Shotguns

[rhino]

here is my Ruko with last trip result

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8257/bearhunt082.jpg

also in the stump the Henry's Fork spike, kind of hard to see:/
was usefull on this hunt

[Henry's Fork]

Nice shot rhino, looks like its gonna cook up good. mmmmmm wabbit stew.

Glad the spike came in handy.;)

[STEPAN1983]

Finally! Benelli SuperNova, short barrel, standart magazine.

http://i033.radikal.ru/0911/38/d89f72e146b2.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0911/f2/d50a754974df.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[ahab]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/Closed/R870.jpg

Remington 870

[HCV]

Would someone know where I could get wooden stocks for a Remington 870P? Internet stores only, but decent second hand stuff is fine . . . Thanks!

Cheers

HANS

[rhino]

try numrich

[H2O MAN]

My pre-ban HK/Benelli M1 Super 90 and a Glock 21.

103940 woot

[Lt.Chuck]

i have a Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader 12g 18.5" w/CAR Stock in mossy oak camo that some1 won and gave me at a raffle

http://www.impactguns.com/store/015813524407.html

[Seiran]

Ok guys question - Mossy 500 2 barrel combo for $355, or Charles Daly autoloader 2 barrel combo (One of which is rifled) for $450? I'm mainly looking to shoot trap with them.

[Lethal Lou]

Recently came across some folks who make supressors for Saiga 12's. They're 900 bucks (plus another 200 for the tax stamp) but there is just something about a image of a suppressed 12 guage that is appealing. Guess I've watched "No Country for Old Men" too many times!

redstick-firearms.com

Not advertising for them, just trying to keep them in production until I can afford to place an order!


http://redstick-firearms.com/images/SuppressedRedJacketS-12.jpg

[Steelcoreammo]

http://www3.telus.net/tejones/pair.jpg

14" 870 along with my DPMS M4.

WHo says we can't own guns in Canada. rofl


Nice magazine........bad boy

[trunk_munkey28]

Nice magazine........bad boy
As long as it only holds 5 rounds...

[Steelcoreammo]

Im talking about the 5.56 mag, it looks like a 30 .....bad boy.

[Ought Six]

Sca:
"Im talking about the 5.56 mag, it looks like a 30 .....bad boy"So was TM. Canada has a legal 5-round magazine capacity limit. You can have a thirty-rounder, so long as it is internally permanently blocked down to only 5-round functional capacity.

[Steelcoreammo]

O wel lI guess I am in trouble cuz I thought it was 10 rounds

[rhino]

O wel lI guess I am in trouble cuz I thought it was 10 rounds

Lee Enfield is only center fire rifle exempt from the round limit

[ea8]

My first shotgun
Vepr-12 Molot

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2541/pict2681n.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/pict2681n.jpg/)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8781/pict2683.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/pict2683.jpg/)

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/489/pict2685x.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/pict2685x.jpg/)

[Victory]

I recently picked up my first shotgun, as well. (Though, it's not as nice as yours.)

$400.00 from SGCUSA.com for a FN TPS (Winchester 1300)...not to shabby.

113257

-Vic

[Roy Batty]

O wel lI guess I am in trouble cuz I thought it was 10 rounds


Lee Enfield is only center fire rifle exempt from the round limit

The LAR "pistol" mags can be used in an AR and due to being origionaly for a "pistol" they are legal at 10 rds as well.

[rhino]

The LAR "pistol" mags can be used in an AR and due to being origionaly for a "pistol" they are legal at 10 rds as well.

didnt know that but it makes sense

therefore it is only a matter of time before feds make an amendment to that exception:(

[KAILUAZ]

Rem 870.......
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/KAILUAZ/Lock/DSC06877GOODcopy.jpg

[Laconian]

I thought a Remington 600 was a bolt gun

[Creeper]

I thought a Remington 600 was a bolt gun
you are correct.
perhaps he meant to type "870" ?
perhaps.

btw (nice and clean kit he has.)

[KAILUAZ]

Oh boy,,, the 20 hour days must be catching up with me! Thanks for the heads up,,, its fixed.

[ozseb]

Is there any manufacutrer who produces removeable rail system for double-barreled shotguns? I was doing researches but found nothing.
Many thanks!

[Hauser]

Is there any manufacutrer who produces removeable rail system for double-barreled shotguns? I was doing researches but found nothing.
Many thanks!

I have only ever seen one db shotgun with rails, and that is the stoeger double defence, and these are factory fitted permanent rails:

http://i44.tinypic.com/6zopi8.jpg

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_double_defense.php

I doubt a removable RIS would exist, due to the massive variety of shotguns around, and the absolute lack of utility and demand.

[ozseb]

I think you are right... Really noting for db shotguns. I prefer them for hunting, lovely classic design. But all the useful tactical accesories ie. flashlights, reflex shights require 20 mm rail.
I think I need to visit a gunsmith to fix rails...

[Chulo]

I think you are right... Really noting for db shotguns. I prefer them for hunting, lovely classic design. But all the useful tactical accesories ie. flashlights, reflex shights require 20 mm rail.
I think I need to visit a gunsmith to fix rails...
Keep the double naked and just buy a home defense one with the taticool rails for about $350

[Hollis]

Keep the double naked and just buy a home defense one with the taticool rails for about $350


Keep the S/S as is, they are classic. Tacticool guns are for tacticool stuff. Sort of like take a John Deere tractor and making it look like a Indy 500 race car.

[ozseb]

Do you know this:

http://safirarms.com/eng.html (then Products-T 14)

Interesting.

Anyway, accidently I have found this, which could be attached to s/s shotguns:

Command Arms Accessories Vent Rib Shotgun Rail Adaptor HGA1

http://www.code3tactical.com/browseproducts/Command-Arms-Vent-Rib-Shotgun-Rail-Adaptor.HTML

I strongly agree to keep them as classic as they are!
But sometimes I miss a weapon light...

The CAA adaprot above will help me, I think I will get one, but I found the 50-70 USD quite high (+shipping, duty, etc).

[Cstafford]

I thinking about picking up a 870, 590, or a 500 soon. Anyone know a great accessory brand, i.e stocks, fore grips, rails? Im no to sold on tapco, I want real deal I can drop and it not break stuff.

[kraut783]

I thinking about picking up a 870, 590, or a 500 soon. Anyone know a great accessory brand, i.e stocks, fore grips, rails? Im no to sold on tapco, I want real deal I can drop and it not break stuff.

www.botach.com

Good grouping of brands. Some don't like the company, but you can use the site to find what you like then go direct for the actual item. Just a thought.

[Cstafford]

Anyone have any experience with Mesa Tactical "telescoping stock adapters"? Does any AR-15 style telescoping stock fit?

[Virus]

I just bought a rem 870 from cabelas new for 349$ Cstafford, feels really nice and I am digging the trigger housing safety as opposed to the rear action of the mossburg. Also the pump/pg replacement I was looking at was the pachmayr brand. I haven't really looked into full stocks or anything like that though so not sure how to help you in that department.

