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Resurrection
03-10-2006, 07:11 AM
CAMP MERCURY, Iraq --- Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to want one. Marines with Regimental Combat Team 5, based in Camp Fallujah, test-fired the latest in the Corps’ arsenal of weapons’ improvement, the M-32 Multiple shot Grenade Launcher. It’s a six-barreled, 40 mm beast of weapon that has just about enough attitude for Marines.

“I thought it was pretty bad the first time I saw it,” said Cpl. Jason H. Flanery, a 23-year-old mortarman from St. Louis, Mo, assigned to RCT-5’s Personnel Security Detachment.

The M-32 MGL looks like something straight out of an action movie or a weapon ginned up by designers of futuristic video combat games. It’s a bare-bones, shoulder-fired weapon with a bulging six-barreled cylinder. There’s no bones about it. This thing’s all business when the trade is knocking out bad-guys at a distance. “You can put six rounds on target in under three seconds,” Flanery said. “I thought this thing was sick.”

Sick might be right for the insurgent on the other end of the sight. The M-32 MGL is step up from the M-203 grenade launcher Marines have used since post-Vietnam days. It fires similar 40 mm grenades and at similar distances. It just puts more rounds on the bad guys faster.

“The ‘203 has been around since the ‘60’s,” explained CWO4 Gene A. Bridgman, the regiment’s gunner, or weapons expert. “It keeps improving. This is a progression in the weapons system.”

Flanery put the comparison of the two similar weapons in more simple terms. “It makes it obsolete,” he said. “It’s that much better.”

The idea to bring M-32 was the brainchild of Marine gunners across the Corps, explained Bridgman, a 43-year-old from Garden City, Kan. During an annual symposium, they decided an improvement was needed over the M-203. One option was to bring back a rifle-grenade. The M-32, won out, however, and now each Marine battalion will field them as an experimental weapon.

Bridgman added the M-32 isn’t a new idea altogether, though. Brazilian, Italian and South African military have carried them in the field for years. Marines, though, took it one step further.

A fore-grip was added and a scope was mounted to the top, eliminating the old leaf sights like that of the M-203. The scope allows a Marine to follow the grenade to the target and immediately adjust and follow up with a lethal volley of indirect fire.

“The ‘203 was on shot at time,” Bridgman said. “The ‘203 became a signal weapon. This is more of an offensive weapon. With this, you shoot, adjust and fire for effect.”

The average Marine said it’s just about that easy to shoot. Lance Cpl. Alexandro R. Raymundo, a 20-year-old from Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., isn’t an infantryman. He’s a network administrator by trade. He shot the M-203 before during initial training, but this was his first time picking up the M-32 MGL.

“I thought it might be like the ‘203,” Raymundo said. “But is shoots more rounds, faster. It’s really simple. I had ‘hands-on’ once. I picked it up really quickly.”

As far as how it felt shooting it, Raymundo said the weapon was about as beefy as it looks. “I felt like there’s more recoil than the ‘203 and the trigger’s a lot heavier” he explained. “It’s heftier than the ‘203.”
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budgie
03-10-2006, 09:29 AM
I wanna pic!!!

Resurrection
03-10-2006, 09:39 AM
Same here, can't seem to find one though.

striker
03-10-2006, 09:50 AM
pic here
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57616

oh, and behave there

Freibier
03-10-2006, 10:25 AM
Thanks striker!

Nordwind
03-10-2006, 12:19 PM
That beast is made in South Africa :D

Resurrection
03-10-2006, 12:22 PM
That beast is made in South Africa :D

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4163/smgl9ti.jpg

That? Then we use them too.

scm77
03-10-2006, 12:28 PM
http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc230/th_16978_060309_M_8112O_MGL1.jpg (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc230&image=16978_060309_M_8112O_MGL1.jpg) http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc192/th_16900_060309_M_8112O_MGL10.jpg (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc192&image=16900_060309_M_8112O_MGL10.jpg) http://img9.imagevenue.com/loc164/th_16995_060309_M_8112O_MGL11.jpg (http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc164&image=16995_060309_M_8112O_MGL11.jpg) http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc233/th_16963_060309_M_8112O_MGL12.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc233&image=16963_060309_M_8112O_MGL12.jpg)

http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc116/th_16999_060309_M_8112O_MGL13.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc116&image=16999_060309_M_8112O_MGL13.jpg) http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc173/th_17045_060309_M_8112O_MGL14.jpg (http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc173&image=17045_060309_M_8112O_MGL14.jpg) http://img17.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_17099_060309_M_8112O_MGL2.jpg (http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc183&image=17099_060309_M_8112O_MGL2.jpg) http://img124.imagevenue.com/loc190/th_17002_060309_M_8112O_MGL3.jpg (http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc190&image=17002_060309_M_8112O_MGL3.jpg)

http://img18.imagevenue.com/loc261/th_17029_060309_M_8112O_MGL4.jpg (http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc261&image=17029_060309_M_8112O_MGL4.jpg) http://img140.imagevenue.com/loc229/th_17013_060309_M_8112O_MGL5.jpg (http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc229&image=17013_060309_M_8112O_MGL5.jpg) http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc18/th_17000_060309_M_8112O_MGL7.jpg (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc18&image=17000_060309_M_8112O_MGL7.jpg) http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc272/th_17031_060309_M_8112O_MGL8.jpg (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc272&image=17031_060309_M_8112O_MGL8.jpg)

http://img102.imagevenue.com/loc3/th_17052_060309_M_8112O_MGL9.jpg (http://img102.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc3&image=17052_060309_M_8112O_MGL9.jpg)

oldsoak
03-10-2006, 12:49 PM
looks like the Arwen we used in NI years ago. Fired baton or teargas IIRC

Resurrection
03-10-2006, 01:15 PM
scm77 the link isn't working. Could you host the pics?

