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Seraphim
03-03-2004, 05:16 PM
:roll:

What about the children! the children!


By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas - Some families are boycotting Thin Mints and Do-Si-Dos and other Girl Scout cookies. Troop 7527 is down to just two members after the other girls were withdrawn by their parents. And Brownie Troop 7087 is no more.



Why are folks in this conservative Texas town where President Bush (news - web sites) has his ranch so mad at the Girl Scout organization?



The furor was started a few weeks ago by the leader of the anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco, who sent out e-mails and ran ads on a Christian radio station urging people to boycott Girl Scout cookies because of the "cozy relationship" between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood.


Parents were upset to learn that the local Girl Scout organization had given a "woman of distinction award" last year to a Planned Parenthood executive. And they were disturbed to find out that the Girl Scout organization has been giving its endorsement for years to a Planned Parenthood ***-ed program in which girls and boys are given literature on homo******ity, masturbation and condoms.


"It's not that we're a bunch of activists. We're just a bunch of moms who care about their kids," said Lisa Aguilar, who took her 10-year-old daughter out of her eight-member Girl Scout troop. "For us, it's the morality. Where is Girl Scouts going?"


The two troops in Crawford, population 700, decided not to deliver the cookie orders that they had already taken.


But cookie sales have skyrocketed this year as many people bought cases just to show their support for the Girl Scouts, said Becky Parker, a troop leader who is the cookie distributor for Waco-area troops.


"People thought the boycott was ridiculous and was one man's extremist views," Parker said.


While the cookie boycott may have backfired, the furor prompted the parent leaders of the two Crawford troops to quit.


"You're telling these girls to raise their fingers up to pledge to honor God and country, and yet you're handing out materials saying homo******ity is OK," said Brownie leader Donna Coody, who disbanded her five-member troop.


Because of the uproar, the Bluebonnet Council of Girl Scouts, which oversees troops in the Waco area and 13 other counties, announced last week that it would not be affiliated with Planned Parenthood ***-education programs this year.


In an editorial in Friday's Waco Tribune-Herald, Pam Smallwood, the Planned Parenthood of Central Texas executive director who was honored by the Girl Scouts last year, complained that Girl Scouts had thereby demonstrated that "bullying tactics are more effective than an informed democracy."


The Waco-area Girl Scout organization has been putting its name and logo on brochures for the Planned Parenthood ***-education programs but said it does not contribute any money and does not send girls to attend.


Some 400 to 700 fifth- through ninth-graders attend the half-day Nobody's Fool conference in Waco each July. The program never mentions abortion, according to Planned Parenthood. The youngsters receive a book with chapters on homo******ity and masturbation, as well as illustrations of couples having ***, people examining their naked bodies and a boy putting on a condom.


Some Girl Scout mothers called it soft-core ****.


"It embarrassed me to look at it with my husband," said parent Shannon Donaldson.





Pro-Life Waco director John Pisciotta, an economics professor at Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, said his call for a cookie boycott "was a way to bring attention to the issue and wasn't really about cookies."

The Girl Scouts national organization, which is based in New York and has 2.9 million girl members and 986,000 adult members, takes no position on *** education or abortion and has no national relationship with Planned Parenthood, according to the Bluebonnet Council.

The Crawford mothers are forming their own girls organization and will use a Christian-based curriculum. Beth Vivio, director of the Bluebonnett Council, declined to say if parents in any other troops had taken their daughters out.

Some parents decided to explain abortion to their girls. Others gave only a vague explanation about the uproar.

"Our girls have been through a lot these past three weeks," said Jennifer Smith, who quit as leader of Girl Scout Troop 7527 and removed her daughter. "After I told my 10-year-old daughter that they are supporting some things that are not morally right, she understood."

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 05:43 PM
Dear God.... that's just sad.

I've been a Girl Scout in Maine for eleven years, and I know several Senior Scouts who are lesbian. What's so wrong with educating other Scouts about people like them? It's not like they're monsters who live only to make life hell for everyone else.

:roll:

I think the only reason all of this has become such a big deal is because people are afraid of what they don't understand. Most of the trouble regarding homo******ity is stirred up by hetero******s....

