TNI in Gallery (the New Photos)

[bambu runcing]

If I'm not mistaken, NVG google has little hole on its cover for daylight service. The front lens not literally closed, only iluminated by small hole on the cover.

Just as the case in the George W Bush photograph when he was using NVG binocular with its cover closed, in Korean border.


Syukur banget Lensa nya dah ditutup, klo nggak buta deh..... masa'an siang2 makenya...

[toukairin]

Greetings! I'm new here in MP.net.Just want to know more about the bleeding pattern camouflage.Who uses it in the Indonesian military,How did they come up with the pattern and a bit of history please.I like this pattern I think it's very unique.Thanks very much!:)

Ok, for a quick reply, I'd have to answer only one of your question. The "Darah Mengalir" (lit. "Streaming Blood" or "Bleeding") is a distinct camo pattern belonging to Indonesian Army's elite Special Forces, the KOPASSUS (Komando Pasukan Khusus or Special Forces Commando).

The pattern is only used during the unit's internal events, activities inside the "ksatrian" (HQ), etc. It cannot be used for general purposes, because the rule dictates so. KOPASSUS has to wear the TNI Camo (Malvinas) in other activities.

About the history.... I'd have to go check it in a magazine, it's in my campus so i have to go and fetch it...

[Master Chief]

This camo pattern is unique indeed. The pattern is so called "Darah Mengalir" (English: the Streaming Blood), because of the reddish color & flowing pattern. It was derived from the British's Depison or Denison Smock pattern.

It was invented back in early 60s by a Captain from RPKAD (the previous name for Kopassus) with a little bit misunderstanding between himself & the printing company in Bandung. Anyhow, the "incident" pattern was approved by the RPKAD chief & finally it was officially displayed during an anniversary of ABRI in October 5, 1964.

In Oct 5, 1983, TNI officially recognized only one uniformed camo pattern, adopted from the British's DPM, for the whole armed forces. Along with this, the Kopasandha (another previous name of Kopassus) unit camo was dissolved.

In 1996, TNI issued a regulation which allowing each service unit to maintain their own camo pattern only for internal events. The "Darah Mengalir" resurrected with a minor modification; now it has more green color & reduced red (since when you got green stuff in your blood ?).

The other TNI units which have distinctive camo pattern, similar to Kopassus & derived from Denison/Depison Smock, are Navy's Marines & AF's Korpaskhas.



Greetings! I'm new here in MP.net.Just want to know more about the bleeding pattern camouflage.Who uses it in the Indonesian military,How did they come up with the pattern and a bit of history please.I like this pattern I think it's very unique.Thanks very much!:)

[Master Chief]

Just want to show to CrimsonPig (what a nice name, I hope it's your real name), the below pic shows the Marines' camo.



found the pics on the net:


http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/ahmadkhomaeni/nvgmarinir1.jpg

[gungho]

@ 501st > I don't think that's the same NVG used by the kopassus guys, it looks different but thanks anyway for sharing Pindad's own made NVGs

@ karbol > yup, that would come handy for nite skirmishes hehehe...

[equilibrium37]

hey guys i've got a quick question here; what the hell is "petrus" or who maybe ? I've been hearing that term or name over and over for the last couple of days and i have no idea what that means ..

[bambu runcing]

Petrus in bahasa was acronym for 'Penembakan Misterius' or Penembak Misterius. in English : mysterious shooting (assassination by gun). There were assassination (executor) squad from Polri (maybe TNI also) to eliminate all criminals, bad guys, gang members, thugs (preman, in bahasa) during 'Operasi Pemberantasan Kejahatan' (OPK) or Eradication of Crime Operation, in early 1980s. Maybe circa 1982-1983. It is called mysterious shooting because it was common in that time people in urban or rural area found dead bodies of known criminals being shot, but they didn't know who did it. Most of the victims was shot at point blank range, close distance. The operation was so effective even ordinary people who got tattoo on their body try to erase it, fear of mistakenly recognized as criminals and being targeted by PETRUS. But still no official record as how many criminals had been executed, but thousands thugs had disappeared. Yes it was against human rights but clearly it effective to suppress criminal rate. We were under oppressive regime though.... Maybe from those days Police can have control over gang members. Story about PETRUS being told by my father when I was a child, as a bedtime stories. One of prominent criminal executed in Yogyakarta (Central Java) during OPK was my father's friend in elementary school. He was shot while trying to cross Opak river in Bantul. I don't remember the name. In Jakarta, the most famous criminal was Kusni Kasdut, former paramilitary during Indonesian war of independence. But he was executed in 1980, before OPK. PS : the word PREMAN (local thug) was derived from Free Man In Central Java, especially Yogyakarta, they were called GALI (Gabungan Anak Liar) maybe in English translated as Wild Boys United.... :p
hey guys i've got a quick question here; what the hell is "petrus" or who maybe ? I've been hearing that term or name over and over for the last couple of days and i have no idea what that means ..

[Aghost]

Petrus in bahasa was acronym for 'Penembakan Misterius' or Penembak Misterius. in English : mysterious shooting (assassination by gun). There were assassination (executor) squad from Polri (maybe TNI also) to eliminate all criminals, bad guys, gang members, thugs (preman, in bahasa) during 'Operasi Pemberantasan Kejahatan' (OPK) or Eradication of Crime Operation, in early 1980s. Maybe circa 1982-1983. It is called mysterious shooting because it was common in that time people in urban or rural area found dead bodies of known criminals being shot, but they didn't know who did it. Most of the victims was shot at point blank range, close distance. The operation was so effective even ordinary people who got tattoo on their body try to erase it, fear of mistakenly recognized as criminals and being targeted by PETRUS. But still no official record as how many criminals had been executed, but thousands thugs had disappeared. Yes it was against human rights but clearly it effective to suppress criminal rate. We were under oppressive regime though.... Maybe from those days Police can have control over gang members. Story about PETRUS being told by my father when I was a child, as a bedtime stories. One of prominent criminal executed in Yogyakarta (Central Java) during OPK was my father's friend in elementary school. He was shot while trying to cross Opak river in Bantul. I don't remember the name. In Jakarta, the most famous criminal was Kusni Kasdut, former paramilitary during Indonesian war of independence. But he was executed in 1980, before OPK. PS : the word PREMAN (local thug) was derived from Free Man In Central Java, especially Yogyakarta, they were called GALI (Gabungan Anak Liar) maybe in English translated as Wild Boys United.... :p

Yeah PETRUS was so famous during that time (early 80's), and I was witnessed myself the victim of PETRUS. I am still on Elementary scholl at that time when my village was shocked by the finding of dead body with bullet hole in his chest, the body was wrapped with sack (Karung) so that it was known as KARUNGAN in my village because the victim will be dump in the nearest village and wrapped in sack. Mostly the dead body found by villager had tattoo and known as criminal. And oh yeah the victim found in my village still wear handcuffs, that's way we know the executor is.

http://www.vhrmedia.com/file_image/23636176748107d5910431.jpg

[ayanami_tard]

so petrus is basically a renegade defender of justice?

[ggk]

so petrus is basically a renegade defender of justice?

same happen in thailand, india and malaysia.....the crooks gone too far...threatening security forces family...the law took a short cut.

..in malaysia its known as 'clear'. when a suspect are too illusive..(licik).. Perintah Clear Suspek were given. Wham..dead criminal.

[bambu runcing]

I don't think renegade is proper word. They were dead squad 'officially' formed to exterminate criminals... they move under official (and secret) mission



so petrus is basically a renegade defender of justice?

[toukairin]

some trivia notes about PETRUS :
- In my discussion with an elder of mine, he said that during PETRUS, Jakarta especially was so safe, that you could ride a bus (Metromini to be precise) without worrying about Premans bullying and extorting the passengers.
- In one story, an infamous criminal is being released, transported by car. Inside, he (the one people scared of) begged to not release him. The police calmed him down, and told him to get out of the car. After he walk a few steps, the cops shouted "HEY, YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY!" and shot him dead. Then the event closed officially as "a prisoner is shot because he's trying to run away from the police custody".
- The iconic vehicle of the time (CMIIW) is Suzuki Jimny. It's a kind of jeep just right to carry and drop a body, after that the car speed off as fast as they can... then in the next morning, people would see dead bodies lying on the street.
- The tattooed people were so scared that at the time of PETRUS, they literally iron their tattoos off with an iron (the one you used to iron your shirt and pants). So that the tattoo isn't visible anymore.

[ayanami_tard]

like having licence to kill?

i somehow got a mixed feeling about this

[toukairin]

same happen in thailand, india and malaysia.....the crooks gone too far...threatening security forces family...the law took a short cut.

..in malaysia its known as 'clear'. when a suspect are too illusive..(licik).. Perintah Clear Suspek were given. Wham..dead criminal.

is it still happening until now?

[fcaesarn]

http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/politik/2009/08/28/brk,20090828-194930,id.html

Pindad Akui Kirim Senjata ke Filipina dan Mali

Jum'at, 28 Agustus 2009 | 14:53 WIB
http://image.tempointeraktif.com/?id=16914TEMPO Interaktif, Bandung - PT Perindustrian TNI-AD (Pindad), perusahaan spesialis alat-alat persenjataan berat, membantah menjual senjata secara ilegal ke Filipina. Pabrik senjata di Bandung ini hanya mengekspor senjata laras pendek ke Filipina dan laras panjang ke Mali. ”Kebetulan senjata pesanan pihak Mali berada dalam satu kapal dengan pesanan Filipina” kata Timbul Sitompul, Juru Bicara PT Pindad saat dihubungi Tempo di Bandung, Jumat (28/8).

Timbul menuturkan, perusahaannya menerima pesanan 10 pucuk Pistol P2 Pindad. Senjata laras pendek itu dipesan Persatuan Menembak Filipina. Pada saat yang bersamaan, Pindad akan mengirimkan pesanan dari Negara Mali, Afrika, sebanyak 100 pucuk senjata jenis SS1-V1 (Senjata Serbu 1 - Varian 1).

Pesanan Mali dimasukin dalam 20 kotak. Adapun untuk Filipina dalam satu kotak. Seluruh pesanan itu dikirim bersamaan dalam satu kapal. ”Sebelum ke Mali, (kapal)mampir sebentar ke Filipina. Barangnya ada dalam kapal itu. Mungkin prosedur dan miss komunikasi,” kata Timbul.

Timbul membantah, kiriman Pindad itu illegal. Semua senjata itu ada nomer serinya, berikut dokumen-dokumennya. Namun ia mengakui, sedang terjadi masalah dengan pihak Pabean Filipina dan kini sedang diselesaikan. ”Jadi itu legal, ada dokumennya. Tak benar seperti yang disebut koran kalau itu buatan Israel, itu (buatan) Pindad dan pesanan legal untuk Mali,” ujarnya lagi menegaskan.

Soal bagaimana kemudian ada beberapa peti kosong, Timbul mengaku tak tahu. Namun yang jelas, pihaknya kini sedang mengurus ke Pabean Filipina, berkaitan dengan pengiriman tersebut. Timbul menegaskan, dalam urusan pengiriman dan penjualan senjata, Pindad tak mau gegabah. Apalagi dokumen-dokumen jual beli yang disertakan, melibatkan izin dua negara.

Karenanya, ia membantah kemungkinan ada pihak ketiga yaitu sindikat pemasok bermain dalam kasus ini. Menurut Timbul, sertifikat kontrak jual beli mencantumkan dua negara. Berikut izin rekomendasi eks****ya juga tak gampang karena melalui izin dari Departemen Pertahanan. ”Dalam sertifikat (izin) diteken (pejabat level) Mayjen lo, tak bisa gegabah” ujarnya.

Meski begitu, Timbul mengakui, kalau dalam klausul kontrak, memang memungkinkan negara pembeli senjata pindad, menjual senjata itu ke pihak ketiga, tanpa perlu izin ke Indonesia. ”Memang tidak seperti di Amerika, kalau satu negara membeli senjata dan kemudian menjualnya kembali ke negara lain, harus mendapat izin dari Amerika,” ujarnya.

Timbul sendiri memastikan, nilai total seluruh senjata yang ”nyangkut” di Pabean Filipinan sendiri tidak besar. Pesanan senjata laras panjang untuk Mali senilai Rp 800 juta dan pistol untuk Filipina hanya Rp 60 juta.
Sebelumnya, seperti diberitakan media-media Filipina, pihak Pabean Filipina, pada Kamis (20/8) pekan lalu, telah menangkap sebuah kapal berbendara Panama dengan nama MV Captain Ufuk di pelabuhan Mariveles, Provinsi Bataan, utara Manila. Dari hasil penggeledahan diketahui kapal bernakhoda Jhon Lawrence, warga Afrika Selatan, tersebut membawa 20 kotak senjata laras panjang, pistol dan amunisinya. Dari hasil penyelidikan, senjata-senjata tersebut berjenis SS1-VI Pindad, buatan Pindad, Bandung, yang sedianya akan dikirim ke negara Mali dan sebagian ke Filipina. Semula, pihak Pabean Filipina menduga senjata-senjata ini ilegal.


Sorry, the news in Bahasa Indonesia..
The important is, Pindad legally export the rifle to the philipines and Mali.. The Philipines shooting federation ordered 10 Pindad's P-2 hand gun for sport uses, while the SS-1 V1, was ordered by Mali's Government for their army. Mali ordered 100 ss1-V1 rifles from Pindad. The ship will have Mali their second destination after The Philipines..

The custom resolution is still being processed right now..

[ggk]

the tatoo thing is true but only to some extent.... the Indonesian police actually did a profile for each criminal first before a hit was ordered.... this is to prevent accidentally killing innocence people.


is it still happening until now?

in malaysia?... well cant really answer that.

[Master Chief]

(1) Petrus was somewhat necessary at that particular time and it was so effective like a powerful vacuum-cleaner cleaning up dirty floor when the usual broom doesn't work anymore because the dirt was too stuborn and too much. You see what I'm sayin' ?
The death squad was recruited mainly from Polri reserse (undercover) unit & the Army which was dominantly from Sandi Yudha.

