GRAPHIC!!! Karbala suicide atack GRAPHIC!!!

[Marmot1]

Karbala after suicide atack... Very bloody and many dead ppl. PLEASE RESPECT THEM AND SHUT UP IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID.

if you are sensitive do not watch!!! photos are deep below... I decided to do this so you can make a step back if you don't want to see this.












































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[Tengu]

All this bloodshed.....................and for what??

[George W. Bush]

Cold-blooded killers.

[REMOV]

Marmot1, this is MilitaryPhotos.net not ******.com (which is a place for such blood pictures for the ones who loves them)! Tell me what is a reason to put here such photos?! You have definitley a bad taste...

[Ballistic]

I think it's been stated before that graphic images are to be LINKED, not posted. What is your reason for posting them here ? Take them down and LINK instead of post directly.

[HELEX]

Well, many Iraqis believe the Coalition Troops are responsible.

We know thats not the case, but the bombings were successful in that manner...... :|

[scoone]

I don't Know what they are seeking with all this blood and pain. I read that some groups are trying to reach a civil confrontation which may lead to a civil war.
Poor people :(

[Marmot1]

Marmot1, this is MilitaryPhotos.net not ******.com (which is a place for such blood pictures for the ones who loves them)! Tell me what is a reason to put here such photos?! You have definitley a bad taste...

Well war has always two sides: the one who pull the triger and the one who get hit... I know that you prefer seeing the one who pulls the trigger since it is nice to see new gun,cammo,gear,etc. But you must remember that there is also other side- victims. I posted this to give all of you reflections about the war... Sorry it may look funny when you are in tank or in a plane and press a button to fire shell/rocket to hit a target 5km away and see a nice explosion, but remember there are always LIVE ppl on the other side. Pain & blood is inseparable connected with war like is a canon or tank.

[Argyll]

Marmot you're in breach of forum rule 2.5

Fix this ASAP or I'll delete the post

2.5. Don't direct post gory or graphic images. If you must post such things, only provide a regular link with a large warning as to what to expect when someone clicks on it. Users that continue to post such images after a warning will be banned.

[shrek]

**LISTEN UP**

He gave us ample warning that these images were graphic and by spacing them the way he did gave us another safety catch to keep from seeing them if we truly didn't want to. I think a lot of you just want someone to bash and reason to bash them. Putting a link and calling it "Karbala bombing" would have only made the curious go look and then end up with the pictures right in front of their faces.

If you don't like the pics don't look. I think a small percentage of you (you know who you are) like all this military hardware and high speed gear but never want to accept that it's all produced with one purpose in mind, and it ain't pretty! This carnage was caused by a suicide bombing. However, I and some others that frequent this site have seen a lot worse caused by the very hardware we covet in the pictures posted here.
De O L

[Ballistic]

Thats not the point Marmot. There are people that visit this site that are perhaps not of the age that such images should be viewable. I dont particular enjoy seeing flesh and blood splattered over a pavement, no matter what the cause.

Yes war has two sides, and some people just dont get that. Plastering images of blood soaked and limbless victims is not going to change anything except make people annoyed. Post the links, but dont post the images, a person can get the same effect by clicking on the link, and those that dont wish to see the images dont have to be subject to them.

Use your noggin. I'm sure you have one.

[Argyll]

Just to clarify somethings here,War is Hell,it's nothing like Holywood,the rules are there to make sure that it does not open up an unneccesary can of worms,by posting tit for tat pics.

The idea was harmless enough and yes the warnings were there,and I doubt the intentions were anyless than honourable......however the rules must be followed,if a person wishes to view the pics he can do so in Privacy,All I'm doing here is to diffuse a situation that has potential to turn nasty

[OnTheRocks]

I think that people in this forum that said things like "lets kick north koreas butt, but first stop Iran!! REVENGE!!!" should watch these pictures to qualm their gung-ho attitude a bit...this is horribe :(

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Horrible pictures - shows the shocking reality of violence. Let this remind us of what the war on terror is all about. Many feel it's become nothing more than a catch phrase - but this shows that there are still those who have no problem intentionally slaughtering innocents.

My only hope is that the Iraqi people can see past all the posturing & hold those who actually did this responsible. Doing otherwise will only serve the will of the people who did this.

[HumanShield]

Well war has always two sides: the one who pull the triger and the one who get hit... I know that you prefer seeing the one who pulls the trigger since it is nice to see new gun,cammo,gear,etc. But you must remember that there is also other side- victims. I posted this to give all of you reflections about the war... Sorry it may look funny when you are in tank or in a plane and press a button to fire shell/rocket to hit a target 5km away and see a nice explosion, but remember there are always LIVE ppl on the other side. Pain & blood is inseparable connected with war like is a canon or tank.

