Swedish Uranium May Have Gone to Syria

[UkrainianAmerican]

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/world/article.jhtml?articleID=744707


Large amounts of uranium may have gone missing from a nuclear technology company in Sweden. The American Central Intelligence Agency fears a worst-case scenario where the material has already fallen into terrorist hands, newspaper Expressen reports.

“The company (Ranstad Mineral) is a security risk and we have taken the matter to top level to get the Swedes to stop them,” a CIA spokesman told the Swedish newspaper.

The CIA operative claims to know that the little Swedish company has educated Syrian nuclear physicists in the treatment of uranium. He also has information that a Swedish consultancy has sold nuclear equipment to Syria that can be used in the treatment of radioactive material.

“If it transpires that radioactive or nuclear material has been sent on from Sweden to Syria then this is a very serious matter for Sweden,” the CIA source said.

After a meeting with the CIA operative Swedish authorities raided Ranstad Mineral several times and shut the company down on the grounds of deficient security.

“It was one of the worst things I have seen. The company has extremely serious deficiencies in its registration system,” said Carl Magnus Larsson, divisional leader of the Swedish Radiation Protection Authority after their inspection.


UPDATE: Here’s an AFP release in which the spokesman for the Swedish Nuclear Power Inspectorate tells us all to roll over and go back to sleep
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040303153804.x8rejg7a.html


while he was at it, he took a slap at the US and the CIA.



“We keep close tabs on this stuff. None of the uranium is missing,” said Anders Joerla, a spokesman for the Swedish Nuclear Power Inspectorate (SKI).

SKI has disclosed that the Swedish company Ranstad Minerals, which recycles nuclear waste into uranium, has shown some discrepancies in records on the amount of nuclear waste treated and the amount of uranium it has in store.

Since the 1990s, as much as 100 kilos (220 pounds) of the potentially bomb-making material is unaccounted for, Joerla said.

But he said such descrepencies were often due to calculation errors and there was nothing to indicate that the uranium had actually gone missing.

“When you produce uranium from nuclear waste, it’s a very complex process,” Joerla told AFP. “It’s very difficult to calculate how much uranium is actually in the nuclear products... If you overestimate how much uranium is in the products, records will show less uranium than expected.”

Reports in the Swedish press on Wednesday said the US Central Intelligence Agency feared that the uranium that remains unaccounted for may have fallen into “terrorist” hands.

A CIA agent quoted by the Swedish daily Expressen also charged that Ranstad Minerals was a “security risk”.

“We have acted at a high level to get the Swedes to stop the company in Ranstad,” the agent, whose name was not revealed, told the paper. “It is incredible that the the Swedish security police haven’t stopped (this) company.”

Joerla however insisted that SKI keeps all dealings with nuclear material under tight supervision.

“We don’t have much faith in the CIA,” he added. “They couldn’t find any (nuclear weapons) in Iraq, and they’re not going to find any missing uranium in Sweden.”



F*cking imbeciles. :bash:[/url]

[mustamato]

Bwahaha. Yeah right I say. :lol: Expressen is a typical tabloid newspaper that
probably makes up most of their news. Kind of Daily Mirror. Just look at their site:

http://www.expressen.se/

[Dalleer]

“If it transpires that radioactive or nuclear material has been sent on from Sweden to Syria then this is a very serious matter for Sweden,” the CIA source said.

I think Bush could squeeze a quick liberation campaign to Sweden, you know just a small one until Kerry takes over...

[Guttorm]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P

[UkrainianAmerican]

“If it transpires that radioactive or nuclear material has been sent on from Sweden to Syria then this is a very serious matter for Sweden,” the CIA source said.

I think Bush could squeeze a quick liberation campaign to Sweden, you know just a small one until Kerry takes over...
The only thing Kerry can take over is your ass.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Bwahaha. Yeah right I say. :lol: Expressen is a typical tabloid newspaper that
probably makes up most of their news. Kind of Daily Mirror. Just look at their site:

http://www.expressen.se/
I did not link to expressen.

[Dalleer]

“If it transpires that radioactive or nuclear material has been sent on from Sweden to Syria then this is a very serious matter for Sweden,” the CIA source said.

I think Bush could squeeze a quick liberation campaign to Sweden, you know just a small one until Kerry takes over...
The only thing Kerry can take over is your ass.

You'd wish.