[Cstafford]

I just bought a rem 870 from cabelas new for 349$ Cstafford, feels really nice and I am digging the trigger housing safety as opposed to the rear action of the mossburg. Also the pump/pg replacement I was looking at was the pachmayr brand. I haven't really looked into full stocks or anything like that though so not sure how to help you in that department.
Thanks for the input, I think im leaning towards the 870. I only hear good things about them.

[STEPAN1983]

My first shooting with SuperNova:

http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/1005/84/02a32e56ab08.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

http://s002.radikal.ru/i199/1005/8e/2029c123a04c.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

I can't find magazine extenders (I need +2 shells) on ebay :(

And my friend's monstrosity:
http://s004.radikal.ru/i206/1005/d5/d96b71a52e4f.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Chulo]

Is that a 26 inch saiga 12?

[STEPAN1983]

It is hunting "Saiga 12" http://izhmash.ru/eng/product/saiga12.shtml

Barrel is 22.8 inches long. With russian made collimator sight "Cobra" and DIY forward grip

After next holidays I'll show you "Saiga12S" (looks like assault rifle, with a AK pistol grip) and "Saiga 410" (caliber for pussies)

[Indiana Jones]

My first shooting with SuperNova:

[...]



I can't find magazine extenders (I need +2 shells) on ebay :(


Hm. Is there a problem with getting them directly from the US ?
http://www.shopwiki.com/7+Shot+Extension+Benelli+Nova
Cheers,
IJ.

[SBL]

and "Saiga 410" (caliber for pussies)
Chulo, didn't you say you wanted one of those?

[Chulo]

Chulo, didn't you say you wanted one of those?
Hehe.. i have one of those

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?175172-Converting-a-Saiga

[gaijinsamurai]

Nice shotguns, Stepan!
What kinds of guns can you own in Russia?

[STEPAN1983]

As civilain I can have a shotgun. With a hunting licence after 5 years I can have a rifled gun. No pistols - it is banned for civilians. No auto fire, not more than 10 bullets in a magazine, weapon is not shorter than 800 mm.

[gaijinsamurai]

Well, at least you can have something. Better than a lot of other countries. Thanks for sharing the pics, Stepan. Would you be able to own a semi-auto, such as an SKS?

[STEPAN1983]

semi-auto shotgun (like Saiga 12) - easily. SKS - after five years of owning of shotgun

[Steelcoreammo]

www.botach.com (http://www.botach.com)

Good grouping of brands. Some don't like the company, but you can use the site to find what you like then go direct for the actual item. Just a thought.



Thanks for that link there is just about everything there.

Whats wrong with the company?

[Kilo1-1]

Plain 870 used mostly for sporting clays:
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6903/sidefv.jpg

I picked up a Remington police 18" barrel and foregrip.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5231/cimg1069r.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8130/cimg1071p.jpg

It's almost like having 2 shotguns in one.

[Kilo1-1]

Stippled the replacement stock.
Almost done with this pump gun:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6595/sideangle1.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2994/stockze.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4377/stockunder.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9709/sideangle2.jpg

[COBRA1]

I have some shotgun shells with a confusing warning it says (use only in Magnum proof shotguguns), and I want to use them in both Mossberg 500 and Maverick 88, does anybody knows if it is safe?

[XASA]

I have some shotgun shells with a confusing warning it says (use only in Magnum proof shotguguns), and I want to use them in both Mossberg 500 and Maverick 88, does anybody knows if it is safe?

I don't know about the Mossberg 500 or Maverick but my Mossberg 590 easily shoots 3" Magnum shells. The Magnum slug is an impressive round once you get use to the recoil! I would strongly suggest referring to the manual that came with your shotguns. If you have misplaced them, you can easily Google and find a manual on-line. If not, contact Mossberg directly. There is a wealth of knowledge in this forum but when it comes to firearms safety, I would strongly suggest going to the source instead of relying on the suggestions of anomynous people.

[COBRA1]

I don't know about the Mossberg 500 or Maverick but my Mossberg 590 easily shoots 3" Magnum shells. The Magnum slug is an impressive round once you get use to the recoil! I would strongly suggest referring to the manual that came with your shotguns. If you have misplaced them, you can easily Google and find a manual on-line. If not, contact Mossberg directly. There is a wealth of knowledge in this forum but when it comes to firearms safety, I would strongly suggest going to the source instead of relying on the suggestions of anomynous people.

Yes they are able, I also tried them, thank you for your help.

[Cstafford]

Kilo that wood stock looked good as hell on it.

[Kilo1-1]

Kilo that wood stock looked good as hell on it.

I'm thinking of refinishing the wood furniture one of these days. It was pretty dinged up when I got it.

[COBRA1]

126855126854
I have some 12 Gauge rifled slugs (Safari brand name) with an unusual cooper center, which I don't know what is the advantge to be there, any Idea?
126853

[Hauser]

Looks like it would be armour piercing, when it hits a hard object the lead will stop and the copper penetrator will carry on. I have seen some shells that looked similar to this with a bronze rod penetrator, was told they were from Eastern Europe IIRC.

[Death.]

Stippled the replacement stock.
Almost done with this pump gun:


http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2994/stockze.jpg
]


You really like to play with that soldering iron don't ya. lol

[Kilo1-1]

You really like to play with that soldering iron don't ya. lol

lol. You know it.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5568/sideangle870.jpg

[PCSOGADGET]

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/PCSOGADGET/IMG_3704.jpg
Police Trade-In 870

[Death.]

What do you guys reckon the resale value of an excellent condition Mossberg 590A1 SPX 20" is? My friend wants to get rid of his and said he'd sell it to me for $400 and throw in a Mosin Nagant. $400 without having to fvck with FFL transfer costs is pretty good, I think.

[Chulo]

What do you guys reckon the resale value of an excellent condition Mossberg 590A1 SPX 20" is? My friend wants to get rid of his and said he'd sell it to me for $400 and throw in a Mosin Nagant. $400 without having to fvck with FFL transfer costs is pretty good, I think.
Good deal. take it with the Nagant

I have not seen a decent police-trade Mossberg under $350

[LineDoggie]

What do you guys reckon the resale value of an excellent condition Mossberg 590A1 SPX 20" is? My friend wants to get rid of his and said he'd sell it to me for $400 and throw in a Mosin Nagant. $400 without having to fvck with FFL transfer costs is pretty good, I think. Bet your ass it's a deal, Jump it like Jessica Albas ass

[Death.]

Haha, well consider it jumped on. I have to make a quick $100 to make it hurt less (Just paid tuition and bought books), but I'll try to have it by week's end.

[Death.]

Here she is

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/5901.jpg
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/5902.jpg

Very excited to own this..it may get tacticooled a little bit since all of my other stuff is plain jane.

[Ought Six]

Although it is pretty useless, there is just something truly awesome about a 12 gauge pump with a bayonet mount. p-)

[Death.]

I'll definitely be picking up an M16 bayonet, haha.

[SBL]

Nice .

