Iran warns US against attack: killing field ready

[Flavius22]

TEHRAN: Iran vowed on Monday to be a "killing field" for any attackers, responding to a US warning of "painful consequences" if it failed to curb its atomic plans. US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton said on Sunday his country had been "beefing up defensive measures" to thwart Iran’s nuclear programme, which the West suspects is a quest for atomic bombs, not just nuclear-generated electricity.

Gholamali Rashid, deputy head of the armed forces, said the US did not understand how to operate in the Gulf region. "Iran’s armed forces, through their experience of war ...will turn this land into a killing field for any aggressor," the official IRNA news agency quoted him as saying. — *******

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=89099

[usa320]

yah, okay...ive heard that before...when was it...IRaq...1990....2002....

Armies from this region dont exactly have the best track records when it comes to fighting the rest of the civilized world.

[yiorgo]

they also didnt have Nukes...different playing field now

[BloodyTalon]

they also didnt have Nukes...different playing field now
O rly? It's doubful that Iran has any nukes right now. And even if they did and decided to fight below the belt, they're fvcked. We have enough nukes to turn every major city in Iran into a crator a thousand times over. A single Ohio Class sub alone carries 96 nuclear warheads. Something their crazed president should take into consideration if he wants to try anything funny.

[Bob Lawbla]

Everybody can talk the talk.

Few of them can walk the walk.

[Ea$y-8]

rofl

ok, ok, ok, first off I just wanna start this off by saying I fell over out of my chair laughing at the idea of that they could create massive killing fields for US troops! I think Iran is just trying to beat its chest and talk all big and bad until they get a nuke. After which they will sell it to a terrorist group who will use it against the US, Europe or Israel.

The best thing Iran came do to help out its war effort is to sell all their vehicles because they ain't gonna do them much good once their burning and poluting the air with smoke. I say if they want a fight let's give it to them and blow them with Abrams, Bradley's, A-10s and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Oh yah I forgot something... If they set off just one nuke within a hair of a American/Israeli/European ******** we will send them back to the 9th century for eternity

As a final note I say the fallowing...



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/images/iran-next.jpg

[RecceSoldier]

Well i'm not sure about all of that but Iran isn't another Iraq where u can just walk in and take it...it does have an army and airforce and it isn't afraid to use it and where are u gonna get all the troops to fight in Iran and keep Iraq from falling into chaos....

But don't get me wrong i think the U.S would win but the U.S would only win if they had major support from there allies U.K, France, Germany, Japan and Israel of course but still with all of that U.S would still suffer extreme losses, way more then Iraq.

[Ea$y-8]

One thing your all forgetting is...

WE DO NOT NEED TO STAY AROUND AND OCCUPY IRAN

They already fund and support terrorism and their is no international law saying we have to stay around. Iran would be a messy thing to occupy so I say we just forget it 90% of our losses in Iraq came during the rebuilding part. I suggest we invade Iran and hunt down all political/military leaders nuclear sciencists and other fanatical people and capture or kill them. The people of Iran elected their current crazy nutjob president so there is going to be no winning of hearts and minds he is what they voted for. We should just go in and take care of things once we are done leave and don't rebuild. And if AQ or some other nut takes over say 10 years down the road, we kick in the door once again.

Iran is building nukes and we all know what they will do if they get one. They will sell it to a terrorist group like AQ (who will use it against a major city or something else of great importentance) or use it themselves against Israel or US forces in Iraq (maybe somewhere else). A Iran with nuclear weapons is unacceptable. This is not about 9/11 it is about stoping a crackpot nation from getting nukes and launching a attack that will make 9/11 look like a April fools day joke. The best way to deal with it is to launch missile and airstrikes against ALL areas that have even the sightest chance of having WMDs and blowing them to spliters. And then launching a invasion to clean up Iran, depose of all unwanted elemets there, leave and not stay around for a second to rebuild. If things flare up down the road we go in a clean house one more time. I don't see any reason to stay around because I don't see the people of Iran willing to work with us.

[GSG9GIGNHKMP5]

Who thinks this is going to be an armed conflict with ground troops invading Iran? Just shout out whether or not you think we'll invade.

Also, with the shortage of manpower if this happens who thinks the draft will come back?

[Ea$y-8]

I think the draft will come back no matter if we invade Iran or not. Sooner or later if the GWOT drags on long enough the draft will without doubt make a return in both the US and UK.

And yes I think a invasion of Iran is going come, however I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

I think the draft will come back no matter if we invade Iran or not. Sooner or later if the GWOT drags on long enough the draft will without doubt make a return in both the US and UK.

And yes I think a invasion of Iran is going come, however I don't see it happening anytime soon.

