View Full Version : 16"(400mm) Gun Firing of Battleship Pics
uniroad
03-06-2004, 04:30 AM
Very powerful 16" gun firing and blast wave
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire01_iowa.jpg
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire02_iowa.jpg
Iowa Class
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire03_jersey.jpg
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire04_jersey.jpg
New Jersey
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire05_missouri.jpg
Missouri
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire06.jpg
;)
Herrmannek
03-06-2004, 04:34 AM
Why no one is on deck?
BT_Recon
03-06-2004, 05:04 AM
Naval firepower totally dominates
jassemon
03-06-2004, 09:10 AM
Awesome pics, thank you for posting them. Especially the first on rocks! :D
TALOS
03-06-2004, 09:31 AM
Why no one is on deck?
Apparently, what I have heard, is that the shock from the blast can injure (kill?) anyone on deck.
Falco
03-06-2004, 09:33 AM
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire01_iowa.jpg
That one is a classic woot
Nondescript
03-06-2004, 10:22 AM
Damn it I've seen those already, but they're cool so don't mind. woot
One thing I've always wondered is how much the ship moves sideways when firing all the guns, I mean there is a lot of power in those guns.
Dennis G
03-06-2004, 10:25 AM
very cool photos
very nice ships !
but are the full time combat ships ? or just memorial ships ?
if it is a full time combat ship, why use kanons when missiles are much better ?
AK-Lover
03-06-2004, 11:21 AM
Does the U.S. navy have any of those old style battleships like that left in service? (shore bombardment?) Because Im read in a vietnam book that the used one or two (i don't remember) to cover the marine landings in 1963. :D
PsihoKeke
03-06-2004, 01:47 PM
They used the last one in Gulf war, and decomisioned it afterwards.
GrantT
03-06-2004, 03:03 PM
Why no one is on deck?
Would you want to be on deck when one of those big bastards go off?
Crazy_Ivan
03-06-2004, 03:16 PM
http://republika.pl/ramius21/SeaPower10%5b1%5d.jpg
Ian H
03-06-2004, 05:06 PM
One thing I've always wondered is how much the ship moves sideways when firing all the guns, I mean there is a lot of power in those guns.
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire04_jersey.jpg
A fair bit, judging by the wake at the bow.
uniroad
03-07-2004, 04:44 AM
More pics
Enjoy it. ;)
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire08_iowa.jpg
Iowa installing 16" gun turret, 1942
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire09_iowa.jpg
Iowa firing 16" shell at North Korean target, 1952
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire10_jersey.jpg
New Jersey
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire11_wisconsin.jpg
Winconsin
Javehn
03-07-2004, 10:28 AM
Hell yea , unbellivable fire power . I pity the fool in the middle of the blast . :| This is just so beautiful pictures , unbellivable . It's interesting how they managed to shoot on camera , while on the deck .
Apparently, what I have heard, is that the shock from the blast can injure (kill?) anyone on deck.
Under siege , Stieven Sigal , ha ? ;)
usa320
03-07-2004, 12:35 PM
The guns can also cause severe hearing damage if proper protection isnt utilized. Not only will the sound, but the pressure will fuk your ears up.
The last Battleships on active duty were the Iowa class ships. They were retired in the 80's, but in 1990 they were pulled out of Mothballs and refitted with TLAM's and updated instruments and they served in the gulf war. THe Iowa class ships remain in Mothballs, and if it was necessary they could be put back into service and refitted.
Seoulstriker
03-07-2004, 04:28 PM
i have some cool photos of the battleships firing. i'll scan them in when i get home (3 weeks).
OzMan
03-07-2004, 11:04 PM
What's the name of the anti-missile Gatling gun some ships have? Anyone know the specs? Any pics?
memphiz
03-07-2004, 11:32 PM
what prevents the ship from flipping over when fireing its guns?
stateofequilibrium
03-07-2004, 11:54 PM
Hell yea , unbellivable fire power . I pity the fool in the middle of the blast . :| This is just so beautiful pictures , unbellivable . It's interesting how they managed to shoot on camera , while on the deck .
Apparently, what I have heard, is that the shock from the blast can injure (kill?) anyone on deck.
