Creative protest in front of Danish embassy in Tehran - Iran

[kraf001]

Iran-Iraq war veteran "Hossein Noori" is drawing a portray of virgin Mary to showcase the enormous respect in Islam for Christian religion figure.. he claims he is sending a message with his art showing how the similar mutual respect could promote peace between nations..

http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/image/2006/02/180146_orig.jpg

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well I don't know about you but after the major media maneuver over protest of 300 Iranians in front of embassy it was very refreshing to see this... I hope every Muslim around the world could find peaceful ways like this to show how they feel about the cartoons… I hope Iranian media is not the only outlet reporting this and if international community wants to see things going back to normal, news agencies should report such events with the same passion that they report violent attacks on embassies..

[Cabbage]

Yes try to promote world-peace by painting the Virgin Mary and building nuclear weapons. What a funny combination.

I must admit at this point I do not understand the Iranian way of thinking. By the way....the Virgin Mary is usually shown holding baby Jesus. If you hadn't told me that was the Virgin Mary, I'd never had guessed...not really how we portray her.

Or at least like this:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6167/catholicvirginmarymotherofgod3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[kraf001]

Yes try to promote world-peace by painting the Vrigin Mary and building nuclear weapons. What a funny combination.

I must admit at this point I do not understand the Iranian way of thinking.
if you can't say something related then you can simply STFU... there are numerous threads on MP.net talking about your favorite Iranian nuclear bomb go troll there.. this thread has nothing to do with the nukes or Ahmadinejad...

[Canuck Farrier]

The Rest of the Nuclear powers should set the example and disarm themselves.in response to CABBAGE.

Nice Gesture from the Iranian

[Cabbage]

if you can't say something related then you can simply STFU... there are numerous threads on MP.net talking about your favorite Iranian nuclear bomb go troll there.. this thread has nothing to do with the nukes or Ahmadinejad...

It is related. Your thread talks about world peace. The nuclear bombs Iran are building threatens it. The juxtaposition is quite amusing. But don;t worry, if you just made the thread for everyone to say "awww...how nice". Then here:

How beautiful, wonderful, splendid painting! We should all unite for world peace since this painting brings us all together!

Forget I said anything...I wont be contributing anymore to this art appreciation thread.

p.s. You say it has nothing to do with Ahmadinejad, but unless the painter provided his own microphone, microphone stand, speakers, speaker stands, press department and police cordon I would guess this was a public event organised by the government. Thus having everything to do with Ahmadinejad.

But forget it! I never trolled in my life and never will...if my comments offend you that much...forget it!

[thegman]

Dude, im just amazed on how good he can paint with his teeth, i know there are others like him but still i like this guy.

[kaspur_eh]

That's nice to see someone like that, when we usually only get to see the radicals doin their thing.

[kraf001]

Dude, im just amazed on how good he can paint with his teeth, i know there are others like him but still i like this guy.
he is a very good person as well my sister always buys her painting tools from him, he has an art gallery in Tehran...

[evanfitz]

Very impressive, his artwork is beautiful.

[Cabbage]

Yes, though I agree it is nice and he paints very well. Are there more of his paintings available to see?

[kraf001]

Yes, though I agree it is nice and he paints very well. Are there more of his paintings available to see?
I couldn't find anything online.. I guess his name is too common, he has the same name with an Iranian actor so most of the searches leads to him...

[Cabbage]

I couldn't find anything online.. I guess his name is too common, he has the same name with an Iranian actor so most of the searches leads to him...

Yes, same here. I like art...have a few modest paintings myself at home (mostly antique prints but have some oil too). How much would one of his paintings come to out of curiosity, because I know the price of modern paintings from galleries over here? Just want to compare...

[kraf001]

Yes, same here. I like art...have a few modest paintings myself at home (mostly antique prints but have some oil too). How much would one of his paintings come to out of curiosity, because I know the price of modern paintings from galleries over here? Just want to compare...
nothing less than 400 dollars up to 200,000... well that is the price range for similar art in Iran..

[Ea$y-8]

Nice to see a Iranian who is promoting peace rather than war. I hope the majority in Iran is like him and not the angery crowd.

[toad]

I realize this is supposed to be a kum-ba-yah thread. A give peace a chance moment and group hug. But I don't care if you tell me to STFU or you whine about 'negative waves' in your groovy thread...

