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Uncle Sam
03-02-2004, 09:43 AM
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20040302/D8129KUO0.html



KARBALA, Iraq (AP) - Simultaneous explosions ripped through crowds of worshippers Tuesday at Shiite Muslim shrines in Baghdad and the holy city of Karbala, killing at least 125. It was the bloodiest day since the end of major fighting.

The blasts came during the Shiite festival of Ashoura and coincided with a shooting and bomb attack on Shiite worshippers in Quetta, Pakistan that killed at least 29 people and wounded more than 150.

Police and witnesses said the Iraqi blasts were caused by explosives planted near holy sites in Karbala and the Kazimiya shrine in Baghdad, though some people blamed suicide bombers.

"We were standing there (next to the mosques) when we heard an explosion. We saw flesh, arms legs, more flesh. Then the ambulance came," said Tarar, an 18-year-old in Karbala who gave only one name.

The attacks produced a wave of Shiite outrage - much of it directed at U.S. troops in the Iraqi capital. American soldiers who arrived at Kazimiya were attacked by angry crowds throwing stones and garbage, injuring two Americans.

"This is the work of Jews and American occupation forces," a loudspeaker outside Kazimiya blared. Inside, cleric Hassan Toaima told an angry crowd, "We demand to know who did this so that we can avenge our martyrs."

U.S. intelligence officials had been concerned about the possibility of militant attacks during Ashoura. Last month, U.S. officials released what they said was a letter by Jordanian militant Abu Mousab al-Zarqawi outlining a strategy of spectacular attacks on Shiites, aimed at sparking a Sunni-Shiite civil war.

Iraq's Governing Council blamed the attacks on "terrorists" trying to enflame sectarian divisions in the country.

In a show of unity, Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish council representatives appeared before journalists, calling on Iraqis to be calm "in order to cheat our enemies of the chance to inflict evil on the nation."

Council member Adnan Pachachi suggested that the signing of a newly agreed interim constitution, expected on Wednesday, would be delayed until after a three-day period of national mourning.

Also Tuesday, insurgents threw a grenade into a Army Humvee as it drove down a Baghdad road, killing one 1st Armored Division soldier and wounding a second. The death brings to 548 the number of U.S. service members who have died since the United States launched the Iraq war in March. Most have died since President Bush declared an end to active combat May 1.

The blasts in Karbala killed 50 to 60 people, said Adel Abdel-Mahdi, a senior member of a Shiite political party represented on the governing council. The nearly simultaneous bombings in Baghdad killed at least 75 people, he said. Hundreds were wounded in both cities.

In Karbala, 50 miles south of Baghdad, five large blasts went off shortly after 10 a.m. near the golden-domed shrine of Imam Hussein, one of Shiite Islam's most beloved saints, and another shrine. The explosions hurled bodies in all directions and sent crowds of pilgrims fleeing in panic.

Dead and wounded were loaded onto wooden carts normally used to ferry elderly pilgrims to holy sites. Bodies ripped apart by the force of the blasts lay on the streets.

At about the same time, three explosions went off inside and outside Baghdad's Kazimiya shrine, which contains the tombs of two other saints. Panicked men and women, dressed in black, fled screaming and weeping as ambulances raced to the scene.

Crowds of enraged survivors swarmed nearby hospitals, some blaming Americans for stirring up religious tensions by launching the war, others blaming al-Qaida or Sunni extremists.

Stone-throwing Iraqis attacked Army medics trying to help wounded at Kazimiya, driving the U.S. troops back into their high-walled compound then trying to storm the gates. Soldiers threw smoke grenades and fired shotguns into the air to drive the mob off.

The Ashoura festival, which marks the killing of Hussein in a 7th century battle, is the most important religious period in Shiite Islam and draws hundreds of thousands of pilgrims from Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and other Shiite communities to the Iraqi shrines.

Iran condemned the blasts as "terrorist" and "vicious" attacks, according to Iranian state radio. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said the United States and its allies are "responsible for security" for the pilgrims at Karbala and in Baghdad.

In Beirut, a spokesman for Iraq's leading Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, blamed American soldiers for the attacks, saying they were responsible for the security. Sheik Hamed Khafaf said U.S. officials had ignored repeated requests to bolster security for the pilgrims.

"Those behind this painful incident have no links with Islam ... The criminal who target innocents and Muslims in this holy place and on this pure land is not a Muslim," said Ali Abdul-Karim al-Safi al-Musawi, an al-Sistani representative in Basra, in southern Iraq.

There were contradictory reports on the cause of the blasts. The U.S. military initially said four mortars struck around the Kazimiya shrine, but a spokesman later said it was not certain mortars were to blame.

Ibrahim, the deputy interior minister, said the blast at Kazimiya was caused by bombs, not mortars, and witnesses in Karbala also blamed planted explosives or suicide bombers.

One witness in Karbala, identifying himself only as Sairouz, said a bomb buried under rubbish went about a dozen yards from him. "Many Iranians were killed," he said.

Iranians who are primarily Shiites have flooded into Iraq to visit holy shrines that had been closed to them during the rule of ousted leader Saddam Hussein.

The Kazimiya blasts went off inside the shrine's ornately tiled walls and outside in a square packed with street vendors catering to pilgrims. The courtyard inside was strewn with torn limbs. The street outside was littered with picnic baskets brought by pilgrims and thousands of shoes and sandals belonging to worshippers who had been praying inside.

Hundreds of gunmen swarmed around the shrine, and a U.S. helicopter hovered above. Black mourning banners traditional in Ashoura celebrations hung in tatters. Posters of prominent Shiite clerics were stained with blood.

