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KB
02-18-2006, 07:37 PM
Carrier’s trash washes ashore, peeves Aussies
Plastics, sunken F/A-18 Hornet plague Reagan

By Gidget Fuentes
Times staff writer

SAN DIEGO — Plastics and other shipboard trash found near an Australian beach have landed the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan in a heap of trouble.
Navy officials are investigating how several bags of trash got off the ship and into the waters off Brisbane, eastern Australia. Their discovery Jan. 26 prompted apologies from U.S. and Navy officials and complaints from local environmentalists that the ship violated international maritime law by illegally dumping plastics at sea.

Local environmentalists also decried the Navy’s decision not to recover an F/A-18C Hornet jet that crashed Jan. 28 as it tried to land on Reagan’s flight deck. It fell off the deck and sank 120 miles southeast of Brisbane.

The ship’s skipper, Capt. Terry B. Kraft, issued an apology for the trash in the form of a letter sent to Australian newspapers.

“I would like to say that we have a very stringent policy in place that restricts the disposal of plastics at sea,” Kraft wrote. “All plastic waste is held aboard and disposed of ashore.”

“We sincerely regret this incident and are working to ensure that established procedures are followed. The U.S. Navy is committed to operating in a manner compatible with the environment,” he wrote.

The Navy’s shipboard trash and recycling procedures ban the disposal of plastic items. All plastic trash collected aboard is sorted and separated from other trash and then melted and compacted into disks, which are “easily stored until we can dispose of them properly,” Lt. Cmdr. Gary Ross, a Reagan spokesman, said by telephone from the ship Feb. 1.

The carrier, which deployed from San Diego on its maiden operational deployment Jan. 4, left Brisbane on Jan. 27 after a five-day port visit.

“Our indication ... [is the trash dumping] occurred prior to us pulling into port,” Ross said. He declined to provide more specifics, saying an investigation was still underway.

The Nimitz-class carrier was in port when a local fisherman found six bags of trash in the waters near Moreton Island, about 20 miles east of Brisbane.

“We pulled it up onboard and opened it up, and there were all these plastics inside,” the fisherman, Aaron Pringle, told the Sunshine Coast Daily newspaper in Maroochydore. “There’s drink bottles, knives, forks, plastic wrappers and coffee cups, as well as some papers.”

On Jan. 30, a local Australian found another bag of trash, including a Navy shirt and overalls, on a Mudjimba beach, the newspaper reported.

In addition to the trash, environmentalists have made noise about the Navy’s decision not to recover the sunken Hornet.

It’s unclear how deep the jet is. The waters off Australia’s southeast coast drop to more than 12,000 feet beyond the continental shelf.

The aircraft’s pilot, whose name was not released, ejected and was pulled from the water by a Navy helicopter crew. “He didn’t have any injuries,” Ross said, noting a mishap investigation also is underway.

No one on the flight deck was injured, and the jet carried no weapons, he said.

The pilot is from Strike Fighter Squadron 125, based at Lemoore Naval Air Station, Calif.

signatory
02-18-2006, 07:53 PM
“There’s drink bottles, knives, forks, plastic wrappers and coffee cups, as well as some papers.”

awesome, this distraction made people forget about the nuclear reactors :)

Chuckie
02-18-2006, 09:28 PM
Maybe the Navy was leaving the Hornet in order to create one of those artificial reefs.


Seriously though, that is embarassing, for what it's worth.. sorry. I've been to Oz and it's a real nice place.

americanbychoice
02-18-2006, 11:44 PM
I thought the trash facilities on one of those carriers were pretty good. This story seems kind of strange.

Supe
02-19-2006, 01:25 AM
Odd. I would have thought there would be strict regulations on disposal of rubbish on board USN ships, retaining rubbish till ships dock to have all waste suitably removed.

Roaming East
02-19-2006, 02:50 AM
We were simply trying to donate an F18 for the aquatic defense of Australias maritime territories and the ozzies get mad? for shame!











*snicker*

szr
02-19-2006, 03:03 AM
We were like, "Hey, check out this cool F-18! OOPS! Here, you guys can keep this one..."

Too bad they already have a bunch. If it had crashed off the coast of Canada, on the other hand, it could have been considered a charitable donation.(ya, ya, I know you guys have the too..) p-)

C3F
02-19-2006, 03:21 AM
Odd. I would have thought there would be strict regulations on disposal of rubbish on board USN ships, retaining rubbish till ships dock to have all waste suitably removed.


This is a NO BRAINER! It was a couple of LAZY Seaman that didn't want to walk ALL the way to the disposal bin. End of story! No worries Aussies, the lazy idiots will do a little CAPT's MAST and WON'T do that again!!!

