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urs
03-01-2006, 08:04 PM
I need some new boots. They must be black and tall. (insert afro-american joke here) For all terrain and all weather.

Anyone have any recommandations?

percell_086
03-01-2006, 09:15 PM
Lowa boots, the best you can get (imho)!!! They might get a bit hot in hot weather though :)

DANJANOU
03-01-2006, 10:29 PM
It might help if we knew what you needed them for.

Mountain Man
03-02-2006, 01:58 AM
First post so don't be too rough on me :)

I wear Danner Acadias everyday for work and have had the same pair for three years. I wear them every day usually, 8+ hours, 5-6 days a week. The break in sucks but once they are broken in they feel like a tennis shoe. Take a beating and keep the feet warm in winter and dry in summer. The listed price is about $50 more than what you can get them for where I live. Great product.

http://www.danner.com/products.asp?catid=12&prodid=1655

Zero The Hero
03-02-2006, 02:41 AM
I need some new boots. They must be black and tall. (insert afro-american joke here) For all terrain and all weather.

Anyone have any recommandations?

Sorry, no such boots exist. They're either too cold or too warm, too stiff or too flexible.

For the three coldest seasons I'd recommend Haglöfs Ursus or Meindl Army Pro, taking it you're using them in Norway. For the summer, I wouldn't really even go for gore-tex but rather an ordinary leather boot waterproofed with shoe-polish.

CQB_Operator
03-02-2006, 03:35 AM
The 3 Classic

1)
LOWA Task Forces Mega Camp
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/botach_1886_4303578 (http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/botach_1886_4274814)http://us.st1.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/Img/trans_1x1.gif
Link http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Silver/docs/topframe.htm

2)
Meindl army pro
http://www.outdoorworldltd.co.uk/images/00214_thumb.jpg
Link : http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Silver/docs/topframe.htm

3)
Hanwag Boots Special forces GTX/LX
http://www.hanwag.co.uk/acatalog/special_force_gtx.jpg
Link : http://www.hanwag.co.uk/acatalog/area_b.html
http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Silver/docs/topframe.htm




You can also use the search buttonp-) and find this

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71391&highlight=boots

scrybe
03-02-2006, 05:04 AM
First post so don't be too rough on me :)

I wear Danner Acadias everyday for work and have had the same pair for three years. I wear them every day usually, 8+ hours, 5-6 days a week. The break in sucks but once they are broken in they feel like a tennis shoe. Take a beating and keep the feet warm in winter and dry in summer. The listed price is about $50 more than what you can get them for where I live. Great product.

http://www.danner.com/products.asp?catid=12&prodid=1655

That was going to be my reccomendation. Great boot, great company.

percell_086
03-02-2006, 07:04 AM
The first one that CQB operator listed was the one i meant. Great for in the field and those long hikes.

CQB_Operator
03-02-2006, 01:31 PM
The only downside of the first 2, is you cannot jump with it (because of the hooks, but you can try to tape the hooks, but it's a bit too McGyverish for me:-( )

jerka71_1
03-02-2006, 01:45 PM
The only downside of the first 2, is you cannot jump with it (because of the hooks, but you can try to tape the hooks, but it's a bit too McGyverish for me:-( )

Why can´t you jump with the Meindl??

Ox
03-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Try this ones mate:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3527&stc=1&d=1141322427

Polish company, Kupczak Products. Not easy to get.
Producers mainpage:
Kupczak Products (http://www.vip.home.pl/gallery.php?plik=mon928&lang=eng)

Model posted, "MON", approved by polish MOD(MON=MOD) polish SF GROM are using it also for jumps :). Not so well known brand, best quality.

jerka71_1
03-02-2006, 02:27 PM
I´d go for the Meindl Army Pro if still available. I´ve been using it in all conditions for soon 12 years. Hasn´t disappointed me yet!!

Jumping and all....still waiting for the answer CQB!!!!???

CQB_Operator
03-02-2006, 05:43 PM
I´d go for the Meindl Army Pro if still available. I´ve been using it in all conditions for soon 12 years. Hasn´t disappointed me yet!!

Jumping and all....still waiting for the answer CQB!!!!???


Why can´t you jump with the Meindl??

Because, in a lot of armies it is not allowed to jump with Boots with hooks, they are some risk to catch the suspending ropes!!!

jerka71_1
03-02-2006, 05:49 PM
Because, in a lot of armies it is not allowed to jump with Boots with hooks, they are some risk to catch the suspending ropes!!!

