Belorussian KGB

[Mr.Russian]

http://kgb.by

Task force "A": http://kgb.by/galery/alfa/

KGB Chief: http://kgb.by/galery/kgb/

KGB Chief (undercover): http://www.dirty.ru/comments/66748

[Abakan94]

ahhhh good olde communism. Thanks mate

[U-S-S-R]

Belarus, a good role model for other ex-Soviet countries. Unemployment, western crime, decandence, lack of patriotism and other deseases of this kind are not known in this country. Lukashenko is even able to keep down the corruption.

Good country, with a superb military for a country of this size.

[Kekkonen]

Very nice photos! *spending some of Lukashenko's bandwith* Who are these guys? KGB is the interior security police right? And Alfa is what, subordinated directly to them?

http://kgb.by/i/photo/gallery/59-big.jpg


Unemployment, western crime, decandence, lack of patriotism and other deseases of this kind are not known in this country.

Police with machine guns... no crime eh?

http://leprosorium.ru/dirty/pics/1/2006-2-21/8206.124001.1140514197.jpg
Decadence...

[)I(EHbKA.]

Belarus, a good role model for other ex-Soviet countries. Unemployment, western crime, decandence, lack of patriotism and other deseases of this kind are not known in this country. Lukashenko is even able to keep down the corruption.

Good country, with a superb military for a country of this size.

x2 Belarus is doing pretty good

[U-S-S-R]

Police with machine guns... no crime eh?



You break the rules, the police comes down on you, HARD. If you are a hardworking citizen, they protect you with machine guns.

Belarus reminds me of Singapore.

[mack pl]

Lukashenko is even able to keep down the corruption.
.

and oposition...he is true Belarussian hero. woot




x2 Belarus is doing pretty good

can I buy you a ticket to this paradise? it seems you like to live under regime....




sorry for off topic, I couldnt resist....

[U-S-S-R]

and oposition...he is true Belarussian hero. woot

Yes, if it's western liberal opposition, formed by the Polish minority and financed by SOROS.

[Lazarou]

Who are these guys? KGB is the interior security police right?

Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti, the State Security Committee - just like back in the good ol' USSR.
Belorussia's beloved leader Lukashenko has a hard-on for Soviet nostalgia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB


And Alfa is what, subordinated directly to them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Group


x2 Belarus is doing pretty good

Lukashenko's Belorussia is an absurd Soviet Union theme park. Political kidnappings, assasinations, no freedom of speech etc etc... There's nothing worth admiring about it.

[liberation]

You break the rules, the police comes down on you, HARD. If you are a hardworking citizen, they protect you with machine guns.

Belarus reminds me of Singapore.

Lukashenko works a whole 5 hours a day.

He spends most of his time in the ice skating ring.

He doesn't work hard so why should his subjects?

[mack pl]

Lukashenko's Belorussia is an absurd Soviet Union theme park. Political kidnappings, assasinations, no freedom of speech etc etc... There's nothing worth admiring about it.


EXACTLY


.......

[Anty komuch]

U-S-S-R don't give me sh*t .
I was in Belarus in December . I was amazed . They are liveing like thied world country .
U talk like good old soviet propaganda .

[U-S-S-R]

EXACTLY


.......

We are talking about livingstandard here. Does it matter that you can say 'Bush / Blair / any other politician, sucks if you live in a trailerpark and you can't go out after dark on the streets in far of being raped or robbed?

The country is obviously in good hands look at it's GDP growth or state security.

[Kekkonen]

The country is obviously in good hands look at it's GDP growth

That is eaten up by the massive inflation though. From CIA's "The World Factbook";


Belarus's economy in 2004-05 posted 6.4% and 7.8% growth. Still, the economy continues to be hampered by high inflation, persistent trade deficits, and ongoing rocky relations with Russia, Belarus' largest trading partner and energy supplier. [...] Growth has been strong in recent years, despite the roadblocks in a tough, centrally directed economy and the high, but decreasing, rate of inflation. Growth has been buoyed by increased Russian demand for generally noncompetitive Belarusian goods.

GDP - per capita: $7,600 (2005 est.)

[mack pl]

We are talking about livingstandard here.

they are far from being paradise...



Does it matter that you can say 'Bush / Blair / any other politician, sucks if you live in a trailerpark and you can't go out after dark on the streets in far of being raped or robbed?


yes, it does matter....but you obviously cant understand it...of course I dont blame you...mr homosovieticus.



sry for OT

[U-S-S-R]

they are far from being paradise...

But they are on their way.





yes, it does matter....but you obviously cant understand it...of course I dont blame you...mr homosovieticus.



sry for OT

Tell that to the 1.5 billion chinese. ;)

Enough OT. :)

[mack pl]

But they are on their way.

nope.....



Tell that to the 1.5 billion chinese. ;)


who cares about chinese

[sayaret267]

Yes, if it's western liberal opposition, formed by the Polish minority and financed by SOROS.

Oh, my God! Another conspiracy! :)

[U-S-S-R]

nope.....




who cares about chinese

I'll give you the last word kiddie. Enough off-topic. This is pic section.

And yes I realize I went off-topic. Sorry, topic starter.

[eucalyptus]

Just look at post #3, that guy went offtopic with his political comments.

[mack pl]

I'll give you the last word kiddie. Enough off-topic. This is pic section.

I am not "kiddie", at least for you.




btw
great pics p-)

[Scottie]

Long Live Stalin!!! (and communism)

[RomanS]

Great photos!

Go Lukashenko!!!

enough with political BS, move on...
I dont think Belarus cares what some Poles or Scandinavians think of them.

[sayaret267]

U-S-S-R, I suppose this is Alfa special forces aresting a criminal, right?
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/6571/20050916t172716z01min01drtrids.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[RomanS]

U-S-S-R, I suppose this is Alfa special forces aresting a criminal, right?
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/6571/20050916t172716z01min01drtrids.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

no this is not Alfa you idiot, stop with FLAMING !!!!

[daily666]

Are you Russians out of your mind or you want to go back to the USSR?

Well obviously what U-S-S-R told is pure BS based on some cheap propaganda. But let's face the facts:


Profile: Europe's last dictator

Belarus began to earn its reputation as Europe's last communist dictatorship in 1996, when Mr Lukashenko used a referendum on constitutional changes to rid himself of an awkward parliament.


Belarus President Lukashenko Orders Foreign Music off Radio. The Belarus Ministry of Information (you guys rememver Iraqi Minister of Information? Belarus has the same one!) has ordered the amount of foreign music broadcast by Belarus radio stations to be reduced, Russia’s NTV television reported. From now on, only two out of every 10 songs played on Belarus radio can be foreign.In the evening when all our people are driving their cars and listening to the radio, the stations must broadcast our product, from our people,” the president said.

Wow that's wonderful of you mr wonderful pres*shyte*dent,


The Last Dictator in Europe? Powerful Belarusan leader with one foot in the Soviet past.

It is evening in a bar on the shores of a small lake and the lights dance on the water. The terraces are crowded with drinkers taking in the views and the sounds of a jazz band. The talk is of family and friends, work and foreign travel.

Welcome to Minsk, capital of the former Soviet republic of Belarus, Europe's last communist dictatorship. Five years ago, President Aleksander Lukashenko's country seemed to be disappearing down an economic black hole following the 1998 financial crisis in neighbouring Russia.

The street lights went out early to save electricity and the hotels were struggling to secure food for breakfast. Today, Minsk is bright with neon signs and the restaurants serve everything from steak to sushi. "Minsk looks better than Warsaw," says Sergei Kostyuchenko, chairman of Priorbank, the only large non-state bank. But not everything is as it seems. Everyday life may no longer be as grim as it was in Minsk, but it remains dreary outside the capital, especially in the shoddy concrete blocks that are home to most Belarusans.

And after 10 years in office, Mr Lukashenko's grip on political life is as tight as ever. Opposition politicians say conditions have deteriorated since the last presidential elections in 2001, with Mr Lukashenko now working to ensure success in parliamentary elections due this autumn and presidential polls planned for 2006.

The European Union's eastward enlargement to Belarus's western border this year has so far done nothing to encourage Mr Lukashenko to pay more attention to western criticisms of his rule. His eyes remain firmly fixed on Russia.

Mr Lukashenko's officials argue that the country's record justifies his hardline policies. Pointing at Russia, they say rapid liberalisation produced corruption and chaos. They add that President Vladimir Putin's efforts to reimpose order prove Mr Lukashenko's slow approach to reform was correct. Sergei Paimtsev, a pro-Lukashenko businessman, says: "Lukashenko has done all the time what Putin is doing only now."

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the region's multilateral bank, ranks Belarus among the least liberal economies in the former Soviet Union with 75 per cent of output still in state hands.

Sprawling state-owned factories such as the Minsk Tractor Plant, with more than 20,000 employees, dominate industry. State-owned farms still run the countryside. Mr Lukashenko often talks of reform but his decisions are contradictory. This year, for example, the government increased its influence by assuming rights to block big decisions at any company in which the state had ever had a stake.

A model for your country U-S-S-R??? Are you out of your mind?

And about "Polish Conspiracy":


“A leader of an ethnic Polish group in Belarus has been jailed for 15 days for illegally meeting a visiting member of the Polish parliament.”

“Is Aleksander Lukashenko so afraid of a tiny ethnic Polish minority that he has to lock them away for merely talking to someone from outside the country?” asks Siberian Light. “Absolutely absurd, and we should be glad that Russia has, so far, not descended to this kind of level.”

Broke in Berlin compares Poland and Belarus border crossing to that of Finland and Russia. The difference is striking.

“Poor, poor Belarus,” Broke in Berlin writes. “In my harder moments, I have little sympathy, thinking it’s up to a nation to set its own fate, and the Belarusians have made their own mistakes, even if getting rid of the dictator is now no easy task (and many don’t appear to want to, anyway).”


