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Jarhead
11-21-2009, 01:42 PM
Stop starting a flamewar!!!
Those things have been discussed many times.
If you have a problem with this thread, don't have a look on it.
Story told.
kinney_bmx
11-21-2009, 01:45 PM
^^ Agreed, this isn't the place for that flamewar bull****.
Hollis
11-21-2009, 01:52 PM
weird to want to look at photos of these degenerate thugs/murderers
I suppose it's like the popular american fascination with serial-killer memorabilia
There are warning in this thread. I would suggest reading them. If you continue on the path that you are going on, your stay on MP.NET will be short.
BTW, it is all explained in those warning.
eindhoven
11-21-2009, 08:11 PM
you deny that they're serial killers & degenerate murderers - ? I don't object to people posting photos, as long as they're honest about what they're looking at, and preface them accordingly. These people are worst than ted bundy -
I have no problem with others taking a historical interest in them
Take your need to discuss somewhere else. This is a photo thread and intellectual Queffs like you show up to debate morality in war. This drivel below an image of a Waffen-SS soldier allowing a Russian soldier a drink from his canteen. What a pimple. Post a valid image or in your countries common vernacular, toss off.
Here is another from me. SS-Sturmbannführer Kurt Meyer and Division Commander of LSSAH Sepp Dietrich. After Greece sometime.
And Kurt Meyer as Brigadeführer of 12th SS-HJ.
Bachelor
11-26-2009, 02:32 PM
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7714/4ssgcertapic0001.jpg
Bachelor
11-26-2009, 05:58 PM
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7523/694769696.jpg
AroundTheCorner
11-27-2009, 02:56 AM
weird to want to look at photos of these degenerate thugs/murderers
I suppose it's like the popular american fascination with serial-killer memorabilia
Hahahaha... Really??
Bachelor
11-28-2009, 08:52 AM
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9657/bundesarchivbild101iim2.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5921/z548.jpg
Creampuff
11-28-2009, 09:54 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1457&pictureid=18295
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1457&pictureid=18293
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1457&pictureid=18291
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1457&pictureid=18292
Herbert Otto Gille
11-29-2009, 06:27 AM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 1
Herbert Otto Gille
11-29-2009, 06:36 AM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 2
Herbert Otto Gille
11-29-2009, 06:47 AM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 3
Bachelor
12-02-2009, 07:45 AM
? Steel helmet.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3706/21879829.jpg
........
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4025/52170676.jpg
Bachelor
12-02-2009, 07:59 AM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3192/dutch.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7534/ssmount184.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9943/99893234.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8912/ss5i.jpg
Connaught Ranger
12-02-2009, 08:02 AM
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6475/2192831227lo.jpg
The bottom picture I believe are all members of the R.A.D. and has no s.s. connection. Medals are all WW1 era and the large swastika breast badge on the man on the left connected to the Stahlhem / Bund der Frontsoldaten.
Any chance of a larger scan of the decorations?
Connaught Ranger.:)
Jarhead
12-02-2009, 09:30 AM
? Steel helmet.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3706/21879829.jpg
Hes wearing a Luftwaffe-helmet
The bottom picture I believe are all members of the R.A.D. and has no s.s. connection.
Connaught Ranger.:)
x2. They are all R.A.D. Its a nice photo anyway.
Love the "Hauer"
Herbert Otto Gille
12-02-2009, 10:56 AM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 4
Herbert Otto Gille
12-02-2009, 11:02 AM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 5
Bachelor
12-03-2009, 06:41 PM
The bottom picture I believe are all members of the R.A.D. and has no s.s. connection. Medals are all WW1 era and the large swastika breast badge on the man on the left connected to the Stahlhem / Bund der Frontsoldaten.
Any chance of a larger scan of the decorations?
Connaught Ranger.:)
Not large than
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8913/25381865.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8745/46916832.jpg
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/aiw/meeting.gif
Bachelor
12-07-2009, 06:09 PM
The Lithuanian volunteers in Waffen SS.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9946/picture20435.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9675/picture20434.jpg
The Lithuanian volunteers in Waffen SS.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9946/picture20435.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9675/picture20434.jpg
Hi. Those are Latvian volunteers. Nice topic! Regards
Herbert Otto Gille
12-11-2009, 02:37 PM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 6
Herbert Otto Gille
12-11-2009, 02:39 PM
3rd SS Division Totenkopf - 7
PrinzEugen
12-21-2009, 02:42 PM
I just got myself my own christmas present, a single decal M42 SS helmet, cirka mid 1943. Been wanting one since I started collecting militaria.
AroundTheCorner
12-22-2009, 01:05 AM
If you don't like your present, you always can give it to me.. p-)
Jarhead
12-22-2009, 05:01 AM
Very nice Eugen!!
How is "he" marked?
PrinzEugen
12-22-2009, 06:04 AM
Very nice Eugen!!
How is "he" marked?
Thanks Jar.
It's an hkp (SE), size 64 with batch number 4367. Nice champagne decal, about 90-95%
I'll pm you a link with details.
luftw
12-24-2009, 09:31 AM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6459/43749060.jpg
Herbert Otto Gille
12-24-2009, 11:11 AM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6459/43749060.jpg
It seems reenactor's pic. Tell us about it.
Herbert Otto Gille
12-24-2009, 11:42 AM
Totenkopf in France - May 1940 (1)
Herbert Otto Gille
12-24-2009, 11:52 AM
Totenkopf in France - May 1940 (2)
Herbert Otto Gille
12-24-2009, 12:15 PM
Totenkopf in France - May 1940 (3)
luftw
12-24-2009, 03:53 PM
It seems reenactor's pic. Tell us about it.