[Laconian]

D3ath, that's a nice scatter gun

[armored_diplomacy]

Here she is

Very excited to own this..it may get tacticooled a little bit since all of my other stuff is plain jane.

Congrats, man !
woot

[rhino]

Although it is pretty useless, there is just something truly awesome about a 12 gauge pump with a bayonet mount. p-)

nobody is going to be saing that when the zombies come, finally







Im going to ask my question here, again; my shotty, winny defender fails to feed last round, it drops to the ground when I close the action, is it the spring or is it the feed mechanism???

[LineDoggie]

Although it is pretty useless, there is just something truly awesome about a 12 gauge pump with a bayonet mount. p-)Au Contraire, I guarded some detainees from a raid one truck ride to the BIF. I was armed with a Winchester 1200 Trenchgun with Fixed M1917 Bayonet. Hadjis eyes never left the 17" tip of that sticker on the end of my boom stick, they had been mouthy to the "Cue" with his M4.

[Death.]

Alright, got a Mossberg heatshield coming in for the 590 tomorrow or Friday, going to modify it to fit, then ordering the 12" Hogue LOP stock and handle for it as the LOP with the factory stock and limb saver is a bit uncomfortable for me. Then I'll see about adding a tacticool flashlight.

[ebk187]

My boy's uncle has a Benelli M3 shotgun he bought brand new 15 years ago which has never had a shell racked. Yesterday we popped its' cherry on semi-automatic action. I cummed so much.

[LineDoggie]

Was up at my Buddy's FOB in Walton NY this weekend. Building a 10/25M Range and checking sites for 3 other ranges up to 200M, siituated some tree stands for bow and rifle season. We assembled a Clay Pidgeon launcher sat morning and we were using it with some 3-4 Mossbergs, a 1965 Remingtion 1187, and one guy had a side by side.

The side by side let off both barrels at once on the 5th round of clays. It was made by American Gun Company & called the Knickerbocker. You could tell immediately at the sound something wrong happened. No external damage, and shooter was fine barring a sore shoulder. It has internal hammers, double triggers. I'm thinking Sear or Sear Spring failed.

[GoSka37]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/2cd37a4f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/ad11ffc3.jpg

Just got this from a friend last night. Gonna bring the barrel down to 18 1/2 inches or so. Any tips on doing that?

Also does anyone know where i'd be able to get some aftermarket parts for this? Or even anything that might work with it? I'd LIKE to get a pistol grip/retractable stock combo but I'm not so sure I'll be able to find one specifically for this.

[Bro Jangles]

Ive never heard of that make. looks like a mixture of a Ithaca and a 870. im betting aftermarkets will be hard to come by.

[LineDoggie]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/2cd37a4f.jpg

[/URL]


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/ad11ffc3.jpg

Just got this from a friend last night. Gonna bring the barrel down to 18 1/2 inches or so. Any tips on doing that?

Also does anyone know where i'd be able to get some aftermarket parts for this? Or even anything that might work with it? I'd LIKE to get a pistol grip/retractable stock combo but I'm not so sure I'll be able to find one specifically for this.




Springfield Mod 67 manufactured by Savage Firearms. It was their Low end Utility version of the Model 30

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=5574 (http://www.wisnersinc.com/exploded_views/Sav_Stev_pumps.htm)

[URL]http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=565


http://www.wisnersinc.com/exploded_views/Sav_Stev_pumps.htm

[rhino]

man Im no fun of those long barrels on a shotty, though I do understand the purpose

[GoSka37]

Hrm. I might sink some cash into a new plain stock. I do like the look of the wood stock. I might jar sand it and paint it though. Not sure yet.

Anyway. Any tips on shortening the barrel? Mostly in the measuring and cutting areas. Then again that's about all I would need to know.

[Death.]

This is the power of the light I have mounted on my shotgun. Pretty close to the actual light. Tree's an easy 75 yards away.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/m4.jpg

[LineDoggie]

Pround owner of a Winchester Model 1897 12 Gauge pump, takedown version. Got it at the Freeport LI gunshow this morning. Trenchgun heatshield is a modern repop for comparison.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0066.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0065.jpg

[Death.]

25 rounds of Federal LE buckshot came in today, going to pattern it on Friday, supposed to be some of the tightest grouping buckshot around.

[Chulo]

Pround owner of a Winchester Model 1897 12 Gauge pump, takedown version. Got it at the Freeport LI gunshow this morning. Trenchgun heatshield is a modern repop for comparison.
...]
Is your the "sweeper" version?

[LineDoggie]

No Disconnector it thats what you mean. Can be slam fired as fast as you can work it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7AOr3Xpy0

[Chulo]

Yup..slamfire.. a good reason why it was called a trench sweeper. I want

[OMON]

This is the power of the light I have mounted on my shotgun. Pretty close to the actual light. Tree's an easy 75 yards away.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/m4.jpg

what light is that? surefire?

[Death.]

Fenix TK-11R2

[paulmessen]

This is the power of the light I have mounted on my shotgun. Pretty close to the actual light. Tree's an easy 75 yards away.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/m4.jpg

They let you spotlight in FL?

[GoSka37]

Finally took the shotgun out last night. It's a good shooter. Fiance came along and it nearly knocked her over... made her stumble back a bit. But she kept on shooting it! It's kick is a bit hard on her shoulder though. Might get a pad for it... not sure yet.

Anyway, went out to the parents today to use the garage and saw the barrel down. Got it to 18 3/4" and did a dowel test on it. Passed with flying colors. Took the stock off and sanded it down, then gave it a few layers of plain old flat black spraypaint. It looks a lot nicer now IMHO. I'll probably re-bead it next week... Dad wasn't sure if he had the right bit for the threading.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/2cd37a4f.jpg

After.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/00e2c7b3.jpg

Some artsy fartsy crap.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/fa13a133.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/cb5de341.jpg

[James]

Finally took the shotgun out last night. It's a good shooter. Fiance came along and it nearly knocked her over... made her stumble back a bit. But she kept on shooting it! It's kick is a bit hard on her shoulder though. Might get a pad for it... not sure yet.

Anyway, went out to the parents today to use the garage and saw the barrel down. Got it to 18 3/4" and did a dowel test on it. Passed with flying colors. Took the stock off and sanded it down, then gave it a few layers of plain old flat black spraypaint. It looks a lot nicer now IMHO. I'll probably re-bead it next week... Dad wasn't sure if he had the right bit for the threading.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/2cd37a4f.jpg

After.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/00e2c7b3.jpg

Some artsy fartsy crap.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/fa13a133.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/KevinRyman/cb5de341.jpg

Before you do anything else... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=392628

[GoSka37]

So what exactly are you suggesting? Get another stock and cut it down?

[Kilo1-1]

I totally forgot about this thread. Older picture, but current state of the 870:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4172/sideangle.jpg

[LineDoggie]

Modifying the WInchester 1897.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0083.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0084.jpg

Replaced Magazine Plug with NOS Trenchgun plug w/ stud
Added Repro Heatshield/Bayonet mount
Slotting Buttstock for rear M1903 Sling Swivel/screws
Soon to be added
Russet Leather shell holder on Stock
Sling- either a M1907 or a Kerr
refinishing, thinking of having it Parkerized.

