Taliban Spokesman Welcome at Yale, ROTC Still Isn't

[Zoomie]

Published Wednesday, March 1, 2006
Ex-Taliban can learn from Yale experience

I was more than a little puzzled to see the self-satisfied mug of Rahmatullah Hashemi '09 smiling at me from the front of the News on Monday. The last time I saw that Cheshire grin was in Michael Moore's otherwise manipulative "Fahrenheit 9/11," which, for all its demagoguery and factual errors, at least captured the Taliban's odiousness. In a clip lasting 30 seconds, an indignant woman confronts Hashemi -- who no less than five years ago was a chief spokesperson for the Islamist theocracy -- at a public event.

"You have imprisoned the women -- it's a horror," she shouts, tearing off a burka in protest.

"I'm really sorry to your husband," Hashemi answered. "He might have a very difficult time with you."

In the days of the Taliban, a woman who addressed a man in such fashion would have known what she had coming: acid on her face, perhaps; more likely, death.

In 2000, Hashemi, then 21, became a "roving ambassador" for the Taliban -- Angelina Jolie for the Islamofascist set, if you will. He toured the U.S. defending the "achievements" of the Taliban, even visiting Yale. In the months leading up to Sept. 11, Hashemi had a falling out with the Taliban; he became disillusioned with their banning of neckties, chessboards and the Internet because he "wanted something good for Afghanistan." Presumably, Taliban policy prior to its crackdowns in spring 2001, which included public torture and murder of homo******s, veiling of women and destruction of ancient Buddhist statues, were all "good for Afghanistan." Attempting to show intellectual growth, Hashemi told the News Monday he "really support[s]" free speech, adding, "I did and do believe in women's rights. Yes, women should be able to vote....."

Read the rest (http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=32110)
Nice double standard Yale has, letting an overt supporter of the Taliban at their school, however they ban any ROTC programs on the campus and forces those who want to be part of ROTC to go about 70mi to the nearest school that hosts a detachment.

[LaoSexMachine]

Left wing nuts!! Inviting an ass hole who were part of a group that didn't let females go to school. Like you said Sgt.Sniper, great double standard.

[rajkhalsa]

That's insane :slap: :cantbeli:

[chuckster]

That's insane :slap: :cantbeli:

That's college in the 21st century.

[usa320]

That's college in the 21st century.

x2.

The more this *censored**censored**censored**censored* i hear, the more i think it would be better for kids to do 2 or 4 years in the military FIRST, then go to college, this way they can see through all the bull*censored**censored**censored**censored* the nutty professors will feed them.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Why am I not surprised by this!


Nice double standard Yale has, letting an overt supporter of the Taliban at their school, however they ban any ROTC programs on the campus and forces those who want to be part of ROTC to go about 70mi to the nearest school that hosts a detachment.

I think there is a case before the Supreme Court that is relevant to the degree to which schools must accommodate military recruiters on their campuses.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/02/AR2005050200616.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5027755

[Michael RVR]

I don't think the school should be forced to host ROTC if they don't want to.

Its called freedom of choice yeah?

[Zoomie]

I don't think the school should be forced to host ROTC if they don't want to.

Its called freedom of choice yeah?
Freedom of choice? Choice of what?? Show me where schools have this "freedom of choice". No school is forced to host ROTC, rather the school forces the cadets to go 70mi to the nearest detachment to participate because they banned the program from the school.

[Kingswat]

That's college in the 21st century.

don't forget the parties, ***, drugs and alchohol.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

I don't think the school should be forced to host ROTC if they don't want to.

Its called freedom of choice yeah?

If they receive government money of any way shape or form, they shouldn't expect to be able to pick and choose with which government policies they will comply.

[TacoDelRio]

Hah! Sounds great! And that school isn't even here in Kommiefornia!

Fan-fookin'-tastic!

[Michael RVR]

Freedom of choice? Choice of what?? Show me where schools have this "freedom of choice". No school is forced to host ROTC, rather the school forces the cadets to go 70mi to the nearest detachment to participate because they banned the program from the school.

Dude that doesn't make sense.

1. "No school is forced to host ROTC"
and
2. "the school forces the cadets.. "

It sounds like you're blaming the school for a choice you say that they're allowed to make. Or am i not getting that correctly ?