This picture is from US Army Signal Corps collection at NARA.
luftw
12-24-2009, 03:57 PM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/368/002jx.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8392/004exq.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5909/001id.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7048/003tp.jpg
http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/johnny_shumates_portfolio/images/81495/original.aspx
http://gothicline.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/8-settembre-and-ss.jpg
http://www.zrcx.com/Article/UploadPic/whatfor/aa2/m_niem_gren_ss_44.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/behblc/Save0016.jpg
Herbert Otto Gille
12-28-2009, 11:19 AM
Totenkopf in France - May 1940 (4)
Rawhide
01-02-2010, 06:35 AM
Keep those amazing photos coming, Herbert.
Thanks for posting.
Bachelor
01-02-2010, 09:51 AM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1821/soldatb.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1258/lzve3614.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4577/a203502149picl.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/564/121431644460979132.jpg
Bachelor
01-02-2010, 09:56 AM
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8559/bundes1455.jpg
Bachelor
01-02-2010, 11:00 AM
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9317/dec091873.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7986/dec091874.jpg
Spagga
01-03-2010, 03:20 AM
Nice pics Bachelor......
as always
:)
notsmartass
01-03-2010, 08:48 AM
Max Wunsche
Bachelor
01-05-2010, 03:22 PM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3815/70042108.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1476/55402686.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/118/006xqv.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1550/ss194420big.jpg
The Ukrainian volunteers went in Waffen SS.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8320/scanimage04.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:05 PM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1550/ss194420big.jpg
Thats very symbolic. I know it says something like Haupsturmfuhrer on the plate but Im sure he was a machine gunner at some point.
RIP
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:07 PM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/TheMachineGunner.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/waffen.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/HandscharSS-Jager.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:09 PM
Bosnian Volunteers
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/handschar_.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/13divizija.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/MenofFlakAbt13beingdecorated.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/2bosmushand.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Officersatburialceremony.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Sturmmannsadjedom-1.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Supply.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:13 PM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/FlakAbt132cmBrcko.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/FlakofficersBosnia2.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/FlakofficersBosnia.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/COandPltCommanders.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Innoculations.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004080454.jpg
Partisan dead found at Sekovici
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004081457.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Sekovici2.jpg
The new M44 dot camouflage
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004082507.jpg
SS-Jagdkommando on an Opel blitz truck.
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Reg28JagdkommandoMaiglockchenMay194.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:19 PM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SSHandscharMachineGunnerfrontandbac.jpg
SS-Feldgendarmerie Trupp 13
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/ha05.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/aza.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/az.jpg
SS-Schutze Ejub Jasarevic, Iron Cross.
Personally decorated by Heinrich Himmler for saving Dr.Schweiger's life in the mutiny on 17/8/43.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-05-2010, 11:21 PM
Im not sure how to embed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJV6_md30
I'll try to post some more color plates from various Osprey and Concord books.
thats it for now.
Spagga
01-06-2010, 02:46 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3815/70042108.jpg
Wow......
what else do u say?
Herbert Otto Gille
01-06-2010, 10:08 AM
Pic 4 - Maybe Wiking? I don' t understand the cuff-title in the arm
Herbert Otto Gille
01-06-2010, 10:21 AM
Pic 4 - An entire generation of German boys lost his life in the eastern front. Remember...this is the true side of the war
http://www.cmtonline.it/Draisine-PG-10-dig.jpg
gaijinsamurai
01-06-2010, 08:50 PM
Pic 4 - Maybe Wiking? I don' t understand the cuff-title in the arm
Maybe "Westland"?
Bachelor
01-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Maybe "Westland"?
Yes!
SS-Schule Tölz and Westland
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1865/maybe20wiking.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4246/ctssschuletolzfcu.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1014/56676.jpg
Connaught Ranger
01-07-2010, 03:43 AM
http://www.cmtonline.it/Draisine-PG-10-dig.jpg
What is this a model? and did it ever exist in reality?
wildcat
01-07-2010, 03:50 AM
What is this a model? and did it ever exist in reality?
There is a tread about armored trains (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154279)
Jarhead
01-07-2010, 04:22 AM
Bechelor is right
First is SS - Schule Tölz
Second ist Westland
CaptMorgan68
01-07-2010, 04:28 AM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/TheMachineGunner.jpg
Is that a Lucky Strike pack of cigs drawn in his left hand?
Jarhead
01-07-2010, 04:57 AM
Is that a Lucky Strike pack of cigs drawn in his left hand?
Yeah......
CaptMorgan68
01-07-2010, 05:02 AM
Yeah......
Weird.....
Connaught Ranger
01-07-2010, 05:48 AM
Weird.....
Not if you read the caption with the picture, many of these drawings are based on actual pictures, or a composite of pictures from WW2.
Connaught Ranger.
Connaught Ranger
01-07-2010, 05:50 AM
There is a tread about armored trains (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154279)
And? this is a thread on Waffen SS troops.
The original poster might have added a link with the picture or a caption.
CaptMorgan68
01-07-2010, 06:03 AM
Not if you read the caption with the picture, many of these drawings are based on actual pictures, or a composite of pictures from WW2.
Connaught Ranger.
Ahh 'captured lucky strikes')
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-08-2010, 10:56 AM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/2i0aiv7.jpg
Men of
Waffen-Gebirgs Signals Battalion 13
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/NachAbt13.jpg
Burial service for an Artillery officer, SS-Untersturmfuhrer Waida, 25, of SS-Waffen Artillerie Regiment 13,
murdered by the Cetniks.
