and white.
I must have ran around 250+ miles wearing those.
MakeWar87
02-13-2006, 12:11 AM
CUCK TAYLORS all the way baby
best website in the world chucksconnection.com
I climbed 6 14teeners with one pair and still wear that pair today.
shinraiden
02-13-2006, 02:22 AM
Steel toes all the way, that's number one.
My regular day shoes are size 13 cheapo stanley steel toes from the discount shoe shop. One nice bit about steel toes in softer (non-OSHA boots) is that it gives a solid platform for running on your toes. 5 minutes running in those barges adds a grapefruit-sized muscle to your calves, along with nasty cramps and aches. Then again, that's more likely due to my sitting at the computer all day. Furthermore, you get the added exercise of having the equivelent of several pounds of lead wrapped around your ankles. Although they're not OSHA boots, I've dropped telephone poles, trees, and who knows what sort of crap on them with no flex in the toes. Unfortunately my hand was between the telephone pole and my boots, but that's another story.
For more more extreme situations, I generally go for the feed store discount Lacrosse barn boots with steel toes. Blackberries puncture them though if you get in too thick, which is a problem when you go to muck out the neighbors ditch backed up with manure, blackberries, and rusted barbed wire ends. Generally uninsulated, but you can stick in pocket heaters under your toes and wear about 4~6 pairs of socks. Trout up in the Bridger-Tetons love the red threads on grey and red logger wool knee-high socks btw. The biggest problem with those boots though is they don't fit in most horse stirrups, and it's a pain to get the leg cuffs of an offshore Pacific fisherman's water slicker suit on over the boot tops.
My dad and I though, if we decide to "take (make) the shortcut up over Shale Slide Ridge" usually go for the $5 water-socks from Wal-mart or whatever. Add ~2 pair socks and it's like floating on air, with almost as much flexibility as climbing shoes. Otherwise he hikes in his 20 year old pair of logger boots that are still in excellent condition considering their usage. I'm saving my pennies for a nice tall lug steel-toe high-calf Danner Loggers. It's going to be a pain taking them through the airport though.
The real killer though is that I need really tall orthotic inserts, and the only thing strong enough is solid plastic inserts. It's ok walking, but jogging on clacking harded plastic insoles gets old quick.
Creeper
02-13-2006, 04:30 AM
! there is a hint ofsarcasism somewhere - still looking!
Asheren
02-13-2006, 06:02 AM
I would recommend Alpinus but orginal commpany went bankrupt sometime ago.
Mine Alpinus(most expensive shoes i ever bought ~75$) shoes are 6 years old and still in good condition and still water proof enough for all nomal uses. But i can't say anything about quality after mark was bought and resurrected by other company.
Daniel
02-13-2006, 07:46 AM
for running shoes, i use Brooks The Beast, ive heard nothing but good things about them
thegman
02-13-2006, 08:26 PM
The ones that came out in 2002. You could tie up the laces and then there was a zipper that covered the laces. It was silver, red and white.
I must have ran around 250+ miles wearing those.
Oh, i had them like in 2000, so yea that might explain the differnce
Catch22
02-13-2006, 09:33 PM
Try searching for Mizuno, most marathon-runners I know use them for urban marathons. Follow Frankie's advice he spoketh a word of wisdom.
http://www.mizunoeurope.com/sport/running-ss.asp
As for trekking - choose them dependantly on terrain. Just have a pair of lightweight sandals for water crossing (in warm weather naturally) strapped to your backpack. Lowa and Meindl are kings there, but they are expensive.
scrybe
02-13-2006, 10:01 PM
Frankie has given the best advice in here so far. I've been running in Asics 2100s lately. Great shoe, and they've been through a lot. Asics 2100 (http://www.roadrunnersports.com/cgi-bin/rrs/rrs/ProductPg.jsp?baseProdKey=RRASC858&catOID=-8999&BV_SessionID=@@@@0899916364.1139885897@@@@&BV_EngineID=jaddfliimfijbekgcgecfeedg.0&fromClearance=true)
No matter what you get, I reccomend both www.eastbay.com and www.roadrunnersports.com as places to purchase.
frankie
02-13-2006, 10:33 PM
Scrybe, the 2110's are out now.
Another suggestion. Over 190 pounds.. start thinking about getting into the the Adidas, Asics, New Balance, Saucony and out of the Air. The heavier you are the easier to pop the Air.
As for Hikers, I own a pair of Pulse II by Merrell, nice light day hiker. Comfy, the air they have in the sole is just a void, not really a bubble. Also available in a waterproof version.
I will let the hardcore hikers debate the pros and cons of the all terrain hikers and boots.
Names like Danner, Haliwaig, Magnums and list will grow.
Daniel
02-13-2006, 11:05 PM
heavy runners are better off with brooks, they offer the most stabiltity and cushioning out of any runner i know. They are pricy, they cost around $210 aussie, US that is around 157.50
frankie
02-13-2006, 11:30 PM
heavy runners are better off with brooks, they offer the most stabiltity and cushioning out of any runner i know. They are pricy, they cost around $210 aussie, US that is around 157.50
Not too familiar with Brooks here. Can't comment either way.
scrybe
02-14-2006, 12:05 AM
Yea Frankie, I didn't realise the 2110 was out until reading your post. I got the 2100s right after they came out last year. I haven't been putting any serious mileage in them lately, but they got me through a month at Fort Knox, among other things.
I'd say the Brooks are on par with Saucony, maybe Asics as well. I haven't owned a pair, but my dad has owned several pairs of the Brooks Beasts, which he refers to as the fatboy shoes.
Hellfish
02-14-2006, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the advice, guys. I went ahead and got a pair of Lowa Strato Lo hiking shoes and I'm looking into a pair of Mizuno's here in Florida. I picked them because they had a fitting guide at their website and I liked the questions they asked - makes me feel like I'm making an informed decision and I'd rather get advice from a website than go to a store and get advice from a 16 year old who really doesn't give a ****. p-)
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