Iran open to helping Venezuela nuclear program

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Iran open to helping Venezuela nuclear program





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CARACAS, Venezuela - Iran is open to helping Venezuela develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, but the two OPEC members have not yet held talks about such cooperation, an Iranian lawmaker said on Wednesday. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, an ardent critic of the U.S. government, is backing Iran's right to develop nuclear fuel despite international community opposition to Tehran pursuing its atomic program.
"Although we have not had any conversations until now with Venezuelan authorities, we would be willing to study the possibility," Iran's parliament speaker, Gholamali Haddadadel, said when asked by reporters in Caracas whether Tehran could offer cooperation to Venezuela.
Venezuela, the world's No. 5 oil exporter, last year said it was interested in developing nuclear technology with the possible help of Argentina, Brazil or Iran for civilian energy and medical purposes.
Venezuela had a small research reactor that was closed more than a decade ago and is now used for food irradiation and sterilization. Experts say nuclear development could take Venezuela as long as 10 years of investment and training.
The Iranian delegation visiting Venezuela to boost ties between the two nations signed a joint statement ratifying "the right of all nations to make peaceful use nuclear energy" and condemned the "imperialism" of foreign powers.
Iran on Tuesday confirmed that it had restarted uranium enrichment that it insists will only be used for peaceful civilian purposes despite U.S. and European fears that the technology would be used to create nuclear weapons.
Venezuela joined Syria and Cuba this month at the International Atomic Energy Agency in opposing the U.N. watchdog's decision to send the Iran nuclear energy dispute to the U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions.
Chavez's growing ties to Iran have only made Washington more wary of the former army colonel turned populist president, whom the U.S. accuses of using the nation's oil wealth to destabilize democracy in the region.
The Venezuelan leader counters that the United States is meddling in democracies in the region, and accuses the U.S. State Department of sponsoring a brief coup against him in 2002. He has promised a socialist revolution to end poverty and promote the integration of Latin American nations.


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Iran is doing a good job at this Nuke game.

[melon]

Iran is doing a good job at this Nuke game.

An Iranian nuke is one thing, a nuclear armed Chavez is a different story. No sitting President would even allow this to happen, Democrat or Republican. Oil or no oil, the US will not allow another tin pot dictator to posses such weapons right on our back door.

Venezuela isn't much more flight time from the US than Cuba is. In 1962, we were willing to wage all out and total nuclear war with the Soviets over a few missiles deployed on Cuban soil. An antagonistic, socialist revolutionary armed with nuclear weapons is not something we will tolerate in our hemisphere.

Call us bullies, call us warmongers who only believe in war to settle issues, whatever, it will not be allowed.

[Ea$y-8]

Venezuela is much to dangerous to handle nukes as is Iran. But Venezuela with nukes is 10 times worse than a nuclear Iran. Because it is right on our door step and has a crazy dictator in power. Chavez see's himself as a great hero and champion for Latin America and thinks that the US is a evil demon who oppresses them and wants to do us harm to get what he see's as revenge.

[Kilgor]

Just like Iran, they desire nuclear power because they are so obviously so short on fossil fuels to burn. :roll:

[moughoun]

Venezuela is much to dangerous to handle nukes as is Iran. But Venezuela with nukes is 10 times worse than a nuclear Iran. Because it is right on our door step and has a crazy dictator in power. Chavez see's himself as a great hero and champion for Latin America and thinks that the US is a evil demon who oppresses them and wants to do us harm to get what he see's as revenge.
well, US history in the region hasn't exactly been glorious or noble at some point's....:|

[Telnyashka]

I see no problem in nuclear energy. Its a fine way of getting away from dominance of fossil fuels.

[soprano]

God Help Us All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roaming East]

The Venezualean missle Crisis doesnt have the same ring as that last one did...

[Rictor]

Erm, seems to me that Iran is in no position to help anyone else until they get their own crap working. Which may be a ways off. First learn to crawl, then start giving running lessons.

Also, if I may ask all those crying bloody murder, who exactly gave the US, the EU or anyone for that matter the authority to deny a sovereign country's rights (rights, not privileges) under international law? If the ink on the paper says Iran can have nuclear energy, Iran can damn well have all the nuclear energy is wants. Or Venezuela. Or Jamaica. Or the Vatican if they so desire. Many people here seems to equate nuclear development of any kind with nuclear weapons, which is simply not the same thing.

[Asheren]

oh yes Koreans also developed nuclear technology for peacefull purposes, they developed missiles also for peacefull purposes. This are just a big fireworks.
Every lil dictator that love to throw $h1t at US recently want to get nukes. Are they afraid that they are next on uncle sam list?

[Paracaidista]

Nothing will happen unless Chavez decides to start trading oil in Euros. Iran is going to get busted because of its soon-to-open (March 2006) Euro oil stock exchange (link (http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/petrov011606pv.html)).

[usa320]

If Chavez accepts the Iranian help, that would be like wearing a T-shirt with a bullseye on it to a firing range.

[Rictor]

Nothing will happen unless Chavez decides to start trading oil in Euros. Iran is going to get busted because of its soon-to-open (March 2006) Euro oil stock exchange (link (http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/petrov011606pv.html)).

Good article. I think more people ought to know of the expected Iranian oil bourse, since it illustrates a very different motive on the part of the US for initiating a campaign against Iran right now. It's all about the Benjamins, and I think Chavez will switch to Euros sooner or later, almost certainly if he wins the 2006 elections.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Venezuela is much to dangerous to handle nukes as is Iran. But Venezuela with nukes is 10 times worse than a nuclear Iran. Because it is right on our door step and has a crazy dictator in power.

