Ashura /Iraq,Kuwait,Pakistan/ Lot of blood but noone is dead

[Marmot1]

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[George W. Bush]

I hate the smell of blood. That holiday would drive me nuts..

[Uninen]

:cantbeli: Ive seen this "ritual" on video before.. this is some kind of "suffering fest" right? Just nuts.. btw, many of them do die.. "accidentaly" but still.. :| Due the blood loss etc..

[Marmot1]

:cantbeli: Ive seen this "ritual" on video before.. this is some kind of "suffering fest" right? Just nuts.. btw, many of them do die.. "accidentaly" but still.. :| Due the blood loss etc..

Yeah suffering fest they are suffering becouse when their holly man Husain (not this from the hole) died ca 680 they dodn't help him and now this holliday is to commemorate this and express their sorry for that.

Well christians also have something simmilar crucifications of ppl on philipines? where they allow to be crucified for couple of hours tu suffer like a Jesus, in every religion there are ppl who get it to serious..

[Tengu]

:cantbeli: I have seen this **** before. No wonder the UN saiz knowlegde is leaving the middle east :bash: .

[Macs.]

How can someone do something dumb like this just for the religion ?

Nuts.

[sergey31]

They do die..
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The dumbest religion ever, No. Christians don't kill themselves and it does not say so in the Bible to what some moran are doing in the Philipines.....
No wonder they are behind in technology and lifestyle, Demon posses'd.

[Steve Andrews]

feeling............ dizzy....................

[sergey31]

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[George W. Bush]

There's no need to insult Islam, the religion of peace.

[REMOV]

Marmot1 could you tell me, what is a connection between such pictures and military topics? Gimme only one. You know if isn't any why you posted such pictures there? Just because you find it?!

You know, I read this forum just because here I can find MILITARY PHOTOS, when I would like to looking for religious rituals pictures I'll find them at another forum. Your next photos will be the Way of the Cross, the pilgimage to the Mekka or something similar?

Try to think twice or more BEFORE you posted next time such off topic or even off forum pictures.

[Marmot1]

Marmot1 could you tell me, what is a connection between such pictures and military topics? Gimme only one. You know if isn't any why you posted such pictures there? Just because you find it?!

You know, I read this forum just because here I can find MILITARY PHOTOS, when I would like to looking for religious rituals pictures I'll find them at another forum. Your next photos will be the Way of the Cross, the pilgimage to the Mekka or something similar?

Try to think twice or more BEFORE you posted next time such off topic or even off forum pictures.

Yes you are right wrong ccategory sgould be of topic... can someone (mod) transfer it?

Sergiey
http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie_irak/0120/gal_0120_0039.jpg
on this photo there is inscenization of Husain death they are actors...

[Herrmannek]

Marmot1 could you tell me, what is a connection between such pictures and military topics? Gimme only one. You know if isn't any why you posted such pictures there? Just because you find it?!

You know, I read this forum just because here I can find MILITARY PHOTOS, when I would like to looking for religious rituals pictures I'll find them at another forum. Your next photos will be the Way of the Cross, the pilgimage to the Mekka or something similar?

Try to think twice or more BEFORE you posted next time such off topic or even off forum pictures.

http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie_irak/0120/gal_0120_0006.jpg ;)

[Dalleer]

This is one weird "religious party" I have to say...

[Uncle Sam]

Yeah suffering fest they are suffering becouse when their holly man Husain (not this from the hole) died ca 680 they dodn't help him and now this holliday is to commemorate this and express their sorry for that.

Couldn't they have just said "Sorry" a long time ago, and move on... ;)

[Ayura]

Dont ask why, but I find that I have respect for them in way. Can't really explain it.

Anyways, weird pics, and definately not to be posted here.

[Argyll]

How can someone do something dumb like this just for the religion ?

Nuts.

How can someone so dumb make a comment about a religion he knows fok all about!

Is it any worse than the practice of female circumcission in certain countries?

[sergey31]

I did read quite a few books on Islam.....
The religion of violence, it was founded about 1,600 years ago and it was founded on the way those tribes lived back then.. The way of the sword.

The Koran is full of cotridictions and examples on how to stalk, ambush and kill Christians and Jews (enemy - Infadels)

Not for modern civilized world.

[Argyll]

I did read quite a few books on Islam.....
The religion of violence, it was founded about 1,600 years ago and it was founded on the way those tribes lived back then.. The way of the sword.

The Koran is full of cotridictions and examples on how to stalk, ambush and kill Christians and Jews (enemy - Infadels)

Not for modern civilized world.

The bible is also full of contradictions

[sergey31]

Show me one in particular......

