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UkrainianSpetsnaz
05-08-2003, 08:29 PM
Hey guys. My name is Igor. I am originally from the Ukraine. I am a huge military enthusiast. But Im only an enthusiast for Russian and Ukrainian stuff. I have just finished reading my 68th book about WWII on the Eastern Front. I am a huge huge huge enthusiast.

I am a huge enthusiast of modern military stuff. On my PC I gots well over 2,800 Pics of Russian and Ukrainian Troops in Action, + Tanks, +Airplanes, +SPA, and more.

Here is a taste. Hope you like.

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/2MarinesSarajevo.jpg
Two Ukrainian Marines in Sarajevo. With a grenade launcher on top of a building.


http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/DA-SD-02-00352.jpg
Ukrainian Troops on croud control training.


http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/DA-SD-02-00353.jpg
My boys ready for action.


http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/2.jpg
Ukrainian Special Police and Special Forces Unit - Berkut

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/3.jpg
Berkut

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/4.jpg
Berkut Snipers. My friend is in Berkut SF. He is a sniper. He cant tell me much, but after 12 years of listening to him I am impressed beyond comprehension. To be a Berkut Sniper, you gotta shoot 98% Accuracy.

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/6.jpg
Berkut Sniper and Recon team.

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/7.jpg
Berkut Special Police

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/9.jpg
Berkut Police - Kickin Ass takin names

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/12.jpg
Berkut Police

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/Igor/UA/10.jpg
Berkut Police.

UkrainianSpetsnaz
05-08-2003, 09:01 PM
Well I see everyone likes to look. But how come nobody comments?

Duke
05-08-2003, 09:20 PM
GREAT ****-ING SETS OF PICS!!!
Tells your view on how the Russians handled the theatre hostage situation in Moscow

stuntman
05-08-2003, 10:07 PM
I was wondering what kind of helmets, body armor, and camo are the croud control grunts or Ukrain soldiers use? THX really nice pic they look HollyWood!

Ichhabe
05-08-2003, 10:29 PM
Who's training in Crowd controle with assault rifles and grenade launchers????????????????????????????????????

UkrainianSpetsnaz
05-09-2003, 12:28 AM
Heheheh the crowd control pics, arent exactly what I meant. They are training for crowd contol in situations like Sarajevo, Kosovo, and stuff. From watching TV here in the US, I see Americans do the same croud contol in Iraq, they have M-16's.


About the Moscow theater situation. I believe that it could have been much much worst. I dont agree with the use of the damn gas, that was gay. But... if the building would have been blown up by those nazi chechens it would have been horrible. I dont know how much you guys saw of the force that surrounded the theater. It was around 800 OMON and ALFA guys. When Russia deals with a problem, they deal with it in force. Some of my friends back home said the numbers are more like 1100. So... Im just glad more people didnt die.

elguapo
05-09-2003, 01:37 AM
Who's training in Crowd controle with assault rifles and grenade launchers????????????????????????????????????

That's the only way to go when it comes down to crowd control!
I mean it's darn efficient!

:)

Piccolo
05-09-2003, 02:27 AM
Sorry to be a armchair commando, but damn those pics of the Ukraine soldiers in crowd control are pretty horrible in terms of firearm saftey, and discipline for that matter (Many have their fingers on the trigger). I have much respect for many countrys Military's, but it would appear the conscript system just doesn't work too well for the Europeans, in some cases. That is, in terms of regular conventional units, most SOF units have considerably higher standards, no matter what country.

Ichhabe
05-09-2003, 07:42 AM
Why not "crowd-controle" like this? This is from Kosovo, and it is not training.

http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/Norwegian_Infantry_in_Kosovo/Setter_opp_linje.jpg

He219
05-09-2003, 08:45 AM
Nice Pic's. UkrainianSpetsnaz!

In the Crowd Control pictures, the guy with the American Woodland Camo and M16 - what's the deal with him; Is he some sort of renegade? All the other dudes seem to have Soviet Issue equipment.

p-)
-He219

UkrainianSpetsnaz
05-09-2003, 09:48 AM
Well there were about 30 Americans there supervising the training, the training took place in Kosovo. When you deal with a crowd that wants to kill you, you need to have your finger on the trigger.

And no that aint soviet issue uniforms. Ukraine has different uniforms sinse 1991.

Thank u Ichhabe - Very nice example of crowd control

Thank you He219. I hope I answered your question above. This was during a tarining exercise in Kosovo.

The pics of Berkut, are in Kiev, on a training ground. They train on taking over trains, subways, busses, taxis, and airplanes.

Dmitri
05-09-2003, 11:05 AM
Cool pics man! Do you happen to have some Alfa or Vympel pics as well??

I think the operation with hostages was tragic, but I don't see what else could they do. I mean the theater was loaded with explosives, if some strong gas wasn't used ALL the hostages and the rescuers would die. I read somewhere that even SAS and other special operaion units considered the operation successful.

