TNI in Gallery (the New Photos) [Archive] - Page 9

ahmadmz

11-19-2008, 11:49 PM

Some Picture of Indo Defence Expo Courtessy DN Yusuf Angkasa-Online
http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/PEMBUKAAN%20INDO%20DEFENCE.jpg

Vice President Jusuf Kalla Open the Expo

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/RANPUR.jpg

Pindad 6x6 UN

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/CANON%20PINDAD.jpg

Panser Kanon I Like The Silhouette from the monster

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/stan%20au1.jpg

Vice President JK at Indonesia Air Force Both

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/INDO%20DEFENCE%20BIRD%20VIEW.jpg

Indo Defence Expo Area

:hug:

I'm newbie and Just learn to post

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 12:03 AM

INDODEFENCE & INDOAEROSPACE 2008.... yes, i've been there... this is a little pics of them. got to catch my deadline first...:)

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/DSC00302.jpg

This is new ones... PANSER KANON 90MM made by Pindad
i post more pics later... :)

can anyone tell me What kind of armored Vehicle in Front of APC 6x6 (Tan Color) Thanks :) Its Look So Tough :D

karbol

11-20-2008, 12:40 AM

[quote=karbol;3703940]INDODEFENCE & INDOAEROSPACE 2008.... yes, i've been there... this is a little pics of them. got to catch my deadline first...:)

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/CN-235-1.jpg

Karbol - do you have pictures showing more details of this plane? Are there any ESM/RWR on the back? Just curious about the sensor suite. Most reports about the plane list a lot of electronics but the only things visible are the radar dome, frontal ESM suite and the FLIR turret (maybe a Chlio?).

When I walked around an Atlantique (back in IAS 86 - Kemayoran), some of the details on the plane were visible only from close proximity - eg.: it has a quad launch-tube semi-recessed on the side for sonobuoys.

the ESM is on the top of the cockpit... i'm not sure on the back. tomorrow i'll took more detail pics for you...

karbol

11-20-2008, 12:42 AM

karbol, can you id this weapon? I took it from antarafoto

SPH...:roll: not from indonesia...

karbol

11-20-2008, 12:43 AM

can anyone tell me What kind of armored Vehicle in Front of APC 6x6 (Tan Color) Thanks :) Its Look So Tough :D

military vehicle from france (renault..)

karbol

11-20-2008, 12:46 AM

Some Picture of Indo Defence Expo Courtessy DN Yusuf Angkasa-Online

Vice President Jusuf Kalla Open the Expo

Pindad 6x6 UN

Panser Kanon I Like The Silhouette from the monster

Vice President JK at Indonesia Air Force Both

Indo Defence Expo Area

:hug:

I'm newbie and Just learn to post

welcome sir...:)

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 12:56 AM

military vehicle from france (renault..)

Thanks for the information bro..
:hug:

karbol

11-20-2008, 12:59 AM

Wow, I thought "panser kanon" just some daydream nonsense, and I am wrong. Do you have the picture from the side?

Good job Pindad!!

Thx for the photos Karbol

well, they put the panser kanon on the corner.. so it is really hard to take the pics from the side...:-(

especially, when you use cameraphone just like me...

karbol

11-20-2008, 01:01 AM

Hei Karbol.. Why didn't you start a thread just about the Indodefence & Indoaerospace 200, like others did with other expo... I think it will be Rock MP.net...

nice thought... but... malu ah....:)

i do have about 70 pics about indodefence... but still have to wait for the photobucket finish upload them all...:-(

henzai

11-20-2008, 01:03 AM

nice thought... but... malu ah....:)

i do have about 70 pics about indodefence...

any submarine karbol...???

karbol

11-20-2008, 01:05 AM

any submarine karbol...???

yes.. the mini sub. it's not to new, so i dont take the pics. i already post the minisub on previous pages...

henzai

11-20-2008, 01:24 AM

yes.. the mini sub. it's not to new, so i dont take the pics. i already post the minisub on previous pages...

ok..PAL mini sub....
btw its nice to see those PKR maket...its new and some said they gonna built it.....:)

karbol

11-20-2008, 01:35 AM

damn internet!!:-(

so i just add more pics slowly one by one...

the LHD design made by PT.PAL...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/lhd2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/lhd3.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/lhd4.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/lhd5.jpg

karbol

11-20-2008, 01:45 AM

another look on panser kanon...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/kanon3.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/kanon4.jpg

missile mounting made by PINDAD... already installed at Parchim Class...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/mount.jpg

OPV's 60m...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/opv2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/opv4.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/opv3.jpg

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 01:51 AM

woo....w LHD Design By PT PAL Had Island in the upper deck Its Looks CV for me..
Hope someday PT PAL Can Build CVN too woot

501st_airborne

11-20-2008, 02:04 AM

What the purpose of owning a LHD if you don't have choppers that much? :p

please someone enlighten me about the significant of carrying many choppers in a sea battle..

karbol

11-20-2008, 02:07 AM

What the purpose of owning a LHD if you don't have choppers that much? :p

please someone enlighten me about the significant of carrying many choppers in a sea battle..

for disaster relief... remember tsunami?

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 02:26 AM

for disaster relief... remember tsunami?

I agreed with Karbol Indonesia need more LHD and Helicopter for Disaster Relief:) Than for Battle.
With Indonesia Political Policy I Think We'll Never had War with others countries.

So we can use our Navys and others equipment for Disaster Relief Preventif action and humanitarian activity.

fcaesarn

11-20-2008, 02:54 AM

I agreed with Karbol Indonesia need more LHD and Helicopter for Disaster Relief:) Than for Battle.
With Indonesia Political Policy I Think We'll Never had War with others countries.

So we can use our Navys and others equipment for Disaster Relief Preventif action and humanitarian activity.

Yup and maybe it can be landed by Mi-35 which will have air support for marines which landed on the beach... another join exercise (LATGAB) scenario....

More Photos please Karbol :):)... Thanks...