And what kind of message does this send to other Councils? Are they supposed to only support "safe" organisations so as to avoid losing Scouts and parents? GSA might very well turn into a puppet for political correctness. How sad is that?

"It's about the morality." Morality? Isn't that what GSA is all about? I thought that teaching younger Scouts about different aspects of society and the different people in it would promote a better understanding of the world, and therefore better morals. Maybe I'm just a typical Adult Scout with a typical Scout's opinion. But I have to wonder, does being a Scout myself make my opinion invalid? I rather think these folks have been listening too closely to the political hype about being "correct" and "safe".

It's something to think about, at any rate.



The Girl Scout Promise

On my honor, I will try:
To serve God and my country
To help people at all times
And live by the Girl Scout Law

What This Promise Means:
On my honor, I will try - A scout promises to work hard
to be her best at all times.
To serve God - There are many ways to serve God.
Your beliefs are very personal. Every day try to act in the
way that your beliefs and your family teach you.
And my country - Saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
Obey the laws of your community and country.
Learn more about your country.
To help people at all times - You can help someone
carry packages. You could fix something
that's broken. Help someone find something that is lost.
Plant trees.
To live by the Girl Scout Law - The 10 parts of the
Girl Scout Law are 10 ways you can try to be the best
person you can be.

The Girl Scout Law

I will do my best to be
honest and fair,
friendly and helpful,
considerate and caring,
courageous and strong, and
responsible for what I say or do,
and to
respect myself and others,
respect authority,
use resources wisely,
make the world a better place,
and be a sister to every Girl Scout.

The Girl Scout Motto

Be Prepared


We recited the Promise and the Law before every meeting in my Troop.

:roll:

This is what I'm getting from what these folks are saying:

"Protect the children! Don't let them see the world, it might be good for them!"


Some people really should just grow up.

Seraphim
03-03-2004, 05:45 PM
Ok we're missing a point here. Are you female? :lol:

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 05:48 PM
*blink*

Ummm....

*checks*

I guess so....

check back with me in about a month, and bring me LOTS of chocolate... I might be able to give you an answer then.

Okay?

Seraphim
03-03-2004, 05:51 PM
*blink*

Ummm....

*checks*

I guess so....

check back with me in about a month, and bring me LOTS of chocolate... I might be able to give you an answer then.

Okay?


LoL sounds good.

What kind of chocolates do you prefer.

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Hmmmm.... it's not fair, you're making me choose!

Snickers are good.

I like Reese's too.

Seraphim
03-03-2004, 06:01 PM
Oh? I thought u wanted some nice boxed chocolates...oh well, all the more cheaper for me. :D

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 06:03 PM
Well, actually.....


I do have a soft spot for Godiva chocolates....

NcDeuce
03-03-2004, 07:23 PM
Those thin-mint cookies are the shizit.

Don't mess with Texas!

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 07:23 PM
;)


Will you buy me chocolate too?

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 07:34 PM
;)


Will you buy me chocolate too?

good thing it's chocolate, it can melt, other wise you maine-iacs would have a hard time eating hard candy, you know, because, you aint got's no teef. :P

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 07:38 PM
Oh really?


C'mere... lemme disprove that for you....

:D

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 07:42 PM
Oh really?


C'mere... lemme disprove that for you....

:D

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! somebody help me! the maine-iacs gonna catch me in a lobster trap and feed me to her flannel shirts! :P

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 07:43 PM
Nah, I'm not tough enough to be a lobsterman... I'll just feed ya to the nearest black bear...

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 07:44 PM
Nah, I'm not tough enough to be a lobsterman... I'll just feed ya to the nearest black bear...

my cousin is a fisherman, and one time his truck broke down and he had to leave it here in MA, and we fixed it and drove it up and down the road, and we called it the hick truck, and that's my story.

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 07:48 PM
Okay... my turn, then.


Last year on a WWC trip in the County, my best friend's truck got backed onto a rock and stuck. In the process of getting it un-stuck, the spoiler (I think that's what it was, but I can't remember) was damaged so that when her truck idled it sounded like a diesel. The next morning we sat in her truck with all the windows open and just listened to her rev the engine because it sounded so tough.

There. I'm done. Next?

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 07:55 PM
Okay... my turn, then.