Very well put. Everyone should see this we (Americans) are living in this little bubble, where we try to protect everyone from what really happens in war. Not the pictures of a nice MP handing out a MRE to a kid.

[Tengu]

I think that people in this forum that said things like "lets kick north koreas butt, but first stop Iran!! REVENGE!!!" should watch these pictures to qualm their gung-ho attitude a bit...this is horribe :(I wouldn't let a few nutjobs get in the way of that.

[George W. Bush]

The Shias are under control of Shia leaders. If they get hit they move closer to us. An unintended consequence from this unfortunate senseless act of violence.

[One?]

The Shias are under control of Shia leaders. If they get hit they move closer to us. An unintended consequence from this unfortunate senseless act of violence.

mm no thats not true. And to prove that shia blamed the US for the attacks they didn't get closer to you.

[sierraone]

As far as I know the Shias rejected the protection of the US forces when it was offered to them for this particular event because:
a. they don't want to acknowledge them as colaborrating with the infidel occupiers and
b. would invite attacks on them, which in the end they got attacked anyway

[DPGLAW]

I don't see why everyone is whining like babies about this. There was a very visible warning as to the content of this thread and in addition he was right, that is a side to war we don't see foten and forget very often.

[Argyll]

I don't see why everyone is whining like babies about this. There was a very visible warning as to the content of this thread and in addition he was right, that is a side to war we don't see foten and forget very often.

read the forum rules please

[Sayeret]

Quoted From Ballistic


Thats not the point Marmot. There are people that visit this site that are perhaps not of the age that such images should be viewable. I dont particular enjoy seeing flesh and blood splattered over a pavement, no matter what the cause.

If people are too young too see such things than they shouldn't go to this thread. Theres only so much you can do to stop a child from seeing violence. Whats to stop them from going to orgish.com or rotten.com, nothing. This site is about war and the military, people die in war you need to face it. This isn't a site for children if it was then half the stuff said and shown on this site wouldn't be allowed.

REMOV wrote:


Marmot1, this is MilitaryPhotos.net not ******.com (which is a place for such blood pictures for the ones who loves them)! Tell me what is a reason to put here such photos?! You have definitley a bad taste...

Marmot1 is denouncing the violence exactly opposite to what orgish.com does. If your going to learn about war then stop acting like it people aern't hurt in it and that if we see a image of it than the poster of the image must be a sick person. If seeing these pictures bothers you then you shouldn't look at them, he gave a warning. So stop giving the guy such a hard time.


Karbala after suicide atack... Very bloody and many dead ppl. PLEASE RESPECT THEM AND SHUT UP IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID.

if you are sensitive do not watch!!! photos are deep below... I decided to do this so you can make a step back if you don't want to see this.

Marmot's first post about the pictures.

[Argyll]

Sayaret ...............look at the post above you

These are Hoods rules,and if members respect them then no one will have a problem will they?

These rules were placed as we had guys like Spier who was warned not to post directly images of the fallen,This site is not about posting graphic nature,it never was,but some thought it would be cool to do so,this I have to disagree with you is not the place to do so.
Hood has set the ground rules,it is his site and if you don't like it then I'd suggest if you want to see dead bodies then this is perhaps not the place to be.

Nobody has a problem with posting links to pics,as this leaves it entirely up to the individual to view them.

Imagine little 12 year old Bobby is browsing this forum quite the thing and he comes across the effects of a bomb and the carnage,and in walks his Mother do you think she'd be thrilled to see such graphic nature on display?........probably not,but providing links will allow 1 pic to open at a time,and if the viewer finds it disturbing he can chose not to open the rest,instead of having 10-15 images thrust into their faces!

Nobody especially me is acting heavy handed,or power mad here,I have personally never seen the need to post such images and made my feelings pretty clear on numerous occasions,but if the forum rules are being broken,it leads to insults flames,stupid wise ass comments,and downright stupidity........and there's no need for this to happen is there.

[anonymous individual]

All the pictures are not that graphic but they are all very sad. :(

[basket of soft kittens]

...R.I.P...

[AK-Lover]

What do you guys mean? :| He posted a link for each picture, it's not like the pics were right on the page! :|

[Argyll]

What do you guys mean? :| He posted a link for each picture, it's not like the pics were right on the page! :|


I edited them to links!

[AK-Lover]

Oh, shoulda' said so, sorry. :(

[Argyll]

As AI said they were not all graphical,but I edited them just to be on the safe side

[Marmot1]

Well maybe you are right with the links but I decided to warn not on every photo but on a whole thread because it was mostly graphic.
Orgish.com is not my favorite place and I do not enjoy such stuff I visited it only once and had feeling that ppl who run that place are retard.

