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pinkeye
03-01-2004, 02:11 PM
4 Major Guard Units Alerted for Iraq Duty


By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON - Four major Army National Guard units have been placed on alert for possible deployment to Iraq (news - web sites) late this year or in early 2005 as part of a larger force rotation, officials said Monday.


The units are the 42nd Infantry Division headquarters from the New York National Guard, the 256th Infantry Brigade from Louisiana, the 116th Cavalry Brigade from Idaho and Oregon, and the 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment from Tennessee, according to several officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.


The alert notifications were expected to be publicly announced later Monday at the Pentagon (news - web sites).


The exact number of Guard members who would be mobilized is unclear; the number could change depending on the security situation in Iraq during the course of this year, but they likely would total several thousand or more.


The four units have not been formally mobilized; those orders likely would come in several weeks.


The alerts were issued well in advance in order to give the Guard members adequate time to prepare for the likelihood of being mobilized and sent to Iraq for 12-month tours. Many Guardsmen and some members of Congress complained that earlier mobilizations for Iraq came with little advance notice.


The Pentagon is relying heavily upon Guard and Reserve troops in Iraq. Three Guard brigades — from Arkansas, North Carolina and Washington state — are part of the current troop rotation, which is in midcourse. They will spend a full year in Iraq, to be replaced by the newly alerted Guard units, if the Pentagon's current projection of troop requirements remains steady.


The troop rotation now under way is substituting about 110,000 active duty and Guard troops for the approximately 130,000 who have been in Iraq for a full year. The subsequent rotation, which is scheduled to take place roughly one year from now, is likely to involve about 100,000 more troops.


The active-duty units tapped for the 2005 rotation have not been publicly identified.

usa320
03-01-2004, 03:08 PM
I new the 42nd Infantry was going to deploy soon. Their airbone detachment operates AH-1F and OH-58A helos out of Rochester airport (like 10 minutes from me) and usually they are airbone maybe once a month if even. But the past few weeks there have been helicopters flying around between like 6pm and 10pm like every night.

I assumed they had stepped up training in expectation of deployment.

WARPIG
03-01-2004, 03:11 PM
NG units are getting "roll up" orders for Afghanistan as well. My state just sent troops to Kosovo recently too.

usa320
03-01-2004, 03:12 PM
We had a local Civil Affairs Btln from here serving in Afghanistan for a while... I think some still are tehre.

Uncle Sam
03-01-2004, 03:30 PM
Crazy...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9632&sid=4ff8120edadb574c416f1e2880d62718

NcDeuce
03-01-2004, 04:43 PM
We had a local Civil Affairs Btln from here serving in Afghanistan for a while... I think some still are tehre.

Don't Civil Affairs soldiers go to Syracuse or something?


Crazy...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9632&sid=4ff8120edadb574c416f1e2880d62718

[Edit] Yeah pinkeye :bash:

Sixgun Symphony
03-01-2004, 07:56 PM
We may need to bring the size of our military back up to what it was before the military cutbacks of the Clinton administration.

Of course we could pull out of places like Kosovo where we do not have any real interest in the region. For that matter, we could pull our troops out of Germany and the rest of Europe and deploy them elsewhere.

FallenAngel
03-01-2004, 08:42 PM
Of course we could pull out of places like Kosovo where we do not have any real interest in the region. For that matter, we could pull our troops out of Germany and the rest of Europe and deploy them elsewhere.

I heard they're considering moving into Poland

Sixgun Symphony
03-01-2004, 08:48 PM
I heard they're considering moving into Poland

That makes me wonder if some people in Washington are still fighting the Cold War.

I recall that Russia was not allowed to join NATO a few years back. Then we go into the Balkans. It could be that the real reason for the US war on Serbia was to encroach on Russia.

Now they want to move US troops into Poland? :roll:

The Soviet Union is gone, I can't see the reason for this encroachment. Stupid really.

I hope that the policy makers in Washington DC will change their course and pull our troops out of Europe. They could be better put to use in securing our lawless border with Mexico.

Rakki
03-01-2004, 08:52 PM
How would you go about standardizing doctrine and equipment if Russia joins NATO? Can Russia even afford it?

Sixgun Symphony
03-01-2004, 08:57 PM
How would you go about standardizing doctrine and equipment if Russia joins NATO? Can Russia even afford it?

Standardization? It would enough that they are part of the team.


But you know, I don't think standarization had anything to do with the refusing their admittance into NATO. I think too many of the policy makers can't let go of the Cold War.

wyrm_142
03-01-2004, 09:04 PM
I heard they're considering moving into Poland

By agreements we've signed with Russia, to allow Former Warsaw Pact nations into NATO, we can't base new forces on any 'new' (Poland, Hungary, etc etc) NATO member. What we can do is deploy forces there for a time period, then send them home.

It basically becomes semantics.

Merik
03-01-2004, 11:02 PM
My uncle is in the 278th ACR.