OK, your loss. Cause the boots work just fine. Do you mean US Army as in a lot of...?

GoSka37
03-02-2006, 06:57 PM
I suggest anything from Bellevilles.

urs
03-02-2006, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't worry about taking the boots for jumping out of an airplane. That won't happen.

I need the boots for long hikes and other field operations.

Too many boots, so little money... :(

fnc_556
03-03-2006, 03:21 AM
Try this ones mate:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3527&stc=1&d=1141322427

Polish company, Kupczak Products. Not easy to get.
Producers mainpage:
Kupczak Products (http://www.vip.home.pl/gallery.php?plik=mon928&lang=eng)

Model posted, "MON", approved by polish MOD(MON=MOD) polish SF GROM are using it also for jumps :). Not so well known brand, best quality.

and the price???? same as lowa or less???

CQB_Operator
03-03-2006, 05:57 AM
I wouldn't worry about taking the boots for jumping out of an airplane. That won't happen.

I need the boots for long hikes and other field operations.

Too many boots, so little money... :(

These are certainly cheaper p-)
http://www.finnmark-outlet.de/shop/images/images_big/8723.574.jpg

Royal
03-03-2006, 05:59 AM
OK, your loss. Cause the boots work just fine. Do you mean US Army as in a lot of...?

No. He means alot of armies.

RecceGuy
03-03-2006, 10:16 AM
I've just had a pair of Altbergs made to measure at their factory just outside Catterick. It took them a month from measuring me to having the boots delivered and they cost me £125. You can buy off the shelf boots from them aswell that they will post to you.

www.altberg.co.uk

flanker7
03-03-2006, 10:23 AM
I wouldn't worry about taking the boots for jumping out of an airplane. That won't happen.

I need the boots for long hikes and other field operations.

Too many boots, so little money... :(

It may sound dumb, but I would suggest bying the Ecco Treck model. Not some super duber military boot but excellent choise. They are comfortable, gore-tex lined, long lasting and cheaper than others.
In my unit we walk alot and almost all rejected the "famous" military brands and went for this humble boot.

Link: http://www.eccoworld.com/category_detail.asp?cid=9
Just my opinion mate

Digital Marine
03-03-2006, 10:41 AM
I recommend Bellevilles.


www.bellevilleshoe.com

Captain_Smollet
03-03-2006, 10:58 AM
They are comfortable, gore-tex lined, long lasting and cheaper than others.


Link: http://www.eccoworld.com/category_detail.asp?cid=9
Just my opinion mate

CHEAPER? 300 EURO ??? Cheaper than BMW ? May be.
It’s twice expensive than average combat boots with Gortex and Vibram.
Go for Belleville’s with Gore-Tex . Good compromise , US made , high quality ,
Comfortable and durable.

flanker7
03-03-2006, 11:05 AM
CHEAPER? 300 EURO ??? Cheaper than BMW ? May be.
It’s twice expensive than average combat boots with Gortex and Vibram.
Go for Belleville’s with Gore-Tex . Good compromise , US made , high quality ,
Comfortable and durable.
Ehm, sorry. Price is different in each country. We are issued Bellevilles and on the market here they cost 250 euros. On the other hand Eccos cost 120 euros.

Ox
03-03-2006, 11:59 AM
and the price???? same as lowa or less???

Well, that's the problem, U can't buy them in a retail sale. Big contractors only:( But here's solution:
http://www.allegro.pl/search.php?string=kupczak
http://www.allegro.pl/item87556284_buty_kupczak_gore_tex_rozmiar_28.html
Polish internet auction, have fun;)
Price is around 400PLN which is 100EUR only

CQB_Operator
03-03-2006, 12:09 PM
I've just had a pair of Altbergs made to measure at their factory just outside Catterick. It took them a month from measuring me to having the boots delivered and they cost me £125. You can buy off the shelf boots from them aswell that they will post to you.

www.altberg.co.uk (http://www.altberg.co.uk)

Made to measures combat boots for £125($220), seems to be a good deal:)

Captain_Smollet
03-03-2006, 04:14 PM
Ehm, sorry. Price is different in each country. We are issued Bellevilles and on the market here they cost 250 euros. On the other hand Eccos cost 120 euros.

Eccos (got one pair:-( ) are 2 expensive and low quality... They made good shoes , but not boots. Buy Belleville's online it will cost you less.