[GoSka37]

Went to the gunshop today ngot 15 rounds of ammo for free 10 buckshot 5 slugs. Jake wanted my opinion on them. I'll post the brand and stuff when I'm back home n

[GoSka37]

So the ammo was Wolf Ammo. 12 GA 9 Pellet buck shot 00, and slugs. The slugs were fun to shoot. Holding onto 5 rounds of the buckshot for home defense.

[Death.]

Some OMFG close-ups with my new 50mm. I beat the hell out of this thing at the range. It and the AK are the only two firearms I own that I can say I do that with, don't really care about how they look. Mossberg's parkerizing is about a tough as the crap that's on the romanian AKs, that is to say, bad.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/light.jpg
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/light2-1.jpg
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/light3-1.jpg

[mikester]

I see a lot of newer tactical shotguns have a "breaching barrel". This may sound like a stupid question, but what is that used for ?

[LineDoggie]

Breaching doors- Locks and Hinges using frangible loads

[mikester]

Thanks for the reply Linedoggie. Compared to a regular barrel what does a breaching barrel do to the shot pattern over a distance ?

[Chulo]

I see a lot of newer tactical shotguns have a "breaching barrel". This may sound like a stupid question, but what is that used for ?
And people like the tactiCool option of bayoneting someone with the spike

[LineDoggie]

Jaysus, finally got the Winchester 97 stripped to detail clean, PMCS it. Friggen Nuclear devices must be easier to disassemble than this thing. When you are reccommended to use a paperclip to remove a spring this isnt G.I. Friendly. Time for a ****ing beer

[FrankBooth]

Modifying the WInchester 1897.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0083.jpg

That is real nice.

What is the cut out space for under the barrel?

[Troubadour]

bayonet...

[7-6-2]

Right now, I have only "sporting" pump actions. One 870 Wingmaster and two Winchesters. The 1300 has been my preferred one as of late. As a left handed shooter, I like the location of its action release compared to the 870's location of that control.

Now that I think about it, I haven't been shotgun shooting for almost a full year. :(


I don't have any "tactical" shotguns now, and I would only want a more basic one with at the very least, a side saddle. Then would come the ghost rings. All in pump-action, of course. It's too bad Winchester parts are not that common.

[rhino]

yea, try getting them in Canada:roll:

[Bro Jangles]

*cough* mossberg *cough*

[ESOGSteel]

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/KSG-Bullpup-shotgun.jpg

It’s pump-action, civilian legal, holds 14+1 rounds, loads and ejects from the bottom, and sports an overall length of 26.5″ with an 18″ barrel. It’ll be available sometime in 2011 but it doesn’t have an MSRP yet. I’ll post more info as I find it.

Interesting concept, but how practical is it? and will KelTec be able to deliver it at a competitive MSRP?

[Chulo]

Looks interesting.. i would pay 500 for it.. :P

[ESOGSteel]

I was reading somewhere that the selector for the tubes is behind the pistol grip, seems like an odd place for it. But being able to switch between tubes and having each tube loaded with a different type of round would be somewhat useful.

[rhino]

looks like neostead shotgun, only the barrel and magtubes are reversed, and neostead is a semi i belive

[Bro Jangles]

looks like neostead shotgun, only the barrel and magtubes are reversed, and neostead is a semi i belive
neostead is a forward pump.

[rhino]

arrgh, it is, another thingy that has been reversed it seems

[ThePlato]

Looks incredibly innovative. Bravo to kel-tec. A cursory glance did at first remind me of the neostead, however further inspection proves this wrong I believe. I would love to try one out.

[ARGAR FORKBEARD]

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/KSG-Bullpup-shotgun.jpg


Interesting concept, but how practical is it? and will KelTec be able to deliver it at a competitive MSRP?

link to the kel tec page

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

[Ought Six]

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=5659

[Fallschirmjäger]

Looks like a Neostead except

That the KSG has the tubes on the bottom instead of the top
and the KSG feeds from the bottom instead of the top
and the KSG doesn't break open to load like the Neostead
and the KSG is a conventional pump instead of 'push forward' like the Neostead.

But, yeah, they're both bullpup designs.

[Ought Six]

.... and both selectable dual-feed from two tubular mags.

[playtym]

and the KSG doesn't break open to load like the Neostead

This is the best improvement over the Neostead design, now you can shoot-one, load-one without having to break the gun open to do so.

The next improvement should be to make a semi-auto version.


I came across this on another forum - a 10.5" AR and an 18.5" shotgun compared to the KSG.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/354/keltecshotgunsize.jpg

[Chulo]

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=5659

The incredibly short overall length makes it more nimble than a sawed off shotgun, and with a 14+1 capacity you don’t sacrifice ammunition capacity to get a shotty in a small package.and there is what is going to kill this gun. It will be restricted or not allowed

link to the kel tec page

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

MSRP has not been officially been set, but we are looking at the $800.00 range.

maybe $100 more than i would pay for.. but a good deal none the less

[Frens]

hope it's not a repost...I dont remember if I've already posted this vid :oops: p-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI3bJkyi1mQ

[Chulo]

The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. We actually tried this on several models and it was the same on each demo gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFw5Py1oY4

[ESOGSteel]

^ Humm so is that a design flaw? an intentional "safety" feature? or a prototype flaw?

[Fallschirmjäger]

Prototype shortcoming. Keltec says not to worry as they are already working on a better/newer trigger group. One of the reasons for showing off prototypes is so that you can get user feedback and make changes before the final product is released. Having many eyes and hands on the project often reveals things those who are too intimately involved are unable to see.

[seraosha]

This is still in testing, but the current MSRP is $800, so think $650 at your local gunshop in a few months/years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi0OWQCkcVc

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

[RSone]

Saw the vid a while back. Getting Neostead vibes here. Shame about the feeding issues though.

[Ought Six]

Repost, but a nice weapon. Too bad they are talking about an MSRP of over $800. $650+ is still too much IMO. I expected it closer to $500, coming from Keltec.

[Hyde]

LOL at their promotional video.... first they're advertising it for Police, okay, makes sense...but then in a gangbanger outfit? :lol:

[zapatero]

I've loled on that too.

[Jameten]

LOL at their promotional video.... first they're advertising it for Police, okay, makes sense...but then in a gangbanger outfit? :lol:

Gangbanger? Nooo it was a D3LT4, you didn't see that?

[seraosha]

thanks for the Neostead comparison...looks like a dead ringer for one. sorry for the repost, missed the first one, my bad.
But I've been in the market for a shotgun since I got my pistol, been looking long and hard at the saigas, but this KSG is something I'm going to keep an eye on.

[RSone]

thanks for the Neostead comparison...looks like a dead ringer for one. sorry for the repost, missed the first one, my bad.
But I've been in the market for a shotgun since I got my pistol, been looking long and hard at the saigas, but this KSG is something I'm going to keep an eye on.