But I'll do what you want... I'll stand and hold hands and share a coke with the collective thread. Oooh and ahh at the painting your friend has created.
And I will balance that with two weeks of tens of thousands of people threaten to behead infidel westerners, burn embassies, threaten Danes, call westerners Pigs and Apes, and threaten to eliminate Israel....

....and you know what? The threatening to wipe out other nations and threatening another 911 (this time for Europe), while state run Iranian radio cranks out sermons calling the infidels Pigs and apes is not absolved by your buddies painting. Nope, sorry. Around here we would say that dog don't hunt.

But it would make a good show for Oprah, give her a call.

[kraf001]

I realize this is supposed to be a kum-ba-yah thread. A give peace a chance moment and group hug. But I don't care if you tell me to STFU or you whine about 'negative waves' in your groovy thread...

I can’t force you to do anything.. so do as you wish, I am not even a moderator on this site!


But I'll do what you want... I'll stand and hold hands and share a coke with the collective thread. Oooh and ahh at the painting your friend has created.
And I will balance that with two weeks of tens of thousands of people threaten to behead infidel westerners, burn embassies, threaten Danes, call westerners Pigs and Apes, and threaten to eliminate Israel....

the guy is not my friend (well I wish he was, he seems like a nice enough guy)... but do tell me where I said that there hasn't been a negative demonstration by Muslims... read what I wrote.. I hoped that Muslims will come their senses and do as this guy did... demonstrate peacefully, now I have a question for you: how is it that 300 demonstrators in Iran should get 24/7 media coverage but this guy doesn't deserve to get any attention? Iran has 70 million population who are you to decide if 300 demonstrators are representing them or ppl like this guy?


....and you know what? The threatening to wipe out other nations and threatening another 911 (this time for Europe), while state run Iranian radio cranks out sermons calling the infidels Pigs and apes is not absolved by your buddies painting. Nope, sorry. Around here we would say that dog don't hunt.

I am not here to tell you who to believe or what to watch, if Iran’s state run radio is where you find true Iran in then so be it... BUT this event took place and I reported it (something that none of the Western media did) now how you see it is your choice..


But it would make a good show for Oprah, give her a call.
rofl good one!

[p$ycho+log!cal]

powerful pictures

[joshfox0]

now THIS is a protest!!! this man is a good man and while i don't agree with his position the fact that he has had the bravery and skill to do that is brilliant . this kind of demonstration makes me feel much more amicable to not prinintg the cartoons however due to my personal views on freespeech i'd have to say sorry i still agree but i would genuinely be sorry.

[BlackRain]

well I don't know about you but after the major media maneuver over protest of 300 Iranians in front of embassy it was very refreshing to see this... I hope every Muslim around the world could find peaceful ways like this to show how they feel about the cartoons… I hope Iranian media is not the only outlet reporting this and if international community wants to see things going back to normal, news agencies should report such events with the same passion that they report violent attacks on embassies..

Protest? Are you the Minister of Disinformation for Iran here at MP.net?

Foreign embassies were attacked. It was not the peaceful, non-violent 'protest' you are trying pretend happened.

1) France condemns violence against embassy in Iran


"The Iranian authorities did not ensure sufficient protection for our diplomatic mission," Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei said. "The measures put in place belatedly did not prevent the demonstrators from damaging our buildings."

http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/13-02-2006/75890-France-0

2) Danish embassy attacked in Iran

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/2_7w.jpg



TEHRAN, Iran - Hundreds of angry protesters hurled stones and fire bombs at the Danish Embassy in the Iranian capital Monday to protest publication of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad. Police used tear gas and surrounded the walled villa to hold back the crowd

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02072006/world/86558.htm

3) UK Embassy Attacked in Iran

By Sher Zieve – The United Kingdom embassy in Tehran was attacked on Wednesday by Iranian “protestors”. The crowd is said to have numbered approximately 1,000.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/12197.html

4) IRAN: Iranians pelt Austrian embassy with fire bombs

Tehran --- A crowd of about 200 people pelted the Austrian Embassy in Tehran with fire bombs and stones yesterday in a protest over the publication of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

A ******* photographer at the scene said the protesters had smashed all the diplomatic mission's windows with stones and had thrown several petrol bombs at the building.


http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=38492


http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060210/capt.vah11102102152.iran_france_prophet_drawings_vah111.jpg?x=229&y=345&sig=ivgbJu2YPBD.nJdwLMWboQ--

A fire started by Iranian protestors' Molotov cocktails thrown at the French Embassy burns behind a french flag, following a protest over drawings of Islam's Prophet Muhammad published in European newspapers, in Tehran, Iran, Friday, Feb. 10, 2006.

