View Full Version : JTF-2 in Haiti
kutter
02-29-2004, 11:23 PM
Saw this in another forum, thought it would be of interest.
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 29: A Canadian soldier stands guard in front of the airport February 29, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Violence erupted throughout Port-au-Prince after President Jean-Bertrand Aristide fled the country. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026583.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE51225451233E9905516144CC0699EA33
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Canadian special forces help Canadian citizens at the airport in Port-au-Prince 29 February 2004 to depart the country on a special Canadian Air Force flight. Angry mobs rampaged through the Haitian capital after President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country, leaving smoke billowing over the city and at least 10 dead. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026578.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF900B107BF56D8226
PORT AU PRINCE, HAITI: Canadian special forces help Canadians citizens to get into the airport in Port-au-Prince 29 February 2004 to leave the country on a special Canadian Air Force flight. Angry mobs rampaged through the Haitian capital after President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country, leaving smoke billowing over the city and at least 10 dead. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026576.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF5840BAA38CECB0E1
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: A Canadian special forces soldier guards the airport in Port-au-Prince 29 February 2004 for as special Canadian Air Force flight prepares to return Canadians citizens to their country. Angry mobs rampaged through the Haitian capital after President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country, leaving smoke billowing over the city and at least 10 dead. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026572.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB966AEADA6F95476
EvanL
02-29-2004, 11:31 PM
What does it say on his hat?
Looks like it may be an airborne regiment thing.
[AFSOC]
02-29-2004, 11:33 PM
YEa it does....it'd make sense too if it was
He219
02-29-2004, 11:38 PM
A couple more from Today's Pics:
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027274.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF7E37CDAF3A7672E4
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: A Canadian soldier rides a small vehicle before US marines on the tarmac of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026487.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB92AFEF8F559D79A
PORT AU PRINCE, HAITI: A Canadian special forces soldier guards an entrance at the airport in Port-au-Prince 29 February 2004. At least 10 people were killed 29 February 2004 as violence erupted following the sudden resignation and departure into exile of Haitian president Jean Betrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026654.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF1C8ABE8A7E023766
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Canadian special forces help Canadian citizens into the airport in Port-au-Prince 29 February 2004 to leave the country on a special Canadian Air Force flight. Angry mobs rampaged through the Haitian capital after President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country, leaving smoke billowing over the city and at least 10 dead. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040229/i/r2334222110.jpg
A Canadian soldier guards his country's embassy prior to an evacuation of personnel in Port-au-Prince after Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide left the country in Port au Prince, February 29, 2004. Aristide, who resigned in the face of an armed revolt, was traveling to Morocco on Sunday, the Haitian consul in neighboring Dominican Republic said. *******/Daniel Morel
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/r196098699.jpg
A Canadian forces soldier cools off by pouring water on his head while on guard duty at Port-au-Prince's airport, Haiti, following the departure of Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide, February 29, 2004. Rebel patrols, joined by police, chased down armed supporters of Aristide, who stepped down today after an armed rebellion took control of half the country. *******/Daniel Aguilar
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/ra1157968195.jpg
A Canadian forces soldier stands guard at the airport in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, following the departure of Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide, February 29, 2004. Rebel patrols, joined by police, chased down armed supporters of President Jean Bertrand Aristide, who stepped down today after an armed rebellion took control of half the country. Photo by Daniel Aguilar
EvanL
02-29-2004, 11:39 PM
Damn. Those guys get to have all the fun.
[AFSOC]
02-29-2004, 11:41 PM
Them Canucks are prolly all from ontario.....
The heat must be killing them lol..