Adam Wilhelm
03-10-2006, 01:41 PM
That? Then we use them too.

No, we don´t.
we used them only for trials.

Resurrection
03-10-2006, 01:45 PM
Oh ok, thought they had gotten farther than that.

scm77
03-10-2006, 02:00 PM
scm77 the link isn't working. Could you host the pics?
Done :)

I don't want to type more characters.

Adam Wilhelm
03-10-2006, 02:00 PM
So what so new about this one?


Bridgman added the M-32 isn’t a new idea altogether, though. Brazilian, Italian and South African military have carried them in the field for years. Marines, though, took it one step further.

A fore-grip was added and a scope was mounted to the top, eliminating the old leaf sights like that of the M-203. The scope allows a Marine to follow the grenade to the target and immediately adjust and follow up with a lethal volley of indirect fire.

According to this qoute it sounds that the Marines took the concept and developed it way further.
We had them on trials in 1996 in this configuration.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4163/smgl9ti.jpg

RGRBOX
03-10-2006, 02:48 PM
Damn... sweet! I think I'm in luv...

Resurrection
03-10-2006, 02:49 PM
Done :)

I don't want to type more characters.
Thanks man, awesome pics.

stuntman
03-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Don't you guys understand the USMC's made it D3lt@11one!!!3leven!!!!11..

RP
03-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Looks very similiar to the "Ringo" - which is pretty much the same thing, except for that it is for tears gas grenades only...
http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2005/10/07/41248484.jpg
Hi-Res (http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2005/10/07/41248484.jpg)
Thanks for Sirpad for the scan from "Blazer" Magazine.

khukuri
03-10-2006, 03:41 PM
russians have a similar one, but with foldable sights instead

Ratamacue
03-10-2006, 04:49 PM
Can't wait until I can get my hands on one of these puppies.

bluffcove
03-10-2006, 05:43 PM
You get six shots to suppress an enemy at range with HE tear gas or whatever, but as soon as you need to move forward your going to need an individual weapon. its not going to be sensible to dump it and run on so some poor mug is going to end up with two weapons swinging about his frame! or would this nly be used from a vehicle? does it come with a Battman to carry it for you?

the advantage of the M203 as I saw it was tht it was a part of your weapon and shared common features with your assault rifle, the stock grip and frame etc this is a second weapon and unlike video games its going to weigh something if you carry multiple gats around with you.

Have I missed the point or am I jsut being cynical?

mi35d
03-10-2006, 05:59 PM
Nope Blue, I was going to make the same comment. The soldier (or Marine) carrying such a weapon has to carry some sort of other weapon or will basically be a permanent grenadier. You fire off the six grenades and then have to reload. Hmmm...typical M203 can holds 25 rounds and weighs a good bit. Imagine having to lug several days worth of ammo.

Good idea for limited offensive actions or defensive role where your ammo can be stockpiled.

I've always found the M203 to be an accurate weapon. And unlike a rifle grenade system you don't have to muck about with a blank launcher round.

Thor
03-10-2006, 11:25 PM
mi35d, I know that that was exactly why units here decided to stick to the m203 when they tested the similar south african automatic grenade thingie.. The gunner for most part turned into a dedicated grenadier and that wasn't the idea.

Michael RVR
03-11-2006, 10:11 PM
According to this qoute it sounds that the Marines took the concept and developed it way further.


I wouldn't say developed, they did the bog standard us thing - chuck a heap of rails on it and an M-4 stock.

Look ma, i made something 'new' p-)

Mastermind
03-11-2006, 10:32 PM
Yeah! I just love a$$ kickin' stuff...especially when it is all ours and the Marines are using it. That way I know the right people will feel the pain.

TuNeRsHaRk
03-12-2006, 08:11 AM
holy shyt, that thing is sweet

G-Capo
03-12-2006, 07:13 PM
That is awesome,Hopefuly we will buy the new models from South Africa.Rebels hate the damn thing :)

baboon6
03-14-2006, 11:23 AM
Nope Blue, I was going to make the same comment. The soldier (or Marine) carrying such a weapon has to carry some sort of other weapon or will basically be a permanent grenadier. You fire off the six grenades and then have to reload. Hmmm...typical M203 can holds 25 rounds and weighs a good bit. Imagine having to lug several days worth of ammo.

Good idea for limited offensive actions or defensive role where your ammo can be stockpiled.

I've always found the M203 to be an accurate weapon. And unlike a rifle grenade system you don't have to muck about with a blank launcher round.

Many rifle grenades today can be fired with normal ball cartridges, the so-called "bullet trap" system.

dobrodan
03-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Many rifle grenades today can be fired with normal ball cartridges, the so-called "bullet trap" system.

You also have "bullet-thru" grenades, which can be used together with AP-ammo.

A bonus with riflegrenades is that there is room for more explosives than in a 40mm grenade.

It is also cheaper to practice with, so even though they are less accurate than 40mm UGLs in theory, they tend to be more accurate in use because training-grenades can be picked up and fired again, reducing traing-costs greatly.