I can't comment on the US, but it'll never happen over here. Not a chance in hell. Maybe the govenment will have to come up with some genuine incentives for young people to join the military for once.

[sp2c]

so what, just more blabla, if you attack us we will kill you ... reminds me of Hugo Chavez, an attack on either countries is highly unlikely atm, the guy is just preeching to his own choir

[Asheren]

The question is... Does US government has balls to carry full scale nuclear retaliation if Iran nuke. If they don't then every f%^kin dictator in this world will try to get nukes. If they do i can bet world media would add genocide to usual blame the USA.

[TacoDelRio]

Might I ask what goals you guys have in mind with invading Iran?
We took care of Saddaam in Iraq. I take it our goals would be to decommission Iran's nuclear program, right? Wouldn't it be "smarter" to do that without a full-on invasion?

I do think that if we were to fight another country after Iraq (which I think would be a stupid idea) in a conventional manner, then Iran would be the next one, being right next door and all the rest of history.

I'd bet Iran would be a much more difficult threat, as they have a large military, lotsa land, and despite middle eastern countries generally sucking when it comes to war, I still believe they would be more difficult to deal with than Iraq. Then again, I didn't get deployed so I don't know.

I just hope that those who really want to "kick Iran's ass" on this forum are willing to deploy to Iraq in a combat-arms MOS/job, dance across the border, and type them to death and whatnot.

[TacoDelRio]

I think the draft will come back no matter if we invade Iran or not. Sooner or later if the GWOT drags on long enough the draft will without doubt make a return in both the US and UK.

And yes I think a invasion of Iran is going come, however I don't see it happening anytime soon.

-I HOPE to God the draft does not come back. I don't want to see my country in such desperate need of troops that it must force people to join. That also doesn't seem to bring in the "best" of people, obviously. With conscription comes shorter training programs, which means soldiers won't get the training they deserve, which generally equates to more of my buddies getting killed, which I do not want to see.

-The GWOT will theoretically last forever, I think. So long as there are yahoos trying to hurt civilians so they can get on TV, well, there will be targets. And that means war.

My $0.38 (plus tax)

[Chulo]

TEHRAN: Iran vowed on Monday to be a "killing field" for any attackers,
lol.. humm.. sounds like they are cleaning up a big field for themselves to be destroyed at.. no really.. i dont see the world sending in troops into a field to be killed.. tatical strikes and bombs will destroy any group of troops and staging grounds.. Iran should say "they have cleard a killing field for themselves if any attackers want to come and use it on them"

[Ea$y-8]

-I HOPE to God the draft does not come back. I don't want to see my country in such desperate need of troops that it must force people to join. That also doesn't seem to bring in the "best" of people, obviously. With conscription comes shorter training programs, which means soldiers won't get the training they deserve, which generally equates to more of my buddies getting killed, which I do not want to see.

I don't think the draft will come back unless we invade Iran before we are finished with Iraq. If we invade Iran however before finishing Iraq... Then we will need the draft to keep our troops levels up and running. A draft isn't always bad for the military 70% of our armed forces in WWII was drafted. You don't need to lower the standards. We have already had to lower them to appeal to more people. If a draft is in place we won't have to lower them.

-The GWOT will theoretically last forever, I think. So long as there are yahoos trying to hurt civilians so they can get on TV, well, there will be targets. And that means war.

The GWOT won't last forever no war does. However the end to this war is no where in sight. Once this conflict is done with who knows who the enemy will be next? The conflicts of today had their seeds planeted in earlier conflicts and they will carry on and forge new battles. It is a chain reaction that shall never end

[Argyll]

GWOT.............or War against Islam?........are the US going to send Troops into Spain to eliminate the Basques, that have been a thorn in the side of the Spaniard for a long time?

What about the acts of terrorism being committed outside of the ME...especially in South America........

The GWOT will last as long as there's someone out there who hates the USA more than life itself!!

I wonder how many of you young bucks will be whooping for Joy, if you were drafted........and find yourself in a Middle eastern shythole,surrounded by the remains of your collagues?

[Hydro]

I wonder how many of you young bucks will be whooping for Joy, if you were drafted........and find yourself in a Middle eastern shythole,surrounded by the remains of your collagues?

Nah, these 16 year old political commentators are already natural born killers! Steely eyed and cold of heart, they'll take on the Iranian suicide squads.


I'd rather this Iran situation be sorted without another war.