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Burialservice.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/BurialserviceforArtillerycommanderF.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Burialservice2.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/BurialceremonyforSS-Untersturmfuhre.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Burialservicefor25yearoldWaidabyPio.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-08-2010, 11:04 AM
Handschar in Northeastern Bosnia
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004080353-1.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Spring1944.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004074329.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004080252.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004080353.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/081004080454.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/May131944Majevice.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Reg28woundedlateMay19442.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-08-2010, 11:13 AM
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Picture000.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/mnzs64881415jy4.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/b_DRA6159_00.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/514TFKoapgL__SS500_2.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-08-2010, 11:27 AM
Is that a Lucky Strike pack of cigs drawn in his left hand?
Yes Poteau Ambush 18.12.1944, He also captured a Browning Hi Power (9mm) US 14th Cavalry Group was ambushed by Kampfgruppe Hansen
More info and pics on the firefight
http://www.udisco.com/hobbies/pics/006176.jpg
http://worldwar2.free.fr/ardenne3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/OZANIS/Poteau_photo_4.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2104/ardennefoto2xa.jpg
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=100618&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=100697&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=101583&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
More interestingly, some think they found this SS machine gunner's sidearm.
http://webplaza.pt.lu/flener/Poteau_FN-Browning-9mm-pistol.jpg
therifleman
01-08-2010, 11:36 PM
More interestingly, some think they found this SS machine gunner's sidearm.
http://webplaza.pt.lu/flener/Poteau_FN-Browning-9mm-pistol.jpg
I'm curious what backing they have behind this. The Browning Hi-Power was a widely used sidearm for the Germans during the war, especially the SS.
Connaught Ranger
01-09-2010, 04:40 AM
Yes Poteau Ambush 18.12.1944, He also captured a Browning Hi Power (9mm) US 14th Cavalry Group was ambushed by Kampfgruppe Hansen
More info and pics on the firefight
http://www.udisco.com/hobbies/pics/006176.jpg
http://worldwar2.free.fr/ardenne3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/OZANIS/Poteau_photo_4.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2104/ardennefoto2xa.jpg
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=100618&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=100697&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=101583&sid=5a3029699e918031425bec422ed0ae65
More interestingly, some think they found this SS machine gunner's sidearm.
http://webplaza.pt.lu/flener/Poteau_FN-Browning-9mm-pistol.jpg
Even more interesting is the series of Black and white pics are stills taken from a German Propaganda Unit film, that re-enacted the German advance.
I believe the full story is featured in one of the "After the Battle, then and now." series of books.
Connaught Ranger.
http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/73/47773-050-96FEE6B1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/csite/waffen-ss/9.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/153/8/c/German_WW2_Soldier_by_AngusMcLeod.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6978/ss5nt1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg228/H3Pyro/Military-Other-67272.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg228/H3Pyro/Military-Other-67271.jpg
http://ewse.szerverem.hu/kepfeltoltes/images/ybu4pyjx50lk3xxodel.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/344rzv7.jpg
Herbert Otto Gille
01-09-2010, 09:40 AM
Waffen SS - Various pics 1
Herbert Otto Gille
01-09-2010, 09:50 AM
Waffen SS - Various pics 2
Herbert Otto Gille
01-09-2010, 10:06 AM
Waffen SS - Various pics 3
notsmartass
01-09-2010, 03:58 PM
Mr. 5487...why do you post reenacting-photos in this tread? This is historial post!
TallGuy
01-09-2010, 10:33 PM
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9657/bsvbjornsson.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1773/bjornsson.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9657/bsvbjornsson.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1773/bjornsson.jpg
Wow! Can You provide some more details how, and from where You get that card???? How You got some more??? Thanks!
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-10-2010, 12:10 PM
Even more interesting is the series of Black and white pics are stills taken from a German Propaganda Unit film, that re-enacted the German advance.
I believe the full story is featured in one of the "After the Battle, then and now." series of books.
Connaught Ranger.
Could you name some of the events re-enacted?
Connaught Ranger
01-10-2010, 01:17 PM
As I recall from reading the book about 15 years ago. . . The Nazi Propaganda company was filming the glorious advance through the American positions, investigation of the film and pictures, later determined the events shown were staged, (perhaps the give away was the lack of opposition from the Americans,) yes, the vehicles, and supplies were American, they were abandoned on the road, earlier in the day or from the day before, it was also determined from the film and pictures that the Germans were in fact moving in the opposite direction, i.e.. away from the American postions when filming.
Connaught Ranger.
Connaught Ranger
01-10-2010, 01:26 PM
Burial service for an Artillery officer, SS-Untersturmfuhrer Waida, 25, of SS-Waffen Artillerie Regiment 13,
murdered by the ********.
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Burialservice.jpg
If you take the time to read through this thread you will find such comments as "murdered by the *********." are totally out of order, comments such as these, tend to start a flame war and get the thread derailed, its strictly pictures and video, I.M.H.O.it would be better to delete the comment before the flaming begins.
Connaught Ranger.
Breerman
01-10-2010, 04:00 PM
As I recall from reading the book about 15 years ago. . . The Nazi Propaganda company was filming the glorious advance through the American positions, investigation of the film and pictures, later determined the events shown were staged, (perhaps the give away was the lack of opposition from the Americans,) yes, the vehicles, and supplies were American, they were abandoned on the road, earlier in the day or from the day before, it was also determined from the film and pictures that the Germans were in fact moving in the opposite direction, i.e.. away from the American postions when filming..