It was widely known as a black operation. The government never officially say yes or no, not until SBY mentioned it a couple of weeks ago in front of Kopassus.

The Punisher's Chief was Admiral (Ret) Sudomo, who is still alive today. You want to clear Petrus up ? This is the time to make him talk before he dies old.

(2) Petrus is the Indonesian word for Peter, the strongest but dumbest disciple of Jesus/Nabi Isa.



some trivia notes about PETRUS :
- In my discussion with an elder of mine, he said that during PETRUS, Jakarta especially was so safe, that you could ride a bus (Metromini to be precise) without worrying about Premans bullying and extorting the passengers.
- In one story, an infamous criminal is being released, transported by car. Inside, he (the one people scared of) begged to not release him. The police calmed him down, and told him to get out of the car. After he walk a few steps, the cops shouted "HEY, YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY!" and shot him dead. Then the event closed officially as "a prisoner is shot because he's trying to run away from the police custody".
- The iconic vehicle of the time (CMIIW) is Suzuki Jimny. It's a kind of jeep just right to carry and drop a body, after that the car speed off as fast as they can... then in the next morning, people would see dead bodies lying on the street.
- The tattooed people were so scared that at the time of PETRUS, they literally iron their tattoos off with an iron (the one you used to iron your shirt and pants). So that the tattoo isn't visible anymore.

[Jagi]

Sorry, the news in Bahasa Indonesia..
The important is, Pindad legally export the rifle to the philipines and Mali.. The Philipines shooting federation ordered 10 Pindad's P-2 hand gun for sport uses, while the SS-1 V1, was ordered by Mali's Government for their army. Mali ordered 100 ss1-V1 rifles from Pindad. The ship will have Mali their second destination after The Philipines..

The custom resolution is still being processed right now..

I saw the news about this on TV and they headlined it as "Kontroversi Senjata Israel" (Israeli Weapon Controversy) or something like that. Now what does this SS-1 smuggling news has got to do with Israeli guns,in this case Galil?

[Jagi]

like having licence to kill?

i somehow got a mixed feeling about this

Yup,they do have sort of license,so maybe it's better to call them "ALGOJO" rather than just some mysterious shooter...If i'm not mistaken their jurisdiction was not limited to crooks and gangs but all of those who oppose or even dare talking about Mr.S behind his back :-*$:-*$

[bambu runcing]

It is Philippine officer who mistakenly said that the SS-1 was Galil but manufactured in Indonesia. Those mistake quoted by Philippine local media and then quoted by Indonesian media and read by Indonesian authority such DPR.

DPR angry knowing Israeli weapon manufactured in Indonesia....:)
Finally the truth revealed. It is not Galil, but truly Pindad SS-1



I saw the news about this on TV and they headlined it as "Kontroversi Senjata Israel" (Israeli Weapon Controversy) or something like that. Now what does this SS-1 smuggling news has got to do with Israeli guns,in this case Galil?

[toukairin]

It is Philippine officer who mistakenly said that the SS-1 was Galil but manufactured in Indonesia. Those mistake quoted by Philippine local media and then quoted by Indonesian media and read by Indonesian authority such DPR.

DPR angry knowing Israeli weapon manufactured in Indonesia....:)
Finally the truth revealed. It is not Galil, but truly Pindad SS-1

And it's really telling us the (veery low) quality of our Representative. Hell ,they got Komisi 1 (Commission 1) PERTAHANAN (Defence), why the hell didn't they know the difference between Galil and SS-1?? It's our country's rifle for Pete's sake!

BTW I went to PINDAD one time... they got a sample Galil (for study), but because it's one of the first batch, it's still very rough... but nevertheless it's there, Israeli weapon in Indonesia. And nobody protested, right? :roll:

[junglejim]

And it's really telling us the (veery low) quality of our Representative. Hell ,they got Komisi 1 (Commission 1) PERTAHANAN (Defence), why the hell didn't they know the difference between Galil and SS-1?? It's our country's rifle for Pete's sake!

BTW I went to PINDAD one time... they got a sample Galil (for study), but because it's one of the first batch, it's still very rough... but nevertheless it's there, Israeli weapon in Indonesia. And nobody protested, right? :roll:


The mother of all cluster****s, hehe. Yeah the Philippine media started calling it a Galil, probably due to one of the Customs representative who was there and not familiar with the guns. Thing is, the ship started losing crates of these rifles before it even reached the port. Also if it was for Mali then the papers should have been filed with the customs. Still something very fishy on this incident.

[toukairin]

we'll see about that maybe in a few days or so. First i thought the lag between the findings and official statements is caused by the coordination between gov't agencies to say the same thing together (kinda like agreeing on which tire is flat when your parents asked you and your buddies what's taking you so long from school, when you're late in getting home...in reality you're playing games in the arcade or having a double date together).

it turned out... PINDAD and Dephan said different things. OK i know the "chain of command" isn't like Pindad answering to Dephan, but can't they sit together and think of how to answer the press together? d'oh!

[Jagi]

The mother of all cluster****s, hehe. Yeah the Philippine media started calling it a Galil, probably due to one of the Customs representative who was there and not familiar with the guns. Thing is, the ship started losing crates of these rifles before it even reached the port. Also if it was for Mali then the papers should have been filed with the customs. Still something very fishy on this incident.

At least this way we can get our guns promoted...though in a rather ridiculous manner:roll::roll::roll:

[junglejim]

we'll see about that maybe in a few days or so. First i thought the lag between the findings and official statements is caused by the coordination between gov't agencies to say the same thing together (kinda like agreeing on which tire is flat when your parents asked you and your buddies what's taking you so long from school, when you're late in getting home...in reality you're playing games in the arcade or having a double date together).

it turned out... PINDAD and Dephan said different things. OK i know the "chain of command" isn't like Pindad answering to Dephan, but can't they sit together and think of how to answer the press together? d'oh!

Yup, cause I think the defense attache of your country was already summoned by the Philippines to explain this incident. Dont think that they see it as something sinister yet since the two countries have enjoyed a very close relationship and actually open to help each other out.

[Jagi]

Supposedly,these guns were ordered by a private firm called RWB Inc. (Red White and Blue Incorporated) for the Philippines gov't. The orders were 10 P2s and 100 SS-1V1. This firm is said to be pretty well-known as arms supplier and already has the approval from the gov't as a third party to supply weapons for gov't use. Still,not much is known about the company itself

[toukairin]

Supposedly,these guns were ordered by a private firm called RWB Inc. (Red White and Blue Incorporated) for the Philippines gov't. The orders were 10 P2s and 100 SS-1V1. This firm is said to be pretty well-known as arms supplier and already has the approval from the gov't as a third party to supply weapons for gov't use. Still,not much is known about the company itself

Hahaha! Pindad told different story!

If i'm not wrong, pindad said that :
10 P2s --> for Filipino (private shooter??)
100 SS1 --> Mali armed forces

So... in my conclusin, this case is still not clear at all..

[junglejim]

Supposedly,these guns were ordered by a private firm called RWB Inc. (Red White and Blue Incorporated) for the Philippines gov't. The orders were 10 P2s and 100 SS-1V1. This firm is said to be pretty well-known as arms supplier and already has the approval from the gov't as a third party to supply weapons for gov't use. Still,not much is known about the company itself


Our army uses the M-16 rifle and have no plans in changing in the immediate future. SO I am not keen on buying that story.

[toukairin]

Some gallery based story :

Only in Indonesia, that this kind of news is in the official Army News Website :
http://www.tniad.mil.id/1berita.php?pil=8&dn=20090825145229
MAYOR JENDERAL TNI DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO PERINGATI HUT KE-24 PERNIKAHAN
(TNI Maj.Gen. DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO COMMEMORATES 24TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1917/ultahp5jaya.jpg


25-Aug-2009, 14:55:33WIB

Kasdam Jaya/Jayakarta Brigadir Jenderal TNI Moeldoko memimpin acara peringatan Hari Ulang Tahun ke-24 Pernikahan Pangdam Jaya/Jayakarta Mayor Jenderal TNI Darpito Pudyastungkoro dengan Ny. Tinuk Darpito Pudyastungkoro bertempat di Pondok Ranca Jl. Mahoni Jati Mulya Bekasi Timur, Selasa (25/8).

Hadir dalam acara tersebut Irdam Jaya, para Perwira Staf Ahli Pangdam Jaya, Para Komandan Korem Kodam Jaya, para Asisten Kasdam Jaya, Asisten Perencanaan Pangdam Jaya, Pa LO AL dan AU, Para Komandan Satuan Jajaran Kodam Jaya, para Kepala Badan Pelaksana jajaran Kodam Jaya yang seluruhnya didampingi para istri masing-masing serta para keluarga besar Pangdam Jaya dan rekan-rekan Pangdam Jaya.

Tujuan dari acara tersebut adalah untuk memantapkan keakraban yang selama ini sudah sangat baik terjalin baik dilingkungan tugas maupun keluarga. Acara ini diselenggarakan atas prakarsa Kasdam Jaya tanpa ada pemberitahuan terlebih dahulu kepada Pangdam Jaya dengan maksud untuk membuat sebuah kejutan atau surprise sehingga acara ini dapat dikenang sepanjang masa.

Acara dimulai dengan dibawanya Pangdam Jaya dari kediaman oleh staf pribadi beserta pengemudi, sedangkan Pangdam Jaya sama sekali tidak mengetahui akan dibawa kemana, bahkan Pangdam sendiri sangat asing sekali dengan route perjalanan. Sesampainya di tempat tujuan, Pangdam Jaya disambut oleh Kasdam Jaya dan baru mengetahui maksud dan tujuannya acara tersebut. Setelah seluruhnya berkumpul, Kasdam Jaya membuka acara, dalam sambutannya menyampaikan bahwa, acara ini sengaja kami selenggarakan tanpa ada pemberitahuan terlebih dahulu kepada Panglima dengan maksud membuat kejutan bagi bapak Panglima, selain itu acara ini dapat dijadikan contoh bagi kita semua dalam mengarungi bahtera rumah tangga sehingga dapat langgeng seperti bapak Panglima. Kami semua mengucapkan Selamat Hari Ulang Tahun ke-24 atas pernikahannya bapak Panglima semoga sehat dan bahagia dan selalu mendapat berkah dari Tuhan Yang Maha Esa, kata Kasdam Jaya. Selanjutnya Kasdam Jaya memberikan hadiah ulang tahun yang berbentuk karikatur kepada Panglima dan Ibu.

Pada sambutannya Pangdam Jaya menyampaikan, ucapan terima kasih yang sebesar-besarnya atas dilaksanakan acara ini yang bagi saya sangat surprise dan cukup mengejutkan serta sangat merasa tersanjung, ternyata ada yang sangat memperhatikan tentang hari ulang tahun pernikahan saya. Acara hari ulang tahun ke-24 pernikahan Mayor Jenderal TNI Darpito Pudyastungkoro dengan Ny. Tinuk Darpito pada puncaknya ditandai dengan peniupan lilin dan pemotongan kue ulang tahun dan pemberian ucapan selamat oleh seluruh yang hadir dalam acara tersebut dan acara dilanjutkan dengan persembahan lagu dari putra tertua Pangdam Jaya dan selanjutnya acara ramah tamah. (Pendam Jaya/Dispenad)


Sorry it's in Bahasa. The point that the Jakarta Military Region (JMR) Commander Maj.Gen. Darpito Pudyastungkoro commemorates his 24th wedding anniversary, led by his chief of staff TNI Brig.Gen. Moeldoko. It's a surprise party initiated by the JMR Chief of Staff. Then Brig.Gen.Moeldoko gave a wedding gift of caricature to the JMR Commander and his wife Mrs. Tinuk Darpito.

[toukairin]

After 9 pages of army news that's only related to misc.activities and NOT exercises/training/etc, there's a news about Army Military Academy cadets doing a Platoon Tactical Exercise.

http://www.tniad.mil.id/1berita.php?pil=19&dn=20090821205808
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2073/wagublatiston.jpg

AKADEMI MILITER GELAR LATIHAN TAKTIS PELETON
(Army Military Academy Held Platoon Tactical Exercise)
Oleh : Akmil



24-Aug-2009, 10:31:57WIB

Taruna Akademi Militer mengikuti Upacara pemberangkatan Latihan Taktis Peleton di Lapangan Pancasila, Akmil, Jumat (21/8). Bertindak sebagai Inspektur Upacara pada Gelar upacara pemberangkatan Latikan ini, Wakil Gubernur Akademi Militer, Brigjen TNI Zulkarnen Pane, yang secara resmi mewakili Gubernur Akmil, membuka Latihan Taktis Peleton .

Hadir dalam upacara tersebut para pejabat teras Akmil, para Perwira dan Pengasuh Akmil. Kegiatan ini diikuti oleh sejumlah 276 orang Taruna Tingkat 4 (Sermatutar/Batalyon Taruna Dewasa) Akmil .

Dalam Amanatnya yang dibacakan oleh Brigjen TNI Zulkarnaen Pane, Gubernur Akademi Militer, Mayjen TNI Sabar Yudo Suroso menyampaikan bahwa Latihan itu penting, bukan yang penting latihan. Dari latihan tersebut diharapkan para Taruna dapat memiliki dasar pengetahuan, gambaran dan pengalaman yang nantinya sangat bermanfaat bagi tugas yang diemban di masa mendatang. Pengalaman-pengalaman dari latihan tersebut agar dapat dijadikan dasar dalam melaksanakan latihan-latihan selanjutnya. Ditengah amanatnya Gubernur juga memerintahkan agar para Taruna senantiasa selalu menjaga keamanan, baik personel maupun material, dengan selalu memohon petunjuk, perlindungan dan bimbingan dari Allah SWT, Tuhan Yang Maha Esa.