Tunasa

11-20-2008, 02:59 AM

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 03:16 AM

Yup and maybe it can be landed by Mi-35 which will have air support for marines which landed on the beach... another join exercise (LATGAB) scenario....

More Photos please Karbol :):)... Thanks...

@fcaesarn bro U start thread About Indo Defence and Aerospace Expo 2008 in Other forum (k****s) ya? I Just Read Them..... :D

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 03:42 AM

Wow, I just realised that the tonnage for the helicopter carrier is about 35000 tonnes. That is a bit ambitious don't you think? Considering that the tonnage of average stovl carrier is about 20000 to 30000 tonnes.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7953/multirolehelicopterdockrh1.jpg

Maybe From Basic Ship Technology That PT PAL Use So The Tonnage of LHD is About 35000 Tonnes.

The Rumor Say That PAL LHD is development from this ship

http://www.pal.co.id/v5/data/product/prod1FF43A99776F7C0B3EDB9E33AB5B6020E.jpg

STAR 50 - DSBC 50.000 DWT
DRY CARGO VESSEL
STAR 50 DOUBLE SKIN BULK CARRIER 50.000 DWT
Product Branding PAL INDONESIA

Owner : Reederei M Lauterjung GmbH
Total Produk : 2 Unit
Delivery : 2008 & 2007

Specifications :
Length Over All:189.90 m
Length Between Perpendicular:182.00 m
Breadth Moulded: 30.50 m
Depth Moulded to Main Deck :17.50 m
Speed Service: 14.50 knots
Complement : 23 persons
Main Engine: MAN B&W
Complement:26 persons
Class: Nippon Kaiji Kyokai

Alfacentori

11-20-2008, 03:56 AM

karbol, can you id this weapon? I took it from antarafoto

http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/grab.php?id=1227083303

Damn hard to see from the pic, could be

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/atmos/atmos2.html

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/caesar6.html

or similar

Alfa

fcaesarn

11-20-2008, 04:10 AM

Damn hard to see from the pic, could be

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/atmos/atmos2.html

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/caesar6.html

or similar

Alfa

I don't really know, but my first hypothesis is FH2000 Clone... CMIIW...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Fh2000.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/FH-2000_towing_config.jpg

karbol

11-20-2008, 04:39 AM

hovercraft....

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/hover2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/hover1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/hover3.jpg

karbol

11-20-2008, 04:57 AM

fuhh... uploading finished...

now please enjoy the video of PINDAD APC 6X6. this video was taken on the opening ceremony...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Qt921m6OM

karbol

11-20-2008, 05:19 AM

smart bomb.. being developed by MoD R&D. soon they will tested it...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/sb3.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/sb1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/sb2.jpg

surface to surface cruise missile, another project of MoD R&D...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/cm1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/cm2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/cm3.jpg

Alfacentori

11-20-2008, 05:24 AM

I don't really know, but my first hypothesis is FH2000 Clone... CMIIW...

Yep I think you have it, I thought from the original image that it looked like a SPA system but yeah, the muzzle brake and rest of what I can see matches the pics you put up.

Alfa

fcaesarn

11-20-2008, 05:33 AM

From old soldier@kaskus.us

The never ending BTR!!!!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3411/img3956pw0.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2167/img3955cx3.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9082/img3954pb2.jpg

When will they retire it??

Amadani???

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1485/img3922gg8.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9448/img3931tp5.jpg

Renault Sherpa 3

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7719/img4024dr8.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8559/img3935dd8.jpg

Kopassus

11-20-2008, 07:16 AM

Sorry, i was unable to internet for some days.
Karbol and Fcaern and the rest, thanks for all the pics!
The Amadani looks great! And all the other new projects are so imoressive, im really suprised! Karbol do you have more info about the new OPV 60m and 'destroyer escort'?
Hopefully these projects become reality.

Someone has asked it, about the CN235-220MPA, nga tau lagi siapa, but yes on the tail there are three RWR sensors.

equilibrium37

11-20-2008, 08:08 AM

karbol

11-20-2008, 08:26 AM

Hey those pictures of the "smart bombs" and "cruise missiles" looks just like one those so called "UAV" prototypes. I remember someone saying "I bet they aint UAV prototypes, could be a cruise missile prototype". Kudos.

nope.. it's different. the 'UAV' was developed by LAPAN. this ones by MoD R&D... the officer at the hall told me, this project are not the same as LAPAN did....

fcaesarn

11-20-2008, 11:36 AM

More local produced products..
Thanks to old soldier@kaskus.us

Fasharkan's Sea Hunter

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6184/img3919dn3.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/854/img3941vq8.jpg

Pindad 105mm

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7223/img3937cr0.jpg

Vigor 4X4, I don't now which company who produce it...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3269/img3923qi1.jpg

PAL's Destroyer Escort

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2410/img3962ew1.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5493/img3966oe0.jpg

BPPT's mini UAV

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5843/img3925vs9.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6237/img3928kn5.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8149/img3924ot2.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8366/img3927vt8.jpg

Aviator Technoogy Indonesia's Micro UAV

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4610/img4018co3.jpg

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6651/img4019ie4.jpg

Dark Avenger

11-20-2008, 01:00 PM

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3269/img3923qi1.jpg

This one brars a most striking resemblance to the Israeli Wolf (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/light_combat_vehicles/wolf/wolf.htm) wheeled APC....

Aghost

11-20-2008, 08:01 PM

Karbol you're my hero, I really wanna see the exhibition but I couldn't attend for some reason... actually I really curious on Panser canon Pindad, and it's answered now by your picture.. This thread lucky to have you

Kopassus

11-20-2008, 08:08 PM

More local produced products..
Thanks to old soldier@kaskus.us

Fasharkan's Sea Hunter

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6184/img3919dn3.jpg

Pindad 105mm

Vigor 4X4, I don't now which company who produce it...