President of Belarus Aleksandr Lukashenko, dubbed “Europe’s last dictator” by U.S. Secretary of State Condaleeza Rice, cracked down on Polish opposition organization, as he braces himself for the Sept. 2006 presidential elections. He doesn’t want Belarus to follow any kind of color revolution in the examples of Ukraine and Georgia.

Poland turned to the European Union and Russia to help resolve the political stand-off. Polish government called on Brussels to urge Belarus to respect the rights of national minority in Belarus, which EU did.

“Polish Foreign Minister Adam Rotfeld says a clampdown is under way, aimed at destroying ‘all elements of political pluralism and independence,’ the BBC reported Saturday.”

According to the 1999 census, 396,000 live in Belarus.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus reacted sharply to criticism from EU. “The statements of the European Union and the United States of America on oppression of the nongovernmental organizations that supposedly takes place in Belarus,” the press release said, “are absolutely strained and clearly reflect the double standard policy carried on by the European Union and the United States of America.”

[msnger]

http://kgb.by/i/photo/gallery/64-big.jpg
Flecktarn helmet?

[mack pl]

http://kgb.by/i/photo/gallery/64-big.jpg
Flecktarn helmet?

flectarn cammo cover, but helmet looks like some russian type...Roman may know more about it.

[RomanS]

The helmet is a regular MASKA

the cover i have no idea what the hell it is

[Kekkonen]

http://kgb.by/i/photo/gallery/64-big.jpg

Strange way to wear the sling, and is the selector set to semi-auto or full-auto? Looks like full-auto.

[Son_Of_Suvorov]

Oh, my God! Another conspiracy! :)

It's no conspiracy - that's pretty much the impression I got as well when going through the opposition web sites. They complain that they have little public support because of government censorship, but IMO it is mostly because they are idiots. Belarus really doesn't have any worthwhile "opposition" politicians right now.



Belarus President Lukashenko Orders Foreign Music off Radio. The Belarus Ministry of Information (you guys rememver Iraqi Minister of Information? Belarus has the same one!) has ordered the amount of foreign music broadcast by Belarus radio stations to be reduced, Russia’s NTV television reported. From now on, only two out of every 10 songs played on Belarus radio can be foreign.In the evening when all our people are driving their cars and listening to the radio, the stations must broadcast our product, from our people,” the president said.

So according to this, Canada is an even more oppressive communist dictatorship? Over here the "Canadian content" laws apply not only to radio, but to broadcast, cable and even satellite television.

[U-S-S-R]

Dailly666

Less foreign music is good. Russian music is rich enough in itself. From classical to pop, from rock to rap. Less MTV means less gang-rapes (yes, gangrapes in Rotterdam are connected to the influense rap music has, also Russian rap is nothing like American rap. A lot less hatefull and criminal), less crime in general (Or are you implying that 'Pop pop I shot the damn cop'-line isn't promoting crime?).

Lukashenko is being called 'paranoid' for stomping out opposition. A while ago Condoleeza visited Lithuania and discussed the changes that should be made in Belarus. Not long after that money from Lithuania to 'independent opposition' was detected and confiscated by the KGB.

Belarus a 3 world cesspool? Then why are Americans buying Belorussian traktors and shipping them all the way to the US? :roll:

Despite the economical embargo Belorussia is still making progress, while being hated by the rest. LOL even the Belorussian communist party is hated by communists from western / middle Europe. Hilarious.

[Count Lippe]

So why are you still in Holland?p-)

[asch]

dah! don't tell me about modern russian music. now it's even worse than american.
:P

[GSG9GIGNHKMP5]

Guys, stop bickering about whether communism is great or if free speech matters. Belarus sucks a** because it is highly radioactive. Sure it’s a paradise if you want to glow in the dark. Look at the 70% of the Chernobyl fall-out that fell on Belarus.
http://www.forworldschildren.org/radmap1.jpg
taken from http://www.forworldschildren.org/belarus.html.

[Kvakva]

So why are you still in Holland?p-)
Does it bother you? He can do and live his own life where he wants, what does that has to do with Belarus ? For example i know that life in the UK is better than in Lithuania, but i am not living in UK , so? does that means that UK is "worse"?

Stop it. Dont pretend that you know something taken from internet sites and etc.

Post pics and discuss them.

[Kvakva]

Guys, stop bickering about whether communism is great or if free speech matters. Belarus sucks a** because it is highly radioactive. Sure it’s a paradise if you want to glow in the dark. Look at the 70% of the Chernobyl fall-out that fell on Belarus.
http://www.forworldschildren.org/radmap1.jpg
taken from http://www.forworldschildren.org/belarus.html.

please dont

[)I(EHbKA.]

Lukashenko's Belorussia is an absurd Soviet Union theme park. Political kidnappings, assasinations, no freedom of speech etc etc... There's nothing worth admiring about it.

what the hell do you know about it? in your ****ed up countries they tell that Lukashenko is a dictator and you listen to them like morons, you don't know **** about Belarus


and someone wanted to buy me a ticked to Belarus, go ahead, I'd appreciate that

[mack pl]

they tell that Lukashenko is a dictator


and who he is in your opinion? father of the nation or what? don't be ridicoulous....Belarussia isnt even close to democratic standards...noone gives a **** about living standards(like USSR do)...freedome and democracy are key words, and If you are trying to say, Belarussia under Lukashenko rule is a democratic country, I can only say, that I pity you.

and no, I wont buy you a ticket...I changed my mind...it seems you have some fetish with living under regime...slave nature or what? Im sorry... :petting: I prefer to be poor than being a citizen of nonedemocratic country...


thank you

[Kvakva]

and who he is in your opinion? father of the nation or what? don't be ridicoulous....Belarussia isnt even close to democratic standards...noone gives a **** about living standards(like USSR do)...freedome and democracy are key words, and If you are trying to say, Belarussia under Lukashenko rule is a democratic country, I can only say, that I pity you.

and no, I wont buy you a ticket...I changed my mind...it seems you have some fetish with living under regime...slave nature or what? Im sorry... :petting: I prefer to be poor than being a citizen of nonedemocratic country...


thank you
And this is based on ... your own experience with this country? What do you know? ocause only the REAL truth...

Can you let go of it or not? Do you care so much about Belorus? i dont think so...
So everyone just shut it...

[U-S-S-R]

and who he is in your opinion? father of the nation or what? don't be ridicoulous....Belarussia isnt even close to democratic standards...noone gives a **** about living standards(like USSR do)...freedome and democracy are key words, and If you are trying to say, Belarussia under Lukashenko rule is a democratic country, I can only say, that I pity you.

and no, I wont buy you a ticket...I changed my mind...it seems you have some fetish with living under regime...slave nature or what? Im sorry... :petting: I prefer to be poor than being a citizen of nonedemocratic country...


thank you

Hollow words, my friend. Wait untill you or worse, your family has nothing to eat while you have to provide for them. Think of your small kid crying because he is hungry and you have no job or money to buy him something to eat. Imagine your wife being afraid to step out of the house on her own as she will be raped by a gang of 6 idiots. Imagine yourself being stomped on your head with a lead pipe for your 20 dollar watch. Then you'll be begging to live in a golden cage.

And since when has 'democracy' proved itself inheretly superior to all other forms of rule? Western democracy is fallible, just like all other state forms. Although harder to corrupt, but very possible indeed through media indoctrination etc.

[mack pl]

And this is based on ... your own experience with this country?

of course not...I take my infos from Fox News and Polish TV...happy now? and seriously, If you consider Lukashenko as a democratic president of the democratic country...well, I wont comment it....


USSR, give me a break, are you serious?

[U-S-S-R]

USSR, give me a break, are you serious?

Please give me an answer. Would you like to live in a nightmare scenario I described with freedom of speech, or in a state controlled dictatorship where everybody is equal and little violent crime.

[mack pl]

Please give me an answer. Would you like to live in a nightmare scenario I described with freedom of speech, or in a state controlled dictatorship where everybody is equal and little violent crime.

this question is sensless.

btw
in dictatorship countrys citizens arent equal. Does members of NSDAP, commie party in USSR or Batth party in Iraq were equal with other ppl?

[Dark Avenger]

Well, I thought that we are in a "Strictly Photos And Videos" forum area. I don't care about politics. Here is a link to the Ministry of Defence of Belarus. Nice pics in the gallery section: www.mod.mil.by

[U-S-S-R]

this question is sensless.

btw
in dictatorship countrys citizens arent equal. Does members of NSDAP, commie party in USSR or Batth party in Iraq were equal with other ppl?

Well, ofcaurse some are more equal then others. ;) Just like now in western type democracy.

Speaking of Iraq. How is 'democracy' doing there right now? The conservative muslims already established their Mullah regime in the south already? With the help of democracy ofcaurse.. :roll:

[mack pl]

How is 'democracy' doing there right now?

*yawn*



..............

[Kvakva]

of course not...I take my infos from Fox News and Polish TV...happy now? and seriously, If you consider Lukashenko as a democratic president of the democratic country...well, I wont comment it....


USSR, give me a break, are you serious?
I do not, but i am not runnig around and screaming about democrasy as a answer to all problems.
Why are so caring for Belarus? I dont think you care if lets say about 50 people die in car accidents each day in oh lets say Russia/Poland/USA ... but you suddenly care about democrasy in another country !?

[mack pl]

I do not, but i am not runnig around and screaming about democrasy as a answer to all problems.

I dont do that either...I just sating the facts.

[Kvakva]

I dont do that either...I just sating the facts.
Different facts from differnet sources...
Lets stop talking about politics ... for the 3rd time.

[mack pl]

Different facts from differnet sources...
Lets stop talking about politics ... for the 3rd time.

okay

pozdrawiam

[daily666]

Speaking of Iraq. How is 'democracy' doing there right now? The conservative muslims already established their Mullah regime in the south already? With the help of democracy ofcaurse.. :roll:

Bad, bad, bad democracy! Anyways Belarus is the most commie place in Europe. Period.