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A fire burns in the Norwegian embassy, after protestors began throwing molotov cocktails and stones in protest over the publication of cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammad in several western newspapers, in Tehran, Iran February 7, 2006.

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An Iranian cleric shouts slogans and invites others to join him from inside the gate during a protest at the Danish embassy in Tehran, Iran February 7, 2006.

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An Iranian anti-riot police officer guards the Austrian Embassy, the country currently holds the presidency of the European Union, after protesters started a fire with firecrackers during a demonstartion over drawings of the Prophet Muhammed in European newspapers, in Tehran, Iran, Monday, Feb. 6, 2006.

[crinkler]

Can't say anything bad about this. Now only if others could do the same but that wont happen/.

[rhino]

minister of disinformation? please, if kraf is trying to disinform you he is only showing how deeply divided and diversified the Iran is, just like US or any other western country, all the sabre ratling makes people wonder about the future



nice painting

[BlackRain]

minister of disinformation? please, if kraf is trying to disinform you he is only showing how deeply divided and diversified the Iran is, just like US or any other western country, all the sabre ratling makes people wonder about the future



nice painting

I beg to differ.

You have never seen hundreds of thousands of Americans in a demonstration chanting "Death to Iran" or religious mobs attacking foreign embassies in the United States.

If the majority of Iranian's want peace and disagree with the Mullah's rule; why don't they rise up and overthrow their government. They did it before in 1979?

[crinkler]

I beg to differ.

You have never seen hundreds of thousands of Americans in a demonstration chanting "Death to Iran" or religious mobs attacking foreign embassies in the United States.

If the majority of Iranian's want peace and disagree with the Mullah's rule; why don't they rise up and overthrow their government. They did it before in 1979?
No, but at one time you did see very similar acts. But that generation grew up. And some still do that **** today.

[Fargin]

I'm very glad about the fact that I can appreciate a beautiful picture and a nice gesture. I see extremists on both sides trying to escalate the conflict and happily I also see moderate forces using this unfortunate situation to break down barriers between cultures and religions.

[BlackRain]

No, but at one time you did see very similar acts. But that generation grew up. And some still do that **** today.

Really?

Care to provide a single date or shred of evidence that their were EVER demonstrations where hundreds of thousands of Americans ever chanted "Death to Whatever" or firebombed foreign embassies in the USA.

We know you can't.

Even Sean Penn has seen the religious hatred with his own eyes.

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/08/22/dd_2_reese.jpg

Sean Penn watches Friday prayers at Tehran University in Iran from the press balcony. The service drew 10,000 worshipers and included chants of "Death to Israel" and "Death to America." Photo by Reese Erlich special to the Chronicle

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/08/22/DDGJUEAF041.DTL&o=1


Or


Mr Ahmadinejad, however, was undaunted, joining hundreds of thousands of demonstrators in Tehran to chant " Death to Israel!" and "Death to America!" It did not appear to concern him that this reinforced the image of a dangerous regime which might not shrink from using nuclear weapons once it had acquired them.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article323335.ece

[Argyll]

BlackRain,you're trolling mate,and sailing close to the wind,just a friendly bit of advice,but you're coming off as an Islamaphobe.

Civil disturbances have happened in the US,don't discount them because they have shouted for the death of someone,as for burning embassy's substitute the word embassy for Down town Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots........,where people were getting beaten up and murdered for being the wrong colour,maybe you missed the civil disturbances in New Orleans too...........a civil disturbance is a civil disturbance,irrespective if one side decides to burn down property,and bay for blood........,It's happened in the UK too,and it happened frequently in Northern Ireland,where Republicans often used to shout death chants directed at the British Monarchy......

[BlackRain]

BlackRain,you're trolling mate,and sailing close to the wind,just a friendly bit of advice,but you're coming off as an Islamaphobe.


The fact is that it never happened. You can substitute civil demonstrations against the LAPD but it never involved a foreign government nor did anyone demand the death of another country.

In none of my posts, do I ever denigrate the religion of Islam. I respect other religions and wish that they respected mine as well.

I guess by your standard any news article that accurately describes the current conditions in the middle east are Islamophobic.

Then by that standard every news media outlet reporting the attacks on internationally protected embassies are Islamophobic as well.