You could exchange Germans for Americans in that text. They staged such bogus fights in Italy for the home front. I believe Robert Capa was involved in at least one incident.
Please refrain from excessive use of colors.
Connaught Ranger
01-10-2010, 04:20 PM
You could exchange Germans for Americans in that text. They staged such bogus fights in Italy for the home front. I believe Robert Capa was involved in at least one incident.
Please refrain from excessive use of colors.
Who died and made you the boss??
We are talking here about a set of pictures that were posted in this thread.:roll:
Breerman
01-10-2010, 05:00 PM
I think it was a polite request. Black seems to be good enough for everyone else. There's a reason why boards don't allow it and why it's not used in publications.
You built up some dramatic story around those pics portraying it as a unique event when it was in fact a practice employed on all sides. Maybe you just didn't know that.
Connaught Ranger
01-10-2010, 05:07 PM
I think it was a polite request. Black seems to be good enough for everyone else. There's a reason why boards don't allow it and why it's not used in publications.
You built up some dramatic story around those pics portraying it as a unique event when it was in fact a practice employed on all sides. Maybe you just didn't know that.
AND ?
With regards the pictures I did not "build up some dramatic story" but stated some facts, the pictures were from a propaganda shoot, so how could the Browning allegedly found in that area, be the one in the film clip and pictures belonging to that particular member of the ss?
Feel free to wind your neck in.
Connaught Ranger.
Breerman
01-10-2010, 05:27 PM
A polite request and a kind reminder. No need for a tantrum.
I think your posts often lack objectivity. Giving the whole story and trying to stay objective is something many find important when discussing historical events.
Keep your neck away from me and it will be fine.
Pandemonium
01-10-2010, 06:33 PM
As I recall from reading the book about 15 years ago. . . The Nazi Propaganda company was filming the glorious advance through the American positions, investigation of the film and pictures, later determined the events shown were staged, (perhaps the give away was the lack of opposition from the Americans,) yes, the vehicles, and supplies were American, they were abandoned on the road, earlier in the day or from the day before, it was also determined from the film and pictures that the Germans were in fact moving in the opposite direction, i.e.. away from the American postions when filming.
Connaught Ranger.
Both sides did this all the time, my grandfather who lived in belgium in a little town near Brussels, was photographed as being a russian boy by German soldiers quarted in his house when they staged photos that would have been taken on the eastern front in the snow. They were published back then somewhere in one or the other magazine. I'll ask him next time I see him.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:11 AM
Armor of Skorzeny's special forces.
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny3.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny2.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny8.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny9.jpg
Connaught Ranger
01-11-2010, 08:12 AM
A polite request and a kind reminder. No need for a tantrum.
I think your posts often lack objectivity. Giving the whole story and trying to stay objective is something many find important when discussing historical events.
Keep your neck away from me and it will be fine.
I would heed your comments if they were anything of relevance to this thread, internet tough guy. :roll:
From my collection:- Unknown SS Officer with tourists from Romania, possibly near Friedrickshaven, in 1934, judging by other pictures in the group I acquired here in Transylvania.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:13 AM
Regular armor used in the offensive.
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny5.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny6.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny7.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny4.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny10.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:13 AM
Kampfgruppe Hansen
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny11.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny12.jpg
Stoumont
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/Ardennen%201944/Ardennen1944mitPeiperundSkorzeny13.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:22 AM
Headgear of the Waffen SS
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel7.jpg
Camo Smocks
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel8.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel9.jpg
Rifleman's gear
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel4.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel5.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:22 AM
Maschinenpistole
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel2.jpg
Maschinengewehre
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel3.jpg
Sidearms
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel6SS-VT.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel12.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 08:25 AM
Anti armor
Panzerschreck with a modified blastshield
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel11.jpg
Panzerfaust
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/SS-1/Schutzstaffel10.jpg
Hollis
01-11-2010, 11:20 AM
I gather it needs to be mentioned to keep the flames/pissing match out of this thread. If your new, read the warning in this thread on how you approach the SS issue. Fanboys will probably be banned.
Breerman
01-11-2010, 01:34 PM
[B][COLOR=Blue]I would heed your comments if they were anything of relevance to this thread, internet tough guy. :roll:
Trying to provide an honest picture of events is relevant to most.
Rest to PM.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Luger Pistol 1908
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4548/schutzstaffel.jpg
Hollis
01-11-2010, 02:48 PM
P.S. it helps to post lower resolution photos. Some people, sadly, still have dial up or slow internet.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-11-2010, 03:31 PM
P.S. it helps to post lower resolution photos. Some people, sadly, still have dial up or slow internet.
Is there a way to make them into thumbnails?