Its getting warm tho in Ontario :)
He219
02-29-2004, 11:44 PM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026495.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF63BFAE3D9184E15A
PORT AU PRINCE, HAITI: A man displays a picture of departed Haitian president Jean Bertrand Aristide 29 February 2004 in Port-au-Prince. At least 10 people were killed 29 February 2004 as violence erupted following the sudden resignation and departure into exile of Aristide. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026685.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF6E0F0FCDFFF66F1F
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Canadian special forces talk with Hiatian police 29 February 2004 at Port-au-Prince airport 29 February 2004 where a special Canadian Air Force flight will return Canadian citizens home. Angry mobs rampaged through the Haitian capital after President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country, leaving smoke billowing over the city and at least 10 dead. AFP PHOTO/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)
memphiz
02-29-2004, 11:46 PM
DAMN. JTF-2 are bad ass, thanks for the pics kutter and He219, these pics are great thanks again
He219
02-29-2004, 11:47 PM
What's that ' small vehicle ' on the tarmac?
:D
scm77
02-29-2004, 11:49 PM
If you look at the "small vehicle" in the background, it kind looks like one of those john deer 4x4 atv things. The one in the foreground is too hard to tell if it is the same vehicle but it looks close.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
02-29-2004, 11:50 PM
What's that ' small vehicle ' on the tarmac?
:D
Looks like some sorta beefed up quad. woot
My buddy has one but not as many bushbar's on it :P
memphiz
02-29-2004, 11:51 PM
What's that ' small vehicle ' on the tarmac?
:D
it looks like an ATV with amour on it, and a roll cage
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027274.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF7E37CDAF3A7672E4
i found some
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/atv_unload-001.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/atv_020717_06.jpg
OzMan
03-01-2004, 12:06 AM
On pic #4 from He219:
Anyone think that pistol is mounted a little high? I can't imagine that being a comfortable draw, especially without smacking yourself in the face...
marty649
03-01-2004, 01:39 AM
Yah..... he looks to be a MP, not jtf2, dont think they would be doing that
He219
03-01-2004, 01:45 AM
Pic's 4 & 5 show the new vest. It's appears to be modular and the pistol could be mounted anywhere on the vest the wearer chooses ...
Background information on JTF-2 can be found HERE (http://www.forces.gc.ca/dcds/units/jtf2/default_e.asp).
http://www.forces.gc.ca/dcds/units/jtf2/images/JTF_06_TN2.jpg
Larger (http://www.forces.gc.ca/dcds/units/jtf2/pages/galleryPic06_e.asp)
Yard Ape
03-01-2004, 01:56 AM
Pic's 4 & 5 show the new vest. It's appears to be modular and the pistol could be mounted anywhere on the vest the wearer chooses ...I have the new vest and it is not in any of those pictures. Those two are wearing something different.
http://www.army.gc.ca/Chief_Land_Staff/Clothe_the_soldier/hab/images/items/TactVest/TactVest12_b.jpg
He219
03-01-2004, 02:06 AM
It's a different vest (similar to the Spitfire modular armor system) and not the standard 'Tactical Vest' (http://www.army.dnd.ca/lf/English/2_3.asp) ..
;)
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
03-01-2004, 03:06 AM
http://www.sealsactiongear.com/
Check this site out, the've been making custom vests for the Canadian army.
SEALS CADPAT® Battle Vest. Another item that started off as a custom project for serving members of the Canadian Forces, and soon became so popular that we put it into production as a stocked item, is the Battle Vest. Based loosely on the British Royal Marines' Battle Vest, but built on a mesh "frame" instead of webbing, it has the following features:
- (4) M16 mag pouches, holding four magazines each, front and centre
- (2) C9 200rd-drum pouches (will also hold 2qt canteen), on the sides
- (2) Utility pouches, mounted on the side of the C9 pouches
- MOLLE compatible system on chest and back
- D-rings along the bottom to hang the CF Gas Mask Carrier or other accessories, on both sides
- Zippered inside map pockets on both sides in the front
- Camelbak sleeve in the rear panel
- Adjustable for height and girth
- Attachment points for additional gear throughout
- Rescue handle between the shoulders
The MOLLE system on the chest and back allow for attaching removable pouches for mission specific purposes. With a Recce Butt Pack mounted low on the back, there is still enough room for an assault pack, or even a second Recce Butt Pack. (Accessory pouches shown on right not included) Whichever way you configure this vest, it will prove its versatility in the field. Also available in Black, OD or Jungle Stalker.
