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sp2c
03-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Translated from mindef.nl for a buddy of mine and I figured it would fit in here as well but don't bug me about the grammar




Battle in Javasea, end of colonial Empire

GOING DOWN FIGHTING

The sailors on board the ships of Striking Force East, that left the
harbor of Soerabaja on februari 26, 1942 to intercept a japanese convoy
headed for Java, Must have had little illusions about their destiny.
The flag with the red sun had been flying over a large part of Asia for a
while now. Hong Kong had fallen, the supposedly invincible fortress
Singapore had been overwhelmed.
And on Singapore the Americans where getting into more and more problems.
The enemy seemed unstoppable.

The allied squadron consisted of four nationalities: Dutchmen, Brittish, Americans and Australians.
Striking Forced east was a ragtag formation of ships, that had never trained together before, with different tactical doctrines and communications systems.
Additionally the Soerabaja navalbase was heavily besieged; the Japanese executed airattacks on a daily basis. These had ruptured the fuellines to the harbors, which caused problems with refuelling, but what was even worse is that the ships were forced to remain out of port during the day. due to the fact that an enemy landing in the dark was to be expected they were also on standby when and when the hour U finally arrived the crews were exhausted.
That afternoon the commanders had held their last meeting in the naval headquarters of Soerabaja. They appeared at the meeting in white ironed uniforms with shining symbols. Outside the howling sirens announced a new air attack but nobody really cared. At the arrival of Rear admiral Karel W.F. Doorman, who commanded Striking Force East, all stood up and at attention. Doorman nodded kindly and shook hands with the newly arrived Brittish commanders. (their ships had been transverred from Striking Force West in Tandjong Priok, after a Dutch Catalina had spotted the eastern of 2 japanese invasion convoys on the 25th of februari.)
After the greeting the meeting started. "the orders were sort out of neccessity", according to the report of Captain Oliver Gordon, commander of the Brittish heavy cruiser HMS Exeter. He describes Doorman's task as "far from easy" and continues: "I liked him from the beginning and was convinced that he was very capable."

Point of exhaustion.
Vice-admiral Conrad E.L. Helfrich, in this part of the world maritime supreme commander felt the easter fleet, which was closest, posed the bigges threat. She consisted of fourty transportvessels, escorted by a light cruiser and six destroyers, a covergroup of two heavy cruisers, a ligt cruiser and seven destroyers. In an attempt to intercept, the Striking Force East weighed it's achor at around seven o'clock in the evening. The entire night and the following morning she searched the eastcoast of Java, north of Madoera and between the island Bawean for the Japanese. Without succes, she was searching a little too far to the south. The message that American B-17 bombers had allready found and attacked the target did not reach Doorman, who remained unaware of the correct position of the enemy. The Japanese however did have succes.
Around 08.00 on the 27th they caught the US aircraftcarrier Langley, which was on it's to Tjilitjap where it was expected later that day with 32 badly needed P-40 fighters and 33 airmen. Sailing at daylight was risky business, but Helfrich did not see any other choice. Striking Force East did not have aircover for the upcoming battle and every minute counted. Unfortunately the gamble turned out badly and a little after half past two in the afternoon, Japanes aircraft sunk the Langley and it's precious cargo.
After her fruitless seach Striking Force East returned to Soerabaja. While he was still underway, Doorman communicated that the crew had reached the point of exhaustion.
They would however still be tried to the maximum becase at around 13.57 hours a Dutch reconnaiscance aircraft spotted the illusive convoy and this news reached the rear admiral at 14.27 hours. He immedeately turned around and commanded the others to follow.

Enemy sighted
At full speed the allied squadron steamed towards the enemy, divided over three keellines. On starboard sailed a screen of three Brittish destroyers, in the center the cruisers Hr. Ms. De Ruyter with Doorman on board, HMS Exeter, USS Houston (whose aft turret had been destroyed by bombs), HMAS Perth and Hr. Ms. Java. Two Dutch destroyers and four American veterans of the first worldwar, formed the port side line. The Japanese admiral Sokichi Takagi knew, thanks to aerial recon, that the Striking Force East was on it's way. His crew prepared for battle with a visit to the ships altar, and bound prayer scarfs around their heads. At around four o'clock a lookout on the light cruiser Jintsu, the flagship, reported masts at 17 miles to the southeast. Enemy sighted! Ensign Kimura on the heavy cruiser Haguro felt the De Ruyter with it's strange built was a frightening sight. As the Dutch cruiser grew it took the shape of 'a prehistoric monster'.
At 16.16 the Japanese opened fire followed a minute later by the allies. Doorman was quickly forced to change course to to prevent the enemy from cruising past his stern, in which case he could only employ his forward guns, while they threw all their guns into the battle. A manouvre the Brittish called crossing the T.
Soon the fleets sailed opposite of eachother, during which it rained shells back and forth. On board the Australian Perth Lieutenant Pol Owen followed the trail of projectiles heading for his ships. Moments before they would hit the water they would transform for a fraction of a second in to a black statue. A fenomenon few men witnissed.
The Japanese also experienced plenty of nerve wrecking moments. The Houston for instance used red paint to see where her grenades hit and the huge, bloodred fountains that rose from the sea caused some panic on the heavy cruiser Nachi.

