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Dennis G
02-29-2004, 10:31 PM
Anyone have some info and photos of that russian knife that fires bullets?

kutter
02-29-2004, 11:04 PM
Here you go.
http://www.vampiregerbil.com/ballistic/images/russkie1.jpg

and heres a poster of the knife, can any of our Russian friends translate what it says?
http://pvtpyle.com/Weapon%20pics/Sov%20balistic%20knife%20poster.jpg

spoonman
02-29-2004, 11:08 PM
no info, more pics.

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v12/spoonman/Chehi5.jpg

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v12/spoonman/Chehi6.jpg

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v12/spoonman/Chehi7.jpg

George W. Bush
02-29-2004, 11:08 PM
7.62 knife, reconnaissance, firing NRC-2

RomanS
03-01-2004, 12:20 AM
oh yeah

I shot it last summer.

Lots of fun.

My photos above too heheheh

:)

ibstolidude
03-01-2004, 12:37 AM
oh yeah

I shot it last summer.

Lots of fun.

My photos above too heheheh

:)
W/out bloating or bias... how accurate is it? Certainly it is intended for close quarters, but who many meters can the AVERAGE effectively employ it.

Thanks. Even if it shoots .5 meters it shoots farther than any knife I ever have been issued.

perdurabo
03-01-2004, 03:23 AM
how do you use it? how the hell to soot from that thing and not get stabbed by blade? (or maybe gun points with blade?) and why it's knife not hmm pencil or other thing?:)

flickme
03-01-2004, 08:42 AM
So i imagine you stab the guy and while the blade is in him you shoot him. Brutal :(

Dennis G
03-01-2004, 02:20 PM
Thanks guys great photos. Permskii what did it feel like shooting it. I wonder if this is illegal in the US?

RomanS
03-01-2004, 02:45 PM
erhaps Undo can explain better than I can. He was somewhat sober and paid a lot more attention.

25 meters all of us placed shots at an enemy's head.

The spetsnaz friends were smiling, and enjoying their american buds shooting the most expansive military small arms ammo.

Undo
03-01-2004, 02:55 PM
Knife is amazingly accurate. I was floored. When I went to shoot we were 25 meters away from target. You hold the blade pointing toward you (disconcerting) and aim down the sharp part of the blade through a notch in the crossguard. It doesn't kick too much and is extremely quiet (no idea how they managed that). Put a hole in the target's "head" just below the right eye. Lucky shot, I thought, but between myself and four other shooters we shot a six inch group. At 25 meters. With a knife. No exageration. I was amazed. Here is a pic.

http://simondog.com/FSB/nr_2-vi.jpg

perdurabo
03-01-2004, 03:05 PM
very intresting:> i thoguht that recoil would stab knife straight in your body :) it shoots that russian ammo SP6(7?9? grr what was that number:/ ) ?? if yes i know why it's so quiet :) AFAIK that ammo has little plate inside case that separates bullet and gunpowder so that ammo works like little piston and gas from gunpowder dosen't go outside :)

Undo
03-01-2004, 03:09 PM
Thanks guys great photos. Permskii what did it feel like shooting it. I wonder if this is illegal in the US?

I don't know if the knife itself is illegal in the States, but you would never be able to get the ammo. :(

It costs the Russian gov $50 a pop, or so they told me. The ammo itself is silent and armor-peircing. It is only issued to recon troops. There is a handgun that fires this ammunition, but I guess it is cheaper and somehow makes more sense to issue shooting knives.

khukuri
03-01-2004, 03:44 PM
Whats the point with it? Why not just use a gun with a silencer? Or does it sound more. In what situations do you use it? Is it fast to deploy, faster than grabbing you siderarm if you aldready hold the knife?

Dennis G
03-01-2004, 03:53 PM
Whats the point with it? Why not just use a gun with a silencer? Or does it sound more. In what situations do you use it? Is it fast to deploy, faster than grabbing you siderarm if you aldready hold the knife?

If your enemy thinks it is nothing other then a knife then he could be in for a big surprise.





I don't know if the knife itself is illegal in the States, but you would never be able to get the ammo.

It costs the Russian gov $50 a pop, or so they told me. The ammo itself is silent and armor-peircing. It is only issued to recon troops. There is a handgun that fires this ammunition, but I guess it is cheaper and somehow makes more sense to issue shooting knives.

:( I love knifes I would pay almost anything for a knife that can fire a bullet. I bet that you can not own one in the US

Undo
03-01-2004, 03:53 PM
It is certainly a very specialized weapon. It is not intended for average troops. It is kind of like Canadian SF (and others, I am sure) using a crossbow. Not handy for general combat, but it has a place in certain circumstances. It is primarily intended for taking out sentries and OPs at range. It is a novelty, like crossbows, underwater guns, etc. The right tool for the right job, as they say.

Scrim
03-01-2004, 03:56 PM
I have never ever seen that before. I ****ing love that thing.
I guess you can learn something new from these forums. Thanks guys.

Herrmannek
03-01-2004, 03:56 PM
Is it safe?

kutter
03-01-2004, 04:05 PM
A sidenote. The Chinese have a similar weapon except it fires 4x.22LR ammo and the knife blade is pointed away from you when firing. Its in Janes Infantry Weapons, if anybody's interested I can scan the entry.