[mocking_loudly_died]

Ouch.

I feel better now being decadent western pig - less pain more burgers.

[usa320]

I try to be tolerant of other religions and understanding, and i can understand most of Islamic principles- and i understand WHY tehy do this, as in the reasoning behind it, but i dont think they should.

[Haiw]

Gosh... I thought those fanatic Christians crusifying themself where the only ones who thought pain is the way to show you're a believer. Guess I was wrong.

Suckers.

[sergey31]

Yes. If a religion does not promote killings and violance and it does not support world wide terrorism then I have nothing to say against it.

Being a TRUE Muslim is to follow that what is written in The Koran, and what is written is not so nice. MOST so called peceful Muslims do not follow The koran to the truth, therefore they are worst in the eyes of the true Muslims then you and I.

[Argyll]

Bloody hell your asking a non believer to provide quotes from the Bible?

http://storm.prohosting.com/dannywin/inerrant-bible.html

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html


Make no friendships with an angry man/Love thy neighbour ;)


Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth - for his love is more delightful then wine./Not in california!!! ;)

The truth shall make you free./Ask Bill clinton if he felt free after being impeached?

[California Joe]

Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth - for his love is more delightful then wine./Not in california!!! ;)



Are you talking about me again?

[sergey31]

"Make no friendships with an angry man/Love thy neighbour"

1. Angry man was written by King Solomon, it is not considered to be a word of God! He wrote many other things and THIS has nothing to do with Christianity. Infact there are many other books in Israel that were no put in the Bible because they are not word of god and do not RALATE to the Chrisianity.
2. Love thy Neighbor was said by Jesus Christ which is A NEW TESTAMENT and NEW TESTAMENT overrides rulles which Jews had to fillow in the old testament.

"Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth - for his love is more delightful then wine./Not in california!!!"

Not now but it was a cultural thing back then and it has nothing to do with anythig.

"The truth shall make you free./Ask Bill clinton if he felt free after being impeached?"

If he was honest it would have AND MANY more people would have had more respect for him...... Because he lied, he made a fool of himself and the truth came out anyway.

It's funny and stupid when people try to host a website about something they don't understand.... You have to know all of the Bilble to know what it's all about and that reference site is Complete nonsense.

Show me one.... Contridiction.... So, far that was nothing.

[Argyll]

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html


So these are not contradictions then?If not what are they cause they look like contradictions to me

Just exactly which Bible are you refering to?The Jewish one or the Christan Bible ?which then shows a Contradiction right away!!!

[California Joe]

Sure ignore the fact you made a drunken pass at me.

[Argyll]

:D Geis a brek!! I'm fussy

[Argyll]

http://members.aol.com/bbu84/biblicalstupidity/bible.htm

[California Joe]

:|

[sergey31]

Those site are posted by Atheists..... O.K..... I can post anything I want against anything, even them.

Once again.... The Bible has two parts Old then a NEW Testament.
The Old testament was written by many people over many years and there is much to say about it, It is mainly history of and for the Jewish people and The New Testament is 85% teaching and a story of Jesus Christ. His whole mission is to override the teaching of the Old Testament because they were so hard to follow and included only Jewish people. Now, Christiany is for all and anyone. That was the whole point of The New Testament.
Many people including the one who host those web sites do no understand anything about it and they already have a closed mind toward the Bible from the biggining.

Origianl my point: Where does is teach in Christianity to sloghter and kill other people if they dont convert to the religion?????
What Catholics did durring the dark ages has nothing to do with the Bible and it was ALL on their own, so do not even include them in Christianity denomination's.

[anonymous individual]

Those site are posted by Atheists..... O.K..... I can post anything I want against anything, even them.

Once again.... The Bible has two parts Old then a NEW Testament.
The Old testament was written by many people over many years and there is much to say about it, It is mainly history of and for the Jewish people and The New Testament is 85% teaching and a story of Jesus Christ. His whole mission is to override the teaching of the Old Testament because they were so hard to follow and included only Jewish people. Now, Christiany is for all and anyone. That was the whole point of The New Testament.
Many people including the one who host those web sites do no understand anything about it and they already have a closed mind toward the Bible from the biggining.

Origianl my point: Where does is teach in Christianity to sloghter and kill other people if they dont convert to the religion?????
What Catholics did durring the dark ages has nothing to do with the Bible and it was ALL on their own, so do not even include them in Christianity denomination's.

Are you interested in religious stuff?

BTW I was just wondering...

[sergey31]

My major in school is Pchychology and it's one of the things we have to learn/ study/ research.
I belive in the Bible(90%) and Christianity but I'm not in organized religion myself.... Too many people make it to appeal their interests and needs, and thus make it not what it is or suppose to do.