Deciding moment
The airsupport that Doorman had repeatedly requested remained denied to him. It must have stung when three A-24 Dauntless divebombers with fighter escort arrived over the battleground, under strict orders only to attack the invasionconvoy. This they did but it had no effect. Had they instead picked the Takagi's three waterplanes out of the sky and led the fire of Striking Force East then the battle might have turned out differently. After several torpedoattacks failed and the allies neared the convoy, the Japanese layed down a smokescreen. This blinded Doorman completely but Takagi could see over it thanks to his aircraft. Yet the artillery duel continued. Every seabattle however has a deciding moment and in the Javasea it came at eight minutes past five, when a grenade exploded in kettelroom B of the Exeter. The Brittish cruiser, with her speed halved, turned sharply to port to give the upcoming Houston room to manouver. After an identical reaction of the American the other commanders - the primitive communication system had by now completely collapsed - thought that Doorman had ordered to evade torpedo's and performed a similar manouvre. Only the De Ruyter retained it's course untill Doorman realised what was going on. To make things worse Hr. Ms. Kortenaer was split in to by a torpedo. Around the same time the Brittish destroyer Electra went down in an attempt to get the attention of the Exeter. Escorted by the Witte de With the damaged Brittish cruiser managed to reach Soerabaja.

Endgame
After the departure of the Exeter Doorman continued the fight with grim determination. He kept aproaching the enemy, despite the fact that his fleet was severely weakened and his men had long since passed their point of exhaustion. A japanese torpedostrike was repaid by the Americans and at around half passed six both fleets lossed contact. But while Doorman had to guess at the position of his enemy, the enemy kept following him by aerial recon. The japanese planes would drop flares on a regular basis.
At around nine o' clock the American destroyers left the squadron to take up fuel in Soerabaja. Shortly afterwards HMS Jupiter ran on a min. The endgame began at eleven o' clock when both fleets clashed again. The De Ruyter fired the first salvo. Around a half hour later both Dutch cruisers were hit by long lance torpedo's. They sank fast and took hundreds of men including Doorman with them. For a moment it was silent then the men on the Houston heard the survivors of the Java in the water cheer Hurray for the queen three times...
Afther this disaster Perth and Houston broke contact and managed to escape to Tandjong Prok. During an escape attempt on the 1st of march they would, allong witht he Exeter and escort, fall prey to Japanese squadrons. The drama had ended and with it the Dutch colonial Empire.


I'll have pictures tomorrow or you can click on the defensiekrant in question (PDF, in Dutch though) and see for yourself
http://www.mindef.nl/binaries/LRDK09_tcm15-60835.pdf


Striking Force East

Heavy cruisers
HMS Exeter (20 cm guns)
USS Houston

Light cruisers
Hr.Ms. De Ruyter (15 cm guns)
Hr.Ms. Java
HMAS Perth

Destroyers
Hr.Ms. Witte de With
Hr.Ms. Kortenaer
HMS Electra
HMS Jupiter
HMS Encounter
USS J.D. Edwards
USS Paul Jones
USS Alden
USS John D. Ford

victis honor
03-08-2006, 12:04 PM
nice post loved this part (didnt know about it)

"For a moment it was silent then the men on the Houston heard the survivors of the Java in the water cheer Hurray for the queen three times..."

HOLLiS
03-08-2006, 12:52 PM
I have heard this story through my childhood. My dad was on the Alden (USN 1937 -1957). The story of the escape to Austrialia is even better. He was in charge of the bow gun on the Alden. He told me, each gun would estimate range and choose to open fire. He did not feel they where in range of the Japanese ships when the Ford opened up fire. He turned to look at the Ford, when it went up in a big gieser of water. The CO, turned the Alden towards where the Ford went down. There were no surviors. The CO, then "kicked it in the ass and got out of there.

The Cans even went in range for torpetoe runs. The cans were under Japanese fire for a long time before they were in range to return fire. The cans job was to lay smoke for the squadron.

Thanks for Posting the story.