That is clearly not the case.

There is a war coming and some are just not picking up the signs and indications yet.

Argyll, not trying to get in a pissing match. But, how do you explain this video from yesterday where hundreds of thousands of Iranians call for "Death to Denmark"?

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1034wmv&ak=null

[Argyll]

I have to go and collect my wee lassie,I'll get back to you

[BlackRain]

I have to go and collect my wee lassie,I'll get back to you

Rodger that.

[crinkler]

Really?

Care to provide a single date or shred of evidence that their were EVER demonstrations where hundreds of thousands of Americans ever chanted "Death to Whatever" or firebombed foreign embassies in the USA.

We know you can't.

Even Sean Penn has seen the religious hatred with his own eyes.

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/08/22/dd_2_reese.jpg

Sean Penn watches Friday prayers at Tehran University in Iran from the press balcony. The service drew 10,000 worshipers and included chants of "Death to Israel" and "Death to America." Photo by Reese Erlich special to the Chronicle

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/08/22/DDGJUEAF041.DTL&o=1


Or



http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article323335.ece

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1216/riot29fr.jpg
Yeah we have had some pretty bad things happen in the states as well. Also I find it highly unlikely 100,000's protested. Do you have any idea of how many that is. Perhaps 10,000's and the media turned it 10x.

[Argyll]

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The fact is that it never happened. You can substitute civil demonstrations against the LAPD but it never involved a foreign government nor did anyone demand the death of another country.

That's very true,though I'd say these demonstrations given the size of the countrys population,does not reflect the overall feelings of their faith,the
Iranians have been protesting like this since the fall of Sha, so why are we acting all surprised about it now?


In none of my posts, do I ever denigrate the religion of Islam. I respect other religions and wish that they respected mine as well.

Then why not aknowledge that this protest is a positive one?Instead you dismissed it like you've dismissed the rest of these positive steps to quell the ill feeling

I guess by your standard any news article that accurately describes the current conditions in the middle east are Islamophobic.

No it's the responses by people here that makes me look long and hard in their views of Islam,and the countries involved,it's the style of their responses,the way in which they respond,that makes it look like they're bigots and racists.....It's the same group of people that get involved in such discussion,and they post almost identical comments in each posts,I've looked back at many people's posts,and identified certain "traits",and my assesment is borderline racists/Islamaphobes,and this site will not tolerate such people,that's been made clear on many occasions.
There is a zero tolerance here,there are very few Muslims here who have come out and said "Death to Israel/USA/Sharon/Bush",but there have been plenty coming from the opposite calling for the destruction of Islam,Iran,and it's leadership.........that's not balanced,it's racism,we should be striving to protect mankind,not inciting it's destruction,and that goes for both sides!!........I want my kids to grow up and have the same fun and excitement I've had

Then by that standard every news media outlet reporting the attacks on internationally protected embassies are Islamophobic as well.

There's a strong degree of Islamaphobia within the Western Media,this isn't about them though,this is about mp.net members,I don't give a shyte what the media says,but this site should not stoop down to the same levelsa of gutter press,the media,when they report the truth or negatives in Iraq,they're the scum of the earth,and nobody should listen to them,a week later they're reporting the Muslim world's coming to kill you,and all of a sudden,the media's the best thing since sliced bread?.....not in my books,the media has to sensationalise it's versions,to sell it on,to get ahead of their rivals.other media outlets,the more sensational the headline,the more punters will read it........it's a business,and a business built on shytting on competitors!

That is clearly not the case.

This story/article is positive,yet still the mp.net wolves run it down,because it goes against what they've been brought up to believe,closed minds are just as dangerous as radical minds!!

There is a war coming and some are just not picking up the signs and indications yet.

Get down to your local recruitting office,and spend time in the service being prepared then,there's been a war going on within Religion since the birth of Christ,and it's all bollocks,so General,what should the public do about this war?........I don't see many people standing in the queues citing their reasons for joining as "I'm here to fight the Muslim hoardes about to Invade our lands"........

Argyll, not trying to get in a pissing match. But, how do you explain this video from yesterday where hundreds of thousands of Iranians call for "Death to Denmark"?