Trims Karbol!
If painted white, Fasharkan can sell the Sea Hunter as a small yacht, looks good.
The Vigor looks also great.
In the past our armoured vehicles looking terrible (Ahmad Yani, modified BTR-40 dan jip biasa dgn lapisan kaleng), but now they become more impressive every year.
Sayang meriam 105mm dari Pindad penampilan masih seperti meriam kuno.

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 09:43 PM

From old soldier@kaskus.us

The never ending BTR!!!!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3411/img3956pw0.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2167/img3955cx3.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9082/img3954pb2.jpg

When will they retire it??

I Think If They can build the new Modified BTR 50 its not a big problem, with all new improvement and technology that can put in Modified BTR 50 its better. then modified the old BTR 50 :)

with some improvement BTR 50 still tough compare to others amphibious vehicle p-)

fcaesarn

11-20-2008, 10:38 PM

I Think If They can build the new Modified BTR 50 its not a big problem, with all new improvement and technology that can put in Modified BTR 50 its better. then modified the old BTR 50 :)

with some improvement BTR 50 still tough compare to others amphibious vehicle p-)

Yes it is comparable with others amphibious vehicle, but the ages isn't!!! Hope that PAL is trying to build a new one, with modified BTR-50 design...

ahmadmz

11-20-2008, 11:03 PM

Yes it is comparable with others amphibious vehicle, but the ages isn't!!! Hope that PAL is trying to build a new one, with modified BTR-50 design...

That exactly what i mean p-)
maybe PAL Can build 500-1000 AFV for Indonesian Marines.. I Think its enough for now and if the LV7 from ROK Marines really gived to Indonesia Then PAL can Learn and studied the Vessel and make new design combining the BTR 50 and LV7 :D sounds great idea !!! heheheheh woot

Master Chief

11-21-2008, 03:43 AM

another look on panser kanon...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/kanon3.jpg

Good job & thanks to Karbol. You are Da'man.
The Panser Kanon looks like a piece of Scorpion turret placed on top of the Pindad APS 6x6.

Master Chief

11-21-2008, 03:58 AM

damn internet!!:-(

so i just add more pics slowly one by one...

the LHD design made by PT.PAL...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/lhd2.jpg

It looks like an LPD with a flat-top to accommodate more choppers.
Judging from the personnel lift capacity, it is really almost similar to an LPD. Does it have a capability to carry two landing boats as well ?

Master Chief

11-21-2008, 04:03 AM

well, they put the panser kanon on the corner.. so it is really hard to take the pics from the side...:-(

especially, when you use cameraphone just like me...

I thought a professional journalist like you has the fancy long-tele Canon or Nikon DSLR ? :)

Master Chief

11-21-2008, 04:13 AM

woo....w LHD Design By PT PAL Had Island in the upper deck Its Looks CV for me..
Hope someday PT PAL Can Build CVN too woot

CVN as nuclear powered aircraft carrier ? I hope you are kidding. CVN is a very complex system, very-very expensive to build & maintain. Only four nations in the world have CVN; three have only one-two, the other has several. Indonesia indeed need nuclear power, not for military, but for power generator. If you live in the country you will absolutely agree with me.

Master Chief

11-21-2008, 05:03 AM

smart bomb.. being developed by MoD R&D. soon they will tested it...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/sb1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/sb2.jpg

Nice try but still many questions:
1. I don't see the optic sensor on the bomb. Where is it ?
2. Max range: 200km. Does it mean you release the bomb above Bandung & it will land somewhere in Jakarta ? The bomb can glide that long ?
3. The accuracy ?
4. How would they deploy the laser illuminator ? By a ground Commando ? Airborne ?

henzai

11-21-2008, 07:52 AM

^
just wait, they gonna test all bomb next week......

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2528/bomsukhoiaugm7.jpg

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9602/bomsukhoiau2qd6.jpg

SRS Retina 2000
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4958/img4085rm3.jpg

credit: dragunova n old soldier @kaskus.com

Tunasa

11-21-2008, 11:14 AM

That SRS Retina, is that the one on the CN-235 MPA?

ggk

11-21-2008, 11:16 AM

Nice try but still many questions:
1. I don't see the optic sensor on the bomb. Where is it ?
2. Max range: 200km. Does it mean you release the bomb above Bandung & it will land somewhere in Jakarta ? The bomb can glide that long ?
3. The accuracy ?
4. How would they deploy the laser illuminator ? By a ground Commando ? Airborne ?

a stand off weapon, 200 km were quite far...but its possible if release from high altitude and using GPS guidance

henzai

11-21-2008, 07:24 PM

Panser APC Anoa 6x6

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1646/scan0009xu7.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x604.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x602.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x601.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x605.jpg

UN Version

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x607.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/6x609.jpg

PT. PINDAD : Panser Canon 6x6

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1482/scan0008vd2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/aries_wan/DSC00382.jpg

credit to: Karbol n kaskusers

henzai

11-21-2008, 07:28 PM

LIPI Night Vision Scope

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/521/img4124vw1.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6721/img4125kf1.jpg

LIPI : Optronic Control Console

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9418/img4123fe0.jpg

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9603/img4121zf5.jpg

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1139/img4120hb7.jpg

credit to:Kaskusers...

karbol

11-22-2008, 02:54 AM

I thought a professional journalist like you has the fancy long-tele Canon or Nikon DSLR ? :)

hahaha.... i was not on duty at that time. in fact i was AWOL:)... so it is just me and my 3,2megapixel cameraphone:).... glad to see you again bro...

huh... damn photobucket!!:-( i have to upload it all over again...:-(

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:35 AM

That SRS Retina, is that the one on the CN-235 MPA?

nope.. this equipment installed on NC-212 from Skadron 4...