Sesuai dengan rencana Kurikulum yang telah diprogramkan, latihan ini akan berlangsung sampai dengan 28 Agustus 2009 dilaksanakan di wilayah Loano (Purworejo) dan sekitarnya. Para Taruna tersebut selama latihan ini akan memperoleh materi latihan sebagai berikut, Operasi lawan Gerilya (Ops Wan Ger), Perlawanan Penghadangan Kendaraan (Wan Dang Ran), Taktik Peleton Senapan (Tiktonpan) dalam pertahanan dan Taktik Peleton Senapan (Tiktonpan) dalam serangan. Latihan ini memiliki arti penting bagi para Taruna Tingkat tersebut yang nantinya akan menjabat Komandan Peleton (Danton) setelah menyelesaikan pendidikannya di Akmil, Pada awal penugasannya sebagai Perwira TNI AD. Disamping itu, latihan ini bertujuan untuk meningkatkan penguasaan dan kemampuan taktik dan teknik tempur tingkat peleton, naluri lapangan, dan kepemimpinan lapangan. (Pen Humas Akmil/Dispenad)


Points in the news :
- The exercise is followed by 276 Senior year Cadets (Cadet Sergeant Major)
- The training is held from 21-28 August 2009 in the Loano (Purworejo) area.
- The training materials for the exercise is as follows :
>Counter Guerilla Ops
>Vehicle Ambush Resistance (i dunno the perfect translation, it's a training for the soldiers to be able to fight if they're ambushed when inside vehicles)
>Rifle Platoon Tactics (defence)
>Rifle Platoon Tactics (offence)

- The objective of the exercise is to increase mastery and ability in battle tactics and techniques at platoon level, field instinct, and field leadership.

[bambu runcing]

You right dude.
Mr Timbul Sitombul, media relations of Pindad said so

The ship (MV Ufuk) bound for Mali but they transit in Manila first.
So, when administration paper in Manila didn't work well, they were searched by Philippine Custom and in aboard were found legal 100 SS-1 rifle for Mali along with legal 10 P2 pistol for a Philippine shooter club.

Mr Toukarin, I think it's not solely our DPR members mistake for they cannot differ between Galil and SS-1 as the news coming to Indonesia without any photograph/picture.

It was Koran Tempo who quoted the The Philippines Daily Inquirer who quoted Fernandino Tuason, head of investigation and intelligence service in Philippine Custom and Excise. And I think the suspect of this messy is Mr Tuason.....
Without any thorough verification and investigation (as his proper duty), Tuason invite media to expose their catch and boasting the ship maybe part of international gun smuggler syndicate

He wish for promotion.... but maybe only get screwed..................:)



Hahaha! Pindad told different story!

If i'm not wrong, pindad said that :
10 P2s --> for Filipino (private shooter??)
100 SS1 --> Mali armed forces

So... in my conclusin, this case is still not clear at all..

[junglejim]

You right dude.
Mr Timbul Sitombul, media relations of Pindad said so

The ship (MV Ufuk) bound for Mali but they transit in Manila first.
So, when administration paper in Manila didn't work well, they were searched by Philippine Custom and in aboard were found legal 100 SS-1 rifle for Mali along with legal 10 P2 pistol for a Philippine shooter club.

Mr Toukarin, I think it's not solely our DPR members mistake for they cannot differ between Galil and SS-1 as the news coming to Indonesia without any photograph/picture.

It was Koran Tempo who quoted the The Philippines Daily Inquirer who quoted Fernandino Tuason, head of investigation and intelligence service in Philippine Custom and Excise. And I think the suspect of this messy is Mr Tuason.....
Without any thorough verification and investigation (as his proper duty), Tuason invite media to expose their catch and boasting the ship maybe part of international gun smuggler syndicate

He wish for promotion.... but maybe only get screwed..................:)


Actually, if the ship were carrying those weapons but no proper papers were filed, they will get detained. The shipping company should have fixed the papers first.

[CrimsonPig]

Ok, for a quick reply, I'd have to answer only one of your question. The "Darah Mengalir" (lit. "Streaming Blood" or "Bleeding") is a distinct camo pattern belonging to Indonesian Army's elite Special Forces, the KOPASSUS (Komando Pasukan Khusus or Special Forces Commando).

The pattern is only used during the unit's internal events, activities inside the "ksatrian" (HQ), etc. It cannot be used for general purposes, because the rule dictates so. KOPASSUS has to wear the TNI Camo (Malvinas) in other activities.

About the history.... I'd have to go check it in a magazine, it's in my campus so i have to go and fetch it...

Terima Kasih sir Toukairin.Thank you for the info.

[CrimsonPig]

Just want to show to CrimsonPig (what a nice name, I hope it's your real name), the below pic shows the Marines' camo.

Terima kasih Master Chief.Thanks very much for the info.I've been dreaming of having the bleeding camo pattern for my small collection of BDU's.I see that you find my MP.net name nice:).

[fcaesarn]

Some gallery based story :

Only in Indonesia, that this kind of news is in the official Army News Website :
http://www.tniad.mil.id/1berita.php?pil=8&dn=20090825145229
MAYOR JENDERAL TNI DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO PERINGATI HUT KE-24 PERNIKAHAN
(TNI Maj.Gen. DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO COMMEMORATES 24TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1917/ultahp5jaya.jpg



Sorry it's in Bahasa. The point that the Jakarta Military Region (JMR) Commander Maj.Gen. Darpito Pudyastungkoro commemorates his 24th wedding anniversary, led by his chief of staff TNI Brig.Gen. Moeldoko. It's a surprise party initiated by the JMR Chief of Staff. Then Brig.Gen.Moeldoko gave a wedding gift of caricature to the JMR Commander and his wife Mrs. Tinuk Darpito.


It will become military infotainment..

[fcaesarn]

Can anyone here ID this vehicle???
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6677/pelepasandankormar28080.jpg

[FlintHillBilly]

Can anyone here ID this vehicle???

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6677/pelepasandankormar28080.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6677/pelepasandankormar28080.jpg)

Looks like a humvee to me.....unless im missing something.

[Aghost]

Can anyone here ID this vehicle???
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6677/pelepasandankormar28080.jpg


Let me guess, I think it could be Bhirawa, locally made humvee by the "Pupuk Kaltim" (Government fertilizer factory). Because I've never heard TNI purchase humvee from US.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8697/bhirawa2tp1.jpg

[karbol]

- In one story, an infamous criminal is being released, transported by car. Inside, he (the one people scared of) begged to not release him. The police calmed him down, and told him to get out of the car. After he walk a few steps, the cops shouted "HEY, YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY!" and shot him dead. Then the event closed officially as "a prisoner is shot because he's trying to run away from the police custody".

this one is not a 'PETRUS'... and believe me, this think still happen right now. if you watch criminal program on tv, this is what really happened... the police wants to give the TV cameramen/reporter a good show. on the other hand, the TV's Cameramen/reporter need a good show...

so they just said: "...801 aja ndan...!!.."

[Jagi]

Our army uses the M-16 rifle and have no plans in changing in the immediate future. SO I am not keen on buying that story.

Absolutely,maybe the SS-1s are just additional inventories to complement the M-16...maybe...anyways the info about the third party is from the interview on metro with a representative of Pindad

[Jagi]

Let me guess, I think it could be Bhirawa, locally made humvee by the "Pupuk Kaltim" (Government fertilizer factory). Because I've never heard TNI purchase humvee from US.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8697/bhirawa2tp1.jpg

It could be a Bhirawa but it's also possible that it's a Humvee or even a Hummer H1 purchased in a tiny number...whi knows:-(:-(:-(

[ZAYYANA]

Anybody know the story of Hummvee in Indonesian Armed forces....?

[sunsettowner]

Looks like a humvee to me.....unless im missing something.

second that, look at the detail:
geared hub front transmission, >> bhirawa still uses conventional axle
winch, >> gak ada di bhirawa
black light (to drive without bright headlamp, i don't know the exact name) on the left (driver) side >> bhirawa punya di kanan

[toukairin]

news : one of the my mailing list members said that it's a civilian Humvee, donned and painted in TNI camo. It's only used by the TNI just for that occasion.

[ayanami_tard]

^hummer H1?

[karbol]

hmmm... so it must be very-very rare HUMVEE. a Limited edition, The Ceremony Humvee...rofl

[hawkeye88]

news : one of the my mailing list members said that it's a civilian Humvee, donned and painted in TNI camo. It's only used by the TNI just for that occasion.

Maybe you got the wrong information. Hummer doesn't make any civilian version for that open-top Humvee.

If you ask, maybe they modify it?? I don't think so.

Since when our TNI camo follows US Woodland camo??
Thant's not TNI camo, noob..

google it!

There are several posibilities:
1. They bought it
2. Copy it (local humvee: Bhirawa - but, we dont find any similarities)
3. Asset transfer from the US? Maybe a present for conducting joint exercise since Indonesian Marines & USMC have been enjoying their close relationships :)

Either no.1 or 3, I guess...

[hawkeye88]

hmmm... so it must be very-very rare HUMVEE. a Limited edition, The Ceremony Humvee...rofl
That's not limited edition. That humvee is one of the standard issue model being used by the US military. I thing they just modified it by adding handle at the right side of the vehicle.

[hawkeye88]

^hummer H1?

Maybe??
But why we have it in US camo?????????
WHY??

If that is H1, why it got black lamp for night vision purpose on the left corner of the vehicle, just beside the turning lamp.

It is obviously Humvee, not Hummer!

The main things we have to consider:
1. Why using US camo?
2. How can it be right driving position?

Actually these 2 things contradicts each other.

If it is from the US, it shud be left driving position.
If it is from outside of the US, it shud be in non- US camo.

hmmm...

[karbol]

^^ooh man... dont be so serious bro...

as toukairin said, it was borrowed from civilian, and paint it and modify it only for ceremony purpose...

thats why i said, it was a very limited edition Humvee... UP CEREMONY HUMVEE..rofl

[hawkeye88]

^^ooh man... dont be so serious bro...

as toukairin said, it was borrowed from civilian, and paint it and modify it only for ceremony purpose...

thats why i said, it was a very limited edition Humvee... UP CEREMONY HUMVEE..rofl

really??prove it then..

why they paint it in US camo??

borrowed from a civilian, modify it & use it only for a ceremony??

lol...

[karbol]

really??prove it then..

why they paint it in US camo??

borrowed from a civilian, modify it & use it only for a ceremony??

lol...

it is LOL... go ask the marine your self...

[hawkeye88]

it is LOL... go ask the marine your self...

lol & LOL... not much difference.

Yeah, I wish I could

[Aghost]

Guys you should post new picture in this thread than flame unproductive debate...

Karbol usually you come up with fresh picture... please post it to us.

[hawkeye88]

Guys you should post new picture in this thread than flame unproductive debate...

Karbol usually you come up with fresh picture... please post it to us.

agree.. maybe he is just getting out of gud pix...

lolz

[Master Chief]

Judging from more pics below, I don't think it's a real Humvee. Forget about the camo paint. TNI so far do not have a standard camo for their vehicles. Any units can paint any camo they want.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar1.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar3.jpg

The Marines normally use this below jeep. Now it's a real trully Humvee, no doubt, no question, no LOL, please...
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar4.jpg


Can anyone here ID this vehicle???
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6677/pelepasandankormar28080.jpg

[ZAYYANA]

More pics please....

[karbol]

Guys you should post new picture in this thread than flame unproductive debate...

Karbol usually you come up with fresh picture... please post it to us.


agree.. maybe he is just getting out of gud pix...

lolz

yeah... sometimes, i'm getting out of good pics. no good events coming up. ... hmmm.... harus bongkar hardisk dulu bro..

oya, about the Humvee, Nata might be know the truth... where is Nata?

[toukairin]

Maybe you got the wrong information. Hummer doesn't make any civilian version for that open-top Humvee.

If you ask, maybe they modify it?? I don't think so.

Since when our TNI camo follows US Woodland camo??
Thant's not TNI camo, noob..

google it!

There are several posibilities:
1. They bought it
2. Copy it (local humvee: Bhirawa - but, we dont find any similarities)
3. Asset transfer from the US? Maybe a present for conducting joint exercise since Indonesian Marines & USMC have been enjoying their close relationships :)

Either no.1 or 3, I guess...

sorry, i misquote my fren, he said it was donned in a NATO-like camo, hehehe... thanks for the correction.

[toukairin]

Ok, i'm gonna go with news from the Korps Marinir.

Some of the interesting news :

http://www.marinir.mil.id/berita.php?id=20090820125042
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5111/pecahbatu.jpg
PRAJURIT ARHANUD-2 MARINIR PECAHKAN BATU DENGAN KEPALA
(MARINE 2-ARHANUD SOLDIERS BREAK STONE WITH HEAD)

*ARHANUD : ARtileri pertaHANan UDara - Air Defence Artillery (ADA)

[20-Agustus-2009]Jakarta, 20 Agustus 2009

Dalam rangka membina serta menyiapkan kemampuan profesional prajurit Marinir dalam mendukung tugas pokoknya, menjaga keutuhan serta mempertahankan Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia dari segala ancaman, tiap-tiap satuan di jajaran Korps Marinir dituntut untuk membina dan menyiapkan para prajuritnya, dengan kemampuan bela diri. Demikian juga, dengan prajurit-prajurit di Batalyon Arhanud-2 Marinir, saat ini, mereka telah memiliki dan membina kemampuan Bela Diri Karate dengan bergabung dalam Wadah Dojo Lemkari.

Sementara itu, di Arhanud-2 Mar, sebagai benteng dari dalam, para prajuritnya dibekali kemampuan pernapasan. ”Hal ini guna menambah kekuatan dan kesehatan sehingga disegani lawan”, tegas Komandan Arhanud-2 Mar.

Dalam Aksinya, unjuk kemampuan bela diri ini ditampilkan dalam suatu rangkaian kegiatan Ulang Tahun Arhanud Marinir ke-46 di Kesatrian Marinir Cilandak, melalui suatu peragaan yang dilakukan sendiri oleh Pratu Mar Supriyadi dengan memecahkan batu menggunakan kepala. Ia juga memperagakan kepalanya ditumpuk dengan 5 buah batu bata yang kemudian dipukul palu. Hasilnya, hancurlah batu bata tersebut tanpa mencederai kepalanya.