[Michael RVR]

If they receive government money of any way shape or form, they shouldn't expect to be able to pick and choose which government policies they will comply with.

Its government policy for all colleges to have ROTC?

[LaoSexMachine]

Its government policy for all colleges to have ROTC?

No. If you recieve government funding then you should have recruiters and ROTC. If your private you do what you like. Funny that Yale invited a former Taliban spokesman, Dubya is an alumni. So is Kerry.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Its government policy for all colleges to have ROTC?


(a) Denial of Funds for Preventing ROTC Access to Campus.— No funds described in subsection (d)(1) may be provided by contract or by grant (including a grant of funds to be available for student aid) to an institution of higher education (including any subelement of such institution) if the Secretary of Defense determines that that institution (or any subelement of that institution) has a policy or practice (regardless of when implemented) that either prohibits, or in effect prevents—
(1) the Secretary of a military department from maintaining, establishing, or operating a unit of the Senior Reserve Officer Training Corps (in accordance with section 654 of this title and other applicable Federal laws) at that institution (or any subelement of that institution) From (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000983----000-.html)

It is my understanding that if the military wants to have an ROTC unit at a school, then the school must allow it or forfieit any federal funds.

Are they at every school? I don't actually know.

[dsw]

For more information on how he got to Yale, read the New York Times Magazine profile that prompted the article linked above. I think you'll find he's changed a bit since the Taliban fell. In other words, he's not a militant anymore.

The Freshman
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html

[joedirt]

what if just maybe his experience and exposure to western culture has a positive impact on him and just maybe he takes that back to afghanistan with him is that not worth allowing him to goto yale.

[remo williams]

i'm all for freedom of choice,movement etc..but this is a little past ironic,and way past crazy.while many college bound students are getting out priced out of being able to pursue a degree,this asswhole just strolls into one of the best schools in the country his group is trying to attack and destroy has.:roll: it's also something that not only did we have a number of our presidents graduate from there,but that the only food he could stand to eat was kosher meat.it'd really be something if when he graduates, he returns as spokesman for the taliban so they can pursue a hamas "like" path.trying to legitimize them selves in the political arena.it'd be their only real chance to exist,as sf and the like are actively tallywacker huntingp-)

[soprano]

For more information on how he got to Yale, read the New York Times Magazine profile that prompted the article linked above. I think you'll find he's changed a bit since the Taliban fell. In other words, he's not a militant anymore.

The Freshman
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html


YEA i wouldnt know if thats so true consider the source the Ny times enough said!

[BadKarma26]

That would be great if there were some OEF vets in one of his classes. Even if he was losing a debate he could just be like, "Yah....well I killed you're friends"

[remo williams]

That would be great if there were some OEF vets in one of his classes. Even if he was losing a debate he could just be like, "Yah....well I killed you're friends"
x2,that'd be some funny shyte.:cantbeli:

[joedirt]

the NY Times is hands down one of the best papers in the united states and the world please tell me what you would consider a more accurate paper?

[BloodyTalon]

the NY Times is hands down one of the best papers in the united states and the world please tell me what you would consider a more accurate paper?
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1052591733831_2003/05/12/wld_blair_jayson.jpg
Jayson Blair dropped in to say hi.

[Durandal]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1052591733831_2003/05/12/wld_blair_jayson.jpg
Jayson Blair dropped in to say hi.


rofl rofl rofl

[Durandal]

I have no problem with an ex-Taliban attending the school. We learn from him and he us....most important he learns from us about freedom, democracy, civil rights, and the rule of law.

As to preventing ROTC and recruiters, well, that was simply stupid and as proven by the UNANIMOUS Supreme Court decision yesterday, illegal. They are REQUIRED to allow both.

End of discussion there.

They can bitch all they want but they cannot do anything to prevent the Federal Government, via the military to establish recruiting offices on campus.

[EsoognomEhT]

Its no different over here really, we're not allowed to try and recruit people inside university buildings...
We used to have these t-shirts that said "I'm getting paid to have fun, ask me how" but the Uni banned them because "war isn't fun" :cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli:

[Durandal]

Yeah, that's pretty stupid.