Dennis G
05-10-2003, 12:30 AM
Great Pics PLZ post more.
Like Dmitri said anything on Alfa, Vympel, Spetsnaz, OMON or more on the Ukrainian troops that would be great.

Dennis

Piccolo
05-10-2003, 12:44 AM
When you deal with a crowd that wants to kill you, you need to have your finger on the trigger.

Well I would respectfully disagree. You NEVER put your finger on the trigger untill you are about to shoot, and your target is infront of the weapon. Unless these guys have a grudge against the sky.. I think perhaps they aren't the best trained in firearm saftey and trigger discipline. JMHO anyway..

Royal
05-10-2003, 03:18 AM
Got to agree with Piccolo

When you deal with a crowd that wants to kill you, you need to have your finger on the trigger.

Well I would respectfully disagree. You NEVER put your finger on the trigger untill you are about to shoot, and your target is infront of the weapon. Unless these guys have a grudge against the sky.. I think perhaps they aren't the best trained in firearm saftey and trigger discipline. JMHO anyway..

The former WarPact forces are going through a massive change to line up doctrinaly and standards wise with NATO. I've seen some very impresssive units on Ops/Ex with NATO now (Czech, Polish and Russian Para's in particular), but with others there's a fair way to go.

(By the way, I'm talking about line units here not SF)

Zach R.
05-10-2003, 04:12 AM
Maybe they've got it on Safe?

Royal
05-10-2003, 05:19 AM
Maybe they've got it on Safe?

So what?

Bad drills, slack habits. If you get into slack habits, you make f**k ups.

Sabre
05-10-2003, 10:48 AM
True. Slack drills are slack drills. Even if you are posing for the camera.

The hostage situation was unfortunate. But then all hostage situations are. There needs to be a comprimise between the safety of the hostages and the safety of the troops.

Here, with the sheer scale of the undertaking, it would be impossible to have a similtaneous entry like in Princess Gate. Gas was the only way of ensuring an advantage. If there was no gas used, then the ensuing firefight would have killed most of the hostages, and given the chechens time to use the explosives. As it happend, there was still an hour long battle in the building after entry.

It is a fact that none of the hostages were killed by OMON/Alpha gunfire and all of the terrorists were eliminated. That must be a success.

The criticism from some quarters that the russians shot the terrorists in the heads while they were unconscious is not justified. Our lads would have done the same. What are you going to do? Wait until they wake up and set off their explosives?

I heard that one little boy was so scared that he ran crying to the door. At which point the rebels shot him dead. What was he going to do? Could an 8 year old give the dispositions and armament of all the terrorists away to the authorities? I think not.

Well done OMON, good job Alpha.

woodland
05-11-2003, 02:09 PM
Seriously... they are worse than those uber-sucky Hungarians.....

The reason I say this is because 98% is not sucha big deal in the world of special forces. Hey, I can shoot 250 of 300, and I am only a cadet. And that's with iron sights, not a scope! No bipod or sling either! Big deal....

Anyway, since when is a 5.45mm bullet acceptable for crowd control? That thing tears you up worse than a 5.56 because it tumbles like crazy once it hits you. Remember the first M16's used by advisors in Vietnam? remember how there where reports of 5.56mm bullets taking off people's arms and heads? Since then the design is different for better long range accuracy, but back then they tumbled like crazy! Fragmentation was bad too.....

waize
05-21-2003, 10:54 AM
ichabe: look here, you american also do crowd control with m16/m203.
.http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2003/Marines/DM-SD-03-07907.JPG

MEGR
05-21-2003, 02:02 PM
The top pic has a pair of soldiers with a grenade launcher. Could someone identify the grenade launcher with its name, and ammo?

Ichhabe
05-21-2003, 05:27 PM
I am NOT an American, NOR do I plan to be one.

THEKING
05-21-2003, 05:59 PM
AGS-17, usually fires a frag VOG-17, VOG-17M or VOG-30.

He219
05-21-2003, 06:01 PM
Devgru77:

That's a 30mm AGS-30 automatic grenade launcher system

Here is another pic...
http://www.shipunov.com/shipunov-e/str/grenades/images/ags30.jpg

Intended to engage manpower located in the open, in trenches and on reverse slopes of the terrain, and soft-skinned war materiel by high-performance fragmentation ammunition. The weight of the weapon, which is twice as less that of the first-generation AGS-17 grenade launcher, has made it possible to enlarge the ammunition load, to reduce the crew from three to two men, and to increase the weapon mobility and flexibility. Small dimensions of the grenade launcher allow it to conceal the fire position, rapidly change it, and deliver fire from window openings.


p-)
He219[/quote]