I've looked a bit up, seems like most agree the Neostead only served as a design and concept inspiration, and that the two are quite different internally. Mag capacity on the KSG is better IIRC, 15 against 12.

[Magister]

Repost, but a nice weapon. Too bad they are talking about an MSRP of over $800. $650+ is still too much IMO. I expected it closer to $500, coming from Keltec.

It's a weapon with a unique features, that always allows manufacturers to command a premium.

[Chulo]

$650 at store? ? I would get it.. already saving up for one.. :P

[-[Crosshair]-]

Someone posted a video of him handling the KSG at SHOT Show this year. The trigger doesn't reset if you hold it down when you pump the shotgun and the employee there tried to pass it off as a "feature".

[Chulo]

-;5452565']Someone posted a video of him handling the KSG at SHOT Show this year. The trigger doesn't reset if you hold it down when you pump the shotgun and the employee there tried to pass it off as a "feature".
Yea i posted it on the shotgun thread




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFw5Py1oY4

The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. We actually tried this on several models and it was the same on each demo gun.

Im sure they will be fixing that

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

I'm about to ask a dumb question, so don't be too hard on me ... are there any restrictions on the magazine capacity of shotguns sold to non-LEO / non-military folks?

[Chulo]

I'm about to ask a dumb question, so don't be too hard on me ... are there any restrictions on the magazine capacity of shotguns sold to non-LEO / non-military folks?
Dont think so.. the Saiga series has a 30 round drum mag. Main restriction seems to be 922 compliance and length

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Dont think so.. the Saiga series has a 30 round drum mag. Main restriction seems to be 922 compliance and length

Thank you, sir.

Seems like when I was little, there was supposed to be some kind of plug in the magazine on shotguns being used for hunting.

I used to hunt pheasants, but one or two years have gone by.

Incidentally, I do like the look of this KSG.

[Chulo]

Thank you, sir.

Seems like when I was little, there was supposed to be some kind of plug in the magazine on shotguns being used for hunting.

Used to hunt pheasants, but one or two years have gone by.

Incidentally, I do like the look of this KSG.

Those are hunting restrictions. Some areas will only let you hunt with two shots in the gun for certain game.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Ah, thank you again, sir.

Would there be any reason to offer this dual feed shot as a semi-auto?

[Hyde]

thanks for the Neostead comparison...looks like a dead ringer for one. sorry for the repost, missed the first one, my bad.
But I've been in the market for a shotgun since I got my pistol, been looking long and hard at the saigas, but this KSG is something I'm going to keep an eye on.

Well, I see one trouble with loading in the promotional video, which they can shoot 50 times to get right. So, in my opinion, if I was looking for a defence shotgun, I would get one with a reliable system.

[Ought Six]

The state of California has a six-round limit on shotgun magazine capacity. Federally, there is no limit.

[-[Crosshair]-]

Canadian laws state that a center-fire pump/bolt action rifle or shotgun does not have a magazine capacity limit and must be a minimum of 26" for it to remain non-restricted. This shotgun should be good to go but I fear that it will be put on the evil guns list.

[KEEPER0311]

-;5452565']Someone posted a video of him handling the KSG at SHOT Show this year. The trigger doesn't reset if you hold it down when you pump the shotgun and the employee there tried to pass it off as a "feature".

You mean you can't slam fire it?

[C.Puffs]

-;5453610']Canadian laws state that a center-fire pump/bolt action rifle or shotgun does not have a magazine capacity limit and must be a minimum of 26" for it to remain non-restricted. This shotgun should be good to go but I fear that it will be put on the evil guns list.

Don't even suggest that. At least not until I've got mine! p-)

[SilentType]

6.5 lbs empty and 8.5 lbs loaded with buckshot. Nice, light enough and short enough to make it a dream to carry for hunting. Down in my area we can't hunt with rifle calibers and I have to travel at least three hours north of me to start using a rifle. Plus, I'd like to use this thing for 3-Gun competitions with my STG-556 to keep a "bullpup theme." :)

[Victory]

The state of California has a six-round limit on shotgun magazine capacity. Federally, there is no limit.

Nope, it is ten.

Heck, it might even be more, as it is a fixed tubular magazine, but I know that were allowed at least ten.

The KSG in it's current form is CA legal. For the record, IANAL.

-Vic

[Roaming East]

6.5 lbs empty and 8.5 lbs loaded with buckshot. Nice, light enough and short enough to make it a dream to carry for hunting. Down in my area we can't hunt with rifle calibers and I have to travel at least three hours north of me to start using a rifle. Plus, I'd like to use this thing for 3-Gun competitions with my STG-556 to keep a "bullpup theme." :)

Its like that in Eastern Va as well. I love my MP-153 to death but the thing is heavy as all out and the only way to get a sling on it is to jury rig one up. Light reliable shotgun that doesnt command a premium? yes please.

[Death.]

Not a fan.

[Dan2004]

I think I'll stick with my 500.

[kutter]

-;5453610']Canadian laws state that a center-fire pump/bolt action rifle or shotgun does not have a magazine capacity limit and must be a minimum of 26" for it to remain non-restricted. This shotgun should be good to go but I fear that it will be put on the evil guns list.

By "evil gun list" do you mean prohibited or restricted? If it's just restriced then it's a good excuse to get your RPAL. p-)

[SMGLee]

KelTec

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060419.jpg
Kel-Tec pump bull-pup shotgun are a great design, especially for home defense, just ass sights and a light, it is good to go.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060421.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060422.jpg
The level toogles left or right to allow the feed trey to draw from left or right tube. each tube holds 7 rounds.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060423.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060425.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060426.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060427.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060428.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss11/huge/P1060420.jpg


I really like this shotgun concept, but it really requires a mounting point for a light. some where I can mount a X300.

So my thoughts were to use a set of front and rear Daniel Defense iron sights, mount the mini scout light with remote pressure switch in front of the front sight post, or go high tech by running an EOTech XPS and a mini Scout light.

I found on initial impression on this firearm is the ability to dutch load your gun. I might run a OO in one tube and a #4 buck in another, or bucks and slugs....and since it is a pump gun, it is legal in all 50 states, and the left wing media wouldn't have a field day with you because you shot an intruder with a semi auto assault shotgun...

[Chulo]

love the last picture.. is that a HiSpeed bag? ;)

So how was the weight and feel of it ?

[beNder]

Forgive me for not going through this entre thread. Having said that I have a Mossberg 500 shotty. I have the pistol grip and is all black, just a combat shotty with an eight round capacity. I want to change the pump slide to one that has a grip as on the M4 to relieve the pressure that hits my wrist when firing. Also want to put a flashlight on the magazine tube and a stash of extra shells that can be mounted on the weapon. Anyone here know of a trusted company that sells upgrades that I can purchase directly.

Thank you in advance.

[Death.]

Mesa or Tacstar side saddle.
Black hawk Spec Ops Knox stock (this is pretty much your only choice for a decent AR15 style grip/stock, but it's still not that good
You can use a laserlyte tri-rail to mount the light, but there are more expensive, more purpose-built options available.