Back to pictures. I've written Belarus Special Forces in Google and look what I've come up with:

http://mosnews.com/files/7988/belarus.jpg
http://behrouz.akkasee.com/186.jpg


member of Belarus special forces gets ready to eat a frog during a break in a competition between interior ministry elite troops at the Volovshchina training centre, 20 kms from the capital Minsk, 14 April 2005. AFP PHOTO / VIKTOR DRACHEV



It's not a joke!

[Kekkonen]

http://behrouz.akkasee.com/186.jpg

It's not a joke!

That seems to be a tradition from Soviet times. When I was in the army we had guys from the Baltic countries in our company, during survival traning they ate frogs too. Mildly disgusting.

Didn't your SF in Poland do similar things during the communist era?

[mack pl]

Didn't your SF in Poland do similar things during the communist era?


I havent heard about anything like that, but it doesnt mean it never happened.....

[daily666]

I havent heard about anything like that, but it doesnt mean it never happened.....

x2

Never heard of it.

[Kvakva]

That seems to be a tradition from Soviet times. When I was in the army we had guys from the Baltic countries in our company, during survival traning they ate frogs too. Mildly disgusting.

Didn't your SF in Poland do similar things during the communist era?
s u r v i v a l ;]
You are trained to survive, that includes gathering food even if it runs/swims in raw form ... whats wrong with that ? I doubt SF pillage and plunder enemy cafeteria p-)

[RomanS]

Bad, bad, bad democracy! Anyways Belarus is the most commie place in Europe. Period.

Back to pictures. I've written Belarus Special Forces in Google and look what I've come up with:

http://mosnews.com/files/7988/belarus.jpg
http://behrouz.akkasee.com/186.jpg





It's not a joke!

Why dont you go and change them, and bring them democracy.
otherwise if you cant, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

[mack pl]

Why dont you go and change them, and bring them democracy.


slowly, my friend....step by step, and sooner or later they will be democratic country.

[RomanS]

slowly, my friend....step by step, and sooner or later they will be democratic country.
Thats great
but they still OUR FRIEND !
thats what matters at the end

[mack pl]

Thats great
but they still OUR FRIEND !
thats what matters at the end

you cant be a friend with democratic countries? sad



okay, have a nice day p-)

[perdurabo]

Does it bother you? He can do and live his own life where he wants, what does that has to do with Belarus ? For example i know that life in the UK is better than in Lithuania, but i am not living in UK , so? does that means that UK is "worse"?

Stop it. Dont pretend that you know something taken from internet sites and etc.

Post pics and discuss them.
well if someone says something like "north korea is paradise" sitting in comfy chair in west europe, i will always ask why you don't live there...

[daily666]

well if someone says something like "north korea is paradise" sitting in comfy chair in west europe, i will always ask why you don't live there...

x2

Most "Russians" here don't even live in Russia so they praise the achievments of Lukashenko and Putin from the outside.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Belarus, a good role model for other ex-Soviet countries. Unemployment, western crime, decandence, lack of patriotism and other deseases of this kind are not known in this country. Lukashenko is even able to keep down the corruption.

Good country, with a superb military for a country of this size.

Are you serious :)?

[RomanS]

x2

Most "Russians" here don't even live in Russia so they praise the achievments of Lukashenko and Putin from the outside.

and you forgot that we are PROUD ABOUT IT TOO

and thats what drives you and people like you mad. Otherwise you wouldnt be posting in this thread all pissed off.

[jamaKinson]

Shut up!

All of you! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/legoslaw21/untitled20gp.jpg

:D:D:D:D

[redfox0035]

Are you serious :)?

I think he's.

Nice, clean, small country with effective Army and secret services.

[Mr.Russian]

and you forgot that we are PROUD ABOUT IT TOO


Don't speak for everyone. I am the citizen of Belarus and I've voted with my feet. Many of my friends that I personally know (all young people with high education degrees) did the same. Dictatorship as well as religion are opium for the crowds as well as some hardhead individuals who haven't learned how to spell correctly.

[Nickel1106]

what happend here??
political rants??
stop
just sharing pix plz........

[asch]

well, it seems like some people discuss something.
:)

p.s. anyone remember that is a "Strictly Photos & Videos" section?

[mack pl]

p.s. anyone remember that is a "Strictly Photos & Videos" section?

yes, we do remember.

pozdro

[U-S-S-R]

Shut up!

All of you! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/legoslaw21/untitled20gp.jpg

:D:D:D:D

NU POGODI!!

:D ?

[mack pl]

NU POGODI!!

:D ?

da, wolk i zajc.

pozdr

[U-S-S-R]

A... good old time... :)

[TR1]

NU POGODI!!

:D ?

that was like my favorite cartoon,
the one with the bumper cars, the wolf gets owned by a lion....:)

[daily666]

Shut up!

All of you! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/legoslaw21/untitled20gp.jpg

:D:D:D:D

Now, that was a good one!!!

[Pan_Grzegorz]

I think he's.

Nice, clean, small country with effective Army and secret services.

I read the whole thread and this is really sad. Expect Nu Pagadi of course.

[Lurps]

http://www.starman417.com/russia.jpg

[asch]

Lurps, are you lost? thread about Belorussian KGB, eh?

oh, yes, you are russiphobic fella, i forget.

[Hammaskillah]

Poles and finns shut the **** up you russophobes.
Belarus eats Poland.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Are you serious :)?
The Belarussian military is in a very good shape for sure- ie it's considered as one of the best among the CIS countries.
They also make very interesting upgrades of the Soviet equipment- like BMP-1 with Cobra turret (30mm cannon) or the Osa-1T SPSAM.

[Sergei]

Something tells me that many of our western friends have never been to Belorus but would like to repeat the CNN garbage they get from the news. TV culture idiots.

Belarus MVD and armed forces are kick ass unlike ours, which are in poor condition due to many "reforms" ruining the army.

[Count Lippe]

Does it bother you? He can do and live his own life where he wants, what does that has to do with Belarus ? For example i know that life in the UK is better than in Lithuania, but i am not living in UK , so? does that means that UK is "worse"?

Stop it. Dont pretend that you know something taken from internet sites and etc.

Post pics and discuss them.

No offence mate, I just wanted to know, why he's living in the decadent west, instead of joining his comrades in the glorious worker's paradise...rofl

I Have many friends and colleagues from the former USSR who regularly go back and visit relatives and they don't glorify what's going on there.:|

[mack pl]

Belarus MVD and armed forces are kick ass unlike ours

yeah, Ukrainian MVD and armed forces fuzked up during so called "orange revolution"....if there were Belarussian units there would be no any revolution in Ukraine for sure....bah, there will be no revolution in Belarussia for sure...because every man and woman in Belarussia loves Lukashenko, the father of nation...

btw
Sergei, If we are so wrong about Belarussia, could you educate us? Plz, enlighten us, how super duper this country is, and how Lukashenko is God's blessing for all Belarussians....


regards

[Count Lippe]

NU POGODI!!

:D ?
woot woot woot
Nu Pogodi is the ****!

I love the episode about the Olympics in Moscow 1980! And the one in the film studios is great too!rofl

[CHERK]

Bad, bad, bad democracy! Anyways Belarus is the most commie place in Europe. Period.

Back to pictures. I've written Belarus Special Forces in Google and look what I've come up with:

http://mosnews.com/files/7988/belarus.jpg
http://behrouz.akkasee.com/186.jpg





It's not a joke!


Belarus has excellent SF. Former Soviet 5th Brigade SpN GRU was known as one of the top brigades in USSR which I think is still true after the split.

[Kvakva]

No offence mate, I just wanted to know, why he's living in the decadent west, instead of joining his comrades in the glorious worker's paradise...rofl

I Have many friends and colleagues from the former USSR who regularly go back and visit relatives and they don't glorify what's going on there.:|
Did they lieve USSR then it still existed? or not... I dont expect anything normal from whose who did so, they wont say anything "nice" about past. Plus it is popular now to spill **** all ovet our past ... Germans dont do this about their past but "we" are in front of the planet with such things...

I love Russia and Belarus but i am not living there, so your point would be?
It is this life, it does not matter where he lives.
Why does this matters to you? why all of the sudden Belarus is important to you?

[U-S-S-R]

No offence mate, I just wanted to know, why he's living in the decadent west, instead of joining his comrades in the glorious worker's paradise...rofl

I Have many friends and colleagues from the former USSR who regularly go back and visit relatives and they don't glorify what's going on there.:|

What's your point? The USSR fell apart, a part of population spread out all of over the world. A country is regaining some of it's former glory back. Why shouldn't I say something positive about it? Belarus is one of the few former-USSR country that is doing pretty well.

If you say that live in NZ or Switserland is better then in Germany, does it mean you should immediatly pack your things in leave for that country?

[Count Lippe]

What's your point? The USSR fell apart, a part of population spread out all of over the world. A country is regaining some of it's former glory back. Why shouldn't I say something positive about it? Belarus is one of the few former-USSR country that is doing pretty well.

If you say that live in NZ or Switserland is better then in Germany, does it mean you should immediatly pack your things in leave for that country?

Hahahah Indeed, I'm planning to leave for NZ or Australia, when I'm done with my professional training and studies and don't find a good job...:)

And my point is: You guy's don't live there yourselves and still insist on bashing people from the west who voice their opinion. How do you know it's so great, if you don't live there yourselves? Why do you think you know so much better?

BTW, people who say everything was better under socialism remind me of those who say the Berlin Wall has to be brought back. Those folks live in the past and don't realize that socialism doesn't work in the 21st century...

[U-S-S-R]

Hahahah Indeed, I'm planning to leave for NZ or Australia, when I'm done with my professional training and studies and don't find a good job...:)

If you can find me a well-payed job in Ru/Ukr/Bel I'll leave tomorrow. I'm also busy studying, just like the rest of us. Ne ebi mne mozg. ;)

[mack pl]

Ne ebi mne mozg. ;)

liar............p-)

[daily666]

What's your point? The USSR fell apart, a part of population spread out all of over the world. A country is regaining some of it's former glory back. Why shouldn't I say something positive about it? Belarus is one of the few former-USSR country that is doing pretty well.