He219
05-21-2003, 06:08 PM
Here is a
AGS-17 in case I'm wrong

http://www.rusarm.ru/Simages/Ags17s.jpg

The AGS-17 operates on the blowback principle. The GL is equipped with a rifled quick-disconnected barrel.
The casualty radius with 0.9 kill probability is about 7 m.

p-)
He219

waize
05-21-2003, 06:30 PM
ichabe: I'm sorry, but since you dont have an location, I suppose you were american

He219
05-21-2003, 07:51 PM
ms - the funny thing is that Ichhabe is Norwegian too. Don't mind him though. He seems to get all hot and bothered about Americans just about most of the time....

p-)
He219

MEGR
05-21-2003, 10:07 PM
Sweet! Thanks for the feedback. :D

Piccolo
05-21-2003, 10:31 PM
ichabe: I'm sorry, but since you dont have an location, I suppose you were american


He does have a location.. and has had one since he has first posted here. Not to mention, pictures of himself and unit are in the Photo Gallerys, identifying himself as Norwegian.

Ichhabe
05-22-2003, 03:48 AM
ms - the funny thing is that Ichhabe is Norwegian too. Don't mind him though. He seems to get all hot and bothered about Americans just about most of the time....

p-)
He219

Hot and bothered about Americans?!?!?! You got it all wrong.
I get hot and bothered by some of the American foreign politics, and not by Americans. As I can see it, that is a huge difference.
I've never said that I've been bothered by Americans, and if so I would never have comed to this site in the first place. I would never submitted photos here, I would never bothered to answer you. American culture has influenced my country in both positive and negative ways. That is called; being part of the world. So not confuse being against some of the American policy as being against Americans. How many are there in the world? 250 millions? 260 millions?? Cant be against all of them. But I do not like Rumsfeld and some other politicians. Gotta be that honest.

The Kop
05-29-2003, 05:50 PM
I am intested in collecting russian military gear (helmet, uniform , vest....etc) can anyone help?

since there are little to offer on the market ... :(

Trigger
05-29-2003, 07:01 PM
You could always join the Russian Army. ;)
...but then you might collect some Chechen bullets.

He219
05-29-2003, 07:14 PM
You could always join the Russian Army.
...but then you might collect some Chechen bullets.
rofl

He219
05-29-2003, 07:44 PM
The Kop,

Try:
http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-wear_summer.htm
http://www.russianstore.net

peoplesliberationarmy
06-07-2003, 07:56 AM
thanks for pics.
I like it

peoplesliberationarmy
06-07-2003, 07:59 AM
I am intested in collecting russian military gear (helmet, uniform , vest....etc) can anyone help?

since there are little to offer on the market ... :(

check this (http://www.sonicbbs.com/war/boarddisplay.asp?BoardID=6&Page=1)

This is an net market

koster
06-08-2003, 11:31 PM
Those are new Kevlar helmets (Skif, or Sfera-S-R, not sure thu) on the first pics "Crowd Control"
and also, those are regular MAHRA units, so, don't expect them to act like SF units (dont put their finger on the trigger and stuff like that....)

BTW, wasn't that Berkut spetsnaz made of OMON operatives that got fired and stuff, after the damn Ukranians took over Crimea ???

Tiger
06-09-2003, 01:38 PM
What's the gun on photo 5 (the guy with a silenced pistol)? A Makarov?

Piccolo
06-09-2003, 07:04 PM
and also, those are regular MAHRA units, so, don't expect them to act like SF units (dont put their finger on the trigger and stuff like that....)

Thats a pretty erroneous statement. Basic firearm saftey should be tought to ANYONE who uses a weapon. Whats the point of having conventional forces if they are not competent enough to follow the cardinal rules of firearm saftey.

Andyman
06-09-2003, 07:40 PM
In the special police with special forces pic is the guy in the middle geared for HALO or HAHO jumping? also does the officer on the right have a Dragunov? beautiful pics though Spetz!!! I drooled all over myself!!! :lol: rofl

Andyman
06-09-2003, 07:41 PM
Is there any difference in the gear that an operative would wear depending on whether he was HALO or HAHO jumping if so why? Thanks :roll:

koster
06-09-2003, 10:16 PM
and also, those are regular MAHRA units, so, don't expect them to act like SF units (dont put their finger on the trigger and stuff like that....)

Thats a pretty erroneous statement. Basic firearm saftey should be tought to ANYONE who uses a weapon. Whats the point of having conventional forces if they are not competent enough to follow the cardinal rules of firearm saftey.

Some of the people in Mahra don't give a s*** about safty regulations, all the want, is serve there for two years, and then get the f*** out of there....... :| and Im sure that they don't have any rounds in the mags, or maybe they have just blanks, or maybe its just a Ukranian thing :lol:

That gun on photo 5 looks kinda like Grach (pm443) or that other gun called Goblin or something, dunno...

