Something unsettling

[Wiseman]

I joined Model UN in my university and we had a conference to go to in Boston, MA. It was hosted by Harvard in the Park Plaza Hotel. Each university is given a country to represent and a 2 person team are assigned to specific committees. Usually univeristies have many 2 man teams for various committees. My committee was the Historical General Assembly of 1971. This committee was focused on discussing the Indian-Pakistani War. The rules were that you couldn't use any info past a few days of the official start of the war. Here is the disturbing part. Some Muslim students got the chance to represent Arabic states ( not necessarily where they were born ). They would come on and make their points ( more like rants ) about the topic in focus and then would shout Allah Akbar at the end. I fail to see how God fits into their points. Then we had some numbnuts call for Jihad which got some shouts of approval and yelps. I was the only one who looked around and thought that no way is this happening in a Model UN event. One girl was equally shocked and said "This is not Jihad, this is the UN". The director of that committee got angry and you could see him stare the guy down who said that. Now, the fact is that some the of the kids who felt the need to call for Jihad and shout Allah Akbar were from prestigious universities. Is this the future leadership of the US? Am I wrong here? Any thoughts on this?

[jedisponge]

Myself being interested in my Universities model EU program (even though it's a US school), I'm amazed something like this would happen. But one thing to realize in studying politics and international relations is that the stupidity of some people will never cease to amaze you in what they do.

With that said, all this weird, extreme-slanted Muslim stuff going on so far in this young year is making me scratch my head.

[Futile Talisman]

Myself being interested in my Universities model EU program (even though it's a US school), I'm amazed something like this would happen. But one thing to realize in studying politics and international relations is that the stupidity of some people will never cease to amaze you in what they do.

With that said, all this weird, extreme-slanted Muslim stuff going on so far in this young year is making me scratch my head.

well said, me,

BA Political Science
MA International Relations

and if you keep at it stop scratching your head, you will go bald way too early dude.

Wiseman,

I went to the same program and attended the host university's school of Near Eastern Studies for language study,

Only thing I can say pal is the halls of America's prestigious universities is where you will find the biggest assclown's on the planet earth. As to the future of American leadership, I share your anxiety.

Ivy League Professors are encapsulated in their own world, a world where they are allowed to be free to hate the military and embrace terrorism only because men who wouldn't be accepted due to their so called standards fought and died for that freedom. Any 19 year old who has done a tour in Iraq or the Stan can tell you far more about this world than a 30 year tenured professor at Harvard or Yale.

Lewis Nixon, George Bush Sr.and plenty of others excluded, but I believe the wars of this country were won overwhelmingly because of the blood shed by the common man.

I am new here and have no doubt that the virulent anti-military rants from so called institutions of higher learning are well known. Some students can see through the BS and some can't, it is indeed a sad state of affairs.

Best line I can think of and I am paraphrasing so may not get it perfect is from Good Will Hunting, and went along the lines of "spending $150,000 dollars on an education you could of got in a dollar fifty in late fees at the public library."

Stripes on any American serviceman's uniform mean far more than any diploma on my wall.

[joshfox0]

Now if i remember correctly thats much like the real UN alot of shouting about stuff and no action. frankly i think the kids at the faux conference were just RPing and maybe got a bit carryed away.

[jedisponge]

Best line I can think of and I am paraphrasing so may not get it perfect is from Good Will Hunting, and went along the lines of "spending $150,000 dollars on an education you could of got in a dollar fifty in late fees at the public library."

Stripes on any American serviceman's uniform mean far more than any diploma on my wall.
From my experience so far, most of the stuff in college and universities are things that you can pretty much learn on your by reading books. The only difference is one gives a diploma.

Not cracking on higher education or anything, as having your certificates and diplomas are things that signify that you do know your stuff (for most people anyway), but at times I question if paying so much money for something you can really do on your own, albeit without as many resources as a higher learning institution provides, is really worth it.

But this is just a cynical point of view. Without a doubt college has helped show me the way.

[Futile Talisman]

From my experience so far, most of the stuff in college and universities are things that you can pretty much learn on your by reading books. The only difference is one gives a diploma.

Not cracking on higher education or anything, as having your certificates and diplomas are things that signify that you do know your stuff (for most people anyway), but at times I question if paying so much money for something you can really do on your own, albeit without as many resources as a higher learning institution provides, is really worth it.

But this is just a cynical point of view. Without a doubt college has helped show me the way.

I definetly see your point in that the higher education can point you in the right direction, but, truthfully, the only return on my investment has been the language training and the ink on the resume, gotta pay bills so yes it may be more important than I ranted about above.

And even with language the best learning came from being on the ground and talking and hearing it all the time. Having native speakers correct me and pure repitition.

Don't sell your books back at the end of the semster, save them, and see in a few years how frequently you refer back to them, mine collect dust but for one.

Cynic, yeah, I plead guilty on this one.:)

[2Sheds_Jackson]

If you're looking for even-handed debate, for true egalitarianism of thought, and for cooler heads to prevail - the halls of academia are exactly the wrong place to look. The University system of the US has fostered radicalism since the Vietnam war, and now the very students who were burning and committing acts of violence are tenured professors. Thankfully I see the private sector de-valuing higher education more and more every year. I doubt very much that America's future leaders are to be found amongst such rabble. Surely they will all find "jobs" somewhere, but with a mentality like that, they will not meet with any success outside of school.

[WarriorMonk]

If you're looking for even-handed debate, for true egalitarianism of thought, and for cooler heads to prevail - the halls of academia are exactly the wrong place to look. The University system of the US has fostered radicalism since the Vietnam war, and now the very students who were burning and committing acts of violence are tenured professors. Thankfully I see the private sector de-valuing higher education more and more every year. I doubt very much that America's future leaders are to be found amongst such rabble. Surely they will all find "jobs" somewhere, but with a mentality like that, they will not meet with any success outside of school.

the exception: doctors.

[deagle]

its definitatly disturbing. Professing love of your G-d is great and all, but there's got to be more than rants. Valid points will better support them better.