Ekhemm...actually it's doing preety bad:

Belarus GDP - per capita - 7,600$ (2005 est.)
Estonia GDP - per capita - $16,400 (2005 est.)
Kazakhstan GDP - per capita - $8,700 (2005 est.)
Lithuania GDP - per capita - $13,700 (2005 est.)
Russia GDP - per capita - $10,700 (2005 est.)

add to that a complete dependace of it's economy on Russia:

Exports - partners: Russia 47%, UK 8.3%, Netherlands 6.7%, Poland 5.3% (2004)

Imports - partners: Russia 68.2%, Germany 6.6%, Ukraine 3.3% (2004).

[Kvakva]

Hahahah Indeed, I'm planning to leave for NZ or
How do you know it's so great, if you don't live there yourselves? Why do you think you know so much better?

We dont but you sure do , right?

[U-S-S-R]

And my point is: You guy's don't live there yourselves and still insist on bashing people from the west who voice their opinion. How do you know it's so great, if you don't live there yourselves? Why do you think you know so much better?

Where did I bash someone unprovoked in this thread? I only gave facts to back my opinion.


BTW, people who say everything was better under socialism remind me of those who say the Berlin Wall has to be brought back. Those folks live in the past and don't realize that socialism doesn't work in the 21st century...

Ah yes.. the poor East-Germans that have no jobs because the West transported all the factories to low-wage countries... ;)



Belarus GDP - per capita - 7,600$ (2005 est.)
Estonia GDP - per capita - $16,400 (2005 est.)
Kazakhstan GDP - per capita - $8,700 (2005 est.)
Lithuania GDP - per capita - $13,700 (2005 est.)
Russia GDP - per capita - $10,700 (2005 est.)

add to that a complete dependace of it's economy on Russia:

Exports - partners: Russia 47%, UK 8.3%, Netherlands 6.7%, Poland 5.3% (2004)

Imports - partners: Russia 68.2%, Germany 6.6%, Ukraine 3.3% (2004).

Moldova (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/md.html) $ 2,100
Ukraine (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/up.html) $ 6,800
Azerbaijan (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/aj.html) purchasing power parity - $4,600 (2005 est.)
Armenia (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/am.html) purchasing power parity - $5,100 (2005 est.)
Georgia (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gg.html) purchasing power parity - $3,400 (2005 est.)


Also don't forget the countries you mentioned are all part of the EU free-trade zone... and unlimited subsidies.. etc..

BTW, I also spent some years in Moldova, besides Ukraine. So that's why I'm glad Belorus is doing so great.

[Count Lippe]

Ah yes.. the poor East-Germans that have no jobs because the West transported all the factories to low-wage countries... ;)

That's the thing I was talking about. Socialism doesn't work in a globalized world. And the east has no jobs because their socialist economy and factories were no match for the west.

[Count Lippe]

We dont but you sure do , right?
I never said I do... I just wanted you to akknowledge that you don't know either...p-)

[Count Lippe]

If you can find me a well-payed job in Ru/Ukr/Bel I'll leave tomorrow. I'm also busy studying, just like the rest of us. Ne ebi mne mozg. ;)
Why? I thought the Belarus economy was doing so well and that there's enough employment...p-)

BTW, what did you say? None, of my Russian friends is online to translate...rofl

[U-S-S-R]

I never said I do... I just wanted you to akknowledge that you don't know either...p-)

Actually we are better judges of the situation. Not only do we have multiple news-sources, but we also are familiar with the lifestyle and can better estimate their current situation.

Just like any Thai living in Holland for all his life can judge Thailand better then me.

[U-S-S-R]

BTW, what did you say? None, of my Russian friends is online to translate...rofl

;) Only time will tell what I said. ;)

[Count Lippe]

;) Only time will tell what I said. ;)

What did he say Mack?p-)

[Count Lippe]

Actually we are better judges of the situation. Not only do we have multiple news-sources, but we also are familiar with the lifestyle and can better estimate their current situation.

Just like any Thai living in Holland for all his life can judge Thailand better then me.

All I know about this issue comes from people like you...:)

[U-S-S-R]

All I know about this issue comes from people like you...:)

You racist! People like me éh? ;)

Well, everybody is entitled to his own opinion, I assume most of your russian friends are from Kazachstan / Volga region? I lived closer. :P

[Raptus_regaliter]

What did he say Mack?p-)
Nicely put, it means don't screw with me.
or it doesn't matter.

[daily666]

Ok guys it's useless let this thread die.

[Sergei]

What did he say Mack?p-)

He said you should not f u c k his brains, that is saying total nonsense. I agree with him but I would use rather mild terms to describe same thing. Some smart people actually live in a country first and then go passs out judgements. Have you ever lived in Belarus? I highly doubt that.

[DIU]

Ekhemm...actually it's doing preety bad:

Belarus GDP - per capita - 7,600$ (2005 est.)
Estonia GDP - per capita - $16,400 (2005 est.)
Kazakhstan GDP - per capita - $8,700 (2005 est.)
Lithuania GDP - per capita - $13,700 (2005 est.)
Russia GDP - per capita - $10,700 (2005 est.)

add to that a complete dependace of it's economy on Russia:
Exports - partners: Russia 47%, UK 8.3%, Netherlands 6.7%, Poland 5.3% (2004)
Imports - partners: Russia 68.2%, Germany 6.6%, Ukraine 3.3% (2004).

Such a game of figures is deceptive. The Baltic countries are characterized by very strong social differentiation now. I.e. 10% live at the “European” standards, the majority live in poverty. The considerable part of population works abroad as “gastarbaiters” (possibly, washing German or British water-closets is a well-paid job, but I wouldn’t be envious of this “free and democratic” choice).
Also very expensive communal services (rent, payment for water and heating etc.) as a result of extremely “liberal” privatization. The huge gap between capitals and “province” (the Lithuanian or Latvian little towns and, especially, country live probably worse than in Belarus, almost all their active population has already moved to the capitals or abroad). Very nasty moral atmosphere and the undermost birth rate in Europe.

As to the “complete dependence of Belarussian economy on Russia”, Russia has a market economy during many years and the Belarussian goods have no preference over the goods of the Russian companies. They are bought because they are competitive. In fact the Belarussian export to EU is almost the same as to Russia. And it would be higher unless the prohibitive tariffs of EU for many Belarussian goods.

[Count Lippe]

You racist! People like me éh? ;)

Well, everybody is entitled to his own opinion, I assume most of your russian friends are from Kazachstan / Volga region? I lived closer. :P
Yes people like you. People who come from the east and live in the west.:cantbeli:

p-)

Yes, most of them are from Kazakhstan, but many of them studied in Minsk, and other "European" cities of the USSR.

[Baron Harkonnen]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2586/0000492kk.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8459/0000502jz.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4007/0000511jq.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9522/0000536jb.jpg

[Smok]

Ekhemm...actually it's doing preety bad:

Belarus GDP - per capita - 7,600$ (2005 est.)
Estonia GDP - per capita - $16,400 (2005 est.)
Kazakhstan GDP - per capita - $8,700 (2005 est.)
Lithuania GDP - per capita - $13,700 (2005 est.)
Russia GDP - per capita - $10,700 (2005 est.)

add to that a complete dependace of it's economy on Russia:

Exports - partners: Russia 47%, UK 8.3%, Netherlands 6.7%, Poland 5.3% (2004)

Imports - partners: Russia 68.2%, Germany 6.6%, Ukraine 3.3% (2004).

One more thing. These data about Belarus are false. Why? Because belarusian ruble doesn't match restrictions of International Monetary Fund so this currency isn't "clearly" exchangeable like Euro, polish Zloty or USD. So data about GDP in Belarus are too high because they were founded on official - internal (not international) value (exchange rate) of ruble.
For example in Poland in 80`s (end of communistic regime) our official salary was around $300 but real salary was about $15-30!

[Kvakva]

Yes people like you. People who come from the east and live in the west.:cantbeli:

p-)

Yes, most of them are from Kazakhstan, but many of them studied in Minsk, and other "European" cities of the USSR.

And ofcause this makes them the ultimate source of truth.
You make your opinion on stories and tales...
Noone asks yout to like Belarus, but dont point to others how they should live ...

[Corsar]

Such a game of figures is deceptive. The Baltic countries are characterized by very strong social differentiation now. I.e. 10% live at the “European” standards, the majority live in poverty. The considerable part of population works abroad as “gastarbaiters” (possibly, washing German or British water-closets is a well-paid job, but I wouldn’t be envious of this “free and democratic” choice).
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Also very expensive communal services (rent, payment for water and heating etc.) as a result of extremely “liberal” privatization. The huge gap between capitals and “province” (the Lithuanian or Latvian little towns and, especially, country live probably worse than in Belarus, almost all their active population has already moved to the capitals or abroad).

I'm living in Estonia and I'm astonished of your "information". Do you have any concrete link to these "facts" or You just suppose so? By statistics of dec 2005 there is only 15 000 persons have left to work abroad from 2003 to 2005 - is it significant? Unfortunately I have found some links only in estonian to prove it. And I can ensure, there is no majority of population doesn't live in poverty in Estonia. Of course there are differencies in incomes of people like everywhere, but it doesn't mean poverty.
Don't read only Putin-minded sources of information, try to find others :) !
The most difficult times there were in 1990-ies in Estonian rural areas where the soviet kind of economy (farms - kolkhozes) was fallen apart and a new system didn't work well yet. Now there are re-established the farms and other establishments in rural areas and there are lot of to do. People are finding the traditional and normal ways of life again, and this isn't an easy way, but this is not poverty!
Your information is totally wrong!

