View Full Version : California Joe's Wood
Durandal
03-05-2004, 02:19 AM
Logs of Walnut, feshly cut (when the picture was taken abot three weeks ago).
http://homepage.mac.com/thesw0rdofroland/.Pictures/misc/IMG_3604.JPG.JPG
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A view of our small saw mill (portable even) in use.
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Joe gets the first blank I cut.
Oh, and Joe. I now know how to "Quarter Cut". Its a pain in the ass, but it reduces the amount of warping and is a MUCH stronger cut. Definately worth the hassle....you also get a bit more interesting wood grain pattern out of it.
Guttorm
03-05-2004, 06:29 AM
SO, what wil Joe be using this wood for?
Macs.
03-05-2004, 07:11 AM
SO, what wil Joe be using this wood for?
For his fire-place ?
Or for that: :bash:
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:57 AM
A rifle stock...
I am thinking of making custom .45 1911 grips myself...
Who knows.
It takes freshly cut and hewn lumber about a year and a half to two years to properly dry, so I am going to need some patience.
So far so good..
farmgirl
03-05-2004, 09:06 AM
Thanks for sharing, Durandal. I know I've been anxious to see Joe's wood. p-)
Durandal
03-05-2004, 09:14 AM
Thanks for sharing, Durandal. I know I've been anxious to see Joe's wood. p-)
And what sexy wood it is. ;)
farmgirl
03-05-2004, 09:17 AM
Thanks for sharing, Durandal. I know I've been anxious to see Joe's wood. p-)
And what sexy wood it is. ;)
Yes, yes it is.... almost as nice as yours.... ;)
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 09:20 AM
A rifle stock...
I am thinking of making custom .45 1911 grips myself...
Who knows.
It takes freshly cut and hewn lumber about a year and a half to two years to properly dry, so I am going to need some patience.
So far so good..
You can't kiln-dry it?
MolliG
03-05-2004, 09:22 AM
I am thinking of making custom .45 1911 grips myself...
*Interested.* :)
Durandal
03-05-2004, 09:23 AM
You can't kiln-dry it? Sort of yes and sort of no.
We do not have a kiln (though I may make a crude one in the future). We do use our barns to store them in after cutting, which is close. Certainly not perfect, but they work.
So yeah, it takes a while. Even kiln drying takes a while.
Durandal
03-05-2004, 09:24 AM
Yes, yes it is.... almost as nice as yours.... ;)
Ummm.... :|
Was I drunk when I showed you? ;)
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 09:25 AM
Yes it does, but probably less time than it would take to let it dry naturally. And even then, I don't think the wood would really be dried all the way through, but I don't know all that much about wood and logging. I have to ask a friend of mine who used to be a logger when I want to know something particular.
farmgirl
03-05-2004, 09:36 AM
Yes, yes it is.... almost as nice as yours.... ;)
Ummm.... :|
Was I drunk when I showed you? ;)
How quickly they forget.... hellllloooooo Barbados??? ;)
Ichhabe
03-05-2004, 09:57 AM
Yes it does, but probably less time than it would take to let it dry naturally. And even then, I don't think the wood would really be dried all the way through, but I don't know all that much about wood and logging. I have to ask a friend of mine who used to be a logger when I want to know something particular.
But you do know a hell of a lot more about drying wood than I do.
Maybe it is because I come from this town:
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/3/15/janove/07v%20the%20senter%20of%20hammerfest.jpg
California Joe
03-05-2004, 03:59 PM
You can't kiln-dry it? Sort of yes and sort of no.
We do not have a kiln (though I may make a crude one in the future). We do use our barns to store them in after cutting, which is close. Certainly not perfect, but they work.
So yeah, it takes a while. Even kiln drying takes a while.
THANKS PAL! Drying wood for gunstocks takes a long time because the wood has to equalize the moisture levels to between 8 and 11 % depending on where you live. It's vital that there be no cracks of any kind or the wood can easily split, especially in the wrist area of longrifles. Most "kilns" that I've seen gunstockers use are basically a big box with slats for the stock blanks to lay on and a lightbulb and a small fan to just circulate the air.
Trigger
03-05-2004, 04:13 PM
California Joe is smart an' stuff. :D
California Joe
03-05-2004, 04:17 PM
Notice how I avoided all the salacious referrences to showing farmgirl my wood? I'm all classy and ****.
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 06:17 PM
Yes it does, but probably less time than it would take to let it dry naturally. And even then, I don't think the wood would really be dried all the way through, but I don't know all that much about wood and logging. I have to ask a friend of mine who used to be a logger when I want to know something particular.
But you do know a hell of a lot more about drying wood than I do.
Logging and its related trades aren't my forte. However, if you need somebody to help put up wall sections, hang vinyl siding, drive nails, or tack up OSB, I'm your gal.