[TacoDelRio]

Thanks for those pics, Chen.

[LineDoggie]

Forgive me for not going through this entre thread. Having said that I have a Mossberg 500 shotty. I have the pistol grip and is all black, just a combat shotty with an eight round capacity. I want to change the pump slide to one that has a grip as on the M4 to relieve the pressure that hits my wrist when firing. Also want to put a flashlight on the magazine tube and a stash of extra shells that can be mounted on the weapon. Anyone here know of a trusted company that sells upgrades that I can purchase directly.

Thank you in advance.Are you shooting Magnums? they tend to hurt more in pistol grip config.

https://www.shotgun500tactical.com/

http://www.brownells.com/1/3/mossberg-500-shotgun-accessories

[seraosha]

Awesome, thanks Chen!

[ESOGSteel]

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Escort-Home-Defense-Shorty-cmyk.jpg

Great combination of old-school and tactical design. Escort Home Defense Shorty.

[Chulo]

is that an overunder? nearly as useless as that doublebarrel tactical

[LineDoggie]

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Escort-Home-Defense-Shorty-cmyk.jpg

Great combination of old-school and tactical design. Escort Home Defense Shorty.
Looks like something a Pimp in an old Burt Reynolds movie would carry

[Beowulf]

I have a pretty basic mossberg 500. Slowly upgrading it - probably put a ghost ring sight on it soon

[Chulo]

Preorders up


Apparently, you can pre-order the Kel-Tec KSG shotgun (http://www.thegunsource.com/item/516040__Kel-Tec_Rifles_Shotguns_KSG_12_18_5_14+1_TOP_PIC_RAIL.aspx?w=uIX6ocEC4l0%3d). It’s $675 dollars to order it online, which means after shipping and FFL transfer fees, you’re looking at ballpack $725 total cost out the door.
Interestingly, due primarily to the attention brought to the issue by Gun Nuts and our awesome readers, Kel-Tec said that they will fix the broken trigger before shipping the gun to production, so that’s a positive.


http://gunnuts.net/2011/02/23/kel-tec-ksg-pre-order/


700 is still a bit too much

[ZoneOne]

I expect demand to moderate at release but it will slowly taper off, as will the price.

[Chulo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W638QRLqUyc


The trigger reset fail (http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/01/21/kel-tec-ksg-shotgun-fail/) has been fixed. Good to see they listen to their customers!
They put cutouts all over the top of the ammo tube, so you could see how much ammo you have left. Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I’d prefer to have it less easy for dirt and dust to get in. The idea is good in theory though.
Updated action release lever. Looks good, but not intuitive if you’re used to how other shotgun makers do it.
Quick release choke adapter in the works.

[Beowulf]

cool design, interesting implications there with two barrels for ammo. Price should come down in a few years when other companies take on similar designs.

[RSone]

Does anyone know if the Neostead ever made it to the US in significant numbers? Seems to be a bit of a forgotten design, but the concept has apparently been revived by Kel-tec.

[Dinges]

Does anyone know if the Neostead ever made it to the US in significant numbers? Seems to be a bit of a forgotten design, but the concept has apparently been revived by Kel-tec.

As I understand it , it is still illegal to import and own in the US. Like the Striker 12 is seen as a DD - Destructive Device.

[Chulo]

As I understand it , it is still illegal to import and own in the US. Like the Striker 12 is seen as a DD - Destructive Device.
Cant figure out why though. Capacity and length seem to be within reason

[Dinges]

Cant figure out why though. Capacity and length seem to be within reason

I carry very little to no knowledge of US firearms legislation , so I'll take a wild guess. Because it is a non-US product? I know......its stupid.

[Chulo]

I carry very little to no knowledge of US firearms legislation , so I'll take a wild guess. Because it is a non-US product? I know......its stupid.
naa... we got plenty of shotguns built out of country... it must be some tard government thing

[Yarrick2]

I just got a Mossberg 590 with an ATI M4 style stock.
the things i want to do to it are: get a surefire weaponlight fore-end for it, ghost ring sights or get a mesa tactical stock adapter for it.
also repaint it from black to a dark green.

[Bro Jangles]

I have a pretty basic mossberg 500. Slowly upgrading it - probably put a ghost ring sight on it soon
Me too. I plan to get a Barrel and mag tube from a 590.

[Engine Mech]

My son just bought a Winchester 1911 semi auto. We have fired it but the action is very severe. These guns are known as the Head banger or widow maker. The more i read about them the less i want to shoot it. It points well and works good on clay targets but the way the action closes, some one is going to lose a finger.

[Chulo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_z6vqX0-K0
a long.. and i mean long (50 min) video

[SilentType]

Oh man. Seriously all do respect to Nutnfancy for his service (LtCol), but that guy just talks me to death. Also have you seen his EDC video? I thought it was suppose to be a joke, but the punch-line was never delivered. Good looking shotgun that's progressing well through development from the looks of it, but obviously there is going to be a learning curve for folks as far as the manual of arms goes.

[GoSka37]

I took my shotgun out earlier this week. It was a bit disappointing to find out that it wasn't ejecting spent shells, instead it would just rechamber the spent shell. I spent some time looking it over today and finally noticed that the right extractor.... clip? Hook? either way, it broke off somehow. Not too much of a biggie. Just a fifteen dollar fix (http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=117060M&catid=757).


BTW... does anyone know if any other brands or after-market stocks are compatible with the Savage Arms Springfield Model 67 B?

[KEEPER0311]

Looking to pick up another Remington 870 and pimping it out a bit.

[GoSka37]

Wow, good luck on that quest.

Pretty sure i'm **** out of luck as far as finding an aftermarket stock. Best I can do is get an old replacement stock.

[LineDoggie]

Phase 2 complete. Final phase 3 will post in the friearm thread.

153355Slightly off topic but I've never figured out why the Mossberg 500 trigger units disconnector doesnt work when removed from the action, but once pinned back in place the disconnector works.

[IMTT]

Here's a real shotgun!

http://youtu.be/FziECY1mSaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FziECY1mSaY

NAVSPECWAR, FBI and SOCOM are currently testing these.

[GoSka37]

That's pretty ****ing ridiculous. Not to mention the 20 round magazine is retardedly long.

[gaijinsamurai]

Actually, I would love to have one of those Saigas. They look like a lot of fun, even if that 20 rd. mag does look a bit silly.

[gaijinsamurai]

I don't have the required tattoos and body piercings necessary to pack a Red Jacket firearm.

[Jameten]

I don't have the required tattoos and body piercings necessary to pack a Red Jacket firearm.

heay you dont need to have tattoos or piercings to pack a red jacket firearm, If you are chewing tobacoo or if you like to hunt gators you also qualifies.