Marmot1
03-01-2004, 04:58 PM
Well in Polad LR .22 shooting pens are very popular among criminals or at leas were popular few years ago. Actualy it is easy to make shooting toy on .22 since gas preasure is not high and barrel can be made easily from ordinary junk pipe of similar calibre, you need some tools of course and it is not very reliable, but still is working for close quarters.

As for the knife... one of them has 4 bullets ??? How do you select which one is fired, is there a safety swith on it???

Golani68
03-01-2004, 05:43 PM
To the russian boys on the site

Was there ever a russian knife
that fired the blade

I have heard about one
but did not know if it was real

sethen
03-01-2004, 06:35 PM
http://www.jaegerkorps.org/blankwaffen2.html

Hey Guys, how is this for Ultra-modern? :lol:

Sparky2129
03-01-2004, 07:35 PM
Is that the same knife that Olga used in metal gear solid 2?
sorry gamer here... :cantbeli:

kutter
03-01-2004, 08:17 PM
As for the knife... one of them has 4 bullets ??? How do you select which one is fired, is there a safety swith on it???

Scanned the entry. this should answer your question.
http://members.rogers.com/norinco78/chinaknife.jpg
DATA
Cartridge:.22LR rimfire
Operation:single-shot
Feed:4 pre-loaded barrels
Weight,empty:464 g
Length overall:262 mm
Barrels:86.3 mm
Rifling:4 grooves, rh, one turn in 224 mm
Blade length:140 mm
Effective range:30 m

GazB
03-02-2004, 03:03 AM
The correct translation for the Knife is NRS-2.

The purpose is when you are taking down senturies at night that you creep up to them to kill them quietly with the knife. If they detect your approach or you find you can't get close enough before they might detect you you are supposed to shoot them. The alterenative would be to have to throw the knife... which could mean giving your enemy a knife if you miss.

The SP series ammo is like the piston and cylinder in your car. The walls of the round are thick and instead of petrol (gasoline) there is a powder charge with a piston head covering it. The piston head in this case is also pressed against a bullet. When you fire the weapon the powder charge is ignited which pushes the piston head down the case of the round till it gets to the end and hits a shoulder and stops. The explosion, flash and smoke and noise is contained in the round but the short sharp thrust of the piston head pushes the bullet out of the weapon at subsonic velocity. Projectiles are heavy cylinder slugs with a hollow in the flat nose front.

Note that the information I have seen the weapon is designed to be fired with the scabbard attached.


Why not just use a gun with a silencer?

This is not a general purpose weapon... it is for sentry takedown and as such is a very small and compact weapon...

I have seen a few Soviet designs like this... some fire out from the blade end and others don't.

BTW nice pics.

Deicide
03-02-2004, 10:55 AM
I've find a "similar" knife-gun : G.R.A.D AOW Knife .22 LR
Video + description here : http://www.calibrepress.com/newsline/warningdetail.html?serial=33
More pics here : http://autoweapons.com/photosv/gradrs1.html
You can purchase it here : http://www.impactguns.com/store/grad_rs1.html

Undo
03-02-2004, 11:39 AM
Note that the information I have seen the weapon is designed to be fired with the scabbard attached.

BTW nice pics.

Hmm. I don't know about that. The scabbard is very bulky, and I think it would ruin any kind of sight picture. Normally I just assume that anything GazB says regarding Russian weapons is fact, but I have to disagree with his source on this one. Aligning the sharp edge of the blade to the notch in the crossgaurd yielded expected results. The scabbard would not stop the weapon from functioning, but it would obscure the "sights".

Any more info on this?

wholagun
03-02-2004, 11:48 AM
I gotta hand it to the Russias they are pretty creative sometimes.

GazB
03-04-2004, 06:13 AM
Any more info on this?


Yes, I have a photo from a book about the soviet army by Carey Schofield that shows a spetsnaz soldier holding the weapon in the way I described... will scan it tomorrow...

PFC Shadow
03-20-2005, 11:27 PM
Russians, smart sometimes? a silent round is f***ing genius, America NEVER thought about that, f***ing awesome man.

I have to use my Bushism with this, You guys in Russia, you guys are ingenuitive.

Evil_Avatar
03-21-2005, 12:11 AM
Was there ever a russian knife
that fired the blade


I belive it was issued to special forces in 1970s. Some were also supplied to VC during Vietnam.

Can someone with better info clarify?

NicNZ
03-21-2005, 02:36 AM
lol ingenuitive

Marmot1
03-21-2005, 08:35 AM
http://img13.exs.cx/img13/3069/14157.jpg


here is another russian knife.... p-)

sergey31
03-21-2005, 09:39 AM
sure it is.....
And this is French knife.
http://www.fortliberty.org/patriotic-humor/patriotic-pictures/french-army-knife.jpg

FinnishMF
03-21-2005, 10:04 AM
sure it is.....
And this is French knife.
http://www.fortliberty.org/patriotic-humor/patriotic-pictures/french-army-knife.jpg
god that was a good one :P

Bluezoo
03-21-2005, 12:07 PM
Interesting!