Hollis
01-12-2010, 01:16 AM
I believe you can use a photo editor and reduce the resolution 600 x 800 works pretty good.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-12-2010, 07:15 AM
MG42 Gunner from 16.SS-Reichsfuhrer Division in Italy
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/the%20enemy/Concord/SS-39.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/the%20enemy/Concord/SS-4.jpg
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn377/Sturmmann13SS/the%20enemy/Concord/SS-45.jpg
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-12-2010, 12:04 PM
SS-Hauptscharführer Karl Körner (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen10.htm),
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/korner.jpg
In April of 1945, SS-Hauptscharführer Karl Körner (platoon commander from the 2nd Company) was supporting an infantry counterattack in the Bollersdorf area (east of Berlin), when he encountered two Soviet JS-II heavy tanks at a distance of 200m. He quickly destroyed the first one and second one trying to reverse in order to take a firing position drove into an anti-tank ditch and was abandomed by the crew. On the road from Bollersdorf to Strausberg, Körner observed additional 11 JS-II tanks and around 120 to 150 enemy tanks in the process of being refuelled and re-armed on the egde of the village. He then fired and destroyed all 11 JS-II tanks on the road and attacked the rest of the tanks and their suprised crews. Number of fuel and ammunition trucks exploded causing even more panic among the Russian tankers, while Körner fired all 39 rounds he had left and knocked out 39 enemy tanks before he withdrew. Following this action, sSSPzAbt 503 and other units were falling back to defend Berlin. On his way to Berlin, Karl Körner destroyed over 100 Soviet tanks and 26 anti-tank guns in total, achievement for which on April 29th, he was awarded the Knights Cross in the bunker of Reichs Chancellery. After the ceremony, Körner returned to his unit on the frontline at Charlottenburg district of Berlin. On May 2nd, last King Tiger (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz5.htm) from sSSPzAbt 503 was destroyed during an attempt to break out of the city on the Spandau Bridge.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/tig2s_2.jpg
Volkssturmsoldat
01-18-2010, 08:16 AM
I just got myself my own christmas present, a single decal M42 SS helmet, cirka mid 1943. Been wanting one since I started collecting militaria.
The christmas present of my dreams^^. For a long time I want the same original... How did you find it, and how many? Thanks
Bosnian Volunteers
Thanks for those rare photos
SS-Hauptscharführer Karl Körner (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen10.htm),
In April of 1945, SS-Hauptscharführer Karl Körner (platoon commander from the 2nd Company) was supporting an infantry counterattack in the Bollersdorf area (east of Berlin), when he encountered two Soviet JS-II heavy tanks at a distance of 200m. He quickly destroyed the first one and second one trying to reverse in order to take a firing position drove into an anti-tank ditch and was abandomed by the crew. On the road from Bollersdorf to Strausberg, Körner observed additional 11 JS-II tanks and around 120 to 150 enemy tanks in the process of being refuelled and re-armed on the egde of the village. He then fired and destroyed all 11 JS-II tanks on the road and attacked the rest of the tanks and their suprised crews. Number of fuel and ammunition trucks exploded causing even more panic among the Russian tankers, while Körner fired all 39 rounds he had left and knocked out 39 enemy tanks before he withdrew. Following this action, sSSPzAbt 503 and other units were falling back to defend Berlin. On his way to Berlin, Karl Körner destroyed over 100 Soviet tanks and 26 anti-tank guns in total, achievement for which on April 29th, he was awarded the Knights Cross in the bunker of Reichs Chancellery. After the ceremony, Körner returned to his unit on the frontline at Charlottenburg district of Berlin. On May 2nd, last King Tiger (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz5.htm) from sSSPzAbt 503 was destroyed during an attempt to break out of the city on the Spandau Bridge.
Thanks for this very interesting story. I have a question, did you ever see the movie "The Fall" (Der Untergang)? Because there is someone in the movie, with a very little role, a young officier of the W-SS who has a lot of awards, and it makes me think to him. But in the film he commit suicide, so I don't know... Let me know if you can help me :)
tattooman
02-01-2010, 12:01 PM
Interesting photo showing one of the few spanish enroled in SS:
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Ricardo Botet Moro photographiated with SS uniform:
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Fighting between the years 1941-1942 with the Blue Division, specifically in II/269 Infantry. He gets the sergeant's stripes and the Iron Cross and the Assault Badge.
After graduating he returned to Spain, to return in 1943 again to the Eastern Front with the Blue Legion.
Later, is and enrolled in 1944 in the famous 3rd ed. / I Battalion of SS-70 Reg of the 28th SS Div "Wallonia. With the degree of SS-Oscha (first sergeant). Participating in the battles of Stargard and Stettin (February-March 1945). He later achieved the degree of SS-Ustuf. (Lieutenant)
Finally wrestled with the "Einheit Ezquerra" during the siege of Berlin in April-May 1945.
It is not captured by the Soviets, then posing as workers "displaced". From there he fled to the Allied area, where it is captured by the British. Spend a year prisoner of the British and in 1946 returned to Spain.
Another spanish SS, Ocaña 3rd from right:
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Another one, Luis Garcia Valdajos:
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In the Waffen SS Wallonien
Herbert Otto Gille
02-01-2010, 04:19 PM
17. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division Götz von Berlichingen - Various pics.
Marsmann
02-05-2010, 07:37 PM
I know that this isn't Waffen-SS. But i found this pic at home and i wonder about his collar patch. His rank is "Oberfeldwebel" but he hasn't the corresponding collar patch.
they look more like those ones for officer
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large version: www.flickr.com/photos/teamworklive/3861608423/sizes/l/in/set-72157621594205282/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamworklive/3861608423/sizes/l/in/set-72157621594205282/)
Marsmann
02-05-2010, 07:51 PM
This time Waffen-SS:
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gdamier
02-17-2010, 05:35 PM
Here is and excellent thread on SS photos... http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=68994&start=270
gdamier
02-17-2010, 05:37 PM
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=68994&start=270
Maschinengewehrschutze
02-24-2010, 09:02 PM
SS-Rottenfuhrer with American M1 Carbine
http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/johnny_shumates_portfolio/images/271318/328x425.aspx
Poteau 1944
Jarhead
02-25-2010, 03:41 AM
SS-Rottenfuhrer with American M1 Carbine
Thats a SS- Unterscharführer.