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:37 AM

here we go again... cape deh...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cannon1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cannon2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cannon3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/kanon1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/kanon2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/kanon3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/kanon4.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:40 AM

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser5.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/panser7.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:43 AM

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/CN-235-1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/CN2352.jpg

yes.. she have RWR on her back....
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cn2353.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/patmar1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/patmar2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/PATMAR3.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:57 AM

AMADANI MILITARY VEHICLE, made by army R&D

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/rantis1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/rantis2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/rantis3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/rantis4.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 03:58 AM

sea hunter

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/seahunter1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/seahunter2.jpg

local made searider
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/searider1.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 04:02 AM

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/bo1051.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/bo1052.jpg

Aghost

11-22-2008, 04:49 AM

karbol

11-22-2008, 05:00 AM

Karbol, have you seen NDL-40 from PT.DI on that exhibition, that thing developed a long time ago and I think today they have done further development on that.. please post the picture or any info about it

nope... i dont see it... but i've seen it on other exhibition....

more pics...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/105-2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/105-1.jpg

missile mounting
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/mount.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/PM11.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/SS22.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/SS21.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 05:01 AM

from PT.PAL

OPV 60m

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/opv-1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/opv3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/opv4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/opv5.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 05:28 AM

guided missile escort (PKR)...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/pkr-1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/pkr2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/pkr3.jpg

karbol

11-22-2008, 06:11 AM

helicopter carrier...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/lhd-1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/lhd2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/lhd3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/lhd4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/lhd5.jpg

venisianblinds

11-22-2008, 06:44 AM

Do Indonesia have their own aerospace industry?

Dr.Error

11-22-2008, 06:51 AM

Do Indonesia have their own aerospace industry?
yes they have. IPTN in bandung (i live there)

karbol

11-22-2008, 07:07 AM

^^just a little correction bro... no longer IPTN, but PT.DI (dirgantara Indonesia/ Indonesia Aerospace).
FYI, the PT.DI product are :
CN-235 (co-production with Cassa/ EADS)
NC-212 (license from Cassa)
NBO-105 (license from MBB)
NBELL-412 (License from Bell)
NAS-332 (license from aerospatiale)

karbol

11-22-2008, 09:19 AM

video of PINDAD 6X6... with flypass from F-16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VbNfK0YZZk

r0m8470

11-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Thanks for the CN-235MPA picture - good stuff. I noticed the 3 antennas on the back from an Asian Aerospace picture. I was hoping that one of them would be a retractable MAD boom ..... Looks like they're part of Elettronica's ESM suite, maybe ALR733/741 series .. ?

[quote=karbol;3711445]AMADANI MILITARY VEHICLE, made by army R&D

This Amadani looks a lot like Honda Ridgeline.
http://automobiles.honda.com/ridgeline/exterior-photos.aspx

They better change the engine source - GM is not doing really good these days - about to run out of cash. Plus - the Ridgeline has a v6 with 260+ horsie .... The listed diesel V8 is good only for 150 ... ?
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Bob/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg

Wally1967

11-22-2008, 02:54 PM

Do you have any special unit (navy/Marines/army/air force/police) for anti pirates around Northern Indonesian Islands?

Great post!

Cheers

Wally

henzai

11-23-2008, 01:22 AM

Do you have any special unit (navy/Marines/army/air force/police) for anti pirates around Northern Indonesian Islands?

Great post!

Cheers

Wally

yes they have....
the navy SF from kopaska or Jala Mengkara....cmiiw

henzai

11-23-2008, 01:24 AM

PT. RCS : INDRA 1 Maritime Surveillance Radar

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8976/img4103bm8.jpg

credit to :kaskusers

Aghost

11-23-2008, 02:14 AM

This NDL-40 will be fitted on that Pacific tech truck (Local truck), and I think the project is in progress now, if it didn't showed on today exhibition so we'll see another surprise soon...
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/jatmiko_tsu/1_ROCKET-02.jpg

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:03 AM

Do you have any special unit (navy/Marines/army/air force/police) for anti pirates around Northern Indonesian Islands?

Great post!

Cheers

Wally

there are 1 team of Kopaska at Indonesian Warship (KRI)... and if it not, we have VBSS team on every warship...

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:04 AM

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:23 AM

UAV from MoD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/UAV3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/UAV2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/UAV1.jpg

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:24 AM

more UAV

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/uav4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/uav5.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/uav6.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/uav7.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/uav8.jpg

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:26 AM

cruise missile design by MoD R&D

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cm3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cm2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/cm1.jpg

karbol

11-23-2008, 03:27 AM

smart bomb design by MoD R&D

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/sb1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/sb3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/sb2.jpg

msam13

11-23-2008, 07:30 PM

Guys, for the helicopter carrier. Is that only the prototype or Are we in the process of build one?

However, the UAV and AMV looks really great. Hope Indonesia could built more sea hunter and missile guided boat, those are really useful for maritime patrol..

Thx for the great pict. Cheers..

henzai

11-23-2008, 08:19 PM

Kopassus

11-23-2008, 10:08 PM

hahaha.... i was not on duty at that time. in fact i was AWOL:)... so it is just me and my 3,2megapixel cameraphone:).... glad to see you again bro...

huh... damn photobucket!!:-( i have to upload it all over again...:-(
kasihan deh lho....
let me guess...Sony-Ericsson K800?

Master Chief

11-24-2008, 12:28 AM

Do you have any special unit (navy/Marines/army/air force/police) for anti pirates around Northern Indonesian Islands?

Great post!

Cheers

Wally

All of CT units within TNI & Polri have the capabilities to operate on water; surface or beneath.

Where exactly you mean by Northern Indonesian Islands ?

Master Chief

11-24-2008, 12:59 AM

UAV from MoD...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/UAV1.jpg

Nowadays, UAV technology has become a "supermarket technology". You buy parts, you assemble them & they can fly. In Indonesia, you find lots of them: from BPPT, R&D MoD, Universities & private companies. Though I'm not so sure whether TNI or Polri have been utilizing them or not.