[Ichhabe]

Hell, that uranium must be used somehow. ;)
And the Swedes are just in it for the money.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Hell, that uranium must be used somehow. ;)
And the Swedes are just in it for the money.
I say we add sweden to our list of terror-supporting states. :lol:

[Argyll]

These days it's easier to make a list of those who don't support terror!! :roll:

[UkrainianAmerican]

These days it's easier to make a list of those who don't support terror!! :roll:
Uhh.....no.

[Ichhabe]

Hell, that uranium must be used somehow. ;)
And the Swedes are just in it for the money.
I say we add sweden to our list of terror-supporting states. :lol:

First; if this is correct. It wasa company. Not the Swedish state that sold it.

Companies all over the world would sell to get a profit. Hell, they even would sell their grand ma's eyes if they could get away with that.
Even many American companies sell their soul to get a dime. Look on how many of the largest corporates that do business in the shadow over in Iran.

This, when it boils down was probably just a smoke alarm to fit in presidents Assad's bedroom.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Probably nothing more than piss poor accounting the sort of thing that happened to NUMEC in Apollo PA ,USA which was run by Zalman Shapiro who failed to carry out proper audits of enriched uranium processing I think they managed to find 100kg in 1982 when the plant was being decommissioned and smaller amounts after that none of which was on the books.

[Argyll]

These days it's easier to make a list of those who don't support terror!! :roll:
Uhh.....no.


I was being sarcastic!!

[Dalleer]

These days it's easier to make a list of those who don't support terror!! :roll:
Uhh.....no.


I was being sarcastic!!

You know, I was trying to be moderately "funny" as well, but I guess it's no reason to start educating other people about something they do not understand...

[Argyll]

Seems to me that people within this forum are going out of their ways to find some mud to sling at other countries who do not fall within their expectations and views ,with the sole intent of starting some kind of flame war!!

[mustamato]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/world/article.jhtml?articleID=744707

.no I see a norweigian conspiracy forming up here.

[usa320]

I guess this explains why the swedes were so hellbent on taking over America...
rofl

[SeanAshi]

2 things Syria should do
1. Come clean ;)
2. Get the hell out of Lebanon

[RomanS]

I guess this explains why the swedes were so hellbent on taking over America...
rofl
LOOOOOOOOOOL

[M1A2U2]

Kerrry has already lost. BTW he voted for the invasion..so all you anti war people who like kerry...check his record

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Kerrry has already lost. BTW he voted for the invasion..so all you anti war people who like kerry...check his recordOoops seems like your in the wrong topic M1A2U2, "Kerry"?

[Parzival]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot

[Thor]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot

Du är 16 år, kan inte skriva på engelska, kan inte skriva på svenska. Du är helt enkelt ett stort jävla irritationsobjekt. Vill du fortsätta bajsa ur dig omogna inlägg (tänker inte på just det här inlägget) så är det upp till dig men då blir du betraktad därefter också.

[Navy]

Vacon, ta nu inte detta som ett personangrepp; men försök att hålla ner "attityden" och barnsligheterna så blir du nog bättre behandlad. Observera att detta inlägg var det inget fel på.

Sluta göra reklam för en dålig svensk film o lägg ner det där med ssg. Här hänger många amerikanska småglin, bli inte en av dem!

Vänliga hälsningar
/
Navy

[Dalleer]

Hey, I can understand what these guys are saying...

My Swedish lessons haven't gone to total waste then.


Kerrry has already lost. BTW he voted for the invasion..so all you anti war people who like kerry...check his record

Hey, don't get all jumped up. Everything I said was a joke, I hope you understand it more than some of the people around here.

[Parzival]

Ja, Nu var jud etta inlägg menat som ett skämt. Ett svar på Guttorm inlägg. Jag kan visst skriva på engelska, Och ge mig fler "barnsliga" inlägg.

[Argyll]

English Please lads :D

[execrable]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
What was that you where saying, union something, I didn't catch it all. :D

[Ichhabe]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
What was that you where saying, union something, I didn't catch it all. :D

For you informatio, Norway ain't part of the EU.
But if we get back Jämtland, Herjedalen, parts of Göta län, Greenland, Færøyene, Shetland, 50% of Ireland ans some are in the UK, then we can talk. ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot
Peter the Great did rape your navy in the ass.