[Kvakva]

I'm living in Estonia and I'm astonished of your "information". Do you have any concrete link to these "facts" or You just suppose so? By statistics of dec 2005 there is only 15 000 persons have left to work abroad from 2003 to 2005 - is it significant? Unfortunately I have found some links only in estonian to prove it. And I can ensure, there is no majority of population doesn't live in poverty in Estonia. Of course there are differencies in incomes of people like everywhere, but it doesn't mean poverty.
Don't read only Putin-minded sources of information, try to find others :) !
The most difficult times there were in 1990-ies in Estonian rural areas where the soviet kind of economy (farms - kolkhozes) was fallen apart and a new system didn't work well yet. Now there are re-established the farms and other establishments in rural areas and there are lot of to do. People are finding the traditional and normal ways of life again, and this isn't an easy way, but this is not poverty!
Your information is totally wrong!

I can speak for Lithuania, that a lot is leaving it for UK, they just work there, mostly without "contracts" , illegally( it depends if you get lucky). Most leave as students for summer, but not everyone desides to return.
If you compare with UK for example , then you will have that many live in "poverty"- ofcause it does not mean that they are sturving, but than you have a pension of 300-400 lt and in winter and you pay for 1room flat about ~300 lt + you have to eat, clothes etc. i consider it poverty.

With my "clean" encome of 2500 lt witch is considered - very good, it is still sometimes a problem to afford different things. And i have friends who work in UK as a plain construction workers, guess who makes more and lives "better" ? :)
And once more - for you poverty means one thing for me another.

Plus STOP ALREADY WITH POLITICS !!! this is Strictly Photos & Video.
IF you want to discuss about this with me you are welcome to pm...

[Son_Of_Suvorov]

I'm living in Estonia and I'm astonished of your "information". Do you have any concrete link to these "facts" or You just suppose so? By statistics of dec 2005 there is only 15 000 persons have left to work abroad from 2003 to 2005 - is it significant? Unfortunately I have found some links only in estonian to prove it. And I can ensure, there is no majority of population doesn't live in poverty in Estonia. Of course there are differencies in incomes of people like everywhere, but it doesn't mean poverty.
Don't read only Putin-minded sources of information, try to find others :) !
The most difficult times there were in 1990-ies in Estonian rural areas where the soviet kind of economy (farms - kolkhozes) was fallen apart and a new system didn't work well yet. Now there are re-established the farms and other establishments in rural areas and there are lot of to do. People are finding the traditional and normal ways of life again, and this isn't an easy way, but this is not poverty!
Your information is totally wrong!

Well, speak for Estonia. In Latvia there are officially over 50,000 people working abroad right now, and according to a public poll done last month a lot more people are considering it. This of course completely ignores people who are working abroad illegally (I won't speculate on figures but my hunch is it's a lot). This is a real problem when there are only 1.3-1.4 million people of working age, a number which is shrinking rapidly (median age is 40, population growth and migration rates are both negative).

[daily666]

Ok forget about the politics. IMHO one of the best looking piece of armoured stuff is made in Belarus: Minochod/Stalker 2T. I've heard it's been made by a private Minotor of Belarus. Not sure if it's true but it uses Polish PCO optics and warning systems.

http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-02.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-03.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-05.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9118/2t32vr.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5332/2t47lw.jpg

[Alan]

Ok forget about the politics. IMHO one of the best looking piece of armoured stuff is made in Belarus: Minochod/Stalker 2T. I've heard it's been made by a private Minotor of Belarus. Not sure if it's true but it uses Polish PCO optics and warning systems.

http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-02.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-03.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-05.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9118/2t32vr.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5332/2t47lw.jpg

Beautiful AFV, heard it's got a range of over 1000 km.

[Mr.Russian]

Just an example how KGB image is STILL powerful in Belarus AND Russia:

Popular Russian blog dirty.ru removed photoshop jokes about Belorussian KGB chief from its site.

Some reference (in Russian): http://www.dirty.ru/comments/68044

[Snoshi]

Just an example how KGB image is STILL powerful in Belarus AND Russia:

Popular Russian blog dirty.ru removed photoshop jokes about Belorussian KGB chief from its site.

Some reference (in Russian): http://www.dirty.ru/comments/68044

and shows how much freedom they have..

[Kvakva]

and shows how little freedom you they have..
You dont sleep/eat because of that?!
WTF is wrong with you? go to politics and discuss it there not here!!

You scream and get pissed if someone start this bull*censored* in a "western" topic, but you are all over this one with politics, freedom of speech ?!
Pictures and photos , strictly...

[asch]

Just an example how KGB image is STILL powerful in Belarus AND Russia:

Popular Russian blog dirty.ru removed photoshop jokes about Belorussian KGB chief from its site.

Some reference (in Russian): http://www.dirty.ru/comments/68044
veery interesting link.
really.
content is kinda different from proclamed.
hehe.

[Snoshi]

You dont sleep/eat because of that?!
WTF is wrong with you? go to politics and discuss it there not here!!

You scream and get pissed if someone start this bull*censored* in a "western" topic, but you are all over this one with politics, freedom of speech ?!
Pictures and photos , strictly...

watch the others 7 pages....

[Kvakva]

watch the others 7 pages....
oh, ofcause others are doing it why should you not ? :backhand:
nevermind ...

[CPL Trevoga]

You guys are very impatient. Just 15 years ago, Belarus was still in the USSR and before for a thousand of years it was under the Tsars and you want a democracy overnight? For that kind of transition to go smoothly will take time,
look at Russia. They jumped into "democracy" thing and look what happend. Wars, economic decline, crime. Now "democracy" is almost a dirty word. On the positive note, Belorussia is not BSSR, if you don't like it, you can leave freely, which what most talented people tend to do and they have the internet and girls are very beautiful. You can thank God for the simple things like that.

[Smok]

Russia and democracy? No! They were trying to change into democratic country but they stopped it in the middle. So they did worst thing you can ever do. Stopping reorganisations in the middle point is foolish.
Compare economy, GNP and other things Poland, Czech Republic and Russia.
We were starting at almost equal postions. But now...

[Baron Harkonnen]

---GNP and other things Poland, Czech Republic and Russia.

Nothing better in Poland to tell about.

[ShadowCrow]

Nice pics!

I was in Belarus this past spring. Saw some of those "kgb"guys upp close. nasty. Many things in that country made deep impressions on me.

[Smok]

---GNP and other things Poland, Czech Republic and Russia.

Nothing better in Poland to tell about.

What do you expect? Should I say that guys in Poland have bigger ****s than guys in Russia?

[JVeld]

I just love the fact that they are the only ones from the former soviet bloc that kept the ' KGB ' name ....lol

[daily666]

I just love the fact that they are the only ones from the former soviet bloc that kept the ' KGB ' name ....lol


well that says a lot...! I have a family in Horodno (Grodno) and everytime I meet them I hear some back-to-the-USSR sh*t. They're even afraid of criticising the president openly.

[Musashi]

---GNP and other things Poland, Czech Republic and Russia.

Nothing better in Poland to tell about.
Inflation in Poland is 1.1%. Compare it to Russia. Russia has better growth, but it's counterbalanced by much bigger (than in Poland) inflation.

[Baron Harkonnen]

Inflation in Poland is 1.1%. Compare it to Russia. Russia has better growth, but it's counterbalanced by much bigger (than in Poland) inflation.

I don't very interested in such figures, I was in Russia, Belorussia and Polland and can definetly say the Poland has noting to boast of. Some of the people here don't even know were the Belorussia is but still maiking their conclussions of how bad they live.

[Smok]

The problem with Belarus is that older part of society (commies) don't want to change anything because they are afraid of it. Young people know that Belarus can't be heritage park any longer. Belarus will have to change their economy and political system because if they won't do this country will colapse in next 15-20 years. World is going ahead and no one will wait for museum in the centre of Europe. China already knows it and is changing into capitalistic country. Belarus is going backward. It is dead end. Change now or it will be even more painfull.
In next 20 years Ukraine will be in UE and will be country with GDP around 2-3 times higher than today. And Belarus... Will Belarus be modern country or ancient museum like Ethiopia?

[Kvakva]

The problem with Belarus is that older part of society (commies) don't want to change anything because they are afraid of it. Young people know that Belarus can't be heritage park any longer. Belarus will have to change their economy and political system because if they won't do this country will colapse in next 15-20 years. World is going ahead and no one will wait for museum in the centre of Europe. China already knows it and is changing into capitalistic country. Belarus is going backward. It is dead end. Change now or it will be even more painfull.
In next 20 years Ukraine will be in UE and will be country with GDP around 2-3 times higher than today. And Belarus... Will Belarus be modern country or ancient museum like Ethiopia?
And why not let it be? Let them live like that , time will tell. Why are so "overworked" about another country? Will you sleep better or eat or will get paid more if they would be "democratic" ?

[Smok]

OK. Let them live. But that older part of society will die and people who are young today will have to live in great junk. That is the problem. We can't listen 50-60 years old people. They will not have to face consequences of Lukashenko. Young people will have to do it.

[nick_ua]

We can't listen 50-60 years old people. They will not have to face consequences of Lukashenko. Young people will have to do it.

how about you finnaly stop bubling about the crap you have no freaking clue.
Following Harkonnen point I've been in all countries Russia Belorusia Ukrainne Chezh Poland Hungary.

And my observation is the *censored**censored**censored**censored*ies place so far is poland.
And made my first trip there in 90 and them keep on going once an year, so put your *censored**censored**censored**censored* away about great country ever, cause it's only one country in Eastern europe who does exactly what US asked them to do.

[Kvakva]

OK. Let them live. But that older part of society will die and people who are young today will have to live in great junk. That is the problem. We can't listen 50-60 years old people. They will not have to face consequences of Lukashenko. Young people will have to do it.
We all gonna die someday and i cannot predict the future what will "young" people do...
Oh man give it a rest!!! come on already - leave Belarus alone.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

We all gonna die someday and i cannot predict the future what will "young" people do...
Oh man give it a rest!!! come on already - leave Belarus alone.

You have some right. Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality. That's a different civilization. For them a few pounds of potatos are more important than values like freedom, democracy, self respect.