Hollis
03-05-2010, 11:01 AM
This thread is about photos and videos of the SS, not defending them or elevating their status. There are warning in this thread on how to deal with this issue. View it from a neutral historical perspective. DO NOT come across as defender or fanboi of the SS or you will not be on this forum. Yes, it is a dicey issue.
Volkssturmsoldat
03-05-2010, 11:07 AM
Totally agree. The most important is the HISTORICAL point of view.
Maschinengewehrschutze
03-05-2010, 04:11 PM
V2-Jagd. Abt. SS-Regt. 28
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9885/ssjagdkommando.jpg
luftw
03-07-2010, 06:43 PM
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Waffen SS - Various pics
luftw
03-07-2010, 06:46 PM
Waffen SS - Various pics
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TallGuy
03-10-2010, 07:47 PM
Does anyone here have the book Soldiers of the Waffen-SS: Many Nations, One Motto by Marc Rikmenspoel?
I'm looking for a photo of the Icelander Odd Tordarson. He died a few months after he was wounded at the battle of Narva.
I read on some website that there's a photo of him on page 413. Can anyone check to see if this is true?
I've considered buying the book but it costs $82 at Amazon.com. :-(
gdamier
03-20-2010, 02:14 PM
Waffen SS Commmande rHimmler
http://galerie.palba.cz/albums/Polni%20marsalove/Hitler_a_marsalove.jpeg
gdamier
03-20-2010, 02:17 PM
Henk Feldmeijer
http://www.hetverhaalvangroningen.nl/assets/story/000308.filename.Feldmeijer_in_ss-uniform.JPG.090.jpg (http://www.hetverhaalvangroningen.nl/assets/story/000308.filename.Feldmeijer_in_ss-uniform.JPG.512.jpg) de Voorman van de Nederlandse-ss
[1910-1945
räuberhotzenplotz
04-08-2010, 10:21 PM
The imageshack bastards deleted 99% of all pics in this thread !!!
Connaught Ranger
04-09-2010, 06:24 AM
Are the original images the copyright property of the imageshack account,
if a complaint has been made that there are copyright infringements I believe imageshack
reserve the right to delete said images and suspend the account of the user.
Connaught Ranger.
greendzflash
04-09-2010, 06:33 AM
muslim, waffen ss
mein kampf meets the koran = jihad
greendzflash
04-09-2010, 07:06 AM
sorry if a repost:
jochen peiper
interesting note, even though the 2nd picture is almost always captioned as being Peiper, it is not. whilst in the Ardennes Offensive in Dec 1944 he used a tank as his command vehicle, a Pather in fact with the regimental number 1 on the turret. when this broke down, he moved to a 251/3 IV.
greendzflash
04-09-2010, 07:19 AM
Even more interesting is the series of Black and white pics are stills taken from a German Propaganda Unit film, that re-enacted the German advance.
I believe the full story is featured in one of the "After the Battle, then and now." series of books.
Connaught Ranger.
use the following link: http://www.museum-poteau44.be/
click on english then on the menu on the left click history.
it outlines the history of the black and white photos taken at poteau during the Ardennes Offensive in Dec 1944.
yes it was staged. the other famous picture is of 2-3 germans running across the road. what most publishers do is crop the photo so that you dont see the German soldier who is ambling in the back ground!!
cuirassier
05-16-2010, 09:59 AM
I find this picture in the net. The legend says division Charlemagne 1945. It is difficult to see exactly but I have a doubt: it is a picture of the division Charlemagne? This photo maybe was tacked the day when they arrived to Berlin in trucks. We can see 2 stills of uniforms; it is possible in this division because some of them come to the LVF and other to the Waffen SS. What do you think about this photo?
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Herbert Otto Gille
05-16-2010, 10:35 AM
I find this picture in the net. The legend says division Charlemagne 1945. It is difficult to see exactly but I have a doubt: it is a picture of the division Charlemagne? This photo maybe was tacked the day when they arrived to Berlin in trucks. We can see 2 stills of uniforms; it is possible in this division because some of them come to the LVF and other to the Waffen SS. What do you think about this photo?
122285
...Poor details...
cuirassier
05-16-2010, 10:50 AM
...Poor details...
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12938&start=30
on this page i find maybe a anwser and a best photo. It is the divsion Charlemagne in Pomerania. On the arm of the man to the right i think it is the flag of france under the eagle. With is goodest photo we can supose it is not in Berlin.
Herbert Otto Gille
05-16-2010, 11:24 AM
Yes, it' s correct.
Maschinengewehrschutze
05-25-2010, 06:03 PM
muslim, waffen ss
mein kampf meets the koran = jihad
no, Bosnians were merely fighting for the safety of their people and an autonomous Bosnia.
the idea of a Jihad wasnt even alive in Europe in 1943.
its only a modern fabrication/connection to explain the roots of Islamofascism (which would be the Mufti not Handschar).
This connection is also an insult to tens of thousands of colonial Muslim troops that fought for the Allies during WW2.
CaptMorgan68
05-25-2010, 06:06 PM
no, Bosnians were merely fighting for the safety of their people and an autonomous Bosnia.
the idea of a Jihad wasnt even alive in Europe.
its only a modern fabrication/connection
well the Nazis did try to stir shiz up with the Muslims in the USSR during WW2 and in some other places in the ME before that... while certainly not Jihad there was a certain islamic element to it
Sousuke
05-26-2010, 06:46 AM
Guys, this is a photo thread. Lets keep it that way.