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot
Peter the Great did rape your navy in the ass.
Ah, he just took back some parts of the the old russian baltic coast(unopposed), which was taken from Russia 50 years or so earlier, but he managed to stop a complete invasion of Russia.
You could have found a better tzar.
Vacon was is wrong depending on what you conscider swedish national territory. Finland was conscidered a part of the national territory by some, is Scania a real national part of Sweden or Denmark or neither?

[fantassin]

France prefered to provide the King, it costs less...

[Parzival]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot
Peter the Great did rape your navy in the ass.
Yea, Even if Sweden were a great war-nation between 1600-1750 we never had a greta navy. Of course the russian was here, but they never scucced to invade us. :P As we never succede to Invade Moscow.
And Kalle, I Count the swedish nation how it is today. Finland, the baltic states, were just our Colonies or Provinces.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot
Peter the Great did rape your navy in the ass.
Yea, Even if Sweden were a great war-nation between 1600-1750 we never had a greta navy. Of course the russian was here, but they never scucced to invade us. :P As we never succede to Invade Moscow.
And Kalle, I Count the swedish nation how it is today. Finland, the baltic states, were just our Colonies or Provinces.
Hint: when you see a post containig the words rape and ass in one sentence, chances are it was sarcastic and needs not to be proven wrong by detailed historical discussions.
;)

[Tributal]

Yea, Even if Sweden were a great war-nation between 1600-1750 we never had a greta navy. Of course the russian was here, but they never scucced to invade us. :P As we never succede to Invade Moscow.Aside from France, under the rule of Napoleon, Sweden is the nation that was the closest to take Moscow (the Germans during WWII didn't get as far into Russia)- so we might not have taken the capitol, but we certainly invaded them. Just as they later invaded us.
If memory serves me right the Russian army invaded Sweden and held territory as far south as Boden while also invading us in the south with their navy. So, you might wanna check up on your history there.


And Kalle, I Count the swedish nation how it is today. Finland, the baltic states, were just our Colonies or Provinces.Finland was more than a colony or province, as opposed to Skåne that was Danish Finland was Swedish even by the Finns at the time. So, you might want to read up on your history there too.

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.

[Tributal]

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen! Doesn't this also mean that you have to surrender your sovereign rule back to Denmark since Jamtland, Herjedalen, and Norway all belonged to Denmark at the time? ;)

Denmark held Norway for most of it's (Norway's) history, then Sweden finally managed to take Norway from Denmark, only to slowly let it go. First step was that they allowed the Norwegians to rule themselves, then we formed the Swedish-Norwegian Union at the end of the 19th century, which ended with Norway becoming a completely sovereign country in the early 20th century.

Here's another bit of trivia for you - when Sweden and Norway was in union with each other there was a lot of sentiment in Sweden (can't speak for Norway - I think you guys were more interested in just being free) to form one big country and/or union out of the Nordic countries - for you non-Nordic readers that would be Iceland Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland. This can be seen in the Swedish national anthem "Du Gamla Du Fria" (You Old - You Free) that does mention Sweden once but speaks of Nord & Norden (the Nordic countries) a total of five times.

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

I KNEW IT!
Those damn swedes!
Let's invade!

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen!

:D :P
Good luck ;)
No one has never succed to invade Sweden :P
Doesn't matter if it USA , France or Norway woot
Peter the Great did rape your navy in the ass.
Yea, Even if Sweden were a great war-nation between 1600-1750 we never had a greta navy. Of course the russian was here, but they never scucced to invade us. :P As we never succede to Invade Moscow.
And Kalle, I Count the swedish nation how it is today. Finland, the baltic states, were just our Colonies or Provinces.
Hint: when you see a post containig the words rape and ass in one sentence, chances are it was sarcastic and needs not to be proven wrong by detailed historical discussions.
;)

Sorry I should start learning using smilies, let's see %) /) ()((=)( =], that's good enough, ok I'll put one of these in the end of this post so people understand that I'm not serious all the time =]

[gorg]

This thread has gone so off topic.

[Tributal]

This thread has gone so off topic.Great, isn't it? :D

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Those damn Norskis can't lay claim to Scotland as we humped them at the Battle of Largs and sent them running with their blonde pigtails all twisted. :D

[Tributal]

Those damn Norskis can't lay claim to Scotland as we humped them at the Battle of Largs and sent them running with their blonde pigtails all twisted. :DWhy am I having a Trainspotting-flashback?