[Kvakva]

You have some right. Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality. That's a different civilization. For them a few pounds of potatos are more important than values like freedom, democracy, self respect.
WTF are talking about? Completly idiotic ...
I am a russian so how i am suppose to understand your words? that i am an idiot ? second class?
Whats wrong with different values ? I have ones you have different...
What does it have to do with self respect?
Am i tellin YOU how to live? do you tell your neighbour how to live?
You should think before you post such .... comments. But ofcause YOU are CHOSEN

[Igor01]

Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality. That's a different civilization. For them a few pounds of potatos are more important than values like freedom, democracy, self respect.

Priceless. Perfect proof of what I wrote in another Belorus thread a while ago (copied below for your convenience, my esteemed Ubermensch):

Poland has a certain illusion of grandeur, believing that it's the spearhead of civilization, the last frontier before the vast expanses roamed by asiatic barbarians in dire need of enlightened rule for their own good.

Be it forced Polonisation and conversion to Catholic faith in the 14-17th century, enthusiastic march to Moscow with Napoleon's army in 1812, attempt to establish a puppet regime in Ukraine in 1920, plans to make land grabs in Lithuania and Soviet Ukraine in 1938 or this new found amplois of wise teacher of democracy and freedom - Poland invariably steps on the same garden rake, gets a good wack on the head and immediately proceeds to complain how it's not fair.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73517

[Pan_Grzegorz]

WTF are talking about? Completly idiotic ...
I am a russian so how i am suppose to understand your words? that i am an idiot ? second class?

I didn't say that. Only very different.


Whats wrong with different values ? I have ones you have different...
What does it have to do with self respect?

Well, If someone live in a country, where someone decide for example what he is/isn't allowed to read and that guy enjoy It then he doesn't have much of self respect.


Am i tellin YOU how to live? do you tell your neighbour how to live?

That's my point. Poles don't understand that most of people in Belarus think different. Poles think that they want freedom and democracy, only evil Lukashenko and a few of his thugs don't let them have It.



You should think before you post such .... comments. But ofcause YOU are CHOSEN

Exactly.

[nick_ua]

That's my point. Poles don't understand that most of people in Belarus think different. Poles think that they want freedom and democracy, only evil Lukashenko and a few of his thugs don't let them have It.

Well, If someone live in a country, where someone decide for example what he is/isn't allowed to read and that guy enjoy It then he doesn't have much of self respect.
priceless.
it's like, I like letters, I like to create a new words from these letters, and then combain these letters to the sentences, but I don't give a s**t that people have no idea what I'm saying

[asch]

Originally Posted by Pan_Grzegorz
You have some right. Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality. That's a different civilization. For them a few pounds of potatos are more important than values like freedom, democracy, self respect.
such, mm... fashionable values for now.
but every political force proclamed these values (xcpt (in some rare cases)democracy, whatever is it), and none of the existing government models have all of them in full means.
so, those values is a cheap excuses for expanding political/economical/whatever influence. word of liars for another liars.

methink motto "let people live as they want" is clother enough to concept of "freedom".
you, people, as that annoying guys who knock at your door and try to sell you any crap.
"See that? Democracy, absolutely new, enhanced performance, must be in every modern house, comfortable and efficient! in addition we give you international corporations, who eat all your small business, eu restrictions, all other sort of free democratic crap!"
i just say them "bye" and close my door.
:P

p.s. i think you are too much of nationalsit. enough for "racist" statement.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

You have some right. Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality.

Wait... So now Eastern Slavs are 'Asian Tribes'? You have your own private version of history or something?

[nick_ua]

Wait... So now Eastern Slavs are 'Asian Tribes'? You have your own private version of history or something?

Dude our friend showing some knowledge of russian history, so he is refering to Tataro Mongol invasion.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Dude our friend showing some knowledge of russian history, so he is refering to Tataro Mongol invasion.

So Belarussians are more Mongolian than Slavic? :)

[Schizo]

So Belarussians are more Mongolian than Slavic? :)

According to his logic... :roll:

[asch]

You have your own private version of history or something?
Seems more like his own private version of brain fever.

p.s.
Brzeczyszykiewicz - fcukin nice avatar you have. :)

[Pan_Grzegorz]

priceless.
it's like, I like letters, I like to create a new words from these letters, and then combain these letters to the sentences, but I don't give a s**t that people have no idea what I'm saying

What do you mean ? You don't understand what I wanted to say ? Well, my English is definately not perfect.

My point was that someone, who need a "dear leader", who will decide what is and what isn't good, doesn't have respect for himself.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

methink motto "let people live as they want" is clother enough to concept of "freedom".
you, people, as that annoying guys who knock at your door and try to sell you any crap.


Me ? In fact I more or less agree with you.




p.s. i think you are too much of nationalsit. enough for "racist" statement.

Ok. Sorry for Asian tribes :)

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Wait... So now Eastern Slavs are 'Asian Tribes'? You have your own private version of history or something?

That was a little provocation, but in my opinion our estern brothers really are politacally closer to China than to EU or US.
Besides I don't say anything wrong with being Asian.

[Baron Harkonnen]

---this country will colapse in next 15-20 years.

This can be said about Polland with the same effect.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

This can be said about Polland with the same effect.

Dude, first of all It's Poland, besides within next 15-20 years we will dominate the world :)

[Drako]

Poland has a certain illusion of grandeur, believing that it's the spearhead of civilization, the last frontier before the vast expanses roamed by asiatic barbarians in dire need of enlightened rule for their own good.

Be it forced Polonisation and conversion to Catholic faith in the 14-17th century, enthusiastic march to Moscow with Napoleon's army in 1812, attempt to establish a puppet regime in Ukraine in 1920, plans to make land grabs in Lithuania and Soviet Ukraine in 1938 or this new found amplois of wise teacher of democracy and freedom - Poland invariably steps on the same garden rake, gets a good wack on the head and immediately proceeds to complain how it's not fair.


Hehe, picking some examples without presenting the realities of those times is just a manipulation of facts. Chritianisation? That was done by all countries in Europe. At least we were turning them with the Cross, not with blade and fire as Teuton Knights used to. March o Moscow? Russians were occupying Poland in that time, for speaking polish in Poland you could die. I guess our soldiers more than enthusiastic to raze Moscow to the ground. Lithuania and Ukraine? Those were our lands for centuries - 80 years ago we were doing what Russia is doing with Chechenia today. You didn't prove anything.

[Igor01]

Hehe, picking some examples without presenting the realities of those times is just a manipulation of facts. Chritianisation? That was done by all countries in Europe.

No, Catholic countries did that, Orthodoxy never forced itself upon anybody. Why not recall the events of 1768, for example, when the Russian demand to provide religious freedoms to Protestant and Othodox Christians (a very significant segment of the population) enraged the Catholic leadership and resulted in a full-scale war?


Russians were occupying Poland in that time, for speaking polish in Poland you could die.

I'd love to see some proof of that, you wouldn't mind providing it, would you?

Nobody can blame Poles for striving for independence, however by accepting Napoleon's Duchy of Warsaw arrangment Poles effectively gave up their right to decide their own fate for themselves since Napoleon was not in a hurry to grant Poland statehood, hell he even shafted Poles with the Prussian debt (Bayonne) crippling Polish economy already strained to the limit by his demands of more conscripts for his army. This is the cornerstone of Polish policy throughout the last 200+ years, offer herself to whoever appears to be the "king of the hill" at the time in hopes of becoming grand again. Hence the enthusiastic march to Moscow even though it was a war fought for somebody else's interests and paid for by large amounts of Polish blood. Hmmm, even the Polish anthem is the song of Polish legions "spreading freedom and democracy" for Napoleon's "war on terror" in Italy's...


Lithuania and Ukraine? Those were our lands for centuries - 80 years ago we were doing what Russia is doing with Chechenia today. You didn't prove anything.

If this looks like a valid argument to you then perhaps you would find it equally valid if Russia attempted to take over Poland because it "was our land for centuries".

As for your analogy with Chechnya - please refresh my memory as to when between 1917 and 1938 Lithuania or Ukraine conducted a state-sponsored (I repeat, officially sponsored) mass expulsion of Poles, allowed thousands to be killed, raped, and sold into slavery in the Kiev and Vilnius city markets, declared an official course to establish an Islamic jaamat on Polish territory, adopted sharia law and staged an invasion into Poland proper to light the flame of jihad in Poland. That's only the main points, we won't even get into little things like multi-billion financial schemes, weapon and drug smuggling, affording escaped criminals a refuge, robbing all cargo transit routes and even the passenger trains, abducting thousands for ransom from across the border etc.

[RomanS]

You have some right. Poles should understand that these Asian tribes have just... Asian mentality. That's a different civilization. For them a few pounds of potatos are more important than values like freedom, democracy, self respect.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? She would be ashamed to hear it.

But us Asian tribes can still own your skinny ass bitches

[EvanL]

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? She would be ashamed to hear it.

But us Asian tribes can still own your skinny ass bitches
All the way from the luxury of the Nevada desert?

[NKVD]

All I can say is that I play computer games and pwn Poland players all the time!

[RomanS]

All the way from the luxury of the Nevada desert?

hey cocksoket ,
go grab your underaged boyfriends, go to your offtopic and humor, make some crying threads about me, and photoshop some photos.

Nevada is nice! At least I can have tons of guns and ammo. And gamble when i want. But you cant, shouldnt you be in school now?

[EvanL]

hey cocksoket ,
go grab your underaged boyfriends, go to your offtopic and humor, make some crying threads about me, and photoshop some photos.

Nevada is nice! At least I can have tons of guns and ammo. And gamble when i want. But you cant, shouldnt you be in school now?
School is on strike. Why so jumpy? Forgot to take your insulin?
Why don't you take your pics and leave like you did before. All you do is bitch and moan. All praise mother russia! I mean Nevada!