However, the key capability of an UAV is actually rely on its eyes & brain. To build a drone is easy, no problem, university students can do that. But to have a long distance tele-camera, durable batteries, withstand the extreme temperature, jamming-proof comm, etc. are the real challenges, which is still limited to a few parties only.

karbol

11-24-2008, 01:06 AM

Nowadays, UAV technology has become a "supermarket technology". You buy parts, you assemble them & they can fly. In Indonesia, you find lots of them: from BPPT, R&D MoD, Universities & private companies. Though I'm not so sure whether TNI or Polri have been utilizing them or not.

However, the key capability of an UAV is actually rely on its eyes & brain. To build a drone is easy, no problem, university students can do that. But to have a long distance tele-camera, durable batteries, withstand the extreme temperature, jamming-proof comm, etc. are the real challenges, which is still limited to a few parties only.

yeah.. you right... funny thing is, when i was on the exhibition, i read the Military Technology magz. it is said that indonesia want to buy Searcher UAV...:roll:

Master Chief

11-24-2008, 01:32 AM

Panser APC Anoa 6x6

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1646/scan0009xu7.jpg

Finally they come up with a name. Anoa is an endangered wild animal & can be found only in Sulawesi island. Anoa comes from the deer family. For a 6x6 APC, names like Rhino or T-rex or Dyno or Gator or Croc sound more representative & much better than Anoa.:)

I'm surprised the thickness of the steel plate & glass plate is written on the official brochure. Normally it is kept classified.

Master Chief

11-24-2008, 02:33 AM

Guys, for the helicopter carrier. Is that only the prototype or Are we in the process of build one?

Thx for the great pict. Cheers..

They spent money for the models & they displayed them in a formal industrial exhibition event. They want to confirm & to show that they are able to build them. Now, are they going to build one ? It depends whether they get a customer or not. The only possible customer I see is TNI-AL. The next question: do TNI-AL need a helicopter carrier ship or not ?

Aghost

11-24-2008, 05:47 AM

Finally they come up with a name. Anoa is an endangered wild animal & can be found only in Sulawesi island. Anoa comes from the deer family. For a 6x6 APC, names like Rhino or T-rex or Dyno or Gator or Croc sound more representative & much better than Anoa.:)

I'm surprised the thickness of the steel plate & glass plate is written on the official brochure. Normally it is kept classified.

I see they use Renault engine for this APC, and I heard the production is sometime postponed due to late delivery of it's engine. I think Renault (France) didn't sincere to let their engine put in the Pindad APC, so it's better to find another comparable engine like Deutz, cummin, etc or better developed it locally instead of depend on Renault.

DavidDCM

11-24-2008, 06:01 AM

Finally they come up with a name. Anoa is an endangered wild animal & can be found only in Sulawesi island. Anoa comes from the deer family. For a 6x6 APC, names like Rhino or T-rex or Dyno or Gator or Croc sound more representative & much better than Anoa.:)

I'm surprised the thickness of the steel plate & glass plate is written on the official brochure. Normally it is kept classified.

Oh, never mind, when it comes to stupid animal names for vehicles, we Germans are way ahead of you. Anoa is a nice name and a beautiful and big animal. And I guess they can be quite dangerous with their big horns.

We have vehicles with idiotic sounding names like Mungo, Enok, Frettchen (meaning Ferret) or Yak. Oh, and the initial name for our new IFV Puma was Igel (hedgehog) :cantbeli:

So you see, Anoa is not that that bad :D

€dit/ BTW, you guys already have two vehicles named "Aligator" and "Raptor":
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/raptor-aligator.jpg

Aghost

11-24-2008, 06:19 AM

Oh, never mind, when it comes to stupid animal names for vehicles, we Germans are way ahead of you. Anoa is a nice name and a beautiful and big animal. And I guess they can be quite dangerous with their big horns.

We have vehicles with idiotic sounding names like Mungo, Enok, Frettchen (meaning Ferret) or Yak. Oh, and the initial name for our new IFV Puma was Igel (hedgehog) :cantbeli:

So you see, Anoa is not that that bad :D

€dit/ BTW, you guys already have two vehicles named "Aligator" and "Raptor":
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/raptor-aligator.jpg

This two vehicle have a frightening name but come with stupid face, I think anoa is Ok, Hope in the future the Army didn't come out with ugly design anymore.

Ronguild

11-24-2008, 07:41 AM

We have vehicles with idiotic sounding names like Mungo, Enok, Frettchen (meaning Ferret) or Yak. Oh, and the initial name for our new IFV Puma was Igel (hedgehog) :cantbeli:

The name PANTHER had be choosen first and rejected (for political reasons).
PUMA is OK, the SdKfz-234 was a jewel.

Dark Avenger

11-24-2008, 09:03 AM

[continuing slightly off topic]Yeah, too bad we won't see any German vehicles named Panther, Tiger, or King Tiger....The latter being an apt alternative for the Leopard 2A6.[/continuing slightly off topic]

DavidDCM

11-24-2008, 10:51 AM

The name PANTHER had be choosen first and rejected (for political reasons).
PUMA is OK, the SdKfz-234 was a jewel.

Panther was the initial suggestion, then came Igel, then they settled on Puma. Obviously they recognized that an animal that you most times see as roadkill is not a proper eponym for an hightech IFV....

BTW: Panther has already been the name of a missile tank destroyer that never went beyond prototype status in the 70's or 80's. Marder has also been used by the Nazis for a series of WWII-era German tank destroyers. And finally there is a Tiger again in the current German army, even though it's not a tank anymore. So I don't think they take the whole political taboo stuff so serious.

But this thread is about Indonesia. Sorry lads for the distraction. ^^

Kopassus

11-25-2008, 01:18 AM

€dit/ BTW, you guys already have two vehicles named "Aligator" and "Raptor":
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/raptor-aligator.jpg
They look terrible, looks like they were made at a bengkel ac/knalpot yg pinggir jalan with first world war technology.
Any news about the products of PT Sentra Surya Ekajaya?
(P2 Commando misalnya)

Johanus Bau

11-25-2008, 01:36 AM

Master Chief

11-25-2008, 03:43 AM

Dude, the Anoa is a dwarf buffalo... sapi utan lho... not a deer!