"It's ****E being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the ****ing Earth! The most wretched miserable servile pathetic trash that was ever shat on civilization. Some people hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to get colonized by. We're ruled by effete assholes. It's a ****e state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world won't make any ****ing difference!"

rofl

[Ichhabe]

Those damn Norskis can't lay claim to Scotland as we humped them at the Battle of Largs and sent them running with their blonde pigtails all twisted. :D

Norway wont claim shait in Scotland. Except from Wiskhy, the only thing you Scots have given the world, is red pubic hair. ;)

[Parzival]

Yea, Even if Sweden were a great war-nation between 1600-1750 we never had a greta navy. Of course the russian was here, but they never scucced to invade us. :P As we never succede to Invade Moscow.Aside from France, under the rule of Napoleon, Sweden is the nation that was the closest to take Moscow (the Germans during WWII didn't get as far into Russia)- so we might not have taken the capitol, but we certainly invaded them. Just as they later invaded us.
If memory serves me right the Russian army invaded Sweden and held territory as far south as Boden while also invading us in the south with their navy. So, you might wanna check up on your history there.


One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.
No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.
And , No. Your information is completly wrong. Russia was here, They were in the outside of Stockholm but they never succede to invade Sweden. You got completly wrong infromation, you should read some better history books.

[Argyll]

Those damn Norskis can't lay claim to Scotland as we humped them at the Battle of Largs and sent them running with their blonde pigtails all twisted. :DWhy am I having a Trainspotting-flashback?

"It's ****E being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the f*** Earth! The most wretched miserable servile pathetic trash that was ever shat on civilization. Some people hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to get colonized by. We're ruled by effete assholes. It's a ****e state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world won't make any f*** difference!"

rofl


Because it's true!!!

[Tributal]

If memory serves me right the Russian army invaded Sweden and held territory as far south as Boden while also invading us in the south with their navy. So, you might wanna check up on your history there.

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.
No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.The E.U. is a union, but Sweden is still a sovereign country even though we're a member of the E.U. So your location should (if anything) be Stockholm, Sweden, E.U.


And , No. Your information is completly wrong. Russia was here, They were in the outside of Stockholm but they never succede to invade Sweden.Sigh... How is it wrong, and how the hell did they get to Stockholm without invading? The russians INVADED Sweden and OCCUPIED Swedish territory. However, they did not CONQUER Sweden.

And here's something to help you out:

Översättning av: invade
Svenskt uppslagsord
invaderar invaderade invaderat invadera(!) verb
det att göra invasion
<A invaderar x>

Engelsk översättning
invade

x x x x x

Översättning av: occupy
Engelskt uppslagsord
occupy

Svensk översättning
ockupera, inta, besätta (verb; transitivt)

x x x x x

Översättning av: conquer
Engelskt uppslagsord
conquer

Svensk översättning
besegra, övervinna (verb, transitivt)
vinna (seger) över, slå

[Tributal]

Those damn Norskis can't lay claim to Scotland as we humped them at the Battle of Largs and sent them running with their blonde pigtails all twisted. :DWhy am I having a Trainspotting-flashback?

"It's ****E being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the f*** Earth! The most wretched miserable servile pathetic trash that was ever shat on civilization. Some people hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to get colonized by. We're ruled by effete assholes. It's a ****e state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world won't make any f*** difference!"

roflBecause it's true!!!Ouch! So instead of the Scotts being able to say "we got conquered by the most feared group Nordic scum known to man" they have to settle with "we fought off the Vikings only to get conquered by wankers"? How sad. [;)]

[Thor]

Sweden as a nation has never been occupied I believe is the correct thing to say.

[Tributal]

Sweden as a nation has never been occupied I believe is the correct thing to say.No. Sweden has been occupied, though not for any great length of time.

I might have to point out that in order for a country to be occupied all of it's territory doesn't have to be occupied - it's enough that a substantial part of the country is controlled by the invading/occupying force. Vacon seem to be under the illusion that there has to be a foreign soldier within every 3 feet throughout the country in order for it to be invaded, let alone occupied.
rofl

[Tributal]

I'll decide whether or not sweden was ever occupiedSo... was it?

[Thor]

Sweden as a nation has never been occupied I believe is the correct thing to say.No. Sweden has been occupied, though not for any great length of time.