[gaijinsamurai]

Sorry. Don't chew copenhagen, skoal, or Beechnut, and there's no gators in Oregon. Also, I'm probably disqualified by having a college degree and actual military experience. :)

[Jameten]

Sorry. Don't chew copenhagen, skoal, or Beechnut, and there's no gators in Oregon. Also, I'm probably disqualified by having a college degree and actual military experience. :)

ahaa then you are fvucked my friend haha. You should have thought of that before you wnet to college ;)

[gaijinsamurai]

My mom should have thought of that when she didn't name me Earl Ray or Billy Joe.

[Jameten]

dont forget Billy Bob or Hoyt

[Bro Jangles]

My mom should have thought of that when she didn't name me Earl Ray or Billy Joe.
Hey, easy there friend!

[gaijinsamurai]

I meant that in a good way.

[James]

Here's a real shotgun!

Pfft. I can shoot a pump shotgun as fast as they are. I've only got 8 rounds, but if it takes more than that I'll take out my pistol.


NAVSPECWAR, FBI and SOCOM are currently testing these.

Those outfits all have a lot better stuff than Saigas.

[GoSka37]

Pfft. I can shoot a pump shotgun as fast as they are. I've only got 8 rounds, but if it takes more than that I'll take out my pistol.



Those outfits all have a lot better stuff than Saigas.

Even with 5 rounds I think I'm fairly set. Sure it'd be cool to have 8 but that's a little harder to do with my shotgun. It'd require a **** load of home modifications.

[Death.]

Mossberg is coming out with some pretty ridiculous ****. That one almost looks as dumb as the road blocker with that Barrett muzzle brake on it.

[GoSka37]

Again.. that's pretty ridiculous. At least it doesn't have a 20 round magazine?

[Kaskito]

Well, this is my old fashioned, non-tacticooled and always faithfull Mossberg 500A. Its a tad dirty because just came from a hunting trip, a lot of damn humidity here in the tropic.

Oh, at the bottom a Tarzan M21 russian vest ^^

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6551/img7143x.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/img7143x.jpg/)

[Ought Six]

Check this out, from Mossberg's website, pretty wild Cruiser model, even wilder that I'd like to try it.

153599

Edit: Oh yeah, they call it the Chainsaw. Probably could order it on your own and install it on your own railed forend.Looks like a door breaching weapon to me. In that type of use, the chainsaw handle actually is a good ergonomic design.

[Ought Six]

Hanging that big, bulky, heavy thing out front on a combat shotgun and destroying its balance is a really bad idea. There are some innovations that may work fine in specific kinds of competition, but are not really well suited for the real world. This appears to be one of those ideas.

[GoSka37]

It seems like it'd be retarded front heavy.

[James]

There are some innovations that may work fine in specific kinds of competition, but are not really well suited for the real world. This appears to be one of those ideas.

I agree.

12345

[gaijinsamurai]

Hanging that big, bulky, heavy thing out front on a combat shotgun and destroying its balance is a really bad idea. There are some innovations that may work fine in specific kinds of competition, but are not really well suited for the real world. This appears to be one of those ideas.

x2...........

[Toddy1]

My Mum and Dad have an Iver Johnson Champion as per the pics below (the pics are not mine but it is the same gun). Does anyone know much about it? It needs a lot of TLC i.e. the barrell has rusted a bit, what's the best and safest way to restore it?

Also the stock could do with some loving to restore the wood, once again any idea on best material to use?

Finally there is no firing pin either, do you think someone in Australia would be able to fix this or would I need a specialised restorer?

Sorry for the basic questions, I am new to firearms as the rest of the world doesn't grow up with guns like the USA :)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=157972&cid=1&stc=1

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=157971&cid=1&stc=1

[GoSka37]

Do they make speed loading tubes for shotguns? I feel like I've seen these around before... I feel like I kind of want to get one.

[LineDoggie]

Yes!!! Finally scored a Stevens "S" type Trenchgun Heatshield/Bayonet mount for a US Issue M520-30 Project restoration.

[Ought Six]

Do they make speed loading tubes for shotguns? I feel like I've seen these around before... I feel like I kind of want to get one.http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=18303/product/SHOTGUN_SPEED_LOADER

[Roy Batty]

She will finaly get fired for the first time next week....

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/6c4d7f6e.jpg

I'm thinking of buying another to "tac" up.....

[LineDoggie]

Nice classic styling, no ghetto bling piccatinny looks good.

[Roy Batty]

Daryl Gates appoved(ish)?.....;)

[LineDoggie]

Daryl Gates appoved(ish)?.....;)Looks like something the Hat Squad uses, or Lee Marvin in M squad

[Roy Batty]

Even better...Lee Marvin kicks Daryl Gate's ass any day.

[CheesyCigar]

Sure, Canadian gun laws suck a$$, but hey, at least we can still have our shotties...




http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/6c4d7f6e.jpg



After I'm done restoring my Enfield, I think I'll invest in one of these..

[GoSka37]

Sanded the black paint off my shotgun stock today. Gonna look into staining it. My wife wants it to be a cherry color.

[LineDoggie]

World War Two US Army issue trenchshotgun
Stevens M520-30 with "S" type heatshield/bayonet mount about 65% restored
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0126.jpg

[gaijinsamurai]

Nice, Linedoggie.

I love the old classics!

[UJB]

I need a new shotgun, and would appreciate any feedback. The 11-48 has finally decided it needs to go into semi-retirement. God knows, it deserves it after all these years.

Must be tough in the variable weather/terrain conditions, reliable, and versatile (I hunt just about anything good to eat), not too expensive (I'm on a budget and don't need fancy in a "usin'" gun) -- easy to clean would be nice. Oh, and I'm a rather stature challenged woman, so nothing too heavy or hard to swing, or difficult for my short little arms -- and I don't want to have to spend as much on modifications as I would for the blasted shooty thing to accomodate the stature challenges.
I'm old now too, so nothing that kicks like a mule would be appreciated as well.

Semi-auto, pump, double barrel, o/u, heck, even a good bolt action -- they are all fine by me.

Quite honestly it's been a long, long time since I even looked at shooty things in a serious buying mind, so I don't know what the newfangled ones are like, and that is my problem.

[Hisroyalhighness]

Baikal MP 153/Remington SPR453

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzmcMbLY2fI&feature=related
This fella looks like something around your neighborhood. I hear it fetches for $399.97-$299

[Bro Jangles]

Nothing beats a Mossberg 500

[LineDoggie]

Nothing beats a Mossberg 500Except a Mossberg 590A1

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/MP%20Net/MossbergM590A1.jpg

Barring that a Stoeger Coachgun looks fun

[UJB]

That's pretty impressive -- although I'd never do that to my shooty thing, it's nice to know it could hold up to that sort of abuse. Nice price too.

Heh, usually the fellas in my neighborhood aren't that well dressed, and I'm certainly not -- I'm usually in the rattiest clothes I own, modified with liberal splashes of blaze orange...you know, for a hint of color.

My daughter's got a Mossberg -- I believe a 500. She likes it quite a bit, and it does seem to get the job done. I've contemplated one.

[Bro Jangles]

I love my mossberg 500A, got a 24inch barrel for hunting and a 18.5 inch for home defense.