And BTW can someone clarify when photo is clasified as Graphic??? when there is blood??? if yes how much 1 drop 1 glass 1 gallon? You know for some ppl broken bone without displacement might be graphic for someone only riped apart leg. For me it's hard to decide, since I see dead bodies and sections almost on dayly basis (study subject) but I understand that some ppl are more sensitive than me...

[Argyll]

Well maybe you are right with the links but I decided to warn not on every photo but on a whole thread becouse it was mostly graphic.
Orgish.com is not my favorite place and I do not enjoy such stuff I visited it only once and had feeling that ppl who run that place are retard.

And BTW can someone clarify when photo is clasified as Graphic??? when there is blood??? if yes how much 1 drop 1 glass 1 gallon? You know for some ppl broken bone without displacement might be graphic for someone only riped apart leg. For me it's hard to decide, since I see dead bodies and sections almost on dayly basis (study subject) but I understand that some ppl are more sensitive than me...

Ask hood to clarify as to what context is classed as Graphic in Nature.
I don't think it's the amount of blood,but rather the carnage,such as body parts,and bodies themselves.
I know your post was intended in the best possible way,but as you can remember the crap that went down about this sort of thing before,where people thought it would be great to post tit for tat photo's that in the end served no purpose,and showed no respect for the dead,Hood made it clear that he did not want his site plastered with Gory and graphic pics.

[hank]

Well - thanks for posting these - even if graphic it really hits home about how big a deal this was.

I heard a radio news report the other morning - can't rememebr if it was NPR or WNOX (which is usually CNN or FOX reports) - that to understand the importance of this to blowing up a bomb in St. Peter's sqaure in the Vatican during a Mass given by the Pope on Christmas day.

Man, that is a big deal in Catholicism - truly a horrible day fore sunni muslims and the world. Also really gives me a step back to think that Shiites would do this to another muslim group. That would be comnparable to protestan/catholic dispute - religion is a messy business.

hank

[Ichhabe]

I was about to start to cut and paste a lot of comments that has been said here. But I'm gonna let it be.
I just want to say that I have not looked at those pictures. I even avoided this thread untill to now due to the warning.
But after seeing it had grown to 2 pages I had a look to see what comments that had been posted.


As earlier stated: I have seen enough **** with my own green eyes. I do not want to trawl the Internet to look for more.
That was why I liked to be here from Day 1 when I first arrived here.
I could look at pictures of soldiers and equipment without having to sort out a lot of blood stained pictures.

One in this thread said that there were two sides of war. The one fireing, and the one that got hit.
That is so true. And I must say that I feel sorry for the soldier that do the fireing does'nt think about what the consequeance of his action is.
Luckilly I have never killed a person in my military service. But there have been some close calls. And every time I have given a thoroughlly(sp?) thought about what I was about to do.

I don't want to go to deep in to this cause it is very personal and private. But belive me; having to think and decide that you are about to kill another human was not easy to handle. Every time I had to fight with my self to do this, and except it.
If you don't understand me it is your loss.

[Ballistic]

...people die in war you need to face it. This isn't a site for children if it was then half the stuff said and shown on this site wouldn't be allowed.

Don't lecture me about the effects of war. I know very well that millions of people have sacrificed their lives during times of conflict. Having family members serve in almost every major conflict of the 20th century, I know what war can do to them. That still doesnt give Marmot the right to post graphic images on this site.

The internet does not discriminate, therefore any child can be subject to graphic material of whatever nature. Responsible people should do there most to keep children from seeing such images. They are not ready to see such violence, and any body who thinks differently has a mental deficiency.

Just my thoughts.

[SFontaine]

This is the sort of crap the US is fighting to stop.. Racist killings.

[wholagun]

Marmot im with ya. However you should've linked the pics as rules states. Beyond that I see nothing wrong, and i agree with showing other side of war.

All this bloodshed.....................and for what??

Freedom

[iflu]

Well. this is the WAR. there is a misleading by movies, games. People are tend to the romantic side of the war and forget the nature of it: being in a war means to kill somebody with liscence or be killed by somebody. Do you think that it is suit for young people under age **? No, I do not think so. War is just a business of killing while not some Military Equipment Expo 04. Do you think that killing is funny?(then why do u laugh?) No, I do not think so.

Yes, I play CS and DF. It is cool to make head shot. BUT it is not WAR! And I think it is right to educate them that war is not romantic. We just cant make people enjoy war, can we?