BTW, did anyone noticed that theres a US soldier with an M4 or M16A2 in the 2nd and 3rd pictures (his in the woodland camo)?
and is that an AAV in the back ??

Andyman, can you tell me what HALO and HAHO is ?
and yes, that guy on the right does have an SVD.

Piccolo
06-09-2003, 11:05 PM
HALO - High Altitude Low Opening

HAHO - High Altitude High Opening

The names are pretty self explanitory. In HALO, you jump from 30k feet (give or take), and open your parachute a few hundred feet about the ground. HAHO is similar, in that you jump usualy from the same distance, but you open at a much higher altitude (Not sure on exact measurment).

Tiger
06-10-2003, 09:26 AM
Sorry to ask again but what's the gun on photo 5 (the guy with a silenced pistol)?

It's a Makarov? a Tokarev?

Andyman
06-10-2003, 04:24 PM
I know what they stand for Picollo, I was wondering whether they have any difference in their equipment depending on whether they HALO or HAHO jump. ;)

He219
06-10-2003, 06:12 PM
Andyman, HAHO equipment is governed by the limited oxygen and bitter cold for a longer duration than HALO along with the navigational skills required to stay on ram-air course given wind drift, etc. Supplamentary equipment depends on the mission at hand. Parachuting and life-support basics are common to either HALO or HAHO but the latter is more demanding. Greater oxygen along with 12V heated underwearand and the use of Nav Boards define HAHO equipment. The HAHO Nav Board integrates a chest-mounted console with a GPS operating through a 486 microprocessor and an LCD screen. A common Nav Board unit is manufactured by Steve Snyder Enterprises. Navigational distances of around 40 miles are attained with HAHO under canopy, mission respective...

p-)
He219

Piccolo
06-11-2003, 01:29 AM
I know what they stand for Picollo, I was wondering whether they have any difference in their equipment depending on whether they HALO or HAHO jump. ;)

Thats cool, but I wasn't addressing my answer toward you. If you notice, Koster asked what HALO/HAHO meant, at the bottom of his post.

He219
06-17-2003, 07:17 PM
Some Ukranian KFOR Photos from May 17th, 2003
Credit to KFOR photos:

http://www.nato.int/kfor/multimedia/photos/2003/big/b030519f.jpg

Senior Sergeant Andrej Chernata guarding in POLUKRBAT camp,
photo by Armend Aqifi

http://www.nato.int/kfor/multimedia/photos/2003/big/b030519g.jpg

Ukrainian soldier on foot patrolling in Serbian village near Brezovica,
photo by Armend Aqifi


http://www.nato.int/kfor/multimedia/photos/2003/big/b030519h.jpg

Ukrainian soldiers talking with old man while he was walking his nephew to school,
photo by Armend

p-)
He219

LORD_BUNGLA
06-21-2003, 04:24 AM
Hey, ukranian Spetzanz, could u get me a few pics of ministry of defence special forces and Alpha. Thanks

Andyman
06-23-2003, 02:07 AM
Thanks HE121 :hug:

GazB
06-23-2003, 03:39 AM
Very nice pics He219... but did you have to post them life sized.. :lol:

GI_Rutger
06-29-2003, 05:10 AM
hehe, an cop with an Ak47 :)

UkrainianSpetsnaz
09-27-2003, 03:11 PM
Thank you for all the comments. sorry I have been away for a while. College work.

slobo
01-31-2005, 07:43 PM
How come the photos won't show up for me?

slobo
01-31-2005, 07:44 PM
How come the photos won't show up for me?

Hellfish
01-31-2005, 07:51 PM
Cuz you're a year late. :bash:

Marmot1
01-31-2005, 07:51 PM
How come the photos won't show up for me?

DELETTED FROM SERVER..

Luno
11-08-2006, 04:18 AM
Sorry for digging up this thread but I didnít want to create a new one

But here are some new photos of Ukrainian troops and hardware. the photos are taken by the Swedish army

Btr 80 (?)
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/eskorttjanst.jpg[/URL]

TU 22
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/tu22.jpg (http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/eskorttjanst.jpg)

riot control
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/riotcontroll.jpg

Mig-29
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/mig29_3.jpg

More Mig 29
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/mig29_1.jpg (http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/riotcontroll.jpg)

paratrooper training
http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/fys.jpg

http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/fsktraning.jpg[URL="http://www.mil.se/rustningskontroll/images/local/fsktraning.jpg"]

pr0
11-08-2006, 07:17 AM
thx Luno, where did you find these pics?

Luno
11-08-2006, 07:29 AM
the pictures are from the Swedish armed force page and they are taken during a visit in Ukrainian 13-14 September

mladina
11-09-2006, 02:46 AM
Any photos of ukrainian specnaz units? Do they use any new weapons such as VVS Vintorez, Vepr or new grenade launcher?