I might have to point out that in order for a country to be occupied all of it's territory doesn't have to be occupied - it's enough that a substantial part of the country is controlled by the invading/occupying force.

No, Sweden has not been occupied. If you advance with a small expeditionary force in to a country's practically unhabited wasteland far up north it would'nt exactly be fair to say that you have occupied the whole country.. Nor would you say Sweden was occupying Russia if we by next week sent a small expeditionary force along the Siberian coast in the arctic. As for one last example I would'nt say Sweden was occupied if russian forces occupied Gotland (an island).

[Tributal]

Sweden as a nation has never been occupied I believe is the correct thing to say.No. Sweden has been occupied, though not for any great length of time.

I might have to point out that in order for a country to be occupied all of it's territory doesn't have to be occupied - it's enough that a substantial part of the country is controlled by the invading/occupying force.

No, Sweden has not been occupied. If you advance with a small expeditionary force in to a country's practically unhabited wasteland far up north it would'nt exactly be fair to say that you have occupied the whole country.. Nor would you say Sweden was occupying Russia if we by next week sent a small expeditionary force along the Siberian coast in the arctic. As for one last example I would'nt say Sweden was occupied if russian forces occupied Gotland (an island).Sweden has been invaded and occupied with greater force than just expeditionary units.

As for your example of Gotland, even though Gotland constitutes a rather sizeable portion of Swedish territory I'll agree that it's not mainland Sweden, and therefore is excluded from this discussion based on the particular issues involving occupation of islands.

[Thor]

Sweden has been invaded and occupied with greater force than just expeditionary units.
Ok, then just go ahead and tell me when and by whom Sweden was occupied.. This country has never been occupied and that I would say is a well known and undisputed fact. If you however mean invaded that's first of all a different term and secondly a term that's also based on a different criteria.


As for your example of Gotland, even though Gotland constitutes a rather sizeable portion of Swedish territory
Erm, Gotland does not constitute a rather sizable portion of swedish territory at all, it only contistute 0.7 percent of Sweden's total area..

[Thor]

....

[Parzival]

If memory serves me right the Russian army invaded Sweden and held territory as far south as Boden while also invading us in the south with their navy. So, you might wanna check up on your history there.

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.
No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.The E.U. is a union, but Sweden is still a sovereign country even though we're a member of the E.U. So your location should (if anything) be Stockholm, Sweden, E.U.



And , No. Your information is completly wrong. Russia was here, They were in the outside of Stockholm but they never succede to invade Sweden.Sigh... How is it wrong, and how the hell did they get to Stockholm without invading? The russians INVADED Sweden and OCCUPIED Swedish territory. However, they did not CONQUER Sweden.

Excuse but what a hell has my location text with this topic to do???, Right me if I am wrong........

Russian has invade us, but they never succed to take command or counquer the country. And That's it, No hurt feelings...[/quote]

[Backis]

Oh.. fer crying out loud... :roll:

Vacon, get yer ass back to school damnit, you have LOTS to learn... :bash:

Sweden has of course been invaded, but only parts have been occupied. So NO, "Sweden" has never been occupied.

The only thing close to an occupation would be the Danes before Wasa threw them out, but the technicalities behind those events would not let us call that an occupation... rather a Swedish uprising and breakaway from the Kalmar-union (bloody Danes didn't know their place!). p-)

[Tributal]

Sweden has been invaded and occupied with greater force than just expeditionary units.
Ok, then just go ahead and tell me when and by whom Sweden was occupied.. This country has never been occupied and that I would say is a well known and undisputed fact. If you however mean invaded that's first of all a different term and secondly a term that's also based on a different criteria.Let's hear your definition of occupation, and please take time to read through my previous posts in this thread first - all of them. Oh, and while your doing that, please take the following definition into account as well:

Straight off of Totalförsvarets website (http://www.totalforsvaret.se/pcm/01_faktabasen/ordlista/ordlista.xml#O):

Ockupation Besittningstagande eller besättande. Folkrättsligt innebär ockupation dels besittningstagande av herrelöst territorium, dels militärt besättande av annan stats territorium.

As I've previously stated - the invading nation doesn't have to control 100% of the country in order for them to be considered an occupying force.