HOLLiS
03-08-2006, 12:54 PM
was going to mentioned, dad mentioned seeing the Dutch fight hand to hand with the Japanese on the Island. After the Naval Battle, they were told they could, beach the ships, use them as fortresses and then join the Dutch onland, or make a run to Austrialia.

sp2c
03-08-2006, 07:21 PM
Karel Willem Frederik Marie Doorman was born on the 23th of april 1889 in Utrecht as a son of army officer Carel Willem Frederik Doorman and Anna Catharina Theresia Maria Kleintjes. On the 4th of september 1906 he arrived as an ensign third class at the Royal Netherlands Navy. On the 1st of Septemer 1908 He was promoted to ensign second class and at the 24th of august 1910 he had climbed up to ensign first class. He then served several years in the Netherlands Indies, where he was promoted to Lieutenant second class.

In 1915, two years before the birth of the Naval aviation service, he got his FAI civil flight status and in 1916 his naval flight status. Two years later Karel Doorman and others created the Naval aviation service, and even though he is clamed as being the first commander of the naval airbase "De Mok" as one of the oldest MLD-aviators he never was. According to a personal interview I had with his grandson, Jan Maarten Doorman, this turned out to be a huge misunderstanding!

In 1918 Karel Doorman becomes an instructor at Naval airbase "De Kooy" near Den Helder, and from 1919 until 1921 he is commander of "De Kooy". At the 6th of may he is joined in mariage with Justine Amatha Dorothea Schermer, a commitment that was ended at the 16th of June 1934. From this marriage two sons and a daughter were born. On the 1st of November 1920 he was promoted to naval lieutenant first class. On the second of november 1921 he was placed at the higher naval military school where he graduated with the remark 'more extensive knowlegde science'.

End 1923 he went to the east for a second time, this time for four years, and served both on land as on the fleet. After his return to the Netherlands in 1928 Doorman was assigned to the Naval department untill 1931. In 1932 he went to the east as commander of the mineslayer Hr.Ms. Prins van Oranje. This third period in the far east lasted two years on which he only served on Destroyers, as commander of Hr.Ms. Witte de With and Hr.Ms. Evertsen. Meanwhile he was promoted to naval Lieutenant Captain. After his return to the Netherlands in 1934 he was appointed chief of staf of the navy in Willemsoord, a function he held from june 1934 to 4th of september 1937. At october the 8th, 1934 Doorman married for the second time, this time with Isabella Jacqueline Julie Jeanne Heyligers and from this marriage a son was born later on.

In 1937 Doorman went back to the Netherlands East Indies for the fourth time, where he was commander of the cruisers Hr.Ms. Sumatra and Hr.Ms. Java and from the 17th of august 1938 until the 16th of may 1940 he was tasked with the command of the naval aviation service in the Netherlands Indies, which he tried to get to a high state of preparedness, because it was clear to him that the aircraft would play a vital role in any future war. From 13th of june 1940 to the 27th of februari 1942 he commanded the Dutch squadron in the Netherlands Indies. Meanwhile he was promoted to rear admiral on the 16th of may 1940. In this function Doorman had to prevent Japan, which on which the Netherlands had declared war on december 1941, to press into the archipolo and land troops. For this reason he was also given command of an allied squadron that would operate in the Indies waters from the 3rd of februari 1942. As commander Doorman has proven himself an excellent leader by turning the warships under his command into an effective fighting force. He realised that airsupport would be of vital importance if he wanted to inflict sever losses upon the Japanese. On the 26th of februari 1942 Doorman is ordered by vice admiral Conrad elfrich, commander of allied naval forces in the ABDA area (BADA = American, British, Dutch, Australian), to attack a japanese invasionfleet. Due to insufficient airsupport, bad communications, exhaustion of the allied personnel and unaweredness of the Japanese long range torpedo, this task seemed doomed to fail from the beginning. On the 27th of februari 1942 the deciding seabattle took place between Doormans' squadron and the Japanese squadron led by Rear admiral T. Takagi, which existed of fourteen destroyers, two light and two heavy cruisers. During this heroic battle Doorman is killed. Even though he had more then enough time, over one hour, to abandon his flagship. He decides to, entirely according naval traditions, to stay on board and go down with his ship. For his heroic service during the battle in the Javasea he was appointed Knight of the third class of the military williams order.