In the southern city Najaf, near Karbala, police Monday night found and defused a bomb hidden near the shrine of Imam Ali, the most important Shiite saint, Iraqi Police Capt. Imad Hussein said.

The Najaf shrine was attacked on Aug. 29 by a massive car bomb that killed more than 85 people, including Shiite leader Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim.

In the letter released by the U.S. military last month, al-Zarqawi, an extremist believed linked to al-Qaida, wrote that stepped up attacks were needed to disrupt the planned handover of power to the Iraqis on June 30.

Mouwafak al-Rubaie, a Shiite member of the Iraqi governing council, told CNN that Tuesday's attacks bore al-Zarqawi's fingerprints.

"This is a message from Zarqawi to the Iraqi people and we received the message. It is written in blood now," al-Rubaie said after visiting the Baghdad shrine.

Also Tuesday, a land mine exploded in the Abu Nawas neighborhood of Baghdad, damaging a car used by the Arab television station Al-Jazeera and lightly wounding several staffers.

One?
03-02-2004, 11:58 AM
I guess not only the US is looking for bin laden now. F%%* taliban ****heads :bash:


RIP

Sixgun Symphony
03-02-2004, 12:22 PM
"This is the work of Jews and American occupation forces," a loudspeaker outside Kazimiya blared. Inside, cleric Hassan Toaima told an angry crowd, "We demand to know who did this so that we can avenge our martyrs."


This likely came from the Sunni muslims that have been the source of the insurgency in Iraq.

The Shiites don't like US, but I think that they will be open to evidence of Sunni muslim culpability here.

I think the large majority of Shiites can be the answer to the Sunni muslim insurgency. We just need to recruit more and more of the Shiites for police officers to keep the Sunni muslim minority in line.

Ichhabe
03-02-2004, 01:41 PM
Sixgun Symphony said:



I think the large majority of Shiites can be the answer to the Sunni muslim insurgency. We just need to recruit more and more of the Shiites for police officers to keep the Sunni muslim minority in line.

In your dreams.

That is an too easy answer to a to troublesome question.

I think that many of these terrorist attacks are made by people that sees it as against their interest that any peaceful solution enters Iraq.

These are people that are if one can put it a little bluntly, "not your good old fashioned" terrorists.
I think that they are just in this for the money. It is in their interest that there will be no effective government ruling, cause then their cash flow would come to a hault.
(see Lebanon during their civil war.)

One?
03-02-2004, 01:55 PM
Most of the insurgents came from outside of Iraq. The ba'ath party didn't even fight the coalition why would they carry out suicide attacks. The insurgents are fron ansar-al-islam and al-qaeda.


They blamed it on the US and the west because they were angry, thats the first thing that came up on their mind. But now they found out that there were 2 suicide bombers that entered a mosque in baghdad....


The sunnis of iraq condemned the attacks. Foreign powers are trying to start a civil war in iraq so recruiting more shia then sunni is a big no no.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
03-02-2004, 01:58 PM
"This is the work of Jews and American occupation forces," a loudspeaker outside Kazimiya blared. Inside, cleric Hassan Toaima told an angry crowd, "We demand to know who did this so that we can avenge our martyrs."

Thats the stupidest thing I've heard all year, how come always the dumbest dude has the loudspeaker (and how come people believe him) :cantbeli:


Stone-throwing Iraqis attacked Army medics trying to help wounded at Kazimiya, driving the U.S. troops back into their high-walled compound then trying to storm the gates. Soldiers threw smoke grenades and fired shotguns into the air to drive the mob off.


This also doesnt make any sense to me what so ever, "Hey guys, lets try to stone the medic's to death that are helping people!". :cantbeli:

Its unfortuneate that they are not using the brain to the full potential, in fact reading things like this make me wonder if they even use it at all. Like why would Americans plant bombs to make there life more difficult?




Last month, U.S. officials released what they said was a letter by Jordanian militant Abu Mousab al-Zarqawi outlining a strategy of spectacular attacks on Shiites, aimed at sparking a Sunni-Shiite civil war.


Somethings just never change...

Ichhabe
03-02-2004, 02:15 PM
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð wondered:



This also doesnt make any sense to me what so ever, "Hey guys, lets try to stone the medic's to death that are helping people!".

Its unfortuneate that they are not using the brain to the full potential, in fact reading things like this make me wonder if they even use it at all. Like why would Americans plant bombs to make there life more difficult?


This can also be interpreted as "shock".

People that has "experienced" a traumatic experience may some times do unlogical things. Like attacking one that try to help. We were once attacked by relatives to some injured people that had been in a car crash. We had to fight off 5-6 grown up men that came over to "set things strait."

They also want to "react" to what they have been through. And the closest one to "blame" is the foreign soldier that is closest.
Somehow they can put the blame on him. And they need to do it aswell.

These reactions are "normal", but: All this can be explained better by some with better psychology knowledge than I.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
03-02-2004, 02:29 PM
I guess or you can credit it to the effect a large crowd people lose there individuality and become "sheeple"...all it takes is one to throw one rock and boom..you got them all throwing rocks.

I've been threw some tramatic experiences, nothing like they went threw though. But when my house burnt down, you certainly didnt see me attacking firefighter's.

Truthsayer
03-02-2004, 02:57 PM
I've been threw some tramatic experiences, nothing like they went threw though. But when my house burnt down, you certainly didnt see me attacking firefighter's.

But maybe the latino punks standing in the streetcorner looking and laughing? [Even though it later was show it burnt down from electric mailfunction?]


Anyway - guess this will teach some of the racists on this board that 'muslim' isn't the same thing as 'terrorist'.