Kemampuan ini perlu diteladani dan diikuti oleh seluruh prajurit Korps Marinir sehingga menjadi prajurit yang disegani dan ditakuti Lawan. Demikian yang disampaikan oleh Komandan Batalyon Arhanud-2 Marinir Letkol Marinir Budiarso saat dikonfirmasi tim liput Dispen Korps Marinir.

Points :
- It is done as a part of the Marine training in martial art of Karate, Dojo LEMKARI
- It is performed in the 46th Birthday of the Marine ADA in Marine HQ Cilandak, done by Marine PFC Supriyadi by breaking stones with his head. He also demonstrated 5 bricks stacked on his head, then the bricks were hit with hammer. The bricks were destroyed and his head left unscathed.
- Batt.Commander of the 2-Marine ADA, Marine LTC Budiarso said that this ability has to be taken as example and followed by all the soldiers of the Marine Corps, so they become soldiers respected and feared by the enemy.



http://www.marinir.mil.id/berita.php?id=20090820130431

PRAJURIT YONMARHANLAN IX JUARA BODY CONTEST
(SOLDIER OF THE YONMARHANLAN IX IS A CHAMPION OF BODY CONTEST)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7610/binaraga.jpg


*YONMARHANLAN : Batalyon Marinir Pertahanan Pangkalan (Naval Base Defence Marine Battalion)

[20-Agustus-2009]Jakarta, 20 Agustus 2009

Salah seorang prajurit Yonmarhanlan IX berhasil menjadi juara dalam kejuaraan Binaraga dan Body Contest Piala Wagub Maluku pada tanggal 15 Agustus 2009. Kejuaraan ini dilaksanakan dalam rangka memeriahkan peringatan Kemerdekaan RI ke–64 dan mempertandingkan Binaraga kelas 55/60, 65/70 dan 70+ serta body contest untuk kelas bebas. Kejuaraan ini diikuti 34 peserta dari Maluku. Sedangkan Papua yang diselenggarakan Gymnasium Babuku, yang mendatangkan bintang tamu Ade Ray sebagai tim juri.

Pratu Marinir Acep Febrianto menjadi juara 1 pada body cantest kelas bebas serta juara harapan 1 untuk Binaraga kelas 65/70. Olah raga Binaraga ini mulai digeluti Pratu Mar Acep sejak Juni 2008 dengan bergabung pada Gym Fla Fitness di daerah Ambon. Hal ini merupakan salah satu kegiatan positif yang dipilihnya.

Dengan menggeluti cabang Olahraga ini, Ia dapat menyalurkan kegiatan diluar jam dinas ke hal-hal yang positif. Beberapa kejuaraan telah diikutinya, antara lain Body contest pada November 2008 menjadi juara harapan 1, Body contest pada bulan februari 2009 menjadi 6 besar, L-men of the year pada bulan april 2009 di Surabaya masuk 30 besar dan Men Health Mei 2009 di Surabaya masuk 16 besar.

Pratu Mar Acep adalah anak pertama dari 2 bersaudara pasangan Serka Marinir Sapta Tohar yang berdinas di Kompi Markas Yonif 5 dan Lilis Hendrawati yang memiliki usaha kantin di Yonif 5 mar. Pratu Mar Acep, mengawali karir sebagai Tamtama di Kompi G Yonif 5 Mar pada bulan Maret 2006. Berdinas di Yonif 5, sejak tahun 2006 sampai dengan Agustus 2007. Pratu Mar Acep merupakan salah satu atlet Binsat Batalyon. “Dengan adanya mutasi besar-besaran di tubuh Korps Marinir dengan pembentukan Yonmarhanlan, maka Ia mendapat penugasan di Yonmarhanlan IX Ambon”, tegasnya.

Dengan menggeluti olahraga ini, Pratu Mar Acep tetap mampu memelihara kebugaran fisiknya sebagai prajurit. Dalam kegiatan Samapta dan kegiatan fisik lainnya, Ia selalu menjadi yang terdepan.

Points :
- Marine PFC Acep Febrianto became champion in Body Building and Body Contest Championship - Vice Governor of Maluku Cup. He came 1st in free style class body contest and 4th in 65/70 class.
- PFC Acep started the sport in June 2008 after joining the Fla Fitness Gym in Ambon.
- Aside from this event, his performances are : Nov'08 Body Contest - 4th, Feb'09 Body Contest - Top 6, L-Men of the Year April'09 - Top 30, Men Health May'09 Surabaya City - Top 16
- He's always the top in Samapta (Physical Test) and other physical activities because of this sport.

[fcaesarn]

Judging from more pics below, I don't think it's a real Humvee. Forget about the camo paint. TNI so far do not have a standard camo for their vehicles. Any units can paint any camo they want.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar1.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar3.jpg

The Marines normally use this below jeep. Now it's a real trully Humvee, no doubt, no question, no LOL, please...
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar4.jpg

I feel that there is something wrong or gone with that hmmv.... so i think it's not 100% hmvv.. LoL..

[ZAYYANA]

I though Humvee Military driver are in the left....??

[Dark Avenger]

AMG does make a version of the HMMWV for users that drive on the wrong side of the road (i.e. driver sits on the right). That other jeep (the Marine one) looks to me like a KIA 422.

[karbol]

talk about korps marinir... the commander of Korps Marinir have been hand over into Brigjen (mar) Alfan Baharudin. Brigjen Alfan known as a true fighter, also he was a former Denjaka Commander...

SELAMAT BERTUGAS PAK! JALESU BHUMYAMCA JAYAMAHE!!

[Aghost]

MAYOR JENDERAL TNI DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO PERINGATI HUT KE-24 PERNIKAHAN
(TNI Maj.Gen. DARPITO PUDYASTUNGKORO COMMEMORATES 24TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1917/ultahp5jaya.jpg

They held party for their boss wedding birthday and put it on official military website...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/HumveeKormar3.jpg
Look at the banner, what the...... they held official military ceremony complete with the armament to say good bye to their general and his wife, just for the transfer to the new assignment. It's too personal... look like they worship their boss, it's not good for the leadership, they should respect their boss properly.

Then when the boss retired he will get post power sindrom and couldn't assimilate with his social environment.

[toukairin]

aghost, wayy to naive, the generals would already prepare for the post TNI life. that's why many of them gather riches as much as possible to compensate for the post-soldier life, hehehe... and if lucky, the government would put them in BUMNs as Komisaris so that they'd stay on a cushy seat.

any 3-4 stars TNI generals that is a poor guy? don't think so... they're all damn rich!

[Master Chief]

A friend of mine , lives in south of Jakarta, once he told me that he has a neighbor, an ex-Pangdam Kodam Jaya, now works in Cilangkap. In his big house's big garage: a Range Rover, a Pajero, a Toyota Harier, a Mitsubishi sedan, sometimes a Grand Cherokee and a few more. Some have Cilangkap plate, some are private properties.

Yes, maybe the armed forces budget is far from ideal , but this is just enough to make the generals very wealthy. :bash:
The story regarding generals from Polri is even more scary.


aghost, wayy to naive, the generals would already prepare for the post TNI life. that's why many of them gather riches as much as possible to compensate for the post-soldier life, hehehe... and if lucky, the government would put them in BUMNs as Komisaris so that they'd stay on a cushy seat.

any 3-4 stars TNI generals that is a poor guy? don't think so... they're all damn rich!

[Master Chief]

We saw SBY in Kopassus uniform. Below SBY in other SF uniforms
(Man, he must be the world's best Special Forces soldier):

Marines:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/SBYKormar.jpg

Korpaskhas:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/SBYKorpaskhas2.jpg

[toukairin]

yeah, and he got all that after getting that big tummy...

are all the skill patches on his chest etc are real? because all the emblem placements are basically the same when he wears the kopaskhas and marine uniform...

in US, the triple canopy is got after getting the ranger, airborne and commando tab (CMIIW). Well, what's the English for FOUR emblems stacked together? ;p

[karbol]

found it... an old commercial for FNC/SS-1 made in PINDAD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/FNCSS-1iklan.jpg

[gungho]

nice one karbol.. loved them classic photo shoots..

[bambu runcing]

saw them last time in TSM magazine, when I was still innocent boy....
20 year ago I suppose...
Aaah good old days.... I missed TSM mags, nothing compare to them now.
Not Commando, not Defender !!



found it... an old commercial for FNC/SS-1 made in PINDAD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/FNCSS-1iklan.jpg

[msam13]

We saw SBY in Kopassus uniform. Below SBY in other SF uniforms
(Man, he must be the world's best Special Forces soldier):

Marines:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/SBYKormar.jpg

Korpaskhas:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/SBYKorpaskhas2.jpg


Guys, I really against all this symbolic gift by our special force. How come someone that easily get all those badge without even sweating?, look at his uniform, kopaska, paskhas, and kopassus, etc. The army need to look back at all those brave men who have the skill and fought to get the special force badge. Well, just my pov..

[Master Chief]

I think I had seen this ad long time ago; a pure FN's FNC, without Pindad logo on it.


found it... an old commercial for FNC/SS-1 made in PINDAD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/FNCSS-1iklan.jpg

[karbol]

^^see the writing on right below corner... it said: PINDA.....

[Master Chief]

Old pictures of Raider.
Source: Commando.

Raider shoulder patches (reminiscent of US Army Rangers)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider2.jpg

Normal uniform (that digital disruptive pattern camo is awesome)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider1.jpg

Gultor (the shoulder pad looks like a home made)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider3.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider7.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider8.jpg

Gultor squad in practice
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider6.jpg

Rapid force
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider10.jpg

Vietnam style
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider11.jpg

Parade
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider12.jpg

Marine assault
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider13.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider9.jpg

Jungle warfare (he's a rare lefty soldier)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider4.jpg

Sniper (another rare lefty soldier)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Raider5.jpg

[toukairin]

some points :
i think it's talked about in this forum or the other, that TNI is making a mistake in understanding the concept of pixel pattern. OK, i dunno that much either, but i know that blurring the original TNI uniform into a pixelated version is not a real pixel pattern concept, comparing to other countries' concept of pixel pattern (micro pattern combined into a macro pattern).

also it's not anti terrorist but COUNTER terrorist. Anti terrorism is the work of the intelligence.

[Ominae]

Man I sure love those Raider digital camos. I wish I can have one for airsoft wargaming... :D

[karbol]

Man I sure love those Raider digital camos. I wish I can have one for airsoft wargaming... :D

go to Bandung, and ask Toukairin to be your guide... you will find it a lot...:)

[gungho]

I still wonder why on earth does TNI have red colored rank insignia patches?? it's too contrasting, especially when in jungle warfare that little red stripe could give position away don't you think??

as for the raider digital pattern, I agree with toukairin, it's just basically three different colors combined making a whole lot micro pattern.. and the green is too strong I think, it should be more earthy green rather than bright green

[gungho]

Guys, I really against all this symbolic gift by our special force. How come someone that easily get all those badge without even sweating?, look at his uniform, kopaska, paskhas, and kopassus, etc. The army need to look back at all those brave men who have the skill and fought to get the special force badge. Well, just my pov..

I share the same sentiment bro.. but then again this is Indonesia, over respect to superior is the custom in practice :|

[mahawarman]

Hello there, i have difficulties on find Densus 88 HiRes pic in full gear, coz when i saw them in Temanggung Operation, they seems used MICH Style helmet but no MSA or SDS product, seems Armourshield Helmet and CIRAS Vest in black colour with DAPS...

Does any one has their pics?

[mahawarman]

Man I sure love those Raider digital camos. I wish I can have one for airsoft wargaming... :D

Well if you not able to buy the set of the uniform, you can buy the fabric, its ripstop materials and you can made a custom BDU not strictly follow the Kostrad Raiders cut :)

[mahawarman]

I still wonder why on earth does TNI have red colored rank insignia patches?? it's too contrasting, especially when in jungle warfare that little red stripe could give position away don't you think??

as for the raider digital pattern, I agree with toukairin, it's just basically three different colors combined making a whole lot micro pattern.. and the green is too strong I think, it should be more earthy green rather than bright green


If you learn details, it seems became a character style for south east asia countries armed forces to use colourfull insignia, coz being in military or law enforcement gives powerfull and intimidate looks to civilians i guess

[mahawarman]

I feel that there is something wrong or gone with that hmmv.... so i think it's not 100% hmvv.. LoL..


Well actually, in 2000, Indonesia has been given about 50 -70 Hummvee by US DoD, and those vehicle was parked in Kostrad Bekang division for a week for a general check testing , after a week passed by, my friend who lives in military area cannot located those Hummvee in Kostrad Bekang anymore. But sum times we seen those in a highway passed by our car, line up around 2 or 3 hummvee

[Master Chief]

More old pics regarding TNI Sniper, from Angkasa.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper6.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper5.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper3.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper1.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper4.jpg

[bambu runcing]

Mosin Nagant squad lead the way ... LoL
Minggir...minggiiiirr ..... !!

From which unit are those guys ??


More old pics regarding TNI Sniper, from Angkasa.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Sniper1.jpg

[gungho]

^^^
I think they're from raiders, seen somewhere in Commando's special edition about Kostrad units..

[gungho]

Hello there, i have difficulties on find Densus 88 HiRes pic in full gear, coz when i saw them in Temanggung Operation, they seems used MICH Style helmet but no MSA or SDS product, seems Armourshield Helmet and CIRAS Vest in black colour with DAPS...

Does any one has their pics?

really? cos I was wondering the same thing, seen some Den88 guys wearing new helmets and I thought it was MICH.. and you were sure it was black CIRAS, cos they're quite rare if it's by EI.. for all I know, all den88 uses BHI products for their gears


If you learn details, it seems became a character style for south east asia countries armed forces to use colourfull insignia, coz being in military or law enforcement gives powerfull and intimidate looks to civilians i guess

haha.. I suppose so, menacing appearance over the civilians is more considered than being stealthy in the jungle environment

[ggk]

haha.. I suppose so, menacing appearance over the civilians is more considered than being stealthy in the jungle environment


Usually they cover their insignia with black tape in jungle ops.