Thats the one I think your talking about. Feel free to correct me if im wrong...i dont know how to post the pictures.
They also make another one in CADPAT, as you many not know there is a copywrite on it. So only a few manufacture's make legitimate CADPAT gear, this site is one of those. This might also help....
SEALS Modular Load Bearing Vest. This incredibly versatile load bearing vest started off as a custom project for a police agency, but became very popular and was quickly incorporated in our regular product line. This vest is equipped with 2” bandoleers on the front and back to allow for the mounting of an unlimited variety of pouches in any configuration. Whether using MOLLE, ALICE clips, zap straps or other attachment method, a more modular vest simply does not exist! Zippers on the inside allow access to the large inside (map) pockets in the front, while a hydration pouch in the back allows for carrying a Camelbak or other hydration system. Belt keepers all around allow incorporation of a duty belt, increasing the load carrying capacity even further. Fully adjustable for height and girth. Available in Black and OD. (Pictured on right equiped with MOLLE pouches in CADPAT, sold seperately below)
Yard Ape
03-01-2004, 03:23 AM
http://www.sealsactiongear.com/IMAGES/products/load_bearing_gear/TAC-V1-N.jpg looks like this guy: http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/ra1157968195.jpg
But I don't see the vest this guy has: http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040229/i/r2334222110.jpg
(actually, it looks more like a bib)
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/ra1157968195.jpg
Paraclete RAV.
http://www.specwargear.com/images/Armor&vest-RAV%20OD-3.jpg
fokket
03-01-2004, 05:56 AM
Without getting detailed,
The Canadian RAV is slightly diff from standard RAV..
(more like commo RAV)
andyboy
03-01-2004, 12:34 PM
Buddy wearing CADPAT and a helmet has his armour on backwards :roll: , I imagine he isn't JTF2.
scm77
03-01-2004, 12:55 PM
Buddy wearing CADPAT and a helmet has his armour on backwards :roll: , I imagine he isn't JTF2.
He isn't JTF2!?!?! Thank you anyboy. That one really had me stumped. :cantbeli:
Sabre
03-01-2004, 12:55 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040229/i/r2334222110.jpg
andyboy wrote:
Buddy wearing CADPAT and a helmet has his armour on backwards , I imagine he isn't JTF2.
:cantbeli: Doh! That would explain the puzzled expression on his face then.
andyboy
03-01-2004, 12:59 PM
I guess I forgot what site I was posting on, everyone here knows everything. :roll:
Uncle Sam
03-01-2004, 01:10 PM
Those are some good pics.
lt_poncho
03-01-2004, 03:37 PM
I would imagine they're MP's out of St. Jean, Quebec and not JTF2 - the official language of Haiti is French - i'd wager they would want their troops to understand or at least be proficiently bilingual.
Spearin
03-01-2004, 04:26 PM
That little vehicle is probably an ATV (Quad). During a Stalwart Guardian (Area training exercise) at Petawawa August 2003, a bunch of guys (not sure who exactly, maybe Armoured Recce) were scooting around on ATVs.
Double Tap
03-01-2004, 08:42 PM
http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-612503.jpg?size=67&uid={9c24de53-24d4-4a68-a0bd-80f73a1bfd67}
That little vehicle is probably an ATV (Quad). During a Stalwart Guardian (Area training exercise) at Petawawa August 2003, a bunch of guys (not sure who exactly, maybe Armoured Recce) were scooting around on ATVs.
http://army.ca/cgi-bin/album.pl?photo=Vehicles/Canadian/ATV_Coyote.jpg
MapleLeafInfantry
03-01-2004, 10:36 PM
http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-612503.jpg?size=67&uid={9c24de53-24d4-4a68-a0bd-80f73a1bfd67}
HAH!, it looks like buddy has been a little too close to the OPFOR in a simunition match!
mli
Some Guy
03-01-2004, 10:38 PM
http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-612503.jpg?size=67&uid={9c24de53-24d4-4a68-a0bd-80f73a1bfd67}
Insight Technologies LAM on the RAS. The LCF is high in this one. Back me up on that Lightfighters..
lt_poncho
03-01-2004, 11:14 PM
Insight Technologies LAM on the RAS. The LCF is high in this one. Back me up on that Lightfighters..