Last year on a WWC trip in the County, my best friend's truck got backed onto a rock and stuck. In the process of getting it un-stuck, the spoiler (I think that's what it was, but I can't remember) was damaged so that when her truck idled it sounded like a diesel. The next morning we sat in her truck with all the windows open and just listened to her rev the engine because it sounded so tough.

There. I'm done. Next?

i've got nothing else.

Seraphim
03-03-2004, 08:21 PM
A damage spoiler wont do anything to the sound of a vehicle, a spoiler is to increase downforce on the rear of the car.

Heres my story, this happened 8months ago approx. Friends were in the BC interior...they need firewood and one of them is chainsawing a tree down. One of his friends...a chick he wanted to hook up, just bought a brand new Toyota Echo for the trip, cause its cheap on gas. So anyways she parks next to her friends car whos sawing the tree down. He owns a Subaru WRX...anyways you know what happens, huge tree falls on both of their cars, trip pretty much ends there.

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 08:26 PM
A damage spoiler wont do anything to the sound of a vehicle, a spoiler is to increase downforce on the rear of the car.

Heres my story, this happened 8months ago approx. Friends were in the BC interior...they need firewood and one of them is chainsawing a tree down. One of his friends...a chick he wanted to hook up, just bought a brand new Toyota Echo for the trip, cause its cheap on gas. So anyways she parks next to her friends car whos sawing the tree down. He owns a Subaru WRX...anyways you know what happens, huge tree falls on both of their cars, trip pretty much ends there.

rofl rofl

Seraphim
03-03-2004, 08:27 PM
I'll post pics later.

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 08:27 PM
I'll post pics later.

oh my god yes!

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 08:35 PM
A damage spoiler wont do anything to the sound of a vehicle, a spoiler is to increase downforce on the rear of the car.

Heres my story, this happened 8months ago approx. Friends were in the BC interior...they need firewood and one of them is chainsawing a tree down. One of his friends...a chick he wanted to hook up, just bought a brand new Toyota Echo for the trip, cause its cheap on gas. So anyways she parks next to her friends car whos sawing the tree down. He owns a Subaru WRX...anyways you know what happens, huge tree falls on both of their cars, trip pretty much ends there.

I said I didn't remember what it was... that's just what somebody said at the time. I don't know all that much about trucks and what makes them run, but I like to listen to my guys talk about them anyway... it's interesting stuff.

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 08:47 PM
A damage spoiler wont do anything to the sound of a vehicle, a spoiler is to increase downforce on the rear of the car.

Heres my story, this happened 8months ago approx. Friends were in the BC interior...they need firewood and one of them is chainsawing a tree down. One of his friends...a chick he wanted to hook up, just bought a brand new Toyota Echo for the trip, cause its cheap on gas. So anyways she parks next to her friends car whos sawing the tree down. He owns a Subaru WRX...anyways you know what happens, huge tree falls on both of their cars, trip pretty much ends there.

I said I didn't remember what it was... that's just what somebody said at the time. I don't know all that much about trucks and what makes them run, but I like to listen to my guys talk about them anyway... it's interesting stuff.

your guys huh? more like....your......stupid people!! bahahahahahahahahaha! :oops:

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 08:48 PM
Um... actually, another female said it was the spoiler... my guys really do know what they're talking about. One of them tore apart the engine in his Chevy and rebuilt it...

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 08:49 PM
Um... actually, another female said it was the spoiler... my guys really do know what they're talking about. One of them tore apart the engine in his Chevy and rebuilt it...

his family must be proud.

Maine Finn
03-03-2004, 09:06 PM
Easy... I like this guy....

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 09:09 PM
Easy... I like this guy....

i'm just ****in around anyway.

budanski
03-03-2004, 09:17 PM
MarineDEP4 is just smitten... ;)

Salty Dog
03-03-2004, 09:26 PM
MarineDEP4 is just smitten... ;)

i'll smite you right in the face. p-)

budanski
03-03-2004, 10:00 PM
Hey, if it gets me out from work, I'm all for it. :D

farmgirl
03-03-2004, 11:36 PM
Hey, if it gets me out from work, I'm all for it. :D


just don't use a golf club! ;)