[Ominae]

Well if you not able to buy the set of the uniform, you can buy the fabric, its ripstop materials and you can made a custom BDU not strictly follow the Kostrad Raiders cut :)

Let me know where. Thanks for the alternate heads up. :)

[toukairin]

Man I sure love those Raider digital camos. I wish I can have one for airsoft wargaming... :D

sir, the consensus of the airsoft communities here, NEVER WEAR A TNI BDU, at any time, any where... :)

raider camo included. at one time, there is this one guy, caught in the photo, wearing TNI Raider Camo BDU. Well, you can imagine the repercussion by the guys in the airsoft communities...

But if you're using it in another country, well that's another story ;p

mahawarman, from what battalion are you??

[Ominae]

I plan to play airsoft somewhere else though. Thanks for the concern, toukairin.

Hoping to see more of the Raider digital camos.

[Master Chief]

Let me get it straight about this ad. This is not a Pindad SS1 ad, actually it is FN FNC ad back in 1987. I saw it in a magazine called Military Technology; the ad didn't have Pindad logo on it. Even at that time pindad had not named it SS1.

Anyway, it's a good ad. Below a better version of the ad found from one of my old TSM mags.
Save it in your computer before my photobucket is out of space!

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Archives/FNFNCad.jpg


found it... an old commercial for FNC/SS-1 made in PINDAD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/FNCSS-1iklan.jpg

[Master Chief]

From TSM mag, 1987, an old CN-235 ad.
Again, actually the ad was made by CASA. Then they stamped IPTN logo on it (oh I miss that logo).

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Archives/CN235ad.jpg

[Master Chief]

Same from TSM, it's Pindad ad.
The assault rifle was still called FNC, not SS1.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Archives/Pindadad1987.jpg

[Master Chief]

Actually TNI have got the dress code regulating these insignia.
On some newer BDU, all patches are in black color (subdued variant) already.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/Korpaskhas13.jpg



Usually they cover their insignia with black tape in jungle ops.

[Ominae]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v610/132/48/1274792739/n1274792739_178685_7704.jpg

ANSWER: The APC is based on an Israeli design but is Jordanian-built. It is called the Vigor (the Israeli design is called the Wolf)... We could not buy the truck if it was made in Israel so Jordan bought a license from Yahudi land to able to sell it to countries that do not recognise Israel... Apparently the vehicle has awesome shock absorbers, GPS, radar, tiptronic gearbox and can transport 12 pers..

http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v323/131/112/1061012916/n1061012916_30123912_6547.jpg
Vigor

Wolf

Sorry for being too late on this, but who is the producer for the Vigor again? I'm confused. Haven't heard of this. Even an article in the internet.

[karbol]

here we go again...:-(

Indonesia Navy Nomad crashed at east borneo. 5 people died, 4 wounded...

R.I.P....:-(:-(

[gungho]

OMG, not again... RIP to the fallen...

[Master Chief]

Check this out, Dude :
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/light_combat_vehicles/wolf/wolf.htm

It's a Ford truck.
It would be much wiser if they chosed any Indonesian light APC products.


Sorry for being too late on this, but who is the producer for the Vigor again? I'm confused. Haven't heard of this. Even an article in the internet.

[4n664]

here we go again...:-(

Indonesia Navy Nomad crashed at east borneo. 5 people died, 4 wounded...

R.I.P....:-(:-(


We might have one of the highest casualties for servicemen in peacetime. Thats why they have my highest respect, It's a hard thing to do a job knowing that you have high chances of not coming back.

R.I.P for the ones that fall and condolences to their families...:-(

[mr. kurien]

here we go again...:-(

Indonesia Navy Nomad crashed at east borneo. 5 people died, 4 wounded...

R.I.P....:-(:-(

my god. another crash? RIP to the fallen heroes and to the wounded victims hope they will recover soon. i think this is the correct time for the Indonesian Goverment to look at this crash matter seriously.

[Master Chief]

In this country, the plane crash happens as frequent as celebrities divorce...


here we go again...:-(

Indonesia Navy Nomad crashed at east borneo. 5 people died, 4 wounded...

R.I.P....:-(:-(

[leeblitz]

In this country, the plane crash happens as frequent as celebrities divorce...

haha.....LOL:)

[ggk]

In this country, the plane crash happens as frequent as celebrities divorce...

you are cold.

Rest in Peace for the fallen.

[toukairin]

ggk, it is not that master chief is cold... when you see something too much in front of your eyes, even though it's on television, you'll start losing that something inside... maybe sympathy, empathy, i dunno...

same as if you live in a warzone, people dying everyday doesn't struck you as a tragedy again... it's just part of the everyday life.

[bambu runcing]

he's not cold blooded..... he only say it wouldn't be the last time


you are cold.

Rest in Peace for the fallen.

[Ominae]

Check this out, Dude :
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/light_combat_vehicles/wolf/wolf.htm

It's a Ford truck.
It would be much wiser if they chosed any Indonesian light APC products.

Thanks MC.

But I was told the Vigor was licensed in Jordan. So yeah...

[Aghost]

It's not happen twice it is frequent so put it on Guinness book of record with the tittle of "the armed force with the highest frequency of plane crash".

This plane already became a monument in Lamongan city square East Java, so why the other one still fling?
http://www.indosmarin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nomadlamongan.jpg

[Master Chief]

No, I'm not. I think the weather is hot here.

BTW, from the media today:
1. The misfortunate old plane had 9pax; 6 civilians & only 3 Navy men. 4 lost their lives so far, all civilians (RIP for them). The term of "the fallen" normally is meant for the military personnel, no ? The civilians were normal passengers; they paid tickets which are much cheaper than regular airliners.
2. It was not a real plane crash. The plane actually was trying to emergency land after both engines failed.
3. The top Navy brass kept saying that the plane was in a regular patrol. I'm saying: what the heck a Navy maritime patrol aircraft was doing so far in land far from the seashore with civilians passengers in it ?


you are cold.

Rest in Peace for the fallen.

[Master Chief]

According to Navy, they have five grounded Nomad available for displaying in your towns. Two are installed already in different towns in Java. One is on the way. Two are available. Interested ?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIALLamongan.jpg


It's not happen twice it is frequent so put it on Guinness book of record with the tittle of "the armed force with the highest frequency of plane crash".

This plane already became a monument in Lamongan city square East Java, so why the other one still fling?
http://www.indosmarin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nomadlamongan.jpg

[Master Chief]

Some files regarding this TNI-AL's Nomad aircraft:

Flight demo, 2007; anniversary of Navy Aviation in Surabaya. 5 Nomad & 1 Casa. Beautiful, isn't it ?
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL7.jpg

March 2009, Nunukan, landing failure.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL8.jpg

Nomad P-817, Kep Riau. Crashed in May 1987. Evacuated in July 2007; after 20 years under water. The pilot's remain is still unfound.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL6.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL3.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL4.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Aircrafts/NomadTNIAL5.jpg



It's not happen twice it is frequent so put it on Guinness book of record with the tittle of "the armed force with the highest frequency of plane crash".

This plane already became a monument in Lamongan city square East Java, so why the other one still fling?

[bambu runcing]

First Time Nomad Crashed inland

Navy Media Relations, Iskandar Sitompul, said, of total 42 Nomad TNI AL had, 23 had been disposed including three that had crashed:
- 1987 in Batam,
- 1988 in South China Sea,
- 2007 in Sabang (Aceh).
All three ditched in water during routine patrol.

The rest 19 still operational though only 8 permitted to fly. The one crashed in Nunukan is among the available 8.... and this is the first time Nomad crashed inland


I bet the one displayed as monument in Lamongan among the disposed
You can hope others Nomad joint the club....



It's not happen twice it is frequent so put it on Guinness book of record with the tittle of "the armed force with the highest frequency of plane crash".

This plane already became a monument in Lamongan city square East Java, so why the other one still fling?
http://www.indosmarin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nomadlamongan.jpg

[Ominae]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2508/335118770443697dfd6c.jpg

Found another image of the Pistol Serbu. This one (according to the sign) says that the pistol's in 5.56 x 21 during field tests.

Also found photos of a silent mortar according to Pindad in a firing range.

PS: Me homies in the Philippine Air Force still use that plane in the photo above.

[Ominae]

Apologies if some are reposts.

Some Indonesian-made weapons and equipment. (http://aryadhieva.multiply.com/photos/album/30/Indonesian_Made_Weaponry#)

The SSE Armored's website is dead right now.

[Ominae]

In the Phillipines, all people love M16; government army, renegade rogue army, lefty guerillas, right-wing guerillas...

Only in the Philippines, the communist guerillas love M16 more than AK47...

MILF did get some AKs years ago from Libya.

Not sure on the NPA. Seen some photos IIRC of NPA fighters having AKs.

[ayanami_tard]

pistol serbu kal 5.56mm

what?

(my knowledge on handgun cartridge is kinda rusty here)

[karbol]

this is a pics of the fallen NOMAD in east Borneo. as you can see, the poor nomad are in very bad condition...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadjatuh.jpg

after she crash, locals help the casualties. they also in very sad condition. i have to edit the pics first...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadkorban.jpg

[bambu runcing]

So, I was wrong
the fourth fallen Nomad also ditched in water....though shallow
She follow the tradition of three previous fallen Nomads

maybe there is a connection between Nomad and water... DOH !!



this is a pics of the fallen NOMAD in east Borneo. as you can see, the poor nomad are in very bad condition...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadjatuh.jpg

after she crash, locals help the casualties. they also in very sad condition. i have to edit the pics first...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadkorban.jpg

[nomind]

RIP to the fallen

[Master Chief]

Where are the military or SAR personnel on site ? The crash site seems empty.
And who is this person who got there with a digital camera ?


this is a pics of the fallen NOMAD in east Borneo. as you can see, the poor nomad are in very bad condition...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadjatuh.jpg

after she crash, locals help the casualties. they also in very sad condition. i have to edit the pics first...

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/nomadkorban.jpg

[karbol]

Where are the military or SAR personnel on site ? The crash site seems empty.
And who is this person who got there with a digital camera ?

a reporter/journalist... in this country, journalist always come first...p-)

[Ominae]

what?

(my knowledge on handgun cartridge is kinda rusty here)

LOL! Yeah I know. Had the same reaction when I had heard of the caliber too. I don't know the capabilities of the 5.56 x 21 though, especially if they're caseless or what.

I posted a flyer of the TNI AD (I think they're the ones who made the prototypes) here in the forum.

PS - Need to know if the Pasopati's ejection port for the bullets is on the right only?

[Master Chief]

Some file photos of Marines' RM70 Grad from Commando.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar4.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar5.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar3.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar6.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar7.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/RM70GradKormar8.jpg

The RM70's great-great grandfather, BM14
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/BM14Kormar.jpg

[gungho]

classic... was just wondering the effectiveness of the RM70.. is the truck not too big to carry those launchers though

[Ang Mo Kio]

Can anyone help me with TAIFIB insignias? Thanks.

[Master Chief]

Hmmmm, I didn't know that Taifib share the same uniform with Kopassus. Sorry, can't help you...
:bash:


Can anyone help me with TAIFIB insignias? Thanks.

[toukairin]

classic... was just wondering the effectiveness of the RM70.. is the truck not too big to carry those launchers though

if you look from another angle, it's not that (proportionally) too big...

And it's a relic from the past, dating from the WW2, tha grad is basically a rocket launcher on a truck. and that's the truck that's widely available (for lease, at the Soviet side) at the time.

[wesuper]

hollaa.....

long time no see....... :hug:


litle pic TNI AD HELLO


http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/huey.jpg

[Dr.Error]

hehe.. katyusha..

[Jagi]

if you look from another angle, it's not that (proportionally) too big...

And it's a relic from the past, dating from the WW2, tha grad is basically a rocket launcher on a truck. and that's the truck that's widely available (for lease, at the Soviet side) at the time.

How many mobile MLRS do TNI have excluding the towed ones???

Btw,I read Angkasa and I found an article about PTDI's arrangement with Dornier to license and produce their sea-born aircrafts. What sorta intrigues me is that at the beginning of the article Angkasa wrote something about the gov't and PTDI's intention to reactivate "Gatot Kaca" program which will dubbed N250R...anyone knows about this????:|:|:|:|

[karbol]

could anyone id this weapon? is this grenade launcher?:roll:

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/3678237558_83e8d828d1_o.jpg

[Jolly Rogers]

Hi everyone, perkenalkan, I'm a newbie from Indonesia too.
@Karbol.. That's look like an RBG-6 multiple grenade launcher. Are those Taruna Akabri? Looks very young to me, like junior/senior high school age or something.

[Master Chief]

Yes, it's an MGL (Multi-shot/Multiple Grenade Launcher), revolver type, 6 40mm rounds, made by Milkor, South Africa, name MGL-140.

This is the first time me seeing TNI own a Mikor MGL, though only for the Taruna. Thanks for the pic, Karbol.


could anyone id this weapon? is this grenade launcher?:roll:

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/ritanava/3678237558_83e8d828d1_o.jpg

[gungho]

yup, think Jolly's right about that launcher.. it's an RBG 6 Multiple Grenade Launcher, it's M203 on steroids hahaha... it can unleash 6 40x46mm munition in consecutively..

and surprisingly it's croatian..