I'm a pretty good hand at hauling two-by-fours around too.
woot
California Joe
03-05-2004, 07:05 PM
Are you hitting on me again?
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Should I be?
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:13 PM
Yes it does, but probably less time than it would take to let it dry naturally. And even then, I don't think the wood would really be dried all the way through, but I don't know all that much about wood and logging. I have to ask a friend of mine who used to be a logger when I want to know something particular.
Yeah, a kiln will dry the wood much more quickly. You also want to avoid warping it...which happens when it dries quickly in some areas and not so quickly in others.
When I quarter cut the sections for gun stocks I will actually wax the ends to avoid rapid moisture loss...avoiding warping and spliting (somthing else that happens when moisture leaves the wood).
Its all a pain the @ss, but the final product is definately worth the hassle.
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 08:15 PM
Yeah, a kiln will dry the wood much more quickly. You also want to avoid warping it...which happens when it dries quickly in some areas and not so quickly in others.
When I quarter cut the sections for gun stocks I will actually wax the ends to avoid rapid moisture loss...avoiding warping and spliting (somthing else that happens when moisture leaves the wood).
Its all a pain the @ss, but the final product is definately worth the hassle.
I'll have to remember that... I don't know much about wood, but I enjoy working with it when I can.
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:16 PM
How quickly they forget.... hellllloooooo Barbados??? ;)
Come on now, you know I wasn't sober for any of that. I only remember streakig across the lobby at 10 Am after having a 6 Bloody Mary breakfast.
Then there was that time I mistook Joe for you...
*shudder*
:D
ahh the innocence of youth,maine finn :lol:
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:20 PM
Should I be?
Why not. He has all his teeth and is funny as hell. Go for it.
Don't you two live only two States away? Small States at that...
p-)
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 08:22 PM
ahh the innocence of youth,maine finn :lol:
Isn't it great?
woot
*giggles*
By the way, I'm still happily a virgin.
Still waiting for a guy to really interest me.
I think I'll be waiting a long time. I'm picky.
:D
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:25 PM
I'll have to remember that... I don't know much about wood, but I enjoy working with it when I can.
I'll umm avoid the smartass reply. :D
Soooo....
Its more fun than I ever thought. I am just starting myself. Last year I was making my own fence boards. This year, Oak Cabinets and gun stocks.
I just ordered a SWEET Japanese wood working set so I can start working on grip designs and textures...
Of course, I have to get my gunsmith room up and running first....I am seriously dragging @ss on this project. We had a sudden burst of good weather...
http://homepage.mac.com/thesw0rdofroland/.Pictures/GunSmithRoom/gunsmithroom.jpg
California Joe
03-05-2004, 08:29 PM
Nice joint my friend. I have gradually put together a lot of tools. Sort of like this forum. My garage is too cold or too hot to work in most of the time.
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 08:30 PM
I think pine is good for construction - it's what we used for studs in the building I helped build last year. Good stuff. I wish they would lay out plans for another building, that was fun!
:P
I like working with my hands that way... and it shows. I had blisters from using a hammer. (I was more aggressive at pounding nails than some of the guys, go figure!)
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:48 PM
Nice joint my friend. I have gradually put together a lot of tools. Sort of like this forum. My garage is too cold or too hot to work in most of the time.
I need to get some sort of ventilation set up. It is supper dry and cliamte controlled. I have a leak free basement, even though it was built in 1886. I am planning on doing reloading here as well not too sure how I am going to set it all up.
Still collecting tools, and probably will be till I die. Thankfully, having checked out some prices recently, most are hand me downs.
Be it barrel light or miter saw....tools rock.
Durandal
03-05-2004, 08:51 PM
I think pine is good for construction - it's what we used for studs in the building I helped build last year. Good stuff. I wish they would lay out plans for another building, that was fun!
Pine is inexpensive soft wood sort of like the Ford Escort of lunmber. Perfect for the job but little style. The hardwood is where you get pricey and stylish with good grain and strength.
Pine is far easier to grow than hardwoods as well...
The walnut sections that are int he pic are probably 80 to 100 years old.
The pine you use for studs is probably 15 or 20 years old...
Wood is cool...
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 08:57 PM
Probably. Like I said, I don't know all that much about wood... but I'm always looking to learn more about stuff that interests me...
memphiz
03-05-2004, 08:59 PM
i like to biuld things to, last year i biult my dad sweet workbench, but now we have to leave it cause we're moving, but you know whats funner that building, is breaking stuff
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 09:00 PM
Definitely... it's easier, too.
woot
California Joe
03-05-2004, 09:01 PM
There are a lot of craftsmen up there Maine coon girl. Lots of old hardwoods, Tiger stripe Maple and Walnut. Whole different set of skills than framing out a basement.
Maine Finn
03-05-2004, 09:06 PM
I have no doubt of that... I know one or two woodworkers and ex-loggers... they're unbelievably good at what they do. I wish I was that skilled at what I do.