RecceGuy
03-03-2006, 05:10 PM
Made to measures combat boots for £125($220), seems to be a good deal:)
It's an excellent deal, thats why I can't beleive the prices that some companies charge for their boots. Beleive me the site is worth a visit. A mate bought a pair of their desert microlite boots at their shop for our last Iraq tour, they were seconds (defective) and you know what the defect was? The suede was badly scuffed on both boots!!! I couldn't beleive it he got them for £60 and they saw him well through the tour.

intrinsic
03-04-2006, 02:48 PM
Altberg, can't go far wrong with these, i've had them well over 3 years, once the sole has worn out back they go, new soles foot beds and lace for £30.
Loads of chioce of boots everything you'll ever need.
per Ardua

RGRBOX
03-04-2006, 07:52 PM
Either go for the Matterhorn 1998....

or the Belleville boots...

Sabre
03-05-2006, 10:23 AM
Since you are in Norway, why not go for the Meindl or Hagloffs. Lundhags also make decent boots (but I have no experience of them myself). I wouldn't bother with gore tex as boots always end up wet inside anyway, be it through sweat or through underestimating the depth of a stream. Gore tex just holds in water and prolongs the drying process. A good quality all leather boot can be made virtually water proof by using wax instead of/before polish.

I have a pair of non goretex altbergs and they are just the job. My feet might get damp when splashing through streams, but if my boots fill with water they 'walk dry' soon after, instead of holding the water in. Feet in boots are always damp/sweaty, it's when they become sodden/immersed that's the problem.

Royal
03-06-2006, 03:30 AM
Either go for the Matterhorn 1998....

or the Belleville boots...

Got to disagree (about the Matterhorns - I've never used Bellvilles). We were issued Matterhorns for the UNPROFOR/IFOR hand over in the winter of 95-96 in Bosnia. They are without a doubt the worst 'winter' boots I've had the missfortune to wear in the mountains.

ABNINF
03-06-2006, 05:55 AM
I just bought a pair of the 5.11 HRT tactical boots today. Picked them up for $70 (which is about $70 cheaper than I'm finding them online right now)at the PX down the road. I'm not that big of an impulse shopper, but after trying them on, I had to buy them. They're AWESOME, especially for the price. Mine are in the Desert color, but they make them in black as well. Great ankle support, are about a 1/4 inch taller than the issued Bellevilles, and are comfortable as h***.

RGRBOX
03-06-2006, 06:25 AM
Got to disagree (about the Matterhorns - I've never used Bellvilles). We were issued Matterhorns for the UNPROFOR/IFOR hand over in the winter of 95-96 in Bosnia. They are without a doubt the worst 'winter' boots I've had the missfortune to wear in the mountains.

That's the problem... you wore them in the mountains... I would go with Lowa MTNGTX for the mountains... the Matterhorns model 1998 are kick as for the non mountain area of Europe... they lack the ankle support.

Royal
03-06-2006, 09:03 AM
That's the problem... you wore them in the mountains... I would go with Lowa MTNGTX for the mountains... the Matterhorns model 1998 are kick as for the non mountain area of Europe... they lack the ankle support.

No I wore them on Igman and then over most of north east Bosnia ;) Ankle support wasn't the problem - they were cold (despite being thinsulate lined) and wet (despite the Goretex and gaiters) - probably because the stitching failed and one of the soles started coming away. If I'd had them with me I'd have worn my Lunhaags on Igman and fortunately my Danners eventually caught up me me (thanks BFPO!) - for two pretty similar boots, they are streets apart.

dacanadianbomb
03-06-2006, 09:21 AM
"- they were cold (despite being thinsulate lined) and wet (despite the Goretex and gaiters)"

LOL talk about not working as advertised.

RecceGuy
03-06-2006, 12:16 PM
Got to disagree (about the Matterhorns - I've never used Bellvilles). We were issued Matterhorns for the UNPROFOR/IFOR hand over in the winter of 95-96 in Bosnia. They are without a doubt the worst 'winter' boots I've had the missfortune to wear in the mountains.
Got to agree about matterhorns, they are full on dog toffee. Wore them the winter of '95/'96 in Banja Luka and they were toss. Resorted to a pair of Altbergs bought off the shelf rather quickly. One of the reasons I've pretty much stuck with them although I do have a pair of Lowa combat that are beginning to wear out.

RGRBOX
03-06-2006, 01:16 PM
I've heard simular stories about them from guys who used them in the Balkins.. strange what that region does to boots. I've had several pairs, myself, and have never had a problem with them... I use Sno Seal, and that has kept them in pretty good shape...