For crazy dictator you mean democratically elected President don't you? Why do you Americans think every one in Latin America should be forced to love you?

[caridon]

Just like Iran, they desire nuclear power because they are so obviously so short on fossil fuels to burn. :roll:
<sarcasm>
Just like the US desires oil because they are short on coal.
</sarcasm>
If you use your head you will se that it is economicaly sound to use nuclear power instead of fosil fuel to generate electrisity. And instead sell the fosil fuel.

But hey that requires thinking in several steps.

/C

[melon]

For crazy dictator you mean democratically elected President don't you? Why do you Americans think every one in Latin America should be forced to love you?


It makes no difference what they think or want.

The western hemisphere will be off limits for antagonistic socialist revolutionary's who wish to pursue nuclear weapons.

Deal with it, it will not be allowed to happen. Never, ever.


Using Euros to purchase oil is not a threat the US. Get over the fantasy. Its competition, but thats about it. If the largest net importer of oil wants to buy oil with its own currency, the world will continue to sell them as such.

[Paracaidista]

Using Euros to purchase oil is not a threat the US. Get over the fantasy. Its competition, but thats about it. If the largest net importer of oil wants to buy oil with its own currency, the world will continue to sell them as such.

Your claim is intriguing. Could you provide some link or information for a better understanding?

[Thor]

<sarcasm>
Just like the US desires oil because they are short on coal.
</sarcasm>
If you use your head you will se that it is economicaly sound to use nuclear power instead of fosil fuel to generate electrisity. And instead sell the fosil fuel.

But hey that requires thinking in several steps.

/C
I don't think that's appropriate of you.

Iran and Venezuela are ruled by extremists and it's safe to say that nuclear weapons are possibly on both of their agendas.

[melon]

Your claim is intriguing. Could you provide some link or information for a better understanding?

I will try, but I am not an expert in international banking, but I do have a decent grasp of it. Perhaps a course in global econ is in order. Its been a while since college.

US currency is too valuable to abandon, our debt vs GDP is good, our economy continues to grow, despite the current unstability in the world, and we have the largest purchasing power per capita when compared to other nations. The US continues to make great products, products that can only be purchased here.

But the euro is a good risk, its economy is stable, but not nearly as robust as the US.

But to be honest, this topic is VERY hard to explain in the confines of this forum. The scary notion of the world buying oil in euros and the US dollar losing its value is not a very sound one, or one based in economic reality. Like all conspiracy theories, its takes some fact and truth and runs with it.

[caridon]

I don't think that's appropriate of you.

Iran and Venezuela are ruled by extremists and it's safe to say that nuclear weapons are possibly on both of their agendas.

Try to stopp with the irelevant responses. (like the one above)

I was taling about if there is a reason for aquiring nuclear powergeneration
and if this was dependant on a country having lots od fosil fuel.

My statment was that it dosent matter if you have fossil fuel or not. nuclear power is cheaper so it allways makes economical sense.

Adress that instead of your little stramen.

/C

[Thor]

Try to stopp with the irelevant responses. (like the one above)
Please, just stop your BS. Nothing irrelevant whatsoever.


I was taling about if there is a reason for aquiring nuclear powergeneration and if this was dependant on a country having lots od fosil fuel.
...and I was saying that this doesn't apply to extremist regimes. For bad guys economic motives are primarily used to hide political motives.

If you are carrying out regular, peaceful nuclear research you don't need to dig tunnels kilometres down to hide it and hire experts from North Korea.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

It makes no difference what they think or want.

The western hemisphere will be off limits for antagonistic socialist revolutionary's who wish to pursue nuclear weapons.

Deal with it, it will not be allowed to happen. Never, ever.
And you're going to put your superman outfit on and stop them are you?:roll:

Personally I don't think it's practical for Venezuela to pursue it in the short term because the Iranians aren't advanced enough yet to help them anyway.

But America's power is waning so in the long term it could happen and there won't be anything you can do to stop it if it does.

The US was incapable of stopping the USSR, Britain, France, China, Israel, Pakistan, India and allegedly North Korea and South Africa from developing nuclear weapons. In fact every country that has had a serious nuclear weapons programme has been able to develop them. And don't try mentioning Libya and Iraq they were just playing at it.



Using Euros to purchase oil is not a threat the US. Get over the fantasy. Its competition, but thats about it. If the largest net importer of oil wants to buy oil with its own currency, the world will continue to sell them as such.

Well I didn't mention that and don't know anything about it. Sounds like an interesting bit of lateral thinking by the Iranians though. They should go for it. Might make things interesting.

[caridon]

Please, just stop your BS. Nothing irrelevant whatsoever.


...and I was saying that this doesn't apply to extremist regimes. For bad guys economic motives are primarily used to hide political motives.

If you are carrying out regular, peaceful nuclear research you don't need to dig tunnels kilometres down to hide it and hire experts from North Korea.

And that is totaly irellevant to the subject.
My initial comment was a direct response to kilgors statement that Venezuella dident need nuclear power because they had oil.

so your statements are irrelevant to THIS subject.

We can have another talk about if an extremist goverment should have access to nuclear poer or not. but that is sepparate.

/C

ps last time i cheked venezuela was a democracy so if you want to label it a extremist government i would hope that you complain as much or more about turkey (that is geting help grom the US) and pakistan (that has nuces and is a military dictatorship) and so on and so on.