EO Tech Holosight on top of the RAS, and that Insight Tech LAM is made for a pistol - those guys all have the same guns it seems.
scm77
03-01-2004, 11:29 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/ra1157968195.jpg
That picture is awesome. It was on the front page of some paper here in jumbo size woot.
Those JTF-2 guys are badass
marty649
03-02-2004, 02:04 AM
These are first operational pics we've really had of these guys minus the one where they are hauling off the al-qeuda dudes during anaconda.
Spearin
03-02-2004, 07:40 AM
HAH!, it looks like buddy has been a little too close to the OPFOR in a simunition match!
mli
LOL! You're right! :lol:
andyrew_21
03-02-2004, 01:57 PM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026487.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB92AFEF8F559D79A Showing his face is a real no-no. someone should have blacked it out.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026583.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE51225451233E9905516144CC0699EA33 This guy is BADASS
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
03-02-2004, 02:03 PM
Showing his face is a real no-no. someone should have blacked it out.
I agree, but anyone stupid enough to mess with these guys/confront them on the street deserves a real good **** kicking and I'm sure they would be more then happy to give em one.
EvanL
03-02-2004, 05:45 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040302/i/r3915335424.jpg
A Canadian special force soldier puts up a sign including his nation's flag at Port-au-Prince airport March 2, 2004. U.S. Marines began patrolling the capital today in the first international effort to quell violence that surrounded the departure of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. *******/Andrew Winning
We shall crush the enemy with our arses of steel. :D
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040302/i/r1365638168.jpg
Canadian special forces put up a sign including their country's flag at Port-au-Prince airport, March 2, 2004. U.S. Marines began patrolling the capital today in the first international effort to quell violence that surrounded the departure of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. *******/Andrew Winning
Shaynelle
03-03-2004, 01:50 AM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026572.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB966AEADA6F95476
If you look quickly, (very quickly), this guy looks like a tourist standing outside the airport.
irra!
03-03-2004, 04:27 AM
new pic:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040301/capt.xrm10703011554.haiti_uprising_xrm107.jpg
Col. Daniel Leplatois of the French Antilles Army, second from left, points at a map of Port-au-Prince, the capital of Haiti as he talks with an unidentified colonel of the US Marines, second right, and Canadian special forces officer at the Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Monday, March 1, 2004. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)
Seraphim
03-03-2004, 09:08 AM
new pic:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040301/capt.xrm10703011554.haiti_uprising_xrm107.jpg
Col. Daniel Leplatois of the French Antilles Army, second from left, points at a map of Port-au-Prince, the capital of Haiti as he talks with an unidentified colonel of the US Marines, second right, and Canadian special forces officer at the Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Monday, March 1, 2004. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)
All the pics you are posting arent new.
Ice14
03-04-2004, 12:15 AM
Great pictures... couple points to make though.
-The Mod vest some of the guys are wearing is not from Seals Action Gear. The ones on sealsactiongear.com are Alice compatible, these ones are snap with hook and loop. I don't know what they are... but I'd sure like to find out if they were a personal choice or if DND bought a few.
-Buddy walking around with his pistol on his left chest isn't doing anything wrong. Think of why police carry hip holsters.
-Finally... these guys might not be JTF. They could just be from a recce unit. Chances are against that, judging by their kit... but you never know. Either way, Opsec is pretty crucial for these guys... I think they deserve a little more help from us.
Figured I'd let my opinion be known. And yes, they do look ultra cool. Damn sexy if i might add ;)
ogukuo72
03-04-2004, 01:52 AM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026572.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB966AEADA6F95476
If you look quickly, (very quickly), this guy looks like a tourist standing outside the airport.