Who framed a basement? *looks back at earlier posts*
Durandal
03-23-2004, 11:34 PM
Next step completed...(two weeks ago actually)
Here are some pictures...
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This is the one I selected or Joe...
http://homepage.mac.com/thesw0rdofroland/.Pictures/misc/5.jpg
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8 sections of raw boards large enough for Joe's dimensions...
10 sections double the length of Joes original specs. Which equals a bare minmum of 27 large stocks are over a hundred modern multi piece stocks...
Now what to do with them. :)
California Joe
03-24-2004, 03:59 PM
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a beautiful piece of walnut pal. That's like a farmgirl's back quality piece. ;)
May have to build a fine caplock target rifle with a false muzzle and everything out of a piece of wood like that.
Does it burn well in a fireplace? ;)
Durandal
03-24-2004, 07:07 PM
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a beautiful piece of walnut pal. That's like a farmgirl's back quality piece. ;)
I am glad you like it man...I even planed it down a bit so the surface was all smooth.
and yes it is farmgirl's back quality...smooth and sexy...;)
May have to build a fine caplock target rifle with a false muzzle and everything out of a piece of wood like that.
What ever you make out of it...make it sexy! The smaller sections are currently running 9" x 4" x 79" so even after drying you might have a little extra to play with.
You should see the scraps I have that I am going to make 1911 grips out of...super sweet.
As far as getting it to you...I might be in Fairfax County, Viriginia in the summer. I could drop it off on my way in...
Durandal
03-24-2004, 07:10 PM
Does it burn well in a fireplace? ;)
*snort*
The photos I posted I am estimating to be well over a 1000.00 USD in raw Walnut...maybe more. It goes no where near the fire...
The scraps though...
Walnut is a hard wood. All hardwoods are fantastic for the fireplace or boilers...campfires, so long as its dry. Walnut smells fantastic when you burn it...almost like sweet grass.
California Joe
03-24-2004, 07:13 PM
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a beautiful piece of walnut pal. That's like a farmgirl's back quality piece. ;)
I am glad you like it man...I even planed it down a bit so the surface was all smooth.
and yes it is farmgirl's back quality...smooth and sexy...;)
May have to build a fine caplock target rifle with a false muzzle and everything out of a piece of wood like that.
What ever you make out of it...make it sexy! The smaller sections are currently running 9" x 4" x 79" so even after drying you might have a little extra to play with.
You should see the scraps I have that I am going to make 1911 grips out of...super sweet.
As far as getting it to you...I might be in Fairfax County, Viriginia in the summer. I could drop it off on my way in...
That'd be cool as hell. I'm only about an hour from Fairfax. 20 miles from Fredericksburg. Beer's on me. That piece would be more than large enough. You know the types of rifles I'm talking about? Like the kind they used to shoot at Creedmore at 1000 yards. Heavy barrel, beautiful wood. That would be sweet.
farmgirl
03-24-2004, 07:31 PM
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a beautiful piece of walnut pal. That's like a farmgirl's back quality piece. ;)
I am glad you like it man...I even planed it down a bit so the surface was all smooth.
and yes it is farmgirl's back quality...smooth and sexy...;)
May have to build a fine caplock target rifle with a false muzzle and everything out of a piece of wood like that.
What ever you make out of it...make it sexy! The smaller sections are currently running 9" x 4" x 79" so even after drying you might have a little extra to play with.
You should see the scraps I have that I am going to make 1911 grips out of...super sweet.
As far as getting it to you...I might be in Fairfax County, Viriginia in the summer. I could drop it off on my way in...
:oops: you boys are too kind ;)
you gonna name that baby after me, Joe? ;)
California Joe
03-24-2004, 07:34 PM
Yes, yes I will. Davey Crockett had Betsy. I shall have you.
You know what I meant. ;)
farmgirl
03-24-2004, 07:36 PM
yes... I know exactly what you meant.
two words..... permission slip p-)
California Joe
03-24-2004, 07:43 PM
"I'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those damned meddling kids..."
Durandal
03-24-2004, 09:05 PM
*meddle*
*meddle*
*meddle*
farmgirl
03-24-2004, 09:06 PM
*meddle*
*meddle*
*meddle*
Joe says I can come visit him this summer too.... I told him I'd just ride along with you..... k???? ;)
Durandal
03-24-2004, 09:14 PM
Joe says I can come visit him this summer too.... I told him I'd just ride along with you..... k???? ;)
;)
k...
Of course, after I drop of Joe's gunstock, I am heading directly to Cape Hatteras to get some beach time.
:P
farmgirl
03-24-2004, 09:19 PM
Joe says I can come visit him this summer too.... I told him I'd just ride along with you..... k???? ;)
;)
k...
Of course, after I drop of Joe's gunstock, I am heading directly to Cape Hatteras to get some beach time.
:P
works for me.... you can be my oil boy..... ;)
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