[RomanS]

School is on strike. Why so jumpy? Forgot to take your insulin?
Why don't you take your pics and leave like you did before. All you do is bitch and moan. All praise mother russia! I mean Nevada!
well if it makes your ****** bleed more, there are pills for menstrual pain out there.

and if you hate to see us Russians being proud of our motherland - there are things we could say that describe you perfectly. Its just... you are not even worth of them.

anyways, have a coke and a smile

[EvanL]

well if it makes your ****** bleed more, there are pills for menstrual pain out there.

and if you hate to see us Russians being proud of our motherland - there are things we could say that describe you perfectly. Its just... you are not even worth of them.

anyways, have a coke and a smile
Hate you for being proud of Russia? No in fact it makes me happy to see people proud of their countries. But when someone who doesn't even live in that country acts all huff n puff and smug about it, then it pisses me right the f* off.
Sorry Roman, but you need to crawl back under that couch in your shag carpetted living room. And take your pics with you, nobody cares.

[NKVD]

And take your pics with you, nobody cares.

actually, some of us DO CARE and come to this forum for pics unlike your troll ass

[ed316]

I don't care....

[daily666]

Will you let this thread die???

[NKVD]

I don't care....

So get the phk out then!

[TR1]

Will you let this thread die???

the smartest thing said in the last several pages.

[EvanL]

So get the phk out then!
http://www.texashealth.org/ContentStore/PHK-Lucy.jpg
PHK?

[ed316]

So get the phk out then!

Of course NKVD, nice to know that someone who uses a name that killed many of their own countryman. I bet you live in America too. Oh the Irony

[eucalyptus]

Yeah what is phk? All this Quake talk is confusing

[EvanL]

Yeah what is phk? All this Quake talk is confusing
Some russian thing. We wouldn't understand. And they won't even bother because we are not worthy of their knowledge! We are too far ahead technologically and socially to even begin to grasp what they mean! For we are mortal beings, unlike the russian race!

[mack pl]

All I can say is that I play computer games and pwn Poland players all the time!

you rocks times 10

[Pan_Grzegorz]

But us Asian tribes can still own your skinny ass bitches

Russia strong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Schizo]

Russia strong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poland, the land of the chosen people! WEAK! woot

[LaoSexMachine]

Russia crush you!!!!!!! From America of course.

[mack pl]

this thread should be moved to OT&H section

[LaoSexMachine]

agreed, it's funny

[NKVD]

you rocks times 10

you betcha

http://www.european-combat-league.com/modules.php?name=NukeLadder&op=ladderhome&sid=24

[asch]

this thread should be moved to OT&H section
trash can seems more appropriate.
;)

[mack pl]

Chck Norris rocks

http://www.kolista.pl/~piotrek/chuck.gif



sorry for OT

[mack pl]

you betcha

http://www.european-combat-league.com/modules.php?name=NukeLadder&op=ladderhome&sid=24

congrats mate :)

[EvanL]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1042/russiastrong9sn.jpg

[Drako]

No, Catholic countries did that, Orthodoxy never forced itself upon anybody. Why not recall the events of 1768, for example, when the Russian demand to provide religious freedoms to Protestant and Othodox Christians (a very significant segment of the population) enraged the Catholic leadership and resulted in a full-scale war?

Hmm, we had freedom of faith and all religions had equal rights. You think why we had so many Jews in Poland?

I'd love to see some proof of that, you wouldn't mind providing it, would you?

You didn't read anything about partitions of Poland, did you?

Nobody can blame Poles for striving for independence, however by accepting Napoleon's Duchy of Warsaw arrangment Poles effectively gave up their right to decide their own fate for themselves since Napoleon was not in a hurry to grant Poland statehood, hell he even shafted Poles with the Prussian debt (Bayonne) crippling Polish economy already strained to the limit by his demands of more conscripts for his army. This is the cornerstone of Polish policy throughout the last 200+ years, offer herself to whoever appears to be the "king of the hill" at the time in hopes of becoming grand again. Hence the enthusiastic march to Moscow even though it was a war fought for somebody else's interests and paid for by large amounts of Polish blood. Hmmm, even the Polish anthem is the song of Polish legions "spreading freedom and democracy" for Napoleon's "war on terror" in Italy's...

We were just catching a chance. Our leaders were aware of limited independence of Duchy, but it was still better than no Poland at all and was giving a chance to get full independence in the future. It was much better option than no freedom at all under german and russian rule

If this looks like a valid argument to you then perhaps you would find it equally valid if Russia attempted to take over Poland because it "was our land for centuries".

Never ever has Poland fully belonged to Russia. Russia had only part of Poland for 123 years. Where did you get your centuries? Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Poland were one country since XIV till XX century.

As for your analogy with Chechnya - please refresh my memory as to when between 1917 and 1938 Lithuania or Ukraine conducted a state-sponsored (I repeat, officially sponsored) mass expulsion of Poles, allowed thousands to be killed, raped, and sold into slavery in the Kiev and Vilnius city markets, declared an official course to establish an Islamic jaamat on Polish territory, adopted sharia law and staged an invasion into Poland proper to light the flame of jihad in Poland. That's only the main points, we won't even get into little things like multi-billion financial schemes, weapon and drug smuggling, affording escaped criminals a refuge, robbing all cargo transit routes and even the passenger trains, abducting thousands for ransom from across the border etc.

I wanted to say it's similar, not the same. Part of your country want to get independence. It's quite natural that your government will try to stop that. There were lots of Poles in those territories (ie. Vilnus and Lvov were mostly inhabited by Poles). It doesn't matter if I agree with it or not but Pilsudski's decision was understandable.




Anyway, we went off topic ;) We can continue this discussion on PM.

[ed316]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1042/russiastrong9sn.jpg


hahhahahahahah rofl rofl rofl rofl I bet he is hung over

[RomanS]

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/9431/lol4vu.jpg

[daily666]

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/9431/lol4vu.jpg


WTF?????? the message is too short blah blah blah

[ed316]

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/9431/lol4vu.jpg

Didn't know Russia had a big Guido population.

[Brute]

Didn't know Russia had a big Guido population.


Didn't know you considered NJ to be a part of Russia. :roll:

[daily666]

This thread is way OT...

[ed316]

Didn't know you considered NJ to be a part of Russia. :roll:

My joke was too smart for you then. Next time I'll add a pirate so you can understand. How about this? p-) Happy?

[RomanS]

ed316
just looked at your profile

Total Posts: 6,090 (43.81 posts per day)

jesus, do you have life?

[EvanL]

ed316
just looked at your profile

Total Posts: 6,090 (43.81 posts per day)

jesus, do you have life?
hahaahhaha
where is yours?
did you have to check your own profile to make sure his was higher than yours before posting?

[ed316]

ed316
just looked at your profile

Total Posts: 6,090 (43.81 posts per day)

jesus, do you have life?

I'm at work. Where you need to be.

BTW, thax for reminding me. Didn't realise I was up to 6 grand.

[RomanS]

hahaahhaha
where is yours?
did you have to check your own profile to make sure his was higher than yours before posting?

I actually laughed at this.
That was funny. Cause yeah, i did check mine before lol
rofl

you canadian mook

[EvanL]

I actually laughed at this.
That was funny. Cause yeah, i did check mine before lol
rofl

you canadian mook
Well for someone as insecure as yourself it was a given for that to have been your course of action.

[TR1]

http://policecanada.ca/Canada/CPpolice12_PB.jpg

wft?

[Brute]

My joke was too smart for you then. Next time I'll add a pirate so you can understand. How about this? p-) Happy?

Please do. Next time, when telling *cough* jokes" *cough* make sure to tell me when to laugh... :cantbeli:

[NKVD]

here's the one I submitted to leehotti.com and sherdog.net

http://www.armedassault.org/Alizee.gif

[EvanL]

http://policecanada.ca/Canada/CPpolice12_PB.jpg

wft?
Totally unrelated but I will answer anyways.
Canadian National has it's own police force.
http://www.cn.ca/about/community/rail_safety_community/cn_police/en_ComCNPoliceHistory.shtml

[ed316]

Please do. Next time, when telling *cough* jokes" *cough* make sure to tell me when to laugh... :cantbeli:

Laugh? Please if you did I couldn't hear you any ways. My computer doesn't have E-ears on it.

[jamaKinson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/legoslaw21/homomono7on.jpg

[asch]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4349/dftt7kh.jpg

[ruspecnaz]

Same ppl wasting another thread...so fcuk them.

[ed316]

This thread was wasted long time ago. Russia strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1one1111

[sir-chimp]

Russia crush you!!!!!!! From America of course.


Oh the irony of that

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Poland, the land of the chosen people! WEAK! woot


Weak not !!!!!!!!!! Strong too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Russia crush you!!!!!!! From America of course.

You see ? They are already taking over America, so you better stop laughing at them !

[Schizo]

You see ? They are already taking over America, so you better stop laughing at them !

Speaking about taking over foreign countries...LOL rofl

[1911-a1]

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/9431/lol4vu.jpg



I bet this is the rest of the gotti kids

[Baltic]

Ok, time for some music. Lets sing together.

Ладно сшит и крепко сложен
Он плохому не научит
Батька всех построить может
Батька всех других покруче

Разведет легко обиды
Он надежен и спокоен
Только глянет - сразу видно
Кто у нас хозяин в доме

припев

На-на-на-на-на-на...
Слушай Батьку!
Утром, ночью, и днем...
Слушай Батьку!
Если плохо тебе...
Слушай Батьку!
Если все хорошо...
Слушай Батьку!!!!!

http://home.sol.se/luft/slushai_batku.avi

[Igor01]

http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:epQtZvYwJQCHwM:supol.narod.ru/archive/humor/images/Lukashenko.jpg

He won't even have to kick their ass, he'll just stare them down p-)

[daily666]

and back to offtopic: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4790814.stm

Igor my Russian friend explain why is it necessary to jail the opposition when the frontrunner is so ahead in election polls. I just want to know.