A DiemacoC8CQB?
irra!
03-04-2004, 03:20 AM
new pic:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040301/capt.xrm10703011554.haiti_uprising_xrm107.jpg
Col. Daniel Leplatois of the French Antilles Army, second from left, points at a map of Port-au-Prince, the capital of Haiti as he talks with an unidentified colonel of the US Marines, second right, and Canadian special forces officer at the Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Monday, March 1, 2004. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)
All the pics you are posting arent new.
what pictures and where? because i haven't see before :roll:
stuntman
03-04-2004, 04:46 AM
This guy is wearing the body armor correct, it's just if you have ever been to that country it is hot as hell so he--->http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040229/i/r2334222110.jpg has it open.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/r196098699.jpg The CSF body armor is made by pointblank who also makes our interceptor. I think this vest is called a spiderhttp://www.pointblankarmor.com/tactical/spider.jpg
but the vest that CF are wearing are most likely exclusively made for for Canadian sf.
andyboy
03-04-2004, 08:54 AM
Stuntman, you are incorrect on both points.
1.He is indeed wearing it backwards. The black strap you see running just under his neck is a drag handle.
2.The vest is a Canadian design (as are all the vests/lbvs except the Paraclete RAV) and is certainle not the vest you have posted there.
fokket
03-04-2004, 09:16 AM
Their RAVs are basically commo RAV with some webbing around chest are for routing commo wires and such
They also had customed pouches.. padded upright GP ... and some
Distraction device pouches.
Their groin guard had PALS webbings on it too, as they tend to
carry sticks on it.
Yes, I have seen that in person.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/r196098699.jpg
I'm special because I drink the same water as the CSF (nestle aberfoyle).
Argyll
03-04-2004, 02:50 PM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026572.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB966AEADA6F95476
If you look quickly, (very quickly), this guy looks like a tourist standing outside the airport.
Tooled up the norm for tourists these days? ;)
TALOS
03-04-2004, 03:00 PM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3026572.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB966AEADA6F95476
If you look quickly, (very quickly), this guy looks like a tourist standing outside the airport.
Tooled up the norm for tourists these days? ;)
HAHA, I think he meant looking quick and trying to disregard the guns he doesnt look all that different then the tourists who have camera bags and frs's and all that crap when they travel.
Argyll
03-04-2004, 03:20 PM
I've tried my hardest to look qick,but these trained eyes focus on the weapon.Webbing and radio......... ;) I guess for someone who's never been in the Armed Forces might be fooled....... ;)
Ice14
03-04-2004, 07:13 PM
Looks like guy there wearing his "armour" backwards is simply wearing a chest rig. I don't see any armour on the sides. Modular trauma plate maybe? Lemme know if I'm wrong and just made myself look like an utter idiot.
simple jumper
03-04-2004, 07:50 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/i/r196098699.jpg
What I find ineterresting is that his vest is custom made in CADPAT. That suer as hell isn't an issued item to the CF. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of 'em. :P
simple jumper
03-04-2004, 07:58 PM
Great pictures... couple points to make though.
-The Mod vest some of the guys are wearing is not from Seals Action Gear. The ones on sealsactiongear.com are Alice compatible, these ones are snap with hook and loop. I don't know what they are... but I'd sure like to find out if they were a personal choice or if DND bought a few.
-Buddy walking around with his pistol on his left chest isn't doing anything wrong. Think of why police carry hip holsters.
-Finally... these guys might not be JTF. They could just be from a recce unit. Chances are against that, judging by their kit... but you never know. Either way, Opsec is pretty crucial for these guys... I think they deserve a little more help from us.
Figured I'd let my opinion be known. And yes, they do look ultra cool. Damn sexy if i might add ;)
The dude with the open flak vest is obviously not JTF2.