[sierraone]

Iflu while I agree with what you say, I don't think in this particular instance it is war. We are talking about terrorism which is cold-blooded murder. Because it has political reasons it doesn't mean it is a war.

[Marmot1]

Come on, and what is war??? It's extension of politics nothing morel nothing less - when political solution fail war begins, terrorism is similar, when you cannot reach your political goals using political presure, then you start using terrorism to archive political goals, of course there is criminal terror which is without political background but this is diferent story. In iraq terror is used to archive political goals just like on war.

[LeMat]

In our TV there was an interview with Iraq citizen. He told something like that: "When Saddam was our president we had graves in desert. Now we have graves on the streets."

[soldierandy]

Come on, and what is war??? It's extension of politics nothing morel nothing less - when political solution fail war begins, terrorism is similar, when you cannot reach your political goals using political presure, then you start using terrorism to archive political goals, of course there is criminal terror which is without political background but this is diferent story. In iraq terror is used to archive political goals just like on war.

So you agree or disagree with SierraOne? Is terrorism war, is it different, or 'just like in war'? For me Sierraone is right. Murder is murder.

[Marmot1]

Come on, and what is war??? It's extension of politics nothing morel nothing less - when political solution fail war begins, terrorism is similar, when you cannot reach your political goals using political presure, then you start using terrorism to archive political goals, of course there is criminal terror which is without political background but this is diferent story. In iraq terror is used to archive political goals just like on war.

So you agree or disagree with SierraOne? Is terrorism war, is it different, or 'just like in war'? For me Sierraone is right. Murder is murder.

Yes of course murder is murder but military action(war) and terrorist attack alway come when politics fail, war is little more civilized (if we can say that organized killing can be civilized) and terrorism is less civilized tool but a very good tool to archive political benefits, if you cannot afford to buy combat planes or tanks, also terrosrist atack main purpose is to attract media and make your cause more known to publicity. But now "media level" for succesful terrorist action is set up very high. 20 yeass ago simple bomb blown in the street was on newspaper's first page, 10 years ago you needed suicide attack to archive the same media attention and now you ned a plane crashing into buildnig to attract media. Now newspepers inform about suicide attack on 4th 5th page in small column so terrorists invent more and more sophisticated acts of terror. You know "SKY IS THE LIMIT" (or even not - after 9.11 even sky is not the limit....)

[iflu]

ok ! let me say sth about war and terrorism. war is a military action taken by one military party against another military party with certain political purpose. That is to say, both of the parties are equal as far as killing oppotunity is concerened: gun vs gun, ok. (of couse, they will also try to define the rules of killing, that is another issue). A by-product of war is the civilian casualty and this makes war easily being confused with terrorism. civilian here is the opposite to military, which usually being defined as un-armed party ( therefore POW is civilian). We can not judge an action war or terrorism ONLY BY THE FACT that (many) civlian are killed or injured. The difference between war and terrorism is the target! If it is a military action targeted on military objects, it is war even civilian casualty is heavy. If not, terrorism. Problem comes when the targets are political objects such as city-bombing or atom-bomb drops in WWII, it is really hard to say that this kind of action is pure military actions but of course is not terrorism because the purpose is to end the war ASAP. In this case, I would like to say it is MILITARY TERROR, which should be avoided. So back to this case in Iraq. WHO WERE THE TARGET? This would solve the problem I think.

[AA medic]

Gentlemen-

If I am not mistaken, we are in a WAR against
TERRORISM. Who is the enemy, who are the
civvies? We have become innured to violence
in this country by our televisions and our video
games, without truly understanding the consequences
of sending young men and women off to die. I was
a combat medic for 6 years in the Army. I saw MUCH
worse than this with my own eyes. I killed people
in much worse ways than this with my own two hands
(have you ever seen what a Claymore does to a platoon?).
Until the public, and the politicians who make these decisions,
truly understand the consequences of dropping "smart bombs,"
firing Hellfire rockets into cities, or simply pulling the trigger
on your M60, this type of thing will continue. These pictures
should be mandatory viewing.

[Marmot1]

Gentlemen-

If I am not mistaken, we are in a WAR against
TERRORISM. Who is the enemy, who are the
civvies? We have become innured to violence
in this country by our televisions and our video
games, without truly understanding the consequences
of sending young men and women off to die. I was
a combat medic for 6 years in the Army. I saw MUCH
worse than this with my own eyes. I killed people
in much worse ways than this with my own two hands
(have you ever seen what a Claymore does to a platoon?).
Until the public, and the politicians who make these decisions,
truly understand the consequences of dropping "smart bombs,"
firing Hellfire rockets into cities, or simply pulling the trigger
on your M60, this type of thing will continue. These pictures
should be mandatory viewing.
Holly words...