As for the environmentalists, doesn't matter what the Navy does, short of retiring ALL ships in the fleet and never sailing again, they won't be happy, so F-UMMMM!!

PaulClift
02-19-2006, 03:28 AM
On a ship that big it stands to reason you will get a lazy smacktard somewhere in the crew, I am sure the bollocking the commander of that ship receives from above will be passed down the line.

Imagine keel hauling on a Nimitz class carrier? :D

theholeinthedonut
02-19-2006, 04:16 AM
If this non-event proves anything ......then just the degree of perversion our society has reached! What a cluster**** over some plastic cups and knives.....
Some people should try to get back into reality!

PaulClift
02-19-2006, 04:32 AM
what about all the surplus planes they tipped off carrier decks just after ww2 near sydney harbour?

kamarian
02-19-2006, 04:39 AM
[QUOTE=Roaming East]We were simply trying to donate an F18 for the aquatic defense of Australias maritime territories and the ozzies get mad? for shame!

The wowers over here were more worried about the rubbish rather than the F-18. not that we don't mind our allies donating excess hard ware!

It's also funny how we have signs around the place saying "Nuclear Free City" and yet Nuclear Powerer Subs have been visiting Brissie for years.

Edited because i cant spell nulcere, nucleir, , fuggit, ATOMIC!

BiZ
02-19-2006, 05:06 AM
It's also funny how we have signs around the place saying "Nuclera Free City" and yet Nucler Powerer Subs have been visiting Brissie for years.

It's also funny how every town has those signs, yet every town that has a Hospital or medical centre etc will have nuclear materials (isotopes/X-rays etc) travelling through it via road courtesy of Lucas Heights Reactor...

From memory, Liverpool is a "nuclear free city" yet it is host to the nuclear reactor....

Daniel
02-19-2006, 05:27 AM
it was 3 or 4 bags of rubbish, geeze these greenies are wankers.

BiZ
02-19-2006, 06:32 AM
it was 3 or 4 bags of rubbish, geeze these greenies are wankers.

I reckon you'd have a different point of view if you turned up for a morning swim at your local beach and found it strewn with a heap of ****, regardless of where it came from.
Doesn't matter whether it's RAN, USN or local fishermen etc, you keep the local waterways clean and don't get lazy...

The F18 ditching isn't a problem, as that was an unavoidable accident. Dumping rubbish though is plain lazy and one of those 'small' things that if ignored/unchecked could grow to be a problem. (Get away with it once, why not 50 times the world over?)
If the Sailor is that lazy with menial tasks such as garbage runs, he's no doubt a lazy bastard with other duties, so this might prove to be the wake up call he needs to get his arse into gear and wake up.

crinkler
02-19-2006, 07:53 AM
Holly crap!! A few bags of plastic made it's way into the ocean... Now we know who to point our fingers at for this global warming. ;)

catalyst
02-19-2006, 08:06 AM
This aint like any ****ty beach you may have elsewhere in the world....this is the area surrounding/of the worlds largest living organism....THE GREAT BARRIER REEF......USN.....Welcome to our seas and lands......but respect it is all we ask....and spend lots when you are in port!

catalyst

Zorro C9
02-19-2006, 08:54 AM
And don't wear out the working girls too much.

SHAM
02-19-2006, 04:46 PM
I love the irony of this, if one was to do the same in american waters, you would be locked up taken to court, slapped with a huge fine by the coast guard and the person who saw/found/reported your abuse of international maritime pollution laws would get to pocket the 500 grand fine.

kamarian
02-20-2006, 02:42 PM
the bags of rubbish were found on either Frazer or Moreton Island, not near the barrier reef.

crinkler
02-21-2006, 01:17 AM
I love the irony of this, if one was to do the same in american waters, you would be locked up taken to court, slapped with a huge fine by the coast guard and the person who saw/found/reported your abuse of international maritime pollution laws would get to pocket the 500 grand fine.
LMAO are you being serious? You should give some of the beaches in Cali a visit.

gsm
02-21-2006, 02:38 AM
i watch the left wing SBS news on a nightly basis here in oz and never saw anything about rubbish being found on beaches.

infact the only coverage i saw on the Reagan was of it arriving in port and when the F-18 ditched.

was waiting for SBS to show protests or have interview's with greenys, but nothing...

Will938
02-21-2006, 02:48 AM
I love the irony of this, if one was to do the same in american waters, you would be locked up taken to court, slapped with a huge fine by the coast guard and the person who saw/found/reported your abuse of international maritime pollution laws would get to pocket the 500 grand fine.

What the hell are you talking about, this wouldn't of even made the news. No one would of even noticed.