Hollis
05-26-2010, 11:31 AM
This is a photo thread. When the member decide to get back on topic, let me know and I will re-open it.
Hollis
05-28-2010, 03:41 PM
For those who avoid flames and contribute to this thread, thank you for doing so and the thread is open.
Let's keep this a photo thread and the flames out.
luftw
06-24-2010, 09:33 AM
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/082bd8e5.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/5b0b1838.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/5fa8d0fb.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/239ea440.jpg
Waffen SS troops
largewar
07-01-2010, 04:41 PM
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/082bd8e5.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/5b0b1838.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/5fa8d0fb.jpg
http://fotoo.pl/zdjecia/files/2010-06/239ea440.jpg
Waffen SS troops
The SS-Gruppenführer seems to be Alfred Wünnenberg and perhaps the Standartenführer is Lothar Debes
Bachelor
08-08-2010, 11:54 AM
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7963/f9200110.jpg
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9465/f100110.jpg
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7184/img0404g.jpg
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LineDoggie
08-09-2010, 06:30 PM
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7184/img0404g.jpg
3rd Motorized Pioneer Battalion (Armored Engineers), Totenkopf Div.
Charlie_Brown
08-13-2010, 05:03 AM
No he's not a panzerpioneer, that piping is the standard other ranks piping on early 1936 pattern SS Feild Grey Tunics (it was also on the black tunics for other ranks.
Bachelor
08-25-2010, 01:11 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img834/3661/5209917.jpg
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Spagga
09-06-2010, 05:17 AM
Bump plz......I miss Bachelors posts.....:(
Bachelor
09-14-2010, 04:57 PM
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6051/img1551q.jpg
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PanzerJohn
09-20-2010, 10:30 AM
Welcome back. woot
Bachelor
09-20-2010, 06:45 PM
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6051/img1551q.jpg
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http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/836/img1551d.jpg
Bachelor
09-20-2010, 06:46 PM
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/882/scan0001zs.jpg
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zatvorenik
12-15-2010, 09:44 AM
Interesting thread, I've been reading about the Waffen SS for a long time, even more about teh Eastern Front. Here a 2 torrents, you shoulf find interesting.
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http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4760/sp33tf0.jpg
[URL]http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/421264/5194692/ (http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/450578/10389384/)
Can someone post this torrent again...I would really like to have this...Anyone please!
Bachelor
12-16-2010, 11:07 AM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7748/img101r.jpg
Bachelor
12-16-2010, 11:25 AM
Latvian Legion SS
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3150/optimizedlet1.jpg
Bachelor
12-16-2010, 11:26 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6613/save0008i.jpg
Sheikh Al Stranghi
12-18-2010, 10:59 AM
I know that this isn't Waffen-SS. But i found this pic at home and i wonder about his collar patch. His rank is "Oberfeldwebel" but he hasn't the corresponding collar patch.
they look more like those ones for officer
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large version: www.flickr.com/photos/teamworklive/3861608423/sizes/l/in/set-72157621594205282/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamworklive/3861608423/sizes/l/in/set-72157621594205282/)
It's an officer's coat with oberfeldwebel shoulder boards. Look at the collar and the pockets. He's probably just using it for dress purposes, not too odd.
Sheikh Al Stranghi
12-18-2010, 03:25 PM
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It is very funny to see that all these "exotic" and colour skinned people belonged to waffen SS while at the same time, white and blue eyed ashkenazi jews were not aryan enough for the german reich.. It really proves how much these racial laws and jewish obsession from nazis was pure hypocrisy and total BS.
Indeed, racial laws would be as stupid if european jews where dark skinned people, but such photos show even more the absolute paradox of the nazi ideology.
...Yea. Thing is, these people all belong to the Wehrmacht, not the SS...
mikcem
03-01-2011, 06:15 AM
I have a photo collection of a man who served in 6t150743h Nord Div
Hermann Schultz joined Nord in 1942 seved as Schutz as Mortarman and Sniper 1943
promoted in 1944 to Senior Seargent here are some pics enjoy 150742
mikcem
03-01-2011, 06:35 AM
150746150744More of the photos of Hermann150745
nougabol
06-12-2011, 01:18 PM
Great pics, thanks.
Is that an MP38, with the ribbed topcover ?
cuirassier
07-19-2011, 09:13 AM
I saw an article against WWII myths: one of this myths is "Waffen SS, an elite troop?" In this article they speak about mutinies in the Waffen SS.
Mutiny in the 7th .SS Prinz Eugen because Croatians (Volksdeutschen) were not all volunteers, maltreated, humiliated, mocked exploited... by their German officers who considered them like no German. They mutinied to be transferred to the Croatian Army.
Mutiny with two battailons of Ukranians volunteers ( 14th SS or 24th SS) who rejoin the French resistance before to be integrated in F.F.L Foreign Legion.
Muntiny in the 13th SS Handschar for same reasons than Croatians.
Mutiny of some Dutch. I forget the rest about them (which unit, why they did that...)
and Mutiny in the 36th SS composed by Germans, some communists of them go to join Red Army.
If someone have other informations about mutinies in the Waffen SS?
driver
07-25-2011, 03:24 PM
The Americans wore indeed camo, but it has several times happened that they were mistaken for Japanese!
The German paratroopers wore camo part clothing.
Sheikh Al Stranghi
07-25-2011, 03:46 PM
The Americans wore indeed camo, but it has several times happened that they were mistaken for Japanese!