[-CROAT-SOLDIER-]

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7281/sucks19nq.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sucks19nq.jpg)

[Russianpatriot]

Why everybody in west is paying so many attention to democracy in belorussia?How about democratic help to some african countries or asia(china?:roll:) where peoples rights are in a lot worser situation than in Belorussia. I have visited Belorussia a lot of times and its sutuation a lot better than even in Russia, i mean that people live a lot better, theres much less poor and less rich ex bandits as it is in Russia.Belorussian people are one nation, so it feels that all people care about others what not seen in Russia. So, stop your stupid arguments.

[mack pl]

Why everybody in west is paying so many attention to democracy in belorussia?

beacuase its in Europe, and they are our neighbours?



How about democratic help to some african countries or asia(china?:roll:) where peoples rights are in a lot worser situation than in Belorussia.

who told you that we dont care about them, or dont trying to help them? but its obviousl that we care much more about european country.


I have visited Belorussia a lot of times and its sutuation a lot better than even in Russia, i mean that people live a lot better, theres much less poor and less rich ex bandits as it is in Russia.Belorussian people are one nation, so it feels that all people care about others what not seen in Russia.

I am sorry for Russian people, but it doesnt change the fact I feel pity for Belarussians.


So, stop your stupid arguments.

and vice versa

[Drunkensquid]

can anyone guess who is going to win the belorus elections?:)))

[Russianpatriot]

I meant help in other way like sending money to oposition what USA does.Because whiles there lukashenko, at least there no "privatizacia" and people have work.
But its good to see that our european friends care about their slavic brothers:hug:.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Speaking about taking over foreign countries...LOL rofl

What ?????????

[Schizo]

What ?????????
No offence, but look at the amount of immigrant Poles all over the world!

And you even dare talking about "taking over America..." LOL, the irony.

[daily666]

No offence, but look at the amount of immigrant Poles all over the world!

And you even dare talking about "taking over America..." LOL, the irony.


Most of them left as there was no Poland on the map of Europe, that's why there's a big Polish diaspora around the world. Poland had no independance for 128 years from the end of 18th century till 1918 in 20th century, and than after only 20 years it lost it's independance for another 50 (till 1989). In both cases Russia (or USSR) and Germany (or IIIrd Reich) played it's main role. People immigrated because there was no freedom in Poland in much every aspect.

[mack pl]

Poland had no independance for 128 years

123


siadaj, pała p-)

[MrX]

Why everybody in west is paying so many attention to democracy in belorussia?How about democratic help to some african countries or asia(china?:roll:) where peoples rights are in a lot worser situation than in Belorussia. I have visited Belorussia a lot of times and its sutuation a lot better than even in Russia, i mean that people live a lot better, theres much less poor and less rich ex bandits as it is in Russia.Belorussian people are one nation, so it feels that all people care about others what not seen in Russia. So, stop your stupid arguments.

They are simply stupid and blind, repeating all this democracy bl bla bla... The real reason for this rumour with Belarus is that Belarus has no foreign debts, Belarussian companies are not privatized (read: sell dirt-cheap to international jewish owned companies like in case of Poland) and are in good conditions, Belarussian economy grows very fast, criminal activity in Belarus is almost totally anihilated (in physical terms also, by death squadrons), unemployment factor is lowest in Europe -1,5% (in UE lowest is in Ireland with 4,5%) etc.etc. So these guys which stay behind globalisation, unification (UE) and finally New World Order, really hate Belarus and provoke, f.g. some stupid Poles, to fight for democracy in Belarus. In real Polish interest is long live of Lukashenka regime.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

No offence, but look at the amount of immigrant Poles all over the world!

And you even dare talking about "taking over America..." LOL, the irony.

Dude, we are just protecting against Russian invasion.

BTW Why the hell did you kill Jesus ?

[Pan_Grzegorz]

(read: sell dirt-cheap to international jewish owned companies like in case of Poland)

Shalom alehem.

[Schizo]

Dude, we are just protecting against Russian invasion.

BTW Why the hell did you kill Jesus ?

Who is this Jesus guy ?

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Who is this Jesus guy ?

Your master :)

[Schizo]

Your master :)

So that means I killed my master?

[daily666]

123


siadaj, pała p-)

*censored**censored**censored**censored* that's because of my hangover, my bad ;)

[LaoSexMachine]

They are simply stupid and blind, repeating all this democracy bl bla bla... The real reason for this rumour with Belarus is that Belarus has no foreign debts, Belarussian companies are not privatized (read: sell dirt-cheap to international jewish owned companies like in case of Poland) and are in good conditions, Belarussian economy grows very fast, criminal activity in Belarus is almost totally anihilated (in physical terms also, by death squadrons), unemployment factor is lowest in Europe -1,5% (in UE lowest is in Ireland with 4,5%) etc.etc. So these guys which stay behind globalisation, unification (UE) and finally New World Order, really hate Belarus and provoke, f.g. some stupid Poles, to fight for democracy in Belarus. In real Polish interest is long live of Lukashenka regime.

The spirit of Uncle Joseph is strong in you.

[Pan_Grzegorz]

So that means I killed my master?

No, after 3 days his dad made him alive once again. You can't even kill a guy well enough.

[Schizo]

No, after 3 days his dad made him alive once again. You can't even kill a guy well enough.

You're a Polyak, show me how to kill properly, please pleaseeeee ...

[Pan_Grzegorz]

You're a Polyak, show me how to kill properly, please pleaseeeee ...

How much will you pay me for that ?

[Schizo]

How much will you pay me for that ?

Damn Polyaks, always thinking about the money...greedy bastards p-)

[NKVD]

They are simply stupid and blind, repeating all this democracy bl bla bla... The real reason for this rumour with Belarus is that Belarus has no foreign debts, Belarussian companies are not privatized (read: sell dirt-cheap to international jewish owned companies like in case of Poland) and are in good conditions, Belarussian economy grows very fast, criminal activity in Belarus is almost totally anihilated (in physical terms also, by death squadrons), unemployment factor is lowest in Europe -1,5% (in UE lowest is in Ireland with 4,5%) etc.etc. So these guys which stay behind globalisation, unification (UE) and finally New World Order, really hate Belarus and provoke, f.g. some stupid Poles, to fight for democracy in Belarus. In real Polish interest is long live of Lukashenka regime.

quoted for truth!

[Pan_Grzegorz]

Damn Polyaks, always thinking about the money...greedy bastards p-)

Almost like Js.

[mack pl]

In real Polish interest is long live of Lukashenka regime.


please, dont tell us what is in our best interest.

[Dima-RussianArms]

please, dont tell us what is in our best interest.
Based on this and these (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73517, http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75240) threads you, as well as other poles and others don't have a problem with telling Belorussians what is in their best interest, so why can't MrX have an opinion what is best for your country?

[mack pl]

Based on this and these (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73517, http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75240) threads you, as well as other poles and others don't have a problem with telling Belorussians what is in their best interest, so why can't MrX have an opinion what is best for your country?


he can and he did tell us what he think, but it doesnt mean I have to like his opinion.

[Dima-RussianArms]

he can and he did tell us what he think, but it doesnt mean I have to like his opinion.
So basically when you/others tell him/them what to do and how to live it is fine and Belorussians should be in eternal gratitude for you "showing them the light" but when the roles are reversed - you throw a hissy fit...?

Double standards... I see you have already learned that from your new masters.

[mack pl]

"showing them the light"

I like this sentence.....well, you may be right about double standards. I cant help it. Noone is perfect, Im sorry.




I see you have already learned that from your new masters.

*yawn*


pozdrawiam

[Dima-RussianArms]

Noone is perfect, Im sorry.
You are right: No one is perfect, but your kind seems to be much further from it.

[mack pl]

You are right: No one is perfect, but your kind seems to be much further from it.

wow, what a lame attempt to insult....try harder, Dima


mimo to pozdrawiam

[RomanS]

wow, what a lame attempt to insult....try harder, Dima


mimo to pozdrawiam

speak english!

[mack pl]

speak english!

nope



pozdrawiam

[EvanL]

nope



pozdrawiam
Jahn Szary says don't bother talking to a brick wall. ;)

[mack pl]

Jahn Szary says don't bother talking to a brick wall. ;)

Janek, not Jahn...... p-)


anyway, okay

[tony6]

What a nice thread. I haven't been for a while on MP.net but it seems that some things never change. Good to be home.

BTW: Mack pl - do you know that you have already over TEN THOUSAND posts???
Christ! Get a life, dude!

[mack pl]

BTW: Mack pl - do you know that you have already over TEN THOUSAND posts???
Christ! Get a life, dude!

yes, I know...and I dont have time for life...too much office work, dude.

[MrX]

Based on this and these (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73517, http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75240) threads you, as well as other poles and others don't have a problem with telling Belorussians what is in their best interest, so why can't MrX have an opinion what is best for your country?

Dima, in my previous opinions you were "anti-polish bastard" (and, for clarification, I am pro-polish basicly and pro-russian also despite polish-russian historical and current problems), now I hope that you are not anti-polish generally and understand that these few polish guys (gays?) here are not representative for whole Polish population... I know personally many Poles which are deeply patriotic and anti-soviet (anti-communist), but not anti-russian at whole, which is not easy with such things like Katyn case etc. These people understand perfectly all this things about Belaurssia rumour...

[Inflatable Infidel]

Ok, dont kill me.. i know this is old ass topic, but still i wanted the pictures and went to the Belarus KGB site, their now where to be found, has anybody got the pictures posted in this topic, the initial ones, KGB team practicing to storm a plane, posing with stechkin's etc? And if somebody actually has them, please upload and share!

Thanks.

[Mormaeglin]

Necroposting ;) sadly dear friend this thread about Belarusian KGB lacks such pictures, and to say the truth I doubt that anybody will post something here any time soon ;)

[Inflatable Infidel]

Necroposting ;) sadly dear friend this thread about Belarusian KGB lacks such pictures, and to say the truth I doubt that anybody will post something here any time soon ;)
Trust me, the PAGE had these pictures, but not any longer.

Bye.