He looks like a french Canadian which makes sense, since R22eR are on ROTO in Afghanistan right now. And I'm not suprised if they sent a couple of them along with JTF2 to Haiti, since JTF2 is everywhere we send our guys. the rest are JTF2 for sure...possible reasons:
-painted weapons aren't appreciated by normal recce units or any unit for that matter apart from JTF2
-the tan pants they wear appear to be the old CF combat pants issued for Somalia which were all given to JTF2 after the disbandment of the CAR.
-JTF2's job is to protect VIPs. Embassies have VIPs, so it makes sense they send them to protect the canadian diplomats and what not.
just my 2 cents
budanski
03-04-2004, 10:31 PM
I've tried my hardest to look qick,but these trained eyes focus on the weapon.Webbing and radio......... ;) I guess for someone who's never been in the Armed Forces might be fooled....... ;)
Its great that you guys pointed that out. I mistook him for a Texan gun show attendee.
[AFSOC]
03-04-2004, 10:40 PM
Great pictures... couple points to make though.
-The Mod vest some of the guys are wearing is not from Seals Action Gear. The ones on sealsactiongear.com are Alice compatible, these ones are snap with hook and loop. I don't know what they are... but I'd sure like to find out if they were a personal choice or if DND bought a few.
-Buddy walking around with his pistol on his left chest isn't doing anything wrong. Think of why police carry hip holsters.
-Finally... these guys might not be JTF. They could just be from a recce unit. Chances are against that, judging by their kit... but you never know. Either way, Opsec is pretty crucial for these guys... I think they deserve a little more help from us.
Figured I'd let my opinion be known. And yes, they do look ultra cool. Damn sexy if i might add ;)
The dude with the open flak vest is obviously not JTF2.
He looks like a french Canadian which makes sense, since R22eR are on ROTO in Afghanistan right now. And I'm not suprised if they sent a couple of them along with JTF2 to Haiti, since JTF2 is everywhere we send our guys. the rest are JTF2 for sure...possible reasons:
-painted weapons aren't appreciated by normal recce units or any unit for that matter apart from JTF2
-the tan pants they wear appear to be the old CF combat pants issued for Somalia which were all given to JTF2 after the disbandment of the CAR.
-JTF2's job is to protect VIPs. Embassies have VIPs, so it makes sense they send them to protect the canadian diplomats and what not.
just my 2 cents
WHOA BUDDY!
Protecting VIP's is ONE OF JTF-2's JOBS, they have many various jobs. Remember JTF-2 is ARMY, NAVY and AIRFORCE.
I dont know where you got the idea of Canadian Forces in TAN fatigues in Somalia, cuz every video i've seen of CF's that were Somalia wore norma green army fatigues.
If you listened to the news at all in CAnada, the guys there right now are of 2RCR and JTF2 members.
Morpheus32
03-05-2004, 12:34 AM
Some serious armchair warrior stuff on the go here. People making some judgemental statements on stuff they know little about. I especially like the fashion concerns and the soldier with his stuff on backwards.....
For the record, there was a limited issue of an trial tan combat in the same cut as the OD combats in Somalia. They were initially issued one set to everyone but they fit so badly that in the end there was just enough for a single Commando. In this case 2 Commando was issued the complete combat in tan. I was in HQ Commando at the time.
Jeff
Ice14
03-05-2004, 02:06 AM
I agree with Morpheus, if he does have the vest on backwards... I'm sure its backwards for a reason. Doesn't stop me from wondering what vest it is though, and why he has it. As for determining the unit by BDU's and weapon colour, too broad of an area to discuss. Hell, it could be a bunch of airsofters dressed up. But yes, there is an awful lot of debate going on over a few pictures. I shall leave this alone.
andyboy
03-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Why is it so hard to accept it's on backwards? Geez you guys kill me. I only mentioned it because it's interesting is all. My guess would be that he's an MP stationed at the Embassy and he's wearing a loaner from the "visiting" unit. Not a big deal, not a criticism, nothing, just an observation.
How do I know? I designed that vest as well as the chest rigs and one of the lbvs you see in those pics.
pkneeyahx
03-24-2004, 07:24 AM
http://www.sealsactiongear.com/
Check this site out, the've been making custom vests for the Canadian army.