[Havoc345]

argyll wut is your problem wiht iraq and america

from what i take it your a psd in iraq and every post you basically make is about how *censored**censored**censored**censored*ty america is and horrible situation on the ground in iraq

the part i dont get is your not a solider you can go if you want

your just a paid mercenary and if the situation is as bad as you say it is why dont you just leave

and by the way i mean no disrespect becuase you are doing a job most wont do

[Chulo]

argyll wut is your problem wiht iraq and america

from what i take it your a psd in iraq and every post you basically make is about how *censored**censored**censored**censored*ty america is and horrible situation on the ground in iraq

the part i dont get is your not a solider you can go if you want

your just a paid mercenary and if the situation is as bad as you say it is why dont you just leave

and by the way i mean no disrespect becuase you are doing a job most wont do

FLAME ON!
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[Strider]

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[Ea$y-8]

GWOT.............or War against Islam?........are the US going to send Troops into Spain to eliminate the Basques, that have been a thorn in the side of the Spaniard for a long time?

Well, we are fighting in the middle east because thats where the terrorists and a lot of anti-western people are!!! have you forgotten 9/11?

What about the acts of terrorism being committed outside of the ME...especially in South America........

We have gone down in South America a few times so we could deal with terrorism caused by drug lords like Pablo Escobar. We still have a number of people down there doing various CT operations against insurgent groups down in South America believe me. We also "corrected" Manuel Noriega in Operation Just Cause when he got outta control.

The GWOT will last as long as there's someone out there who hates the USA more than life itself!!

Probably, however islamic terrorism will not be the enemy of America forever, some day another foe will take its place. And we as we have done in the past will set out to addresses this problem and find a "solution" the enemy.

I wonder how many of you young bucks will be whooping for Joy, if you were drafted........and find yourself in a Middle eastern shythole,surrounded by the remains of your collagues?

I am more than willing to fight for my country so you can count me in (please no one reply to this I don't wanna hijack the thread).

[toad]

lol.. humm.. sounds like they are cleaning up a big field for themselves to be destroyed at.. no really.. i dont see the world sending in troops into a field to be killed.. tatical strikes and bombs will destroy any group of troops and staging grounds.. Iran should say "they have cleard a killing field for themselves...

Maybe we should order 100,000 plastic keys for the Iranians. Maybe even air drop them before real ordnance.

Your right Chulo, if it needs to be done it will come from above.

This was an effort to return to our regularly scheduled topic of Iranian rabble rousing....

[usa320]

no one is calling for invaded Iran. All were calling for is dropping a handful of bombs on Estfahan and Nataz and calling it a day.

[Argyll]

argyll wut is your problem wiht iraq and america

from what i take it your a psd in iraq and every post you basically make is about how *censored**censored**censored**censored*ty america is and horrible situation on the ground in iraq

the part i dont get is your not a solider you can go if you want

your just a paid mercenary and if the situation is as bad as you say it is why dont you just leave

and by the way i mean no disrespect becuase you are doing a job most wont do

This is about IRAN.!!!!

and I'm not a mercenary either............go and look up the definition acording to the Geneva Convention 4th protocol

[remo williams]

argyll wut is your problem wiht iraq and america

from what i take it your a psd in iraq and every post you basically make is about how *censored**censored**censored**censored*ty america is and horrible situation on the ground in iraq

the part i dont get is your not a solider you can go if you want

your just a paid mercenary and if the situation is as bad as you say it is why dont you just leave

and by the way i mean no disrespect becuase you are doing a job most wont do
not a very good idea,if the mods don't get you...the btdt's will ,and there are many on this forum,including the "merc" your calling out...:roll: just some friendly advice from a future bystander to the bbq you are about to spark up...

[TacoDelRio]

no one is calling for invaded Iran. All were calling for is dropping a handful of bombs on Estfahan and Nataz and calling it a day.

Who's gonna do BDA? That requires BOTG. p-)

+5 for me woot

[Tielir999]

I wonder how many of you young bucks will be whooping for Joy, if you were drafted........and find yourself in a Middle eastern shythole,surrounded by the remains of your collagues?

Well as I recall the Army drafted and not the Marines, so i wouldnt have to be drafted. I could join the Marines (or the Navy/Air Force) as i already plan on doing. But i see your point most teenagers in the United States are a bunch of POS's and just sit around smoking pot, drinking, and playing video games. And most of these teens would not want to serve their country. But thank God theirs atleast some out their who are willing to.

[remo williams]

Well as I recall the Army drafted and not the Marines, so i wouldnt have to be drafted. I could join the Marines (or the Navy/Air Force) as i already plan on doing. But i see your point most teenagers in the United States are a bunch of POS's and just sit around smoking pot, drinking, and playing video games. And most of these teens would not want to serve their country. But thank God theirs atleast some out their who are willing to.
to take it one step further..there are those(who i believe argyll and hydro were addressing)who would sit back and reap the rewards of your and many other's sacrifice,but basically shyte down your back and call it rain when you came home.ex he's just some crazy,angry vet.or yeah lets get em,you got my back right?go to it.yet these very same persons (cads really) ,are usually the ones who have and implement their"connections"to avoid something such as a draft.Sucks that ther are such tape worms around,and to be sure,i at least have the utmost respect for anyone ad,psd,or retired who served...