You reap what you sow,the Danes with their cartoons have accelerated,and added to the already volatile situation in the Middle East,they should have known better......In my opinion,they made a huge mistake underestimating the backlash it would cause,sure the responses from those protesting, leave a lot to be desired,but they played right into the hands of the extremists,and they've scored a massive media victory,they're getting their points across,and are recieving huge media interests...........if there were no media there to report what's happening,then the rest of the world more than likely would not hear about the violence,the violence was orchestrated because they knew it would be beamed across the world,into every single house with access to TV,media manipulation at it's best..........and the West was suckered right in,and the extremists played the media at their own game.....the rest of the world has stood still,becuase the entire focus of the worlds media is centred on these Disturbances........I consider the whole thing a masterstroke for the Muslim's across the globe........they've succeeded in being the focal point of attention on a Global scale,and we've been suckered into how they've dictated and manipulated the terms!

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1034wmv&ak=null

[BlackRain]

Get down to your local recruitting office,and spend time in the service being prepared then,there's been a war going on within Religion since the birth of Christ,and it's all bollocks,so General,what should the public do about this war?........I don't see many people standing in the queues citing their reasons for joining as "I'm here to fight the Muslim hoardes about to Invade our lands"........

I already served my time in the USMC, if need be I would definitely go if called up.

However, that's not the war I am alluding to. Iran will not be allowed by the international community to have nuclear weapons. They are entitled to and allowed to have peaceful nuclear power but not weapons.

They have demonstrated that they can not even respect simple international laws by safeguarding the sanctity of European embassies this past week. An attack on those embassies is essentially an attack on those countries by proxy.

The ones guilty of religious intolerance, racism, and bigotry are not Europe or America. The concept of 'infidel' is alien to us. Merely possessing a bible can result in your death.

In the west you can practice your religion and speak what is on your mind. You can emigrate here if your are Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or Hindu. Not so in other countries you so vigorously defend.

[Argyll]

Is that why there are Christian Churches in Iraq?

I live in a country where wearing the wrong colour of football top can result in your death.....

Let the Middle Eastern countries exert pressure on Iran,after all,it's ultimately them who will feel the effects of the attack on Iran......there's plenty of time left for diplomacy.....but Bush doesn't have time,his popularity is on a downwards trend......If the US attacks Iran,and it goes horribly wrong,and he does so with out International/UN backing,I hope he is held accountable for his actions in a court of Law......Just like Saddam is being held accountable for his attacks on Hallajah.
There's a lot worse than the Iranians out there,who already have the technology,and who already have Islamist extremists in their midst,and who also harbour Terrorists............and they're recieving thousands of Muslims into their country each year to have their minds radicalised......and yet Iran is the big issue?...........The Pakistani's are clever,keep your friends close,but your enemies closer

[kraf001]

I am minister of disinformation now ha? well at least I am not a lowlife who needs to change the headline of news to push his agenda!

this event happened and I had the pictures to prove it.. 70 ppl attacked French embassy and 300 hundred ppl to Danish embassy... I am not denying it one bit BUT if 300 ppl did actually attack embassy in Tehran it means more than 10 million Muslims didn't... now explain this how does 300 extremist deserve all that media attention and not the millions who didn't attend the protests or moderates like this artist?

"Death to America" is nothing new in Iran.. however "Death to Americans" actually never happened in Iran... funny you quote Sean Penn I recommend everyone to read Sean Penn's diary in Iran and see how non existence the hatred BlackRain is talking about, he even meets with Khomeini’s grand son... it's not about singular quotes you distracted from the report if your intention is to show the truth why not post the whole thing... after that you can read the FOX news special on Iran, then go to Kevin Sites and read his report from Iran.. then there is the CNN one and after that ABC one.. all of them are proof that "death to America" has nothing to do with American ppl..

I have already addressed reasons for existence of such symbolic notion in Iran:





"Death to America" became symbolic in Iran because of America's involvement with some very negative historical events in Iran such as
the coup (http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-chapter3.html), the airliner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655), Saddam (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/), Savak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK), MEK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen_al-Khalq) ,etc...

it is not against the American ppl at all as we had enough Americans in Iran to bring death to and we have enough Iranians in America to bring death to Americans in America... I don't agree with Ahmadinejad often but he is right associating "death to America" to the American government... go to Yahoo news and search for "Iran".. all the news pieces coming up will use the word "Iran" instead of "Iranian government" or the person who did/said the thing... for example they use Ahmadinejad's words and make head line like "Iran: "West can't do anything""... this is exactly the same deal!

[Clarsachier]

Thanks for that article. It deserves to be seen. No one here in the U.S. would've seen it if you hadn't posted it.