SEALS CADPAT® Battle Vest. Another item that started off as a custom project for serving members of the Canadian Forces, and soon became so popular that we put it into production as a stocked item, is the Battle Vest. Based loosely on the British Royal Marines' Battle Vest, but built on a mesh "frame" instead of webbing, it has the following features:
- (4) M16 mag pouches, holding four magazines each, front and centre
- (2) C9 200rd-drum pouches (will also hold 2qt canteen), on the sides
- (2) Utility pouches, mounted on the side of the C9 pouches
- MOLLE compatible system on chest and back
- D-rings along the bottom to hang the CF Gas Mask Carrier or other accessories, on both sides
- Zippered inside map pockets on both sides in the front
- Camelbak sleeve in the rear panel
- Adjustable for height and girth
- Attachment points for additional gear throughout
- Rescue handle between the shoulders
The MOLLE system on the chest and back allow for attaching removable pouches for mission specific purposes. With a Recce Butt Pack mounted low on the back, there is still enough room for an assault pack, or even a second Recce Butt Pack. (Accessory pouches shown on right not included) Whichever way you configure this vest, it will prove its versatility in the field. Also available in Black, OD or Jungle Stalker.
Thats the one I think your talking about. Feel free to correct me if im wrong...i dont know how to post the pictures.
They also make another one in CADPAT, as you many not know there is a copywrite on it. So only a few manufacture's make legitimate CADPAT gear, this site is one of those. This might also help....
SEALS Modular Load Bearing Vest. This incredibly versatile load bearing vest started off as a custom project for a police agency, but became very popular and was quickly incorporated in our regular product line. This vest is equipped with 2” bandoleers on the front and back to allow for the mounting of an unlimited variety of pouches in any configuration. Whether using MOLLE, ALICE clips, zap straps or other attachment method, a more modular vest simply does not exist! Zippers on the inside allow access to the large inside (map) pockets in the front, while a hydration pouch in the back allows for carrying a Camelbak or other hydration system. Belt keepers all around allow incorporation of a duty belt, increasing the load carrying capacity even further. Fully adjustable for height and girth. Available in Black and OD. (Pictured on right equiped with MOLLE pouches in CADPAT, sold seperately below)
If I'm not mistaken, CADPAT stands for Canadian Disruptive Pattern, how can you call it SEAL CADPAT? Read here for some background info;
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=341
http://www.sealsactiongear.com/
Check this site out, the've been making custom vests for the Canadian army.
SEALS CADPAT® Battle Vest. Another item that started off as a custom project for serving members of the Canadian Forces, and soon became so popular that we put it into production as a stocked item, is the Battle Vest. Based loosely on the British Royal Marines' Battle Vest, but built on a mesh "frame" instead of webbing, it has the following features:
- (4) M16 mag pouches, holding four magazines each, front and centre
- (2) C9 200rd-drum pouches (will also hold 2qt canteen), on the sides
- (2) Utility pouches, mounted on the side of the C9 pouches
- MOLLE compatible system on chest and back
- D-rings along the bottom to hang the CF Gas Mask Carrier or other accessories, on both sides
- Zippered inside map pockets on both sides in the front
- Camelbak sleeve in the rear panel
- Adjustable for height and girth
- Attachment points for additional gear throughout
- Rescue handle between the shoulders
The MOLLE system on the chest and back allow for attaching removable pouches for mission specific purposes. With a Recce Butt Pack mounted low on the back, there is still enough room for an assault pack, or even a second Recce Butt Pack. (Accessory pouches shown on right not included) Whichever way you configure this vest, it will prove its versatility in the field. Also available in Black, OD or Jungle Stalker.
Thats the one I think your talking about. Feel free to correct me if im wrong...i dont know how to post the pictures.
They also make another one in CADPAT, as you many not know there is a copywrite on it. So only a few manufacture's make legitimate CADPAT gear, this site is one of those. This might also help....