Doorman had an excellent mind, a large general development and stood out to his colleagues by his excellent manners and ability to make fast contacts. To his colleagues he could sometimes act in a demeaning and impatient manner and to the common sailor he was stict, but just. He was not an exceptional tactician, but certainly had more qualities then the avarege naval officer from his years. In his memory after the second world war an aircraft carrier was named Karel Doorman. The construction of this ship was started in 1942 in Birkenhead in the United Kingdom. In januari 1945 it was taken into service by the Brittish navy as HMS Venerable. The Venerable was then purchased by the Netherlands in 1948 at the price of 27 million guilders and was baptised in may 1948 to Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman. The aircraftcarrier was part of the fleet untill 1968 and was sold to the argentine navy in may 1968.

On the 20nd of Her Majesty Queen Beatrix baptised the new frigate 'Karel Doorman' in Vlissingen, with which the name of this Dutch naval hero was continued by the royal Netherlands navy. The weaponshield of Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman read for a long time the title "Ik val aan, volg mij". These famous words were supposed to have been spoken by Karel Doorman during the battle in the Javasea. This however is a large international misunderstanding, because he commanded a large international unit and so would've never given the order in Dutch. He did however speak the following words: "All ships follow me" and the new shield of Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman got the new title "Follow me".

http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel-afb/doorman_01005_1g.jpg

translated from:
http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel/594

kind of ironic that we only got 'his' carrier the same year we lost the Netherlands east Indies for good

http://www.marine.nl/images/KD2_tcm10-6432.jpg

sp2c
03-08-2006, 07:35 PM
http://www.marine.nl/images/KDOR%20embleem_tcm10-1496.jpg
http://www.marine.nl/images/DOO-2%20laag-600_tcm10-19752.jpg

The new Karel Doorman ... unfortunately no aircraft carrier but she brings it's own Westland Lynx to any party :)
As said the shield now says "follow me" in English from "All ships follow me" which he signalled to the other ships after the Exeter got hit and the other cruisers mistook it's manouvering for an incoming torpedo attack and broke the line.

Mastermind
03-11-2006, 05:53 PM
Reminds me of the Poles charging German tanks with horse mounted cavalry...extroadinarly brave. It made a statement...it demonstrated elan...it was the only thing they could do....but it was not war.

sp2c
03-11-2006, 07:11 PM
well not really true

when we declared war on Japan, our strategy in the east changed from protecting the territories in the east to delaying the Japanese advance so that the Americans could rebuild their strength before the Japs reached Australia, the battle in the Java Sea fits into that strategy, that's why the squadron had no submarines or airsupport, this had been deployed elsewhere.

Helfrich (or Doorman, not sure) wrote in a report near the end that "The situation in the east would be a lot better if we didn't have such powerfull allies"

Our Netherlands East Indies forces were deemed expandable assets for the alliance in the larger scheme of things ... it may not be pretty but it is war

Mastermind
03-12-2006, 12:32 AM
well not really true

when we declared war on Japan, our strategy in the east changed from protecting the territories in the east to delaying the Japanese advance so that the Americans could rebuild their strength before the Japs reached Australia, the battle in the Java Sea fits into that strategy, that's why the squadron had no submarines or airsupport, this had been deployed elsewhere.

Helfrich (or Doorman, not sure) wrote in a report near the end that "The situation in the east would be a lot better if we didn't have such powerfull allies"

Our Netherlands East Indies forces were deemed expandable assets for the alliance in the larger scheme of things ... it may not be pretty but it is war

I think the forces were hardly expendable in a military sense. the forces available to defend Austraila were pretty thin. The all out "charge for the guns" agains such a superior force, with no air support or subs was, in my poor opinion, was simply a waste of very scarce resources. Often, in times of crisis, when faced with seemingly overwhelming opposition, there is a tendency to throw in "all or nothing". The Japs had a pretty good idea of the forces still available, but did not really know where they were. By concentrating the little that was left and presenting it enmass to the enemy, I believe was playing right into the enemy hands. The enemy had plenty of ships and planes to lose and still be huge. The Allies had nothing to spare to lose. In the end, the enemy knw there was nothing laft as the forces were completely eradicated in one swift blow. It was gallant and brave beyond my imagination....but, it was not...well, let me just say, those scant resources might have been used to better advantage.

victis honor
03-12-2006, 05:22 AM
The inpotant thing there whas making sure that the japs didnt get the isle, and since there where 2 fleets heading that waythey had to do something. Like already posted any forces close to the enemy where supposed to delay the enemy for as long as possible and cuase maximum damage possible, if they only had a litle airsupport they good have done allot more damage.

sp2c
03-12-2006, 05:26 AM
yeah well they wanted to break through the japanese escorts into the juicier invasion fleet, if even one of these cruisers had gotten through it would've absolutely massacared it, they came very close too but they were unaware of the Japanese navy's full might

Mastermind
03-12-2006, 05:59 PM
Regardless...the effort can never be denied as having been extraordinarily gallant.