[Argyll]

Those site are posted by Atheists..... O.K..... I can post anything I want against anything, even them.

Once again.... The Bible has two parts Old then a NEW Testament.
The Old testament was written by many people over many years and there is much to say about it, It is mainly history of and for the Jewish people and The New Testament is 85% teaching and a story of Jesus Christ. His whole mission is to override the teaching of the Old Testament because they were so hard to follow and included only Jewish people. Now, Christiany is for all and anyone. That was the whole point of The New Testament.
Many people including the one who host those web sites do no understand anything about it and they already have a closed mind toward the Bible from the biggining.

Origianl my point: Where does is teach in Christianity to sloghter and kill other people if they dont convert to the religion?????
What Catholics did durring the dark ages has nothing to do with the Bible and it was ALL on their own, so do not even include them in Christianity denomination's.


Either those were quotes from the Bible or not,which is it to be?
2ndly this topic was NOT about the Muslim Faith but this practice of cutting yourself.......... :bash:

[sergey31]

You still don't get it.
They do not cotridict..... You have to understand the meaning of it and in which PART is is written and by who....
Bible was written by many people and The Koran was by only Muhamed.
You see, If I withness an even and someone else saw that even as well, we both can write things about but will will have slight variations of what happen.....
Yes, that WAS my reply to this topic..... Dumb and stupid religion makes people practice dumb and stupid rituals......

[Haiw]

Well like I said above; there's plenty of Christians crusifying themselves, so...Christianity is dumb and stupid as well?

[Argyll]

You still don't get it.
They do not cotridict..... You have to understand the meaning of it and in which PART is is written and by who....
Bible was written by many people and The Koran was by only Muhamed.
You see, If I withness an even and someone else saw that even as well, we both can write things about but will will have slight variations of what happen.....
Yes, that WAS my reply to this topic..... Dumb and stupid religion makes people practice dumb and stupid rituals......

Would you class circumcision as a dumb ritual then?

I obviously don't get it as to me the Bible is the Bible,which includes new and Old testament which ever one there are contradictions clearly there,whether they're from the New or Old it still falls under the Term BIBLE............which part of" the BIBLE" is contradictive do you not get?
What it looks like is that you only accept what YOU believe in ,but dismiss the scores of contradictions I linked to.

No singular person wrote the Bible,it is a gathering of works from scores of different people and when you have multiple authors you'll have multiple contradictions!!

[sergey31]

No, I would not say it dumb.... It actually serves a very good hygene purpose, talk to your doctor or medical institution and they explain it better. And I did not have it done on me. If I was born in U.S then maybe.

Yes, That is exactly my point....... New Testament has 4 versions about Jesus, each version was written by one (1) deciple...(4 total)
O.K. When an event or anything happens each saw that event BUT LIKE I MENTION people see things a bit different, we are not computers and we have diferent views on events and things.... How dificult is this to understand? If I see a car wreck and you see it at the same time, you might notice something that I did not, or anything else for that matter.

By contradiction's I mean this, In The Koran in the biggining it says to make peace with others but in the later part it says to kill those (the same ) people...... This is EXTREAM cotradiction and EVIL at that.

Does it say anywhere in the BIBLE and does it command US to kill others.
Do you understand where I'm going with this?

And once again..... The Old testament was FOR JEWS to follow and it's their history... THE NEW TESTAMENT is suppose to OVERRULLE the hard and dificult ways of teachings of the old.... . But YOU have to understand it so it can make any sense to you or any other closed minded aTHEIST.

[786mine]

I did read quite a few books on Islam.....
The religion of violence, it was founded about 1,600 years ago and it was founded on the way those tribes lived back then.. The way of the sword.

The Koran is full of cotridictions and examples on how to stalk, ambush and kill Christians and Jews (enemy - Infadels)

Not for modern civilized world.

Let me educate you, its your choice to remain ignorant and make comments like above and make an ass out of yourself or you can make meaningfull comments and not spread hate.

Ashura, is not an Islamic fesitval. It's celebrated by the ****'te Muslims. Hussain, who was the nephew of Prophet Muhammad PBUH was travelling to spread the word of Islam. But Yazid, the king of Persia at that time did not want him to do that. So in Karballa, Iraq Hussain's convoy was surrounded and the women and children were killed mercilessly. The men were butchered. And Hussain was cut up while he was alive. The ****'te which follow a slightly different version of mainstream Islam, Hussain was killed while trying to bring Islam to them. So to understand the pain he had gone through, they do this.