You are right, Dude, it's a buffalo family.

Master Chief

11-25-2008, 04:05 AM

BTW, you guys already have two vehicles named "Aligator" and "Raptor":

Another look of Aligator from behind:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/AlligatorTNI-AL.jpg

According to the specs: both ugly creatures were designed & built by the Navy workshop in Lhokseumawe, Aceh.

Master Chief

11-25-2008, 04:10 AM

I see they use Renault engine for this APC, and I heard the production is sometime postponed due to late delivery of it's engine. I think Renault (France) didn't sincere to let their engine put in the Pindad APC, so it's better to find another comparable engine like Deutz, cummin, etc or better developed it locally instead of depend on Renault.

I think Renault do not only supply the engine, but they also supply the overall blue-print of their VAB 6x6. As a result, the Anoa is a distant cousin of the VAB 6x6. I don't know what they call it in French... :)

Master Chief

11-25-2008, 04:12 AM

Panther was the initial suggestion, then came Igel, then they settled on Puma. Obviously they recognized that an animal that you most times see as roadkill is not a proper eponym for an hightech IFV....

BTW: Panther has already been the name of a missile tank destroyer that never went beyond prototype status in the 70's or 80's. Marder has also been used by the Nazis for a series of WWII-era German tank destroyers. And finally there is a Tiger again in the current German army, even though it's not a tank anymore. So I don't think they take the whole political taboo stuff so serious.

But this thread is about Indonesia. Sorry lads for the distraction. ^^

That's fine I think.
Have you heard any military equipment named King Kong ? :)

equilibrium37

11-25-2008, 04:28 AM

Hey welcome back master chief;
Anyways i have some pictures of TNI-AU F-16 flyovers from the IndoDef exibition, i havent got time to post them but i will soon.

But when I talked to one of the exibitors on the Pindad stand, he said that the "Anoa" was a copy of the VAB with minor modification, no blue prints from Renault Trucks.

Master Chief

11-25-2008, 04:30 AM

They look terrible, looks like they were made at a bengkel ac/knalpot yg pinggir jalan with first world war technology.
Any news about the products of PT Sentra Surya Ekajaya?
(P2 Commando misalnya)

Someone sent me this picture. It looks like the desert-tan P2 belongs to the company he works for (a private company).

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/P2.jpg

For P3; we have seen Kopaska, Kopassus & others are using it.

Johanus Bau

11-25-2008, 04:41 AM

That's fine I think.
Have you heard any military equipment named King Kong ? :)

How about this? :) he he

http://www.suddenstrike.com/misc/king_kong.jpg

msam13

11-25-2008, 10:48 AM

How about this? :) he he

http://www.suddenstrike.com/misc/king_kong.jpg

haha, seems like the WWII artilery huh?
BTW, it looks like TNI's Howitzer Mk 61.
nice one mate..:)

CAPT Blackadder

11-25-2008, 11:30 AM

Hi, I'm a newbie. Very interesting thread but never saw any pics from outside java grunts/units. These are grunts fm south sumatra.. (w/ their "expired" equipments...p-))

karbol

11-25-2008, 11:14 PM

^^welcome aboard sir...

this pics came from my friend. still from Indodefence...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9895.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9899.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9976.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9901.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9916.jpg

karbol

11-25-2008, 11:50 PM

henzai

11-26-2008, 12:19 AM

PT DI :

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3741/scan0001po9.jpg
DMV-30A

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4170/scan0002el9.jpg
DMV-30T

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5631/scan0003vr7.jpg
LHU-20TM

credit to : kaskusers

Master Chief

11-26-2008, 12:23 AM

^^welcome aboard sir...

this pics came from my friend. still from Indodefence...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC_9899.jpg

What is the purpose of displaying 40-years old flying machines at a supposed-to-be-hi-tech defence exhibition ? :-(

Also, I thought all TNI-AU F-5E are "retired" already, reserved only when needed in the future ?

Master Chief

11-26-2008, 01:02 AM

PT DI :

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4170/scan0002el9.jpg

credit to : kaskusers

What is this again ? What is the relationship with P3 Ransus made by a private company ? The size is almost the same. The look is the same.

I presume the engine is the same with DMV30A; a Land Rover engine. AFAIK, LR don't sell engines separately.

P3 Ransus specs:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/P3Ransusspecs.jpg

Kopaska's P3:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/greatmasterchief/Land%20armor/Image039.jpg

Aghost

11-26-2008, 01:04 AM

PT DI :

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3741/scan0001po9.jpg
DMV-30A

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4170/scan0002el9.jpg
DMV-30T

credit to : kaskusers

The DMV30A look like Commando P-2 from Surya Sentra Ekajaya, PT so do the DMV-30T look like P-3 Ransus, Are they have collaboration in the production of this vehicle?

henzai

11-26-2008, 02:02 AM

^
same research center...
DISLITBANG????

equilibrium37

11-26-2008, 03:57 AM

equilibrium, where's your pics bro? btw, can you spot your self on my video?:)

I'm still busy with my midterms bro; im sure ill have some spare time somtimes by the end of the week hopefully. I shall not bother posting anymore pics of the "Anoa" since karbol is the man. I'll probably post pictures of F-16's and Pindad handguns.

No biggie master chief; the F-5 flyovers yells out that even though the Air Force was under an embargo, we still can keep some of them flying. And that makes me proud.

karbol

11-26-2008, 04:29 AM

What is this again ? What is the relationship with P3 Ransus made by a private company ? The size is almost the same. The look is the same.

I presume the engine is the same with DMV30A; a Land Rover engine. AFAIK, LR don't sell engines separately.