Barring that a Stoeger Coachgun looks fun
Almost "lost" my thumb to one of those,

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/c3d326ae0afc__1300471665000.jpg

[UJB]

What's it like to shoot? Compared to say, a Remington? I haven't fired my daughter's gun, and thus have no idea how it handles. Everyone tells me I need to get a 870 or 1100, but to be honest I always had a love-hate relationship with the 11-48; she was a tough old battleaxe and did her job well. Can't say as though I enjoyed her though (but enjoyment isn't really the reason for the whole affair anyway, so there's that).

I could have an unreasonable bias however. The Remington was my first semi-auto and our relationship was a bit fraught at times (Dad taught me, a long and hard tutelage beginning at age 7, with a bolt action and then an o/u -- so I wasn't used to that fancy automatic action stuff or the fancy sighting either -- it actually took some getting used to, which was frustrating at first).

I'm sure when I get something new I'll be b*tching about it, and wishing the old battleaxe was still young and spry.

[Bro Jangles]

870 is a good gun, i like the more modularity over the 500, but the 500 is still very modular. I like the placement of the safety and slide release on the mossberg, and the lack of... feeding lips(?) that would bite your thumb as you load a shell.

[UJB]

Yeah! I've snagged my thumb on more occasions than is proper -- which makes you call the relationship into question. It's not right that a gun should be so cruel to its owner, thus making you call it filthy names!
So that would definitely be something I'd want to consider.

[Cstafford]

I love my mossberg 500A, got a 24inch barrel for hunting and a 18.5 inch for home defense.


Almost "lost" my thumb to one of those,

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/c3d326ae0afc__1300471665000.jpg

Wtf :0

Derpherp12133

[Bro Jangles]

Wtf :0

Derpherp12133
8 stiches on saint paddies day. 2 barrels of 00 buck magnums.

[Cstafford]

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

There ya go

I've never seen anything like that BJ. had to hurt like a suma bitch

[Kilo1-1]

I'd say a classic Remington 870 in 20 gauge (or 12 if you prefer the extra umph) with the youth stock. Very handy and versatile.

[UJB]

O_O, what the heck?

Uhm, yeah, ok...I kinda like my shotguns to look like a shotgun. People would probably think I was in some militia or something, plotting government overthrow if I went out traipsing around with that thing.

[HK in AK]

Saiga 12

That's the ticket!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJg8WMsUaI&feature=related

[GoSka37]

Saiga 12

That's the ticket!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJg8WMsUaI&feature=related


Yeah, if you want to pay out the asshole for one.

[HK in AK]

$729 through Atlantic Firearms. My local dealer had them in stock for about $765.

[Bro Jangles]

Rather get a 200 dollar pump.

[GoSka37]

$729 through Atlantic Firearms. My local dealer had them in stock for about $765.

Like I said....


Rather get a 200 dollar pump.

I agree.

[HK in AK]

Different strokes for different folks. I consider the price, then I consider what I want to buy and then plan appropriately.

[UJB]

I'm not even sure if that setup would be legal in IL...we have some kinda strict (overly so) laws in the People's Republic of LOL.

Besides, I'm not going to war against the deer and the birds...I just need one shot, maybe two (although my eyesight isn't what it used to be, so three might be nice to have).
It's a little out of my price range anyway (I'm a poor old hillybilly, hence the necessity for hunting -- handful of slugs or shells gets you a fair amount of meat if you're lucky; now that's the economic way to feed the kids!).

[nite ryder]

Saiga's at my local dealer is $699. The dealer told me to wait a couple weeks because he was getting in some new pistol grip type after market stocks for the Saiga's. I already own an assortment of shotguns, but I don't have one that will make use of a 12 round magazine. For tactical shotguns I own two 870 Remington's and two 1100 Remingtons, and one Benelli Nova. One of each of the Remington models have rifled barrels, all the rest of my shotguns have smooth bores. The last two Mossberg's I owned I gave away, it isn't that I don't like Mossberg's but when you have close to a dozen shotguns, it's time to get rid of some of them. I have three SXS 12 gauge Coach Guns, and three 97 Win pump guns, plus two O/U skeet guns. Enough is enough, but I still want a Saiga, and want is some times more important than need.

[Chulo]

Saiga's at my local dealer is $699. The dealer told me to wait a couple weeks because he was getting in some new pistol grip type after market stocks for the Saiga's. I already own an assortment of shotguns, but I don't have one that will make use of a 12 round magazine. For tactical shotguns I own two 870 Remington's and two 1100 Remingtons, and one Benelli Nova. One of each of the Remington models have rifled barrels, all the rest of my shotguns have smooth bores. The last two Mossberg's I owned I gave away, it isn't that I don't like Mossberg's but when you have close to a dozen shotguns, it's time to get rid of some of them. I have three SXS 12 gauge Coach Guns, and three 97 Win pump guns, plus two O/U skeet guns. Enough is enough, but I still want a Saiga, and want is some times more important than need.
if he means the t9 pistol grips for the saiga the imho are not worth it, just do a conversion, its fun.

[Migs]

Anybody ever tried brenneke slugs out of a smoothbore barrel?
I bought some at ****s Sporting Goods to try them out, are they as accurate as foster style?
By accurate I mean they don't keyhole.

[rhino]

tried that type of slug over a yer ago, shooting at a discarded sat dish (about two ft diameter) at100m with a wiiny defender
proper aiming takes getting use to, with just a bead sight, but hitting it was not a problem after a bit

[Varg_Vikernes]

here is my Anti Zombies Shotgun ;)

http://snafu.altervista.org/HPIM1105.JPG
Franchi PA8
*Yes, that is the shotgun used in The Walking Dead, very nice gun......And Ive always found my Winchester Model 12, 12 Guage very trusty

[PALADIN]

Any alternative methods to mounting a weaponlight to a Remington 870? I currently do not have the budget for a Surefire forend.

[tercio67]

Any alternative methods to mounting a weaponlight to a Remington 870? I currently do not have the budget for a Surefire forend.

A Streamlight 69906 mount?

[Bro Jangles]

Any alternative methods to mounting a weaponlight to a Remington 870? I currently do not have the budget for a Surefire forend.

They make single and tri rail pumps that you could just attach a flashlight mount too, or you could mount a barrel clamp mount.

[The Baron]

I have my barely legal/nearly-a-sawed off Mossberg 500 w/ pistol grip for my under the bed shotgun. My all time favorite however is my Remington 870 police. I also have a Mossberg 500 bullpup which I don't really know what to think of! It is kind of the bastard child of my collection.

[Shake n Bake]

http://i.imgur.com/D2Vuc.jpg

[Death.]

I think someone turned your shotgun into an AR15 :O

[USA_1911]

Nice shotty shakenbake! Does anyone here have a kel-tec ksg? i am thinking about grabbing one.

[Beowulf]

looks cool

[Cstafford]

What is that? Make and model.

[Death.]

Looks like an 870 trigger guard.

[Shake n Bake]

Custom 870. My buddy's shop will start producing these very soon