SEALS Modular Load Bearing Vest. This incredibly versatile load bearing vest started off as a custom project for a police agency, but became very popular and was quickly incorporated in our regular product line. This vest is equipped with 2” bandoleers on the front and back to allow for the mounting of an unlimited variety of pouches in any configuration. Whether using MOLLE, ALICE clips, zap straps or other attachment method, a more modular vest simply does not exist! Zippers on the inside allow access to the large inside (map) pockets in the front, while a hydration pouch in the back allows for carrying a Camelbak or other hydration system. Belt keepers all around allow incorporation of a duty belt, increasing the load carrying capacity even further. Fully adjustable for height and girth. Available in Black and OD. (Pictured on right equiped with MOLLE pouches in CADPAT, sold seperately below)
If I'm not mistaken, CADPAT stands for Canadian Disruptive Pattern, how can you call it SEAL CADPAT? Read here for some background info;
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=341
Uhh.. The company is named SEALS Action Gear, it has nothing to do with the american units.
redhawk_six
03-25-2004, 02:00 AM
http://www.sealsactiongear.com/
Check this site out, the've been making custom vests for the Canadian army.
SEALS CADPAT® Battle Vest. Another item that started off as a custom project for serving members of the Canadian Forces, and soon became so popular that we put it into production as a stocked item, is the Battle Vest. Based loosely on the British Royal Marines' Battle Vest, but built on a mesh "frame" instead of webbing, it has the following features:
- (4) M16 mag pouches, holding four magazines each, front and centre
- (2) C9 200rd-drum pouches (will also hold 2qt canteen), on the sides
- (2) Utility pouches, mounted on the side of the C9 pouches
- MOLLE compatible system on chest and back
- D-rings along the bottom to hang the CF Gas Mask Carrier or other accessories, on both sides
- Zippered inside map pockets on both sides in the front
- Camelbak sleeve in the rear panel
- Adjustable for height and girth
- Attachment points for additional gear throughout
- Rescue handle between the shoulders
The MOLLE system on the chest and back allow for attaching removable pouches for mission specific purposes. With a Recce Butt Pack mounted low on the back, there is still enough room for an assault pack, or even a second Recce Butt Pack. (Accessory pouches shown on right not included) Whichever way you configure this vest, it will prove its versatility in the field. Also available in Black, OD or Jungle Stalker.
Thats the one I think your talking about. Feel free to correct me if im wrong...i dont know how to post the pictures.
They also make another one in CADPAT, as you many not know there is a copywrite on it. So only a few manufacture's make legitimate CADPAT gear, this site is one of those. This might also help....
SEALS Modular Load Bearing Vest. This incredibly versatile load bearing vest started off as a custom project for a police agency, but became very popular and was quickly incorporated in our regular product line. This vest is equipped with 2” bandoleers on the front and back to allow for the mounting of an unlimited variety of pouches in any configuration. Whether using MOLLE, ALICE clips, zap straps or other attachment method, a more modular vest simply does not exist! Zippers on the inside allow access to the large inside (map) pockets in the front, while a hydration pouch in the back allows for carrying a Camelbak or other hydration system. Belt keepers all around allow incorporation of a duty belt, increasing the load carrying capacity even further. Fully adjustable for height and girth. Available in Black and OD. (Pictured on right equiped with MOLLE pouches in CADPAT, sold seperately below)
If I'm not mistaken, CADPAT stands for Canadian Disruptive Pattern, how can you call it SEAL CADPAT? Read here for some background info;
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=341
You dug this up for that bull****!? Did you even look at the site!? If you had, you'd see that he means Seal as a reffrence to the canadian surplus store, Seals Action Gear. More reading, common sense, and thinking, less grave digging, moron.
pkneeyahx
04-05-2004, 09:08 AM
huh? moron? whatever.. mr high and mighty.
Thomsen
04-05-2004, 09:27 AM
it looks like an ATV with amour on it, and a roll cage
More like some kind of platform for load bearing e.g.
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