[BloodyTalon]

I wonder how many of you young bucks will be whooping for Joy, if you were drafted........and find yourself in a Middle eastern shythole,surrounded by the remains of your collagues?
So? I'm already taking JROTC, and I'm planning on taking AFROTC in college. I have no problem with getting drafted if it came to that. Of course, I can't speak for the whiney Emo-kids who think they're "punk" and individualists just because they listen to Green Day.

[Argyll]

Yo're already in a Military program,so enforcing the draft wouldn't effect you, but the 18 year olds who just started college,I'm sure would be fcuking pissed if they were drafted and had to go and fight Iran over a huge **** contest......So Iran ignores the US,and goes ahead,you hit them causing more wounds to be open in the Muslim world,and the re start over again.....and they will, what then?......keep hitting them,they'll be more determined,and the more they will be seen as victims of US Aggression,at what point will you realise that no matter what action you take,they just start over again?.......

The simplest soloution would be to actually have the West help Iran build it's Nuclear facilities,and show them how to use the energy,using Western contractors to run the facilities,then they could keep an eye on whether the Iranians were enriching for weapons grade,and they'd be in a position to stop it.........If Iran really wanted to they could buy Nuclear weapons from Rogue Former Soviets States and use them against their sworn enemy,everything and anything can be bought at a price including such weapons,why wait 5 years to finally have the technology,when they can buy one in the coming months?.........how can anyone be so sure they haven't already done this, and have it in place,in the event of an attack against them,they detonate it?

[Ea$y-8]

Well as I recall the Army drafted and not the Marines, so i wouldnt have to be drafted. I could join the Marines (or the Navy/Air Force) as i already plan on doing. But i see your point most teenagers in the United States are a bunch of POS's and just sit around smoking pot, drinking, and playing video games. And most of these teens would not want to serve their country. But thank God theirs atleast some out their who are willing to.

Wrong. The USMC did draft when it was in effect but did not do it half as much as the Army did.

[Tielir999]

Really i did not know this. How did that work 2 different bracnhes drafting? what people would go to what or how did that work?

[Ea$y-8]

ethier the Army or the Marines drafted you and that was the service you went into.

[XxDualityxX]

You know we should have finished saddam ten years ago instead we mediated I just hope if we are gonna go to war lets do it right and finish the job. I also would prefer to invade Iran before they have nukes as opposed to when they do. You know just because there are certain political barriers and short of manpower it doesnt change the fact that there is evil out and there is people who create injust acts and should be stopped. If we are to ever have a better place we atleast have to create a human society that allows it to make its own desicions and not hushed when it wants to change.

[Ea$y-8]

You know we should have finished saddam ten years ago instead we mediated I just hope if we are gonna go to war lets do it right and finish the job. I also would prefer to invade Iran before they have nukes as opposed to when they do. You know just because there are certain political barriers and short of manpower it doesnt change the fact that there is evil out and there is people who create injust acts and should be stopped. If we are to ever have a better place we atleast have to create a human society that allows it to make its own desicions and not hushed when it wants to change.

x2

You are right, we should have deposed of Saddam during desert storm. It is a much better idea to invade Iran now when it doesn't have nukes than to wait until it does... It does not take a military mastermind in league with Erich von Manstien to tell us that! I also think we should try to keep the UN out of all other military operations on the scale of desert storm from now on... Lets not forget Korea where they told us NOT to advance deeper into NK in 1951. Hell I am sure if the UN or a organizion like it had been running things in WWII the Germans would have won. People need to understand this has nothing to do with 9/11 but about stoping a crackpot nation like Iran from getting nukes and unleashing it on the west!

[ABNINF]

You're forgetting the whole reason that Bush Sr was able to build his "grand" coalition. He promised that they were going in ONLY to liberate Kuwait. If we had gone further into Iraq, occupied it, and toppled Saddam it could have incited more war, or caused the coalition to fall apart. They were trying to avoid the "It's a war on Islam" concept.

[Ea$y-8]

They were trying to avoid the "It's a war on Islam" concept.

When will this damned error (era) of stupid PC take a back seat?

[ABNINF]

Never, politics will always be there.

[Ea$y-8]

Never, politics will always be there.

I know politics will always be around but when will BS political correctness end?

[Chulo]

never.. thats what politics is :)