[Tributal]

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.The E.U. is a union, but Sweden is still a sovereign country even though we're a member of the E.U. So your location should (if anything) be Stockholm, Sweden, E.U.Excuse but what a hell has my location text with this topic to do???, Right me if I am wrong........It's been my pleasure to correct you. My comments in regards to your location was a separate item that I wanted to correct. It really cracks me up how someone who speaks so boldly about Sweden's past doesn't list it properly in his profile location. You won't see any Brits write London, E.U. or any French write Paris, E.U., etc etc.





And , No. Your information is completly wrong. Russia was here, They were in the outside of Stockholm but they never succede to invade Sweden.Sigh... How is it wrong, and how the hell did they get to Stockholm without invading? The russians INVADED Sweden and OCCUPIED Swedish territory. However, they did not CONQUER Sweden.
Russian has invade us, but they never succed to take command or counquer the country. And That's it, No hurt feelings...I see my translation helped.

[Parzival]

Oh.. fer crying out loud... :roll:

Vacon, get yer ass back to school damnit, you have LOTS to learn... :bash:

Sweden has of course been invaded, but only parts have been occupied. So NO, "Sweden" has never been occupied.

The only thing close to an occupation would be the Danes before Wasa threw them out, but the technicalities behind those events would not let us call that an occupation... rather a Swedish uprising and breakaway from the Kalmar-union (bloody Danes didn't know their place!). p-)
You Morrow, Go back to school. I've Never said Sweden were Occupied.!! :bash:

[Parzival]

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.The E.U. is a union, but Sweden is still a sovereign country even though we're a member of the E.U. So your location should (if anything) be Stockholm, Sweden, E.U.Excuse but what a hell has my location text with this topic to do???, Right me if I am wrong........It's been my pleasure to correct you. My comments in regards to your location was a separate item that I wanted to correct. It really cracks me up how someone who speaks so boldly about Sweden's past doesn't list it properly in his profile location. You won't see any Brits write London, E.U. or any French write Paris, E.U., etc etc.



Are you serious?
You mean i should write Bromma, Stockholm, Stockholm län, Uppland/södemanland, Svealand, Sweden, Scandinavian, North Europe, EU, Europe, World, System, Galaxy, Univers et.c

Sure..... :roll:

[gorg]

Amazing, Vacon has been a member for 40 days and have written over 200 posts, all of which are idiotic.

No offence Vacon but you must have noticed that no one ever agrees with you.

[Backis]

You Morrow, Go back to school. I've Never said Sweden were Occupied.!! :bash:

My comment about you level of knowledge was not connected to the later specification of wether Sweden has ever been occupied or not, that was a general contribution of information on that particular topic.

And thats MORON btw... :roll:

[Parzival]

You Morrow, Go back to school. I've Never said Sweden were Occupied.!! :bash:

My comment about you level of knowledge was not connected to the later specification of wether Sweden has ever been occupied or not, that was a general contribution of information on that particular topic.

And thats MORON btw... :roll:
Come on, Boy. grow up.
You know as well as I do, You got completly wrong information. As i said before, I've never said we were occupied. You maked up that comment in you dreams.

And Gorg, That post wasn't nessecary. I am not the man, that posting stupid replays, Is you.

[Backis]

Come on, Boy. grow up.

Yawn...



You know as well as I do, You got completly wrong information. As i said before, I've never said we were occupied. You maked up that comment in you dreams.

A smilie says a thousand words.

:roll:

[Guttorm]

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen! Doesn't this also mean that you have to surrender your sovereign rule back to Denmark since Jamtland, Herjedalen, and Norway all belonged to Denmark at the time? ;)

Oh... errrm...

Eh... Neh... Keep it! We don't WANT IT! Cuz we got the fjords.... ;) ;D

[Tributal]