Multiple Grenade Launcher Type RBG-6, cal.40x46mm, is lightweight, semi-automatic, shoulder fired grenade launcher for infantry use. It fires widely used 40x46mm grenade, low velocity family grenades.
The weapon is based on the revolver principle with a spring-driven, gas operated cylinder.
The weapon is equipped with a three-position folding stock. When fully extended the stock is almost parallel with the barrel. It is locked in that position for shorter ranges and as the range increases, the stock can be raised slightly to facilitate sighting.
The weapon is fitted with an Occluded Eye Gunsight (O.E.G.), which means that the weapon is fired with both eyes open. One eye looks into the sight and focuses on the red line, while the other eye has unimpeded view of the target. The sight is fully operational in both good and poor weather conditions as long as the target is visible.


taken from http://www.aalan.hr/Product-Catalogue/tabid/3622/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/11520/categoryId/297/Multiple-Grenade-Launcher-Type-RBG6-cal40x46mm.aspx




master, it looks very much alike these two weapons.. but I think you're right, notice the different buttstock with the RBG 6

[Master Chief]

The Croatian RBG-6 is, in fact, the licensed copy of the Milkor MGL Mk.1.

The Milkor MGL Mk.1 was brought to public by the character of Poncho Ramirez (one of Arnold Schwarneger's Commando team members) in the Predator movie, 1987. Remember that awesome movie & the particular scene ?


yup, think Jolly's right about that launcher.. it's an RBG 6 Multiple Grenade Launcher, it's M203 on steroids hahaha... it can unleash 6 40x46mm munition in consecutively..

and surprisingly it's croatian..



master, it looks very much alike these two weapons.. but I think you're right, notice the different buttstock with the RBG 6

[gungho]

ah yes.. how could one forget such a classic movie.. all hell breaks loose in that flick, gatling, M16 M203, launchers, all sorts.. but somehow, the big bad ugly motherf*cker predator was defeated by a tree trunk

[karbol]

wootwoot
Indonesian Navy newest LPD will be launched nearly... her name is KRI Banjarmasin.

this is the 3rd LPD and produce by PT.PAL. this pics was taken about 2 month ago...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2753/img8246.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img8246.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9291/img8247p.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/img8247p.jpg/)

and this is the 4th LPD...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4825/img8248j.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img8248j.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6757/img8249u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/img8249u.jpg/)

all pics credit to Cakrabyuha member of Angkasareaders community

[4n664]

There's another crash. This time its a Bravo 202 trainer. The pilot didn't make it.

Rest In Peace...

http://regional.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/09/17/1250523/pesawat.latih.tni.au.jatuh.di.sragen.1.tewas

[fcaesarn]

wootwoot
Indonesian Navy newest LPD will be launched nearly... her name is KRI Banjarmasin.

this is the 3rd LPD and produce by PT.PAL. this pics was taken about 2 month ago...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2753/img8246.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img8246.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9291/img8247p.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/img8247p.jpg/)

and this is the 4th LPD...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4825/img8248j.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img8248j.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6757/img8249u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/img8249u.jpg/)

all pics credit to Cakrabyuha member of Angkasareaders community

Thanks for the pics, finally the name of the ship reveal... KRI Banjarmasin...

[karbol]

oh and also this news..

Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:45 PM



Police say four dead in Solo anti-terror raid

The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Thu, 09/17/2009 11:53 AM | Headlines
The National Police has said four people have died while three others have been arrested during an anti-terror raid in Solo early Thursday.

The Police spokesperson Ins. Gen. Nanan Soekarna said that the four residents died when the anti-terror team was raiding a house in Kepok Sari village in Solo.

“And three people, including a woman, are undergoing police investigation at the Solo police office,” Nanan told kompas.com.

He added that one of the arrested people was Rohmad Puji Prabowo, alias Bejo, who was captured at Gading market, Solo yesterday afternoon.


“Meanwhile, we are still examining whether or not the woman is pregnant in one of hospitals in Solo,” Nanan told kompas.com.

He added that the four bodies would be checked by a forensic team from the police in Jakarta so as to ascertain their identities.

“I will give more details later,” he added. (ewd)

link: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/09/17/police-say-four-dead-solo-antiterror-raid.html

*******
some says, the terorrist are Noordin M top... hope its true...

but what makes me happy today is.....

MIYABI (MARIA OZAWA) ARE COMING TO INDONESIA!!wootwootwoot

what a day... many news in just one day..:)

[ayanami_tard]

MIYABI (MARIA OZAWA) ARE COMING TO INDONESIA!!wootwootwoot

what a day... many news in just one day..:)

^lol.......

[karbol]

chief of police confirm, NOORDIN M TOP is DEAD!!!!

GREAT JOB!!

[ggk]

but what makes me happy today is.....

MIYABI (MARIA OZAWA) ARE COMING TO INDONESIA!!wootwootwoot

what a day... many news in just one day..:)

when and where please i ll reschedule my appointment this month. Dont call me lanang if i cant get her for a date.

[karbol]

when and where please i ll reschedule my appointment this month. Dont call me lanang if i cant get her for a date.

from oct 14th til 22th.. she will be playing indonesian movie, titled 'Menculik Miyabi'... GGK, you want her for a date? well... langkahi dulu mayatku!!

hehehe...

[gungho]

any info where the shooting may take place??? need first hand intelligence on this miyabi business... ah and yes, congrats to the police, well done... but please, time and place for miyabi..

[Jagi]

from oct 14th til 22th.. she will be playing indonesian movie, titled 'Menculik Miyabi'... GGK, you want her for a date? well... langkahi dulu mayatku!!

hehehe...

I thought she was going to play maling kutang along w/ raditya dika???

Anyways,she'll be playing a japanese who comes to Indonesia to open up a shop that sells lingerie called "Miyabi Lingerie". Then some guys went there to buy lingeries as presents for their girls but ended up kidnapping Miyabi instead....well that's the gist of it..

I'm so gonna enjoy this flick...wootwootwoot

[Jagi]

and this is the 4th LPD...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4825/img8248j.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img8248j.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6757/img8249u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/img8249u.jpg/)

all pics credit to Cakrabyuha member of Angkasareaders community[/QUOTE]

These two pics looks more like cargo ship to me rather than an LPD...the Star 50 maybe...

[toukairin]

@master chief
from the pic, i think it's not the weapon owned by taruna, but rather taruna from the AAL coming to one of the Marine Corps base to see a gallery of weaponry.

[Ang Mo Kio]

Anyone has got any information on these beret insignias? Thanks.

[Ominae]

karbol:

Need to ask ya something?

You know if the Pistol Serbu's bullets are caseless?
Is the Pasopati's supposed ejection port on the right?

[Master Chief]

That is the Kujang beret badge, worn by Yonif Linud 328 & 330 (Airborne Battalions) back in 1960s.

The LC on the right pic, his beret shows the combination of Kujang & airborne wing, worn by 17 Airborne brigade in 1970s.

FYI, Kujang is a traditional dagger from West Java, similar to Keris from Central & East Java. Yonif Linud 328 & 330 are located in West java.


Anyone has got any information on these beret insignias? Thanks.

[ggk]

i have that knife underneath my bed...for protection.

anyway

Selamat Hari Raya!
Maaf Zahir Batin!

[/URL]
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3707/18092009.jpg[URL="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/ggk"] (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/imgadmj.jpg/)

saya pulang ke kampung malam ini...MET RAYA DEH!

[Master Chief]

I'll let Karbol answer you later, but judging from the pics we have seen so far;
Pistol Serbu uses regular 5.56 x 21mm cartridges, with case.
Pasopati's ejection port is only on the right side as usual, modified from the existing SS1 receiver.

Sorry if it makes you dissapointed.


karbol:

Need to ask ya something?

You know if the Pistol Serbu's bullets are caseless?
Is the Pasopati's supposed ejection port on the right?

[hawkeye88]

Yes, it's an MGL (Multi-shot/Multiple Grenade Launcher), revolver type, 6 40mm rounds, made by Milkor, South Africa, name MGL-140.

This is the first time me seeing TNI own a Mikor MGL, though only for the Taruna. Thanks for the pic, Karbol.

Not only for 40mm shell, it also can shoot shotgun type shell like gauge for example.

it is a multipurpose actually...

[karbol]

karbol:

Need to ask ya something?

You know if the Pistol Serbu's bullets are caseless?
Is the Pasopati's supposed ejection port on the right?

sorry.. been busy for a while. but masterchief already answer your question..


I'll let Karbol answer you later, but judging from the pics we have seen so far;
Pistol Serbu uses regular 5.56 x 21mm cartridges, with case.
Pasopati's ejection port is only on the right side as usual, modified from the existing SS1 receiver.

Sorry if it makes you dissapointed.

thx a lot sir...

[karbol]

i have that knife underneath my bed...for protection.

anyway

Selamat Hari Raya!
Maaf Zahir Batin!

saya pulang ke kampung malam ini...MET RAYA DEH!

hati2 di jalan.. dan selamat hari raya... mohon maaf lahir bathin...

[ggk]

thank you!

[Ang Mo Kio]

That is the Kujang beret badge, worn by Yonif Linud 328 & 330 (Airborne Battalions) back in 1960s.

The LC on the right pic, his beret shows the combination of Kujang & airborne wing, worn by 17 Airborne brigade in 1970s.

FYI, Kujang is a traditional dagger from West Java, similar to Keris from Central & East Java. Yonif Linud 328 & 330 are located in West java.

Master Chief.Many thanks for the information:)

[Ominae]

MC. Thanks.

Nah, just wanted to make sure of the stuff. :D

[Master Chief]

As I keep saying; in this country, the plane crash happens as frequent as celebrities divorce...



There's another crash. This time its a Bravo 202 trainer. The pilot didn't make it.

Rest In Peace...

http://regional.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/09/17/1250523/pesawat.latih.tni.au.jatuh.di.sragen.1.tewas

[Master Chief]

Some file photos of Kormar's KIA KM420 jeeps, from Commando.
The name (KIA: Killed In Action) explains itself.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/KormarKIAKM4201.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/KormarKIAKM4202.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/KormarKIAKM4203.jpg



That other jeep (the Marine one) looks to me like a KIA 422.

[DavidDCM]

Congratulations to Indonesia for killing that fvcker.


DNA test result confirms Noordin death

National Police announces the results of a DNA test have confirmed that the body of a terror suspect killed early Thursday in a raid in Surakarta, Central Java, belongs to Noordin M. Top, one of Southeast Asia's most wanted terrorists.

RS Soekamto Police Hospital head Brig. Gen. Eddy Saparwoko said the police had taken six DNA samples from Noordin's wives and children in his hometown in Malaysia and in Indonesia.

“All samples from the children matched with the DNA of [the body],” told reporters at a press conference in Jakarta.

Police confirmed Thursday that Noordin was killed in the raid, after a fingerprint check. The DNA test at the police hospital provides more substantive proof of Noordin’s death.

Noordin was four terror suspects killed in the raid. Other suspects were believed to be bomb maker Bagus “Urwah” Budi Pranoto, Susilo alias Adit, and Aryo “Aji” Sudarso, who was Noordin’s protégé.

[Dark Avenger]

Master Chief, I think that the "KM" designator for KIA vehicles denotes a license built foreign designed vehicle, The 420 series are KIA designed, so the "KM" would not apply to them.

[Master Chief]

I wovld be happier if he was cavght alive so I can talk to him, yov know, man to man.
Now he's dead, bvt don't celebrate too mvch. There will be other "Noordin M Top". This misconception of jihad ideology will never vanish.


Congratulations to Indonesia for killing that fvcker.

[karbol]

^^yeah.. you right bro...

as indonesian, sebaiknya kita tetap sopan...:)

anywey, took a few pics from todays pics thread about Noordin M Pup who die on toilet...rofl

thx to bd popeye




http://i36.tinypic.com/xngj6w.jpg







This photo released by the Indonesian National Police in Jakarta, Indonesia, Saturday, Sept. 19, 2009 shows police sketches of slain Malaysian terror leader Noordin Top, left and center, and his actual most recent appearance, right. Indonesian police say DNA tests have confirmed that the regional terrorism mastermind was killed days ago in a shootout with police.

[karbol]

thx to lancero




http://i27.tinypic.com/2cpdngi.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/259bgxy.jpg


http://i25.tinypic.com/t9uloy.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/25piq3c.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/4tsnd2.jpg


hmmm.... i think i dont see any Densus 88 member...:roll:

[Hiu Kencana]

i thought only Densus personnels use M4, so they got to be Densus right?

[karbol]

i'm not sure, coz i dont see densus patch on that police personel..

[toukairin]

well it's indonesian personnel... they can wear anything they wanna, as long as it looks like it's official...hey, the temanggung siege, didn't you see some of them wore PMC-like gears and clothing??

[Jagi]

Source: Pikiran Rakyat Online
http://newspaper.pikiran-rakyat.com/prprint.php?mib=beritadetail&id=81605

TRANSLATION

Indonesian Aerospace (IAe) will produce amphibious aircrafts through an under-license cooperation with the German aviation company, Dornier Seawings. The ability to operate from land or sea would make the amphibious aircrafts a solution for Indonesia's archipelago. Currently, IAe is preparing the production line and customer support to facilitate the aftersales services. The aircraft will be available in the market by 2012.


These type of aircraft,are they still good for military use besides for supplies and replenishments??

[toukairin]

hmm, hardly, Jagi. The WISE/WIG craft main advantage is that it's faster, cheaper, and safer for ferrying people and baggages across islands. Maybe it could be used for military purposes, but i think they'd opt to use the bigger ships to do that. More efficient on the long shot (for large operation).

[karbol]

@toukairin, i think those aren't WISE/WIGE aircraft. but it's a amphibious aircraft made by dornier. i forgot the type is, but is already published by Angkasa Magazine.... hmmm.... i think there's so many project in PT.DI. wonder how it goes...

for military purpose? only for Maritim patrol or SAR i think...

[toukairin]

err.. WISE/WIG aircraft is a KIND/TYPE of aircraft, not a brand... Wing in Ground/Wing in Surface Effect is what you get with using an aircraft flying low enough that an additional lift force is created from the interaction of the flow around the craft's fuselage+wing and the ground proximity... thus a more fuel efficient craft... my GPA is low so i can't explain it quite well, haha!

[karbol]

some rare pics of indonesia navy ship's.... some of it already retired...