P3 Ransus specs:

Kopaska's P3:

actually, the PT.SSE designer was a former employee of the PT.DI... check his profile: http://yayansuyanto.multiply.com/

karbol

11-26-2008, 04:48 AM

an interesting article: http://defjurnal.blogspot.com/2008/11/russia-and-indonesia-new-beginning.html

4n664

11-26-2008, 08:28 AM

I'm still busy with my midterms bro; im sure ill have some spare time somtimes by the end of the week hopefully. I shall not bother posting anymore pics of the "Anoa" since karbol is the man. I'll probably post pictures of F-16's and Pindad handguns.

No biggie master chief; the F-5 flyovers yells out that even though the Air Force was under an embargo, we still can keep some of them flying. And that makes me proud.

Embargo? What embargo?
I thought It had been lifted last year

Johanus Bau

11-26-2008, 06:39 PM

What is the purpose of displaying 40-years old flying machines at a supposed-to-be-hi-tech defence exhibition ? :-(

Also, I thought all TNI-AU F-5E are "retired" already, reserved only when needed in the future ?

Me thinks in this time of krismon, its cheaper to use the F-5s from IWY and the F-16s (on their way back from MALINDO) than to get the Sukhois over from Hasanuddin... fuel costs... mahal dong! We got defence budget cuts to deal with now! :-(

henzai

11-26-2008, 07:35 PM

PT-PAL

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8571/scan0024fu0.jpg

PT MTI indonesia

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/113/scan0013iy7.jpg

credit to: Kaskusers

Kopassus

11-26-2008, 07:48 PM

Thanks for the pictures and info all!!
Any news about RPP-M from Pindad?

Oya Mastercif, our F-5E/Fs are 'just' 28 years old, and ofcourse upgraded in 1995-2001.

equilibrium37

11-27-2008, 04:29 AM

Embargo? What embargo?
I thought It had been lifted last year

I apolagize that i wasnt more clear; i meant that the Air Force are still able to fly some of its aircrafts before the embargo was lifted and that makes me proud. And now the F-5's will be playing a major role safeguarding the Indonesian region. They can operate at much lower cost, and when necessary F-16's or Sukhois can be called in for support.

Master Chief

11-27-2008, 05:38 AM

Oya Mastercif, our F-5E/Fs are 'just' 28 years old, and ofcourse upgraded in 1995-2001.

F-5 family is based on late 1950s technology. Yes, TNI-AU F-5E/F were delivered in 1980, but they were actually built some years before the delivery. The MACAN project in 1995 was intended to upgrade mainly the avionics, not the engine nor the airframe.

Nevertheless, back to my original question, what is the purpose displaying old aircrafts during a hi-tech defense exhibition ?

I'm not against F-5E/F. It's still reliable fighter especially for patrolling mission, much more economic than Falcons & Flankers.

karbol

11-28-2008, 10:47 AM

this pics was taken by my friend... still from Indodefence 2008. enjoy guys...

credit to: Cakrabyuha@angkasareaders

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_7765.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_7766.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_7767.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_7768.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_7810.jpg

fcaesarn

11-30-2008, 11:35 PM

this pics was taken by my friend... still from Indodefence 2008. enjoy guys...

credit to: Cakrabyuha@angkasareaders

Hope that in the next indoaerospace the blue falcon aerobatic team can show their moves....

Kopassus

11-30-2008, 11:53 PM

Hope that in the next indoaerospace the blue falcon aerobatic team can show their moves....
Elang Biru? They are disbanded. They merged with Tim Jupiter to become Jupiter Blue, but thats disbanded too.

Kopassus

11-30-2008, 11:53 PM

o, sorry, maybe you mean the US Navy F18 stunt team...

fcaesarn

12-01-2008, 12:00 AM

o, sorry, maybe you mean the US Navy F18 stunt team...

nope kopassus, i mean the real "Elang Biru", hope they will be reborned on the next indoaerospace... Or maybe TNI-AU can also use their sukhoi to establish a new aerobatic team...

fcaesarn

12-01-2008, 12:49 AM

The SIGMA III Arrival at Tanjung Priok Int'l Seaport

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/01/157/kri02.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/01/157/kri01.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/01/157/kri03.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/01/157/kri04.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/01/157/kri05.jpg

karbol

12-01-2008, 12:52 AM

today, the new Sigma Class corvette, KRI SULTAN ISKANDAR MUDA-367 arrive in Jakarta.

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture017.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture020.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture030.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture031.jpg

karbol

12-01-2008, 12:55 AM

another pics..

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture028.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture076.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture053.jpg

who's prettier? the Sigma or her...?:)

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture024.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture036.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture038.jpg

Tempest

12-01-2008, 01:38 AM

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture038.jpg

cewek manis:)

Master Chief

12-01-2008, 02:32 AM

another pics..

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture053.jpg

Are these torpedo launcher tubes ? How do you launch the torpedoes from the deck ?

karbol

12-01-2008, 02:51 AM

Are these torpedo launcher tubes ? How do you launch the torpedoes from the deck ?

like this:

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/bae_cimg_UWS_launcher-brunei_latest.jpg

Aghost

12-01-2008, 05:42 AM

another pics..

who's prettier? the Sigma or her...?:)

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture036.jpg

The commander look fascinated on her, look at his expression....

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/Picture038.jpg

And to you Karbol, if you didn't get her cellphone I would disappointed on you ha..ha..

ZenOffense

12-01-2008, 10:06 AM

ZenOffense

12-01-2008, 10:21 AM

nope kopassus, i mean the real "Elang Biru", hope they will be reborned on the next indoaerospace... Or maybe TNI-AU can also use their sukhoi to establish a new aerobatic team...

with limited resources we have, i think it's a wise decision not to have a first line of aircraft in the aerobatic team because the risk to loose one in unnecessary accident is quite high.

maybe if they want to form an aerobatic team, they can use some retired or reserved airplane for the purpose.

karbol

12-02-2008, 05:04 AM

And to you Karbol, if you didn't get her cellphone I would disappointed on you ha..ha..

i really... really.. like to give you her cellphone number...

but...

if i tell you, i must kill you... hahahaha...:)

makavelli

12-02-2008, 05:06 AM

R u ZenOffense aka Adit from Canada?

equilibrium37

12-02-2008, 07:43 AM

R u ZenOffense aka Adit from Canada?