Under siege , Stieven Sigal , ha ? ;)
What's the routine when you're firing heavy artillery? Keep your mouth open and breathe out? You want to equilibrize your auditory canal with the outside. If your mouth's closed the shock wave has no where else to go but to rip apart your tympanic membrane. With your mouth opening and the "yawning" effect you're opening up your eusthucian (sp?) tube that connects from your canal to your mouth giving it another pathway out.
Seraphim
03-08-2004, 02:00 AM
What's the name of the anti-missile Gatling gun some ships have? Anyone know the specs? Any pics?
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-15.htm
MK133
03-08-2004, 02:13 AM
15 miles
Lysander
03-08-2004, 12:21 PM
This might be off topic, but isn't the German Navy testing the turret from the PZH2000(?) on one of their ships?
Maciek
03-08-2004, 12:44 PM
German Navy is testing the turret from the PZH2000 on Hamburg F 124 frigate
Maciek
03-08-2004, 12:47 PM
Topic is 400mm :) so 155mm is just a little of topic :lol:
Maciek
03-08-2004, 12:54 PM
http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/img/MONARC2.jpg
http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/img/MONARC1.jpg
MPython8118
03-08-2004, 08:00 PM
what prevents the ship from flipping over when fireing its guns?
Around a thousand tons of weight in the hull, that's what.
memphiz
03-08-2004, 08:08 PM
what prevents the ship from flipping over when fireing its guns?
Around a thousand tons of weight in the hull, that's what.
hmm ok thanks, those guns seem so powerful, that if they all fired at the same time, it could flip the ship
what prevents the ship from flipping over when fireing its guns?
Around a thousand tons of weight in the hull, that's what.
hmm ok thanks, those guns seem so powerful, that if they all fired at the same time, it could flip the ship
I have a book on the Iowa class ships. There was some concern about that and I don't think they ever fire more than one gun from each turret at exactly the same time for that reason. They fire each turret one barrel at a time, or one from each turret at the same time if I rememebr right. Next time I am at my Mom's house I'll get that book and scan some in. Great ships.
Japanese surrendered on the Missouri (an Iowa class) in Tokyo bay. I can't rememebr which one it was (Iowa, Missouri, New Jersey, Wisconsin) - but one of the Iowa class fired the last battleship v battleship shot.
hank
Falco
03-08-2004, 08:21 PM
what prevents the ship from flipping over when fireing its guns?
Around a thousand tons of weight in the hull, that's what.
hmm ok thanks, those guns seem so powerful, that if they all fired at the same time, it could flip the ship
They might have some underwater stabilisation devices such as fins. BTW it's more like 46 000 tons.
memphiz
03-08-2004, 08:42 PM
ok thanks guys....now if all the front turrets fired in the left direction, and all the rear turrets fired right...will the ship spin in circles?
Skaman
03-08-2004, 09:37 PM
Anyone care to list the top five battleships over the last hundread years?
I say:
1 Bismarck
BISMARCK (Feb. 14,1939)
TIRPITZ (April 1, 1939)
DEUTCHLAND (laid down 1938)
FRIEDRICH DER GROSSE or HINDENBURG (laid down 1939)
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Displacement: 42,000 tons standart. Full load 50,995 tons (emergency full load Bismarck), 52,700 tons (Tirpitz)
Complement: 1500
Length: (w.l.) 791 feet
Beam: 118 feet
Draught: (mean) 28 feet.
Guns:
8 - 15 inch
12 - 5.9 inch
16 - 4.1 inch
16 - 37mm 83 cal
12 - 20mm 65 cal (30 installed on Tirpitz 1942)
final fit on Tirpitz 16 quad 20mm L 38 Vierlige
16 single 20mm
Torpedoes 2 x 21" quad tubes installed on Tirpitz 1942
Armour:
Side 12.59" tapered to 10.35" at bottom
Deck 1.96" upper deck
3.14" - 4.72" armor deck
Forward Transverse Bulkhead 8.7"
Turrets 14.1" faces
8" - 5" sides and roof
Barbettes 13.5" sides
Conning Tower 14.1" sides
Aircraft: 4 Arado AR 196, with 2 catapults
Machinery: Geared turbines. 2 shafts. High pressure water-tube boilers. S.H.P. 150,000. Oil fuel: 8000 tons (max.)