KRI DEWA KEMBAR, ex HMS Hecla class survey ship
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2152/kridewakembar932.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/kridewakembar932.jpg/)

KRI DILI
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1811/kridilli583.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/kridilli583.jpg/)

KRI HASANUDIN, Tribal Class patrol frigate
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9527/krihasanuddin333.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/krihasanuddin333.jpg/)

KRI LEUSER
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7556/krilouser924.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/krilouser924.jpg/)

KRI NALA
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/410/krinala.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/krinala.jpg/)

[Jagi]

err.. WISE/WIG aircraft is a KIND/TYPE of aircraft, not a brand... Wing in Ground/Wing in Surface Effect is what you get with using an aircraft flying low enough that an additional lift force is created from the interaction of the flow around the craft's fuselage+wing and the ground proximity... thus a more fuel efficient craft... my GPA is low so i can't explain it quite well, haha!

Dornier's aircrafts are just plain turboprop aircrafts with the ability to fly at low speed and to land on the ground and on the water...that's all there is to it...AFAIK the WISE's main purpose is to eliminate the friction while reducing the coefficient of drag to a minimum between the craft's hull and the surface to attain a minimal level of flight. This will enable the craft to cruise at high speeds above water surface...

FYI the Russian booked a 297knots in the 80s with their Lun-class wisecraft

[wesuper]

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[Java Jongen]

lests back to pictures

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab324/ipenk_jhon/brimob.jpg
nice photo...Brimob Polri with Steyr AUG.
btw happy Idul Fitri 1430H !!!!

[Java Jongen]

and this is the 4th LPD...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4825/img8248j.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img8248j.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6757/img8249u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/img8249u.jpg/)

all pics credit to Cakrabyuha member of Angkasareaders community


more like tanker ship

[Java Jongen]

PAL's tanker STAR 50

http://www.pal.co.id/v5/data/news/nwsE17C3F4198DA73D0FCA0C70246DF8DB0.jpg
(taken from PT PAL's web site)

[Jagi]

I just found out something from wikipedia about Denjaka
Apparently,they now operate FN SCARs both the 5.56 & 7.62 versions
Anyone got more info about this???

[makavelli]

guys...just follow the rules...
membership in this forum is free...
and there are heaps of other forum for you guys if you're not comfortable with this forum.

again, this is strictly photos and video's..

cheers

[indogtr19]

September 12, 2009: Singapore is buying 135 Terrex Infantry Combat vehicles (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20090912.aspx#) (ICV). The first infantry units will receive them in February 2010. The 25 ton Terrex is optimized for urban environments. The U.S. Army’s use of the Stryker ICV and its success on the battlefield influenced the selection of Terrex, and subsequent modifications.
Costing $1.5 million each, the vehicle (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20090912.aspx#) is externally similar to the Stryker, with 8 wheels and a remote controlled weapons turret atop the hull. The hull has a V shape for mine protection. The vehicle is 7 meters long (22.96 feet), 2.7 meters wide (8.85 feet), and 2.1 meters high (6.88 feet). The vehicle carries 13 soldiers and 2 crewmen (driver and commander), in its armored personnel carrier (APC) role. If a turret is used, 8 troops may be carried in addition to the driver and two men (commander and gunner) to operate the turret. Weapons such as the 25 mm cannon and 7.62mm machine gun are used against armored vehicles or structures. A 7.62mm machine gun is situated alongside and traverses with the gun. A 40mm Grenade launcher with 7.62mm machine gun may replace the cannon.
More ballistic protection is available in the form of bolt on or welded armor (slat, cage type), which is fitted alongside the hull for defense against Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG’s). If hit, the tires are designed for run flat operation and include a central air inflation system permitting the driver to control the amount of air in each tire. The driver sits in front to the left of the engine. Top speed is 110 kilometers per hour with a range of 800 kilometers. The vehicle is amphibious, using water jets mounted on either side of the rear hull to propels the vehicle at 10 kilometers per hour in the water.
Electronics a Battlefield Management System (BMS) which permits full awareness of a battlespace providing sharable information (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20090912.aspx#) to other vehicles or soldiers. A Weapon Detection System (WDS) is provided to spot enemy fire. All information is displayed on colored screens in the commander’s position just aft of the driver.
The vehicle is intended for modularity and may be further configured into an armored recovery vehicle, mortar carrier, ambulance, 105mm mobile gun platform, and rocket launcher. In any configuration Nuclear Biological or Chemical protection is standard regardless of weather or combat environment.
Indonesia expressed the desire to acquire 420 vehicles with a license to produce it locally. Turkey has also licensed the vehicle for production.
The closest counterpart to the Terrex, the Stryker, is similar in specifications with a cost of 1.42 million per vehicle, length of 6.95 meters (22.92 feet), width of 2.72 meters (8.97 feet), and a height of 2.64 meters (8.72 feet). Weight is 16.47 tons (33,400 pounds). It has a speed and range of 100 kilometers per hour and 500 kilometers respectively. It may be configured in similar vehicle guises as Terrex and can carry identical armament. -- Mike Perry
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk390/gtrazn12/terrex.jpg
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20090912.aspx

How exciting :D This vehicle looks promising and can be a great addition to TNI's modernization. I really hope they go for it.

[koxinga]

http://www.antara.co.id/en/news/1253109690/air-force-orders-anti-aircraft-weapons

akarta (ANTARA News) - The special unit of the Indonesian Air Force has ordered 35 mm anti-aircraft weapons Oerlikon Contraves made in Switzerland to maximize its air defense.

"The weapon will replace Triple Gun made in 1950 which has long been used by the air force and some of them have been phased out since 1990," the chief of the air force`s special unit Paskhas, Rear Marshal Harry Budiono, said when asked to confirm about it on Wednesday.

He said the 35 mm Oerlikon Contraves had been used in 40 countries in Asia and Europe. "If Indonesia is serious to buy it and has signed a contract they would start making it. So we will get the new ones," he said.

He said Paskhas meanwhile would also continue to procure anti-aircraft missiles QW-3 made in China. "The contract is at the ministry of defense. We will buy three units and they will place them in Madiun (East Java) and Jakarta," he said.

Harry said the procurement of some equipment was part of the air force`s capability development program for 2005-2009, which due to a limited budget it would only be continued in the 2009-2014 period.

Regarding weapons for its personnel and other combat vehicles Paskhas uses the standard weapons and vehicles of the defense forces (TNI). For example "we use SS-1 V1 produced by PT Pindad and others for an individual personnel weapon," he said.(*)

[fcaesarn]

PAL's tanker STAR 50

http://www.pal.co.id/v5/data/news/nwsE17C3F4198DA73D0FCA0C70246DF8DB0.jpg
(taken from PT PAL's web site)

May be it'll converted to the LHD...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1XZMX_E0z5c/SSVT44wZQlI/AAAAAAAAAm8/AJnegK-p5nA/s400/LHD_PAL.jpg

[DavidDCM]

http://www.antara.co.id/en/news/1253109690/air-force-orders-anti-aircraft-weapons

akarta (ANTARA News) - The special unit of the Indonesian Air Force has ordered 35 mm anti-aircraft weapons Oerlikon Contraves made in Switzerland to maximize its air defense.

"The weapon will replace Triple Gun made in 1950 which has long been used by the air force and some of them have been phased out since 1990," the chief of the air force`s special unit Paskhas, Rear Marshal Harry Budiono, said when asked to confirm about it on Wednesday.

He said the 35 mm Oerlikon Contraves had been used in 40 countries in Asia and Europe. "If Indonesia is serious to buy it and has signed a contract they would start making it. So we will get the new ones," he said.

He said Paskhas meanwhile would also continue to procure anti-aircraft missiles QW-3 made in China. "The contract is at the ministry of defense. We will buy three units and they will place them in Madiun (East Java) and Jakarta," he said.

Harry said the procurement of some equipment was part of the air force`s capability development program for 2005-2009, which due to a limited budget it would only be continued in the 2009-2014 period.

Regarding weapons for its personnel and other combat vehicles Paskhas uses the standard weapons and vehicles of the defense forces (TNI). For example "we use SS-1 V1 produced by PT Pindad and others for an individual personnel weapon," he said.(*)

This anti-aircraft gun is going to be replaced:
http://www.abload.de/img/0007tuc.jpg
It's full name is Hispanon Suiza M-55A2B1.

[Jagi]

How exciting :D This vehicle looks promising and can be a great addition to TNI's modernization. I really hope they go for it.[/QUOTE]

I suppose ST would only agree for the license of the vehicle only,not included with the BMS and the whole electronic bits cause maybe those techs are just too valuable and too sensitive for them to give

[indogtr19]

I suppose ST would only agree for the license of the vehicle only,not included with the BMS and the whole electronic bits cause maybe those techs are just too valuable and too sensitive for them to give

One can dream...... :)

[ggk]

..
This anti-aircraft gun is going to be replaced:
http://www.abload.de/img/0007tuc.jpg
It's full name is Hispanon Suiza M-55A2B1.

nice Jeep

[ayanami_tard]

where are you looking anyway

[bambu runcing]

anyone recognize why this TNI thread become so booooriiiiing after Lebaran??

[mengkom]

one page missing..somebody delete it..

[Ominae]

So who got the hit on Top? Gegana? Sorry I seemed to missed who did it...

[Jagi]

So who got the hit on Top? Gegana? Sorry I seemed to missed who did it...

Det 88 stormed the house in solo backed by BRIMOB soon after especially for securing the perimeter around the house

[gungho]

I just found out something from wikipedia about Denjaka
Apparently,they now operate FN SCARs both the 5.56 & 7.62 versions
Anyone got more info about this???

would love to hear more about it.. last time they also used HK416 as part of their arsenal.. but I think it's like a trial test or something..

[Ominae]

BTW, someone in wikipedai placed the Pindad PS-01 pistol serbu by Pindad.

http://globemaster.multiply.com/journal/item/16/Pistol_PS-01_SERBU_Produk_Terbaru_Pindad

Looks like they're handling the prototypes and eventual production. Unless the TNI-AD's research department is still doing it.

Is there a Indonesian meaning for the TNI-AD's research department that initially did the Pistol Serbu? Thanks.

[Ang Mo Kio]

Anyone knows the period of use for these KOMANDO patch? Thanks.

[Master Chief]

That is the Kopasgat (now Korpaskhas) commando qualification shoulder patch, used from 1966 to early 70s.


Anyone knows the period of use for these KOMANDO patch? Thanks.

[Ang Mo Kio]

That is the Kopasgat (now Korpaskhas) commando qualification shoulder patch, used from 1966 to early 70s.

Master Chief,many thanks for helping me with that information.:hug:

[mr. kurien]

hey guys... heard news of the latest earthquake tragedy yesterday. what a sad tragedy. even my home at far east Malaysia can feel the tremor from yesterday earthquake. be strong ok.

[darkpole]

hey guys... heard news of the latest earthquake tragedy yesterday. what a sad tragedy. even my home at far east Malaysia can feel the tremor from yesterday earthquake. be strong ok.

Indeed, thanks bro. RIP to the victims.

News said today TNI AL is starting to send 6 LST and 1 hospital ship to Padang from Tanjung Priok, while TNI AU provide 3 Hercules.

[Ang Mo Kio]

Indonesian Marine Corps Parachutist insignias.Lovely....

[gungho]

I think in the wake of Gempa Padang, Indonesia should consider having a chinook type of chopper, where its capacity power is very much needed for that kind of situation..

[jerukkisut]

I think indonesia need to renew every equipment they have...
Coz so many died because of the old equipment.
And so many gets fatter because of corruption...
It is unfortunate that the goverment can't erase them this instant...

[toukairin]

hi everyone, back from the infraction (d'oh).

Got a newspaper with pic of volunteers and soldiers on their line to board a USAF Hercules. I'll scan it later...

[Johanus Bau]

I found some info from the handover ceremony for some Marinir regiment commanders in Surabaya last week. Anyone got any info on this Tank Roket from Resimen Kavaleri-1 Mar? It looks like a BVP 2 with a TOW on it ya kan? Maaf, harus zoom dulu....:oops:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk262/masbaguss/2009DUARESIMENMARINIRGANTIKOMAND-14.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk262/masbaguss/2009DUARESIMENMARINIRGANTIKOMAND-15.jpg

[Master Chief]

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Police/Ciputat1.jpg
Indonesian police officers stand guard following a raid on a house where suspected terrorists were holed up in Ciputat, Banten province, Indonesia, Friday, Oct. 9, 2009. Anti-terrorism police raided a house near the Indonesian capital on Friday, shooting dead two suspects and capturing two others, a police official and media reports said. (AP Photo/Tatan Syuflana)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Police/Ciputat4.jpg
Policemen from Indonesia's elite anti-terrorism unit Detachment 88 walk during a raid on a house in which militants were hiding in Ciputat in the outskirts of Jakarta October 9, 2009. Two Indonesian militants wanted for their alleged role in hotel bombings in Jakarta have been killed in a shoot-out on the outskirts of the capital, a police source and media said on Friday. *******/Dadang Tri (INDONESIA CRIME LAW POLITICS)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Police/Ciputat5.jpg
Policemen from Indonesia's elite anti-terrorism unit Detachment 88 shout at a journalist during a raid on a house in which militants were hiding in Ciputat in the outskirts of Jakarta October 9, 2009. Two Indonesian militants wanted for their alleged role in hotel bombings in Jakarta have been killed in a shoot-out on the outskirts of the capital, a police source and media said on Friday. *******/Dadang Tri (INDONESIA CRIME LAW POLITICS)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Police/Ciputat2.jpg
Indonesia's anti-terrorism policemen carry a body shortly after a raid on a house in which militants were hiding in Ciputat in the outskirts of Jakarta October 9, 2009. Two Indonesian militants wanted for their alleged role in hotel bombings in Jakarta have been killed in a shoot-out on the outskirts of the capital, a police source and media said on Friday. *******/Stringer (INDONESIA CRIME LAW POLITICS IMAGES OF THE DAY)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Police/Ciputat3.jpg
A policeman from Indonesia's elite anti-terrorism unit Detachment 88 walks during a raid on a house in which militants were hiding in Ciputat in the outskirts of Jakarta October 9, 2009. Two Indonesian militants wanted for their alleged role in hotel bombings in Jakarta have been killed in a shoot-out on the outskirts of the capital, a police source and media said on Friday. *******/Dadang Tri (INDONESIA CRIME LAW POLITICS)

[DavidDCM]

I found some info from the handover ceremony for some Marinir regiment commanders in Surabaya last week. Anyone got any info on this Tank Roket from Resimen Kavaleri-1 Mar? It looks like a BVP 2 with a TOW on it ya kan? Maaf, harus zoom dulu....:oops:



9M113 Konkurs (AT-5 Spandrel)
licence produced in Czech Republic.