One final thing - your location in your profile: You're in Stockholm, Sweden. The EU is not a nation.No, I live in Stockholm, EU. EU is an Union.The E.U. is a union, but Sweden is still a sovereign country even though we're a member of the E.U. So your location should (if anything) be Stockholm, Sweden, E.U.Excuse but what a hell has my location text with this topic to do???, Right me if I am wrong........It's been my pleasure to correct you. My comments in regards to your location was a separate item that I wanted to correct. It really cracks me up how someone who speaks so boldly about Sweden's past doesn't list it properly in his profile location. You won't see any Brits write London, E.U. or any French write Paris, E.U., etc etc.Are you serious?
You mean i should write Bromma, Stockholm, Stockholm län, Uppland/södemanland, Svealand, Sweden, Scandinavian, North Europe, EU, Europe, World, System, Galaxy, Univers et.cNo, like I plainly stated previously you should write "Stockholm, Sweden." Whether or not you tack the dispicable "E.U." onto that (as in after) is up to you. So, to make it abundantly clear you have the following options:
1. Leave it blank or come up with something witty (I wouldn't try too hard at the witty part just yet if I was you.)
2. Write "Stockholm," "Sweden," or "E.U"
3. Write "Stockholm, Sweden"
4. Write "Stockholm, Sweden, E.U."Any of those would be accurate, but leaving Sweden out when writing both Stockholm and E.U. implies that Sweden no longer exists and instead has been usurped by the E.U. - and where not there just yet (hopefully we'll never get to that point.)

Once you get into high school you should learn about these things - so don't worry, just fix it for now and it will all become plain as day to you later.

[Tributal]

Norway get's back Jamtland and Herjedalen! Doesn't this also mean that you have to surrender your sovereign rule back to Denmark since Jamtland, Herjedalen, and Norway all belonged to Denmark at the time? ;)

Oh... errrm...

Eh... Neh... Keep it! We don't WANT IT! Cuz we got the fjords.... ;) :DHey, at least you guys did the right thing and stayed the hell out of the European Union - things seem to go very well for you guys, regardless of your long-ago loss of Härjedalen and Jämtland. :hug:

[Argyll]

WTF has the last 3 pages got to do with the topic?

This is way off topic!! :bash:

[Tributal]

WTF has the last 3 pages got to do with the topic?

This is way off topic!! :bash:Sorry. Just tried to correct some errors and misconceptions that were floating around.

[Argyll]

WTF has the last 3 pages got to do with the topic?

This is way off topic!! :bash:Sorry. Just tried to correct some errors and misconceptions that were floating around.

A bit like pissin against the wind in a fokin storm mate ;)

[Tributal]

Just tried to correct some errors and misconceptions that were floating around.A bit like pissin against the wind in a fokin storm mate ;)Ain't that the truth. Since I doubt Vacon took anything to heart I can only hope that someone who didn't actively participate in the discussion might have learned a thing or two.

[Thor]

As I've previously stated - the invading nation doesn't have to control 100% of the country in order for them to be considered an occupying force.

You're absolutely right but you're still absolutely wrong. If you had been saying that part of Sweden once was occupied I would agree. But saying Sweden as a nation has been under the rule of an occupying force is wrong and your dictionary check-up does not support your case.

Was Britain occupied by Argentina in the 1980's? No, but the Falkland Islands were..

[Tributal]

As I've previously stated - the invading nation doesn't have to control 100% of the country in order for them to be considered an occupying force.

You're absolutely right but you're still absolutely wrong. If you had been saying that part of Sweden once was occupied I would agree. But saying Sweden as a nation has been under the rule of an occupying force is wrong and your dictionary check-up does not support your case.I never said that Sweden as a nation has been under the rule of an occupying force. I think you read to much into my statements. What I've been trying to say (and this is where and why I threw in the dictionary definitions) is that Sweden has been both invaded and occupied (having the Russian army camp out in Umeå and holding all territory north of there for 6 moths consitutes an occupation.)

Vacon stated that Sweden had never been invaded - incorrect.
Vacon then stated that Sweden had never been occupied - also incorrect.
Had he said that Sweden has never lost it's rule to an occupying force since the days of Vasa - then he would have been correct. I was trying to point out that a nation can be under occupation without losing it's sovereign rule.

So, going back to the Falklands - yes, British territory was invaded and occupied. But as I've stated before in the case of Gotland - islands come under a different treatment. Had there been Argentinian troops in Wales for a few moths then I would have said that they were being occupied. See what I'm saying?

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

Would that mean we're being invaded each time the german navy forgets to turn before entering swedish national waters?

[Backis]

See what I'm saying?

Yes, and you're really out there...

[Truthsayer]

Let us just conclude this topic, and start another one in offtopic about this other crap? =)



Conclusion: Yet another fascist sees ties between two countries that have nothing in common, since it fits his picture of the world and his political agenda.


"Sweden - Syria - Al Quedia...see, everyone can see the dots connecting. Now, lets invade the euro-trash."

Bring it on.