http://www.voodoo.cz/battleships/pics/s/ssch_bis.jpg
2.Tirpitiz
TIRPITZ - Damaged by British X6 midget submarine Sep.22, 1943 that laid limpet mines on her hull
turbines blasted off mountings,shafts and rudder disabled, repaired Sep 1943-Mar., 1944. Damaged again by RAF Barracuda's Apr.5, 1944 being hit 15 times by bombs, damaged by one bomb from RAF bombers Apr.1, 1944, under air attack later part of Aug. 1944, hit by one bomb on bow Oct.14, 1944, moved to Tromso,Norway (Sande Sound) Oct.17, 1944 (8 knots best speed). Bombed by 32 RAF Lancasters with 13,200 LB Tallboy bombs Nov.12, 1944, 3 hits several near misses caused her to capsize. Scrapped on site 1948-57
3.Yamato/Musashi
Displacement: 62,315 tons standard (about 69,990 tons full load)
Complement: 2500
Length: (p.p) 800 1 feet, (o.a.) 840 feet.
Beam: 121 feet
Draught: 34 feet (mean)
Guns:
9 - 18 inch, 45 cal
12 - 6 inch, 60 cal
12 - 5 inch, 40 cal DP
24 - 25 mm AA
4 - 13,2 mm AA
Armour:
16" Belt
9" - 8" Deck
21 1/2" - 2" Barbettes
25 1/2" - 7 1/2" Turrets
19 3/4 - 11 3/4 Conning tower
Aircraft: 7
Machinery: 4-shaft geared turbines, 12 boilers, 150,000 shp=27 knots.
Oil, 6,300 tons.
YAMATO sunk by US Navy aircraft April 7th, 1945
MUSASHI sunk by US Navy aircraft in the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea, October 24th, 1944.
http://www.voodoo.cz/battleships/pics/s/ssch_yamato.gif
4.Scharnhorst
Displacement: 26,000 tons standart
Complement: 1461
Length: (w.l.) 741 1/2 feet
Beam: 98 1/2 feet
Draught: 24 2/3 feet (mean)
Guns:
9 - 11 inch
12 - 5.9 inch
14 - 4.1 inch AA
16 - 37 mm AA
10 - 20mm AA
Armour:
12"- 13" Belt amidships, 3" - 4" ends
12" Turrets
6" Decks
Aircraft: 3, with 2 catapults (Hangar is between funnel and after superstructure.)
Machinery: Geared turbines, combined with Diesels for cruising speed
Scharnhorst - Sunk in action with HMS Duke Of York Dec.26, 1943.
5. MISSOURI
Jan. 13, 1945 at West Caroline Islands; Feb. 16, 1945 with Task Force 58 and with the first air strikes on Japan since Doolittle Raid of April 1942
- Feb. 19, 1945 invasion of Iwo Jima; March 14, 1945 with carrier raids on Japan; April 1, 1945 at Okinawa
- Was in carrier group that sank Japanese Battleship Yamato on April 7, 1945 which had the world's largest guns at 18.2"
- April 11, 1945 hit by kamikaze near the main deck; July and August 1945 with carrier raids on the Japanese Home Islands
- Sept. 2, 1945 the Japanese formal surrender for WW2 took place on her on deck from 09.02 to 09.30 hours; March 25, 1949 only U.S. Battleship in commission
- Jan. 17, 1950, when 1.6 miles from Thimble Shoals Light she ran aground; refloated on Feb. 1, 1950
- Sept. 14 - March 19, 1951 Korea; October 25, 1952 - Jan. 2, 1953 KOrea; Feb. 1, 1953 - March 25, 1953 Korea
- Recommissioned July 1, 1986 to serve in Carrier and Battleship Command and Support Groups, also as a Command and Control ship; served in Operation Desert Storm from Jan. 15 to Feb. 27, 1991
- Commissioned June 11, 1944, decommissioned Feb. 26, 1955; recommissioned May 10, 1986, decommissioned March 31, 1992
http://www.voodoo.cz/battleships/pics/s/ssch_iowa.jpg
Very powerful 16" gun firing and blast wave
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yobekaf/fire01_iowa.jpg
**** that gives me wood!
Anyone care to list the top five battleships over the last hundread years?
stat wise id have to say the musashi. actual combat tested wise then yah, the bis. my friend mentioned the japs were also planning another battleship to end all ships. would have been interesting to see that.