@Master Chief: Nice pics of Den 88 :)

[Jagi]

hey anyone know what type of body armor Den 88 are using right now????

Interceptors maybe???I hope not cause it's junk

[ayanami_tard]

it doesn't look like interceptor vest

i have also ask that in equipment thread.so far no answer

[Jolly Rogers]

^^
Last time I heard they usually have BHI stuff.

Kudos to 88 detachment for cracking down Indonesia's terrorist hideout. I just wish POLRI have that same kind of determination/efforts on corruptors..

[gungho]

hey anyone know what type of body armor Den 88 are using right now????

Interceptors maybe???I hope not cause it's junk

they're wearing Blackhawk's STRIKE cutaway armor vest..

[midgee]

Hope it's still not too late to wish "congratulations" to Detachment 88 & all parties involved for bringing down the most wanted terrorist. woot

[Jagi]

Anyone got photos from Indonesia - US Marine Exercise 2009???

[Master Chief]

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20091.jpg
U.S. Marines of the 4th Marine Regiment and their Indonesian counterparts take part in a ceremony marking the closing of a joint exercise code-named Keris Eagle 2009 at Indonesian Marines headquarters in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Feb. 27, 2009.(AP Photo/Tatan Syuflana)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20098.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20096.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20095.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20094.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20099.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Soldiers/KerisEagle20093.jpg
U.S. Marine of the 4th Marine Regiment 2nd Lt. Jeremiah Davis of Aberdeen, Mississippi, center, chats with his Indonesian counterparts prior to a ceremony marking the closing of a joint exercise code-named Keris Eagle 2009 at Indonesian Marines headquarters in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Feb. 27, 2009. Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is a close U.S. ally in its efforts to destroy terrorist organizations in the region. (AP Photo/Tatan Syuflana)

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U.S. Marine of the 4th Marine Regiment Cpl. David Pagan of Orlando, Florida, second left, pose for a photograph with his Indonesian counterpart prior to a ceremony marking the closing of a joint exercise code-named Keris Eagle 2009 at Indonesian Marines headquarters in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Feb. 27, 2009. Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is a close U.S. ally in its efforts to destroy terrorist organizations in the region. (AP Photo/Tatan Syuflana)



Anyone got photos from Indonesia - US Marine Exercise 2009???

[eagleroaming]

Good pictures Bro!..., but is there anyone got pictures like this on another occassion such as between Det 88 Indonesian National Police Counter Terrorism Detachment with her counterpart in US like FBI CTU (Counter Terrorism Unit)?Thx a lot Bro, Keep Posting Cheers n Peace

[eagleroaming]

Here Bro was Indonesian Navy proud Battle Cruiser Ex Ordzhonikidze,Sverdlov Class was South East Asian Monster of The Sea

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp348/perryxtian/sverdlov_image2.jpg

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp348/perryxtian/02089039bv6.jpg

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp348/perryxtian/KRIIrian.png

Enjoy The Pictures sorry if Repost Bro

[kecemplunglagi]

1st and 2nd pics are not KRI Irian, only 3rd pic is KRI Irian (most probably mooring off-shore Surabaya, scanned from Indo Information Ministry-ABRI HQ's photo issued to all Indonesian missions abroad)

2nd pic is Mikhail Kutuzov, bow number 105, in Murmansk (?)
1st pic, I don't know, bow number 859?

Oh, yes they've been reposted :)

[ggk]

thats amazing, is it the actual picture of the TNI AL?

[kecemplunglagi]

What? KRI Irian? Yes, as a matter of fact your humble fellow member here is the first person who scanned it from original copy :)

[eagleroaming]

Yes Bro, I thought that those above is the actual picture of the TNI-AL (Indonesian Navy) is there anyone got nice picture of our next ADVANCE KILO Class SUBMARINES? Thx a lot Bro

[Sootan]

Yes Bro, I thought that those above is the actual picture of the TNI-AL (Indonesian Navy) is there anyone got nice picture of our next ADVANCE KILO Class SUBMARINES? Thx a lot Bro

TNI-AL's Kilo? maybe in a few years :-)

[Master Chief]

TNI will only acquire the Kilos after whenever TLDM's Scorpenes blow up & sink a few KRIs in Ambalat water...


TNI-AL's Kilo? maybe in a few years :-)

[aluta]

Does anyone know if Kopasandha or Kostrad had a light blue cap in their kit? I know Kop has the red beret, and Kos has the green beret, but someone was spotted years ago with a blue hat. Any ideas?

[Johanus Bau]

Does anyone know if Kopasandha or Kostrad had a light blue cap in their kit? I know Kop has the red beret, and Kos has the green beret, but someone was spotted years ago with a blue hat. Any ideas?

Yeah, Paspampres (Presidential Security Guard) wears the light blue beret.....

[aluta]

That was quick! Thanks for that information. As the soldier with blue hat was sighted in Dili, East Timor, on December 1975, it might not be a Paspampres.
Any other ideas on a blue-hatted TNI in 1975?

[kecemplunglagi]

light blue? I think that's Military Police, not Presidential Guard. Pres Guard members come from various units in TNI and most of the time they don't wear unifoms (unless you called that "baju safari" as their uniform).

Oh, and MP always provide uniformed-escort (on motorbikes and white G-wagen Mercedes Benz) to Pres/VP/State Guests motorcade.

[aluta]

That's most intriguing. Thanks for the info. I'm now wondering why there would be MPs in Dili during the TNI invasion in 1975....?

[aluta]

I am interested in photographs of Indonesian TNI, both Kostrad, Marines, and Kopassandha - in East Timor in December 1975.
I have an excellent photo of a group of happy Kopassandha posing on the Dili waterfront on December 8 or 9.
Also have pics of Gen. Moerdani and Col. Dading Kabuadi visiting Dili on December 8 1975 - Moerdani in a safari jacket!
Also have photo of Paratroopers battalion 501 or 502 floating to ground over the Government building on the waterfront in the centre of Dili on December 7 1975.
Anyone have, or know of similar photographs?
Many thanks.

[501st_airborne]

I am interested in photographs of Indonesian TNI, both Kostrad, Marines, and Kopassandha - in East Timor in December 1975.
I have an excellent photo of a group of happy Kopassandha posing on the Dili waterfront on December 8 or 9.
Also have pics of Gen. Moerdani and Col. Dading Kabuadi visiting Dili on December 8 1975 - Moerdani in a safari jacket!
Also have photo of Paratroopers battalion 501 or 502 floating to ground over the Government building on the waterfront in the centre of Dili on December 7 1975.
Anyone have, or know of similar photographs?
Many thanks.

Could you please share your collection here? I'm curious with the battalion 501 pic :p

[Master Chief]

You mean light-blue beret ? That someone with a light-blue beret most likely an MP (Military Police, not Military Photos) guy. Light-blue beret is also worn by Provoost (Internal Affairs) in many units in all three services including Police. However, Kopassus' Provoost wear red beret. Meanwhile Kostrad's Provoost wear both light-blue & green berets.


Does anyone know if Kopasandha or Kostrad had a light blue cap in their kit? I know Kop has the red beret, and Kos has the green beret, but someone was spotted years ago with a blue hat. Any ideas?

[aluta]

Could you please share your collection here? I'm curious with the battalion 501 pic :p

Happy to. Need to have it scanned and will post soon.

[aluta]

You mean light-blue beret ? That someone with a light-blue beret most likely an MP (Military Police, not Military Photos) guy. Light-blue beret is also worn by Provoost (Internal Affairs) in many units in all three services including Police. However, Kopassus' Provoost wear red beret. Meanwhile Kostrad's Provoost wear both light-blue & green berets.

That certainly narrows down the possibilities - seems like it may be a Kostrad Provoost. I wonder whether Kostrad would take a Provoost into Dili in the early days of the invasion of Timor in 1975?
Anyone know of a photo of a Kostrad Provoost from that era?
Thanks.

[mcwood]

which unit r this? someone email me this pic.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7030/72221215378195418155772.jpg

[DavidDCM]

This is Kopassus

[aluta]

501 Kostrad, sortie 2 over east Comoro at 7.45am, Sunday 7th December 1975. Note Marconi radio antenna in foreground. Photo: Djumaryo. Published in 'Eyewitness to Integration of East Timor', by Hendro Subroto.

Anyone got any more photos taken in Dili Dec 1975?

[Johanus Bau]

light blue? I think that's Military Police, not Presidential Guard. Pres Guard members come from various units in TNI and most of the time they don't wear unifoms (unless you called that "baju safari" as their uniform).

Oh, and MP always provide uniformed-escort (on motorbikes and white G-wagen Mercedes Benz) to Pres/VP/State Guests motorcade.


Paspampres has light blue beret dude... see below.


But in this case, I would agree that it was probably Kostrad MPs

[kecemplunglagi]

Wow, never know that they actually have light blue beret like that. Worked with Paspampres several times, most of them in 'safari suit' condition and another in their red-white uniform, never saw that light-blue.

Thanks for the info!

[mcwood]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4894/sbyi001.jpg

[Jagi]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4894/sbyi001.jpg

Is he part of Paspampres or Polri? I don't see any patches to identify the guy...

[501st_airborne]

501 Kostrad, sortie 2 over east Comoro at 7.45am, Sunday 7th December 1975. Note Marconi radio antenna in foreground. Photo: Djumaryo. Published in 'Eyewitness to Integration of East Timor', by Hendro Subroto.

Anyone got any more photos taken in Dili Dec 1975?

I wonder why batt 501 suffered the biggest casualties?

Look at their dropzone, a coconut field that might be full of tropaz waiting for them...

[Master Chief]

This guy is a Paspampres. The blurred guy in the background wears a light-blue beret, the Paspamres beret. Paspampres is one of the 1st units which received brandnew Anoa 6x6 as seen in this pic.

The Anoa 6x6 is operated by Denkavser (Armored Cavalry Detachment). They are Paspampres, they wear normal TNI BDU, either DPM or black BDU.


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4894/sbyi001.jpg

[toukairin]

Back from Indusa Marex, I'll try to post pics, but gotta ask permission from my friend first, and wait for the exercise to finish... I've only observed 2 days of the exercise.

[DavidDCM]

This guy is a Paspampres. The blurred guy in the background wears a light-blue beret, the Paspamres beret. Paspampres is one of the 1st units which received brandnew Anoa 6x6 as seen in this pic.

The Anoa 6x6 is operated by Denkavser (Assault Cavalry Detachment). They are Paspampres, they wear normal TNI BDU, either DPM or black BDU.

Other picture
http://i37.tinypic.com/xdf18z.jpg

A member of Indonesian Presidential Security Service walks near armored vehicles parked outside the parliament building, ahead of the inauguration ceremony of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Jakarta, Indonesia, 19 October 2009. The People's Consultative Assembly (MPR) prepared tighter security to guard the inauguration ceremony of President Yudhoyono and Vice President Boediono as around 2,000 security guards from the National Police will be deployed around the parliament building compound while some 18,000 police officers will guard the city of Jakarta through out the ceremony. EPA/MAST IRHAM

[Master Chief]

Paspampres had to bring in all available armors under their disposal (in this pic: Anoa 6x6 & Cadillac Gage Commando Scout) in case of they have to evacuate all VVIPs & VIPs for whatever reasons.
The armors are owned & operated by Denkavser (Armor Cavalry Detachment).
The personnel whose responsibility is to evacuate VVIPs & VIPs to safety are under Denmatan ("Safety" Detachment). These are the brute-force all-black guys with SS1 we normally see in the media, including the one in the previous posted picture.
The body-guards around the VVIP or VIP with suit & tie & black sunglasses & no-smiles are under Denwalpri (Private Escort Detachment, just say Bodyguard Detachment).


Other picture
http://i37.tinypic.com/xdf18z.jpg

[Jolly Rogers]

Those Anoas remind me of JGSDF's Type 82.. At least the 6x6 configuration and the front hull shape.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq173/ali_yulianto/type-82_so42b.jpg

[mcwood]

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/975/kstm001.jpg

AP PHOTO
Indonesian customs officers show evidence confiscated from alleged drug smugglers during a press conference at the Soekarno-Hatta airport, on the outskirts of Jakarta, Indonesia, Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009. A group of alleged Iranian drug smugglers, including eight veiled women, some seen at center back, were caught with $12.5 million worth of methamphetamines at Indonesia's main airport, the customs chief said.

[Master Chief]

The Customs officer with a rifle in the back; that rifle is called SBC-1, a version of SS1-V5 specifically designed for Customs. It has only a single shot firing mode, not fully automatic.


http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/975/kstm001.jpg

AP PHOTO
Indonesian customs officers show evidence confiscated from alleged drug smugglers during a press conference at the Soekarno-Hatta airport, on the outskirts of Jakarta, Indonesia, Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009. A group of alleged Iranian drug smugglers, including eight veiled women, some seen at center back, were caught with $12.5 million worth of methamphetamines at Indonesia's main airport, the customs chief said.

[Master Chief]

Have you tried to compare Anoa 6x6 with Renault VAB 6x6 ?


Those Anoas remind me of JGSDF's Type 82.. At least the 6x6 configuration and the front hull shape.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq173/ali_yulianto/type-82_so42b.jpg