Russian Spetsnaz of SOBR (complete photos)

[mustamato]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/S_P1010084.JPG

How about putting a laser on the weapon so that it can be aimed when the
visir is used as it should be? We had russian (IR)-lasers to our swedish AK5´s,
so I know that you guys have them, never seen you use them though.

[RomanS]

we do have lasers, don't worry about our guys. They are well equiped, and if they need something else, they will get it.

[OnTheRocks]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/P1010016_4.JPG

What weapon is that?
Its not a Bizon is it?

[RomanS]

It is my friend our Bizon

The best submachine gun I've shot in my life.

[OnTheRocks]

Yey! I was right about something!

[Operation Ivy]

boring ;)

[duck]

In one of the pics there is a "Plamya" operated just by one guy. Wouldn't he normally have a patrol leader and spotter with him? That thing is damn heavy to carry, BTW.

[RomanS]

Normally in the combat you would have at least a loader/spotter with you. But during the training, most of the guys enjoy doing everything themselves.

You are right, AGS is carried by 2. The actual unit, and the tripod with ammo shells.

Operation Ivy, sorry budd here is just for you

http://www.arsenal.odessa.ua/arms/technic/t80t90/welcom80.jpg

[George W. Bush]

why is the pistol shooter squinting his non-dominant eye? I was always taught to shoot with both eyes open.

[RomanS]

It doesn't matter how you use them, its the end result that COUNTS

I saw him hit the target just fine.

I guess it really comes down to the shooter. Everyone is different, and has their own techniques

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

great pics as always dude woot

A couple quick questions (as you know I am a BIG BIG BIG fan or Russian gear and tactics)

1: Why isnt any mod or anyone putting these type of pictures in the photo albums? They should be there in there own special section. Its a shame nobody is achieving these, (of course with all copyrights belonging to Perm and his friends V.Makarov and B.Doan)

2: SOBR Ural excercise's? What does this include? From the pictures it looks like some sorta "entry" excercise into a building full of OPFOR?
I also see pics of them "clearing" tanks and the like, so if you can expand on the training they are going threw please do.

3: I also see majority of the guys are wearing Gord-camoflauge (the urban stuff) if I remeber my Russian camo correctly, yet there seems to be guys using the old steel "pot" helmets and regular VDV od jumpsuits. I assume these are different units? Am I correct? I know theres no "standard" uniform for the Russian army, or do the guys in the Gord have a different role?(i.e. are they the ones with the task of clearing the building while others provide security?)

Thanks in advance and im axiously waiting your reply

[SR15]

KICK ASS!!!, but how do you know who killed and whos not?

[Operation Ivy]

woot nice tank pic

[AK-Lover]

Permskii,comrade, have you ever fired RPG-7v and if you have how was it? It would be great if you had any pics! I'm a big fan of Russian weapons and military and would appreciate it. :D
P.S.(I'm a Serb-Russian) woot

[RomanS]

Pictures will be back tomorrow

I am out of Bandwith.

yes, you guys clicked on it, and 800MB of my bandwith is gone.

I guess its a good thing, my photos are Popular hehehehe


but come back tomorrow boys and girls. The photos plus bonus ones will be on the new server.

Roman

[Dennis G]

great photos Permskii woot woot woot

[Javehn]

Have any more pictures of tanks ?? Bring them also . A lot of them . Spank you .

[Argyll]

Thats a good point,perhaps Permski will allow them to be put in the user submitted albums?

Contact Hood and see if this is possible?

[obd]

yes I agree with Argyl. I can never seem to get you picks Permski because you are perpetually out of bandwith..........maybe someone like HOOD could host them for you if you are willing. After all, its not like the moderators have made an update to those picture areas since I turned 12 anyways.....hehehehe.

[RomanS]

Photos are back, and will be transfered to another server here shortly.

ENJOY

[Sabre]

Good photos mate, just one query:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/P1010052.jpg

These blokes in front are most surely obscuring the LoS of their oppo's behind, making their presence in a dangerous environment redundant. What is the purpose of advancing like this, would it not be better to provide support from a distance/vehicle and advance on an unobserved route such as the 'gable end', or the narrow end of the building? What is the context of this photo? Is it a deliberate, noisy attack on the target, or is it a covert 'grab & bag' raid on a criminal/terrorist cell?

Just a bit confuzzled! :|

[city.if]

woot nice tank pic
Don you think about this pic?
http://city.6to23.com/autopostimg/20031211228386113819918.jpg

[city.if]

Who play ofp?
I like Bizon

[Undo]

3: I also see majority of the guys are wearing Gord-camoflauge (the urban stuff) if I remeber my Russian camo correctly, yet there seems to be guys using the old steel "pot" helmets and regular VDV od jumpsuits. I assume these are different units? Am I correct? I know theres no "standard" uniform for the Russian army, or do the guys in the Gord have a different role?(i.e. are they the ones with the task of clearing the building while others provide security?)

Thanks in advance and im axiously waiting your reply

The guys in the "afgan bushlat" (the brownish uniforms) and with the old style helmets are infantry types, playing a supporting role in this exercise.

[RomanS]

Good photos mate, just one query:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/53088/P1010052.jpg

These blokes in front are most surely obscuring the LoS of their oppo's behind, making their presence in a dangerous environment redundant. What is the purpose of advancing like this, would it not be better to provide support from a distance/vehicle and advance on an unobserved route such as the 'gable end', or the narrow end of the building? What is the context of this photo? Is it a deliberate, noisy attack on the target, or is it a covert 'grab & bag' raid on a criminal/terrorist cell?

Just a bit confuzzled! :|

I am a bit confused on what you are talking about.

The motorized infantry covers every house like this in every cleansing operation in Chechnya or be it Canada.

About 50 meters away from them back is the armour support. BMP1s 2s and T80s with snipers and machine gunners laying in between.

How is it dangerous?

The SOBR is advancing, while the first wave of MIs are covering them. What can the terrorists do? Stick their head out and shoot at the advancing SOBR ?

Or maybe they can throw a grenade out, and see themselves from the 3rd person view the next second.

So explain on, how is it dangerous please

[duck]

Fire displicine would probably be one answer, another is that certain chemical substances and a smoke screen would surely be used in a real assault on a building. They would blow a corridor through any mines first and advance through the breach quickly under support weapons fire, smoke and possibly incapacitating gases helping to reach the objective. If there are no projected hostages/civilian casualties mortars/artillery/CAS would be used to the extent needed to pin down the defenders during the assault.

It's always possible to insert troops through the roof or canalisation if the odds don't look good for a direct attack. Just keep your opponent off balance and in shock. Shock, extreme violence, determination, again and again this is the winning formula.

[Undo]

Just keep your opponent off balance and in shock. Shock, extreme violence, determination, again and again this is the winning formula.

Shock and extreme violence are the basic tenents of Russian spetznas tactics. But rather than say extreme violence, I would say overwhelming violence. Very effective.

[Javehn]

Hehe . For overwhelming violent act , it would be good , if tanks would make new doors to the building , and the guys will shoot they way inside , and drive the ****ers out by shaping violent fire . Outside they will be dealt by heavy machinery . Pretty effective method , and you don't really have to come in contact with bandits . A lot of shaping fire .

[Argyll]

I have been asked by Perksimmon to delete his post as he's moving the photos to a different server,with more bandwidth.

Hence the dreaded red box of death!!