FallenAngel
03-08-2004, 10:11 PM
Anyone care to list the top five battleships over the last hundread years?
stat wise id have to say the musashi. actual combat tested wise then yah, the bis. my friend mentioned the japs were also planning another battleship to end all ships. would have been interesting to see that.
That Japanese battleship was going to mount 12 22 inch (!) guns and weigh in at an outstanding 140,000 tones. Would have been a giant of the seas.
The largest design the US was contemplating was the Montana class. 12 16 inch guns and an extra 5 inch turret on each side. Basically an up-gunned but slower Iowa.
the iowa's rocked, they prolly could have taken the bismark but then again they were newer. damn that jap ship sounds cool! were the germans also planning the next fleet or rather "had" plans? i dig ships. thx for that info.
Skaman
03-08-2004, 10:43 PM
the iowa's rocked, they prolly could have taken the bismark but then again they were newer. damn that jap ship sounds cool! were the germans also planning the next fleet or rather "had" plans? i dig ships. thx for that info.
The Japanese Imperial Navy was a force to be reckoned with. If it was not for poor intelligence and a successful American gamble at Midway, the Japanese would have likely dominated the Pacific seas.
memphiz
03-08-2004, 11:27 PM
it took what like 3 destroyers, and a couple of planes to finally sink the Bismarck...did any of you watch that show on Discovery Channel, were they go down do the Bismarck, i think James Cameron did it.
the iowa's rocked, they prolly could have taken the bismark but then again they were newer. damn that jap ship sounds cool! were the germans also planning the next fleet or rather "had" plans? i dig ships. thx for that info.
The Japanese Imperial Navy was a force to be reckoned with. If it was not for poor intelligence and a successful American gamble at Midway, the Japanese would have likely dominated the Pacific seas.
for a time easily, but the japanese were slow to move away from the size of thier swords (battleships) and the effect of thier stings (small compared to a host of carrier based air planes).
also thier kamikaze doctrine didnt help too much either in taking control of the air and they couldnt touch american output for ships and especially air industrial wise. they were desperate for air platforms to the point they converted the third yamato class battleship into a makeshift carrier which was destroyed easily as many features were unfinished survivability wise. i think the japanese were a good force but slow to adopt new ideas/tactics used by the other side in "full force" and by the time they did it was too late.
i think both nations fleets were on the edge those days with the tide able to swing either way for a short window of time. one thing thats interesting is the fact that even though alot of damage was done at pearl harbor we still had "just" enough to push back and win the war.
He219
03-09-2004, 05:16 PM
Just stumbled onto these:
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2696602.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=1D9C687E0296EBE600C5529F3D0E56EC
US battleship 'Missouri' bombarding Chongjin, North Korea, with her 16 inch guns during a mission to set out the lines of communication between Northern and Southern parts of Korea during the Korean War. Chongjin is very close to the Soviet border and Russian Naval base at Vladivostok. (Photo by Central Press/***** Images)
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k12000/k12603.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g420000/g426954.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h96000/h96811.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g700000/g706922.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h96000/h96786.jpg
Sixgun Symphony
03-10-2004, 01:57 AM
What's their range?
Most published information will say 20mi, but the range is...
Nope, I can't say it. Loose lips sink ships. ;)
Lets just say that the range is greater than that.
Sixgun Symphony
03-10-2004, 02:09 AM
very nice ships !
but are the full time combat ships ? or just memorial ships ?
if it is a full time combat ship, why use kanons when missiles are much better ?
The battleships were equipped with missles in the 1980's, but they were brought back for their guns as the Marines need the fire support for their amphibious assaults. Modern ships just don't have the guns like the older ships.
Missiles are good for knocking out an airfield or a command post. But for bombarding trenches and the like, it is better to use the guns.
mustamato
03-10-2004, 02:30 AM
These are quite big as well, Kuivasaari fortress, coastal artillery. Not quite
400 mm, but 305 mm (12"). Today itīs a museum, and it fires once a year, during
Finlands indepedence day. During the second world war it was coastal artillery
like this that kept the Soviet Baltic fleet trapped in Leningrad and kept the Baltic
sea more or less safe (except for the Soviet submarines).
http://www.sweb.cz/fortif/images/8_02/kuiv_4.jpg
http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/kuivasaa/kuivshot.jpg
http://sweb.cz/fortif/images/8_02/kuiv_map.gif
The fortress island.
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