The German paratroopers wore camo part clothing.
Where the hell did you find that? Indeed the German paratroops wore camouflage smocks from 1941 (Crete) onwards, but your statement about the US being mistaken for japanese I don't believe until I see a source. The japanese did not even wear camouflage clothing during the war, just green... The US camouflaged HBT uniform was so widespread in the PTO that just about every US unit would know the pattern.
trasher
07-25-2011, 03:50 PM
@ cuirassier
You are right. Check out this link and use a translator:
http://www.zweiter-weltkrieg-lexikon.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1406
Rosbach
11-08-2011, 08:18 PM
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11-08-2011, 09:18 PM
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Maschinengewehrschutze
11-26-2011, 06:56 AM
I saw an article against WWII myths: one of this myths is "Waffen SS, an elite troop?" In this article they speak about mutinies in the Waffen SS.
Mutiny in the 7th .SS Prinz Eugen because Croatians (Volksdeutschen) were not all volunteers, maltreated, humiliated, mocked exploited... by their German officers who considered them like no German. They mutinied to be transferred to the Croatian Army.
Mutiny with two battailons of Ukranians volunteers ( 14th SS or 24th SS) who rejoin the French resistance before to be integrated in F.F.L Foreign Legion.
Muntiny in the 13th SS Handschar for same reasons than Croatians.
Mutiny of some Dutch. I forget the rest about them (which unit, why they did that...)
and Mutiny in the 36th SS composed by Germans, some communists of them go to join Red Army.
If someone have other informations about mutinies in the Waffen SS?
The Handschar pionier companie mutiny was instigated by communist spies Tito actually sent to infiltrate the unit while in training.. the mutiny was put down by Bosnian volunteers. Himmler personally decorated them.
The SS was trusted to spearhead attacks, not hold the flanks, hence its categorization as an elite shock troop force.
The W-SS also got some of the best equipment too.
LineDoggie
11-26-2011, 04:16 PM
The SS was trusted to spearhead attacks, not hold the flanks, hence its categorization as an elite shock troop force.
The W-SS also got some of the best equipment too.Not Initially, thats why you see MP28's, MP 34's and Mauser Schnellfeur rather than MP38/40's and P-38's. MG 37(t) instead of MG34's etc. the Waffen-SS was low on new weapons priority before 1942 and had to scramble to arm the . Why they didnt have a Panzer Division before 42 because they had to prove they werent just Asphalt Soldiers.
Maschinengewehrschutze
11-26-2011, 05:56 PM
Not Initially, thats why you see MP28's, MP 34's and Mauser Schnellfeur rather than MP38/40's and P-38's. MG 37(t) instead of MG34's etc. the Waffen-SS was low on new weapons priority before 1942 and had to scramble to arm the . Why they didnt have a Panzer Division before 42 because they had to prove they werent just Asphalt Soldiers.
What you're talking about has alot of truth to it. The W-SS did become the apple of Himmler's eye. Many fascist organizations have their own special force. The early SS-VT didnt out perform the Wehrmacht in Poland at all from what I hear. They had been indoctrinated to such an extent that they had the highest casualties, were the most reckless and most eager to impose certain political sentences onto the Polish civilian population.
Many have compared the USMC to the mid war W-SS and compared Fallujah to Kharkow. Both have gotten a good deal of publicity as their nation's fire brigades. But offcourse when you start talking about funding, the similarities end there. (the axis history forum has a very interesting debate on this same comparison)
UFO86
11-27-2011, 04:54 AM
У кого есть фото по теме:Харьков 1943,сбрасывайте сюда.
Connaught Ranger
11-27-2011, 05:01 AM
У кого есть фото по теме:Харьков 1943,сбрасывайте сюда.
Forum language is in English, so please add a translation.
Connaught Ranger.
UFO86
11-27-2011, 05:25 AM
Who has pictures of: Kharkov 1943, the fold here.
UFO86
11-27-2011, 01:38 PM
Well, no one has nothing?
Connaught Ranger
11-27-2011, 02:06 PM
Well, no one has nothing?
Did you look through the 162 Pages here, or run a search of the Forum?
Connaught Ranger.
UFO86
11-27-2011, 05:38 PM
I am interested in Kharkov 1943
JUNKHO
11-27-2011, 08:54 PM
^^^ try these
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?202367-Tiger-I-on-the-Eastern-Front-April-1943-(Colourised)&highlight=kharkov+1943 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?202367-Tiger-I-on-the-Eastern-Front-April-1943-(Colourised)&highlight=kharkov+1943)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=kharkov+1943&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=775&pdl=500&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
UFO86
11-28-2011, 10:59 AM
Guys, I collect a theme: Kharkov 1941-1943 Please help, I collect album http://reibert.info/forum/album.php?albumid=4637
nougabol
11-28-2011, 06:05 PM
damn, those are some nics pics, I especially like the one with the sturmgeschutz with the winter tracks, and that SS winter clothing is nice to, love those long anoraks... should get one of those in repro to dress up a mannekin
I don't know about the status of the pictures, public domain or not, but I guess you better watermark them
UFO86
11-29-2011, 12:49 PM
I'll wait for your help.
UFO86
12-01-2011, 09:57 AM
Well, no one will help?
Rosbach
12-01-2011, 07:16 PM
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UFO86
12-01-2011, 07:25 PM
This is not the Kharkov
Rosbach
12-01-2011, 07:34 PM
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UFO86
12-22-2011, 06:13 PM
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Sheikh Al Stranghi
12-23-2011, 09:50 AM
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