Got a problem with guys from Canada mate ? rofl Just breaking your balls.

Kopassus

12-02-2008, 09:37 AM

The commander look fascinated on her, look at his expression....

And to you Karbol, if you didn't get her cellphone I would disappointed on you ha..ha..
Yes, beautiful....looks he was unable to speak or move...only to look at her...

Karbol...nice pictures, and you have a good taste!
Where is she from? TransTV?

Kopassus

12-02-2008, 09:41 AM

nice starlet.. by the way the missile nest still looks empty, when will it be dress with "iron teeth", and how about the 1st two of Sigma Pack, is it already equipped with missile system?

it looks like a habit nowdays to buy a warship or warplane without proper armament attached to it.. sounds pitty and wasteless
Yes it is...even with MM40s on board we are defenceless against a Lekiu or Anzac class ship for example... one such ship can destroy all our Sigma's, just because we dont have a capable air defence system on our ships.

Johanus Bau

12-02-2008, 05:56 PM

Yes it is...even with MM40s on board we are defenceless against a Lekiu or Anzac class ship for example... one such ship can destroy all our Sigma's, just because we dont have a capable air defence system on our ships.

Not to mention in 2013 the Aussies will also get their first F100 Air Warfare Destroyer using Aegis system and armed with 8 Harpoons and 48 cells of SAMs.... Hopefully TNI AL can develop our air defence capability to match them. p-)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a2/F100_Alvaro_De_Bazan_in_Sydney.jpg/750px-F100_Alvaro_De_Bazan_in_Sydney.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/F100_Alvaro_De_Bazan_in_Sydney.jpg)

karbol

12-03-2008, 06:35 AM

Yes, beautiful....looks he was unable to speak or move...only to look at her...

Karbol...nice pictures, and you have a good taste!
Where is she from? TransTV?

yes she is... so what now? should we invade trans tv and kidnap her..?:)

Johanus Bau

12-03-2008, 05:57 PM

yes she is... so what now? should we invade trans tv and kidnap her..?:)

Turn your Angkasa Readers Group into 'Unit 69' and go and kidnap her (and any of her cantik friends :))....

karbol

12-04-2008, 12:22 AM

RI to send war ship to Lebanon

The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Tue, 12/02/2008 4:53 PM | National
Indonesia will send a war ship to Southern Lebanon to help build stability in the region, a top Navy official said on Tuesday.

Fulfilling a request from the UN, the Indonesian Navy will send KRI Diponegoro to Lebanon, RI Navy deputy chief of staff Rear Admiral Moekhlas Sidiq told Antara news agency on Tuesday.

"This is an honor on the international stage. In terms of land deployments (Army) the Indonesian military has been helping (the UN) for decades. March 2009 will be the first time we have been entrusted to send a war ship. This is why we are sending the newest one we own," Sidiq said.

The UN is scheduled to inspect the ship prior to its departure, Sidiq said.

"What is for certain is that this is a peacekeeping mission -- not a war. We are working very hard to get prepared," he said.
Five countries have been asked to serve in the tumultuous region for a six-month operation.

Previously, the Indonesian military has deployed 1,136 personnel to Lebanon under the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), to help restore peace and security in the region.

link: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2008/12/02/ri-send-war-ship-lebanon.html

... go guys... make us proud:)

karbol

12-05-2008, 01:37 AM

ceremony of 63th anniversary Indonesia Navy (TNI-AL). it is also know as Hari Armada.
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/al1.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/al2.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/al3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/al4.jpg

photo by antara: http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/?id=1228451235

makavelli

12-05-2008, 06:51 AM

Got a problem with guys from Canada mate ? rofl Just breaking your balls.

LoL..
offcourse not mate..
if zenoffense really is adit my friend then that's greatt...
long time i didnt see him

Aghost

12-05-2008, 04:00 PM

Heavy machine gun gattling system, named "Lodaya gatling", another koppasus R & D product, based on modification of minimi 5,56 mm & 7,62 mm with a little modification and barrel addition in ravolver method, it's become a gattling gun with cost per unit Rp 5-7 Million, it's very cheap
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/498/lodayagatlingru6.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/667/lodayagatling5av3.jpg

ahmadmz

12-05-2008, 11:05 PM

:o wowwwwwwwww
that weapon really create by Kopassus R&D? i never seen that before
it would be nice if pindad can develop and produce the weapon woot

thx for the picture and information :hug:

Kopassus

12-06-2008, 05:37 AM

Yes, thanks, very nice anti-predator toy....
I also noticed its not a six, but an eight barrel gun!! Really unique!
As Ahmad said, hopefully Pindad can make it in massproduction.

Kopassus

12-06-2008, 05:39 AM

Turn your Angkasa Readers Group into 'Unit 69' and go and kidnap her (and any of her cantik friends :))....
Karbol and Johanus...you both have really great ideas....

Kopassus

12-06-2008, 05:44 AM

kalboy

12-06-2008, 08:45 AM

Great to see TNI playing it's part on the world stage.

karbol

12-06-2008, 08:46 PM

Great to see TNI playing it's part on the world stage.

FYI sir... we have playing our part since 1957, when the first Indonesia Peace keeping force sent to egypt....

but this time, it's the first time we sent our warship... hope they can do a great job...:)

Currahee 1SG

12-06-2008, 09:02 PM

No type of recoil mechanism and that very cheap, less then sturdy looking mount. I find it very hard to believe that this system could be shot this way.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/667/lodayagatling5av3.jpg

Kopassus

12-07-2008, 12:46 AM

No type of recoil mechanism and that very cheap, less then sturdy looking mount. I find it very hard to believe that this system could be shot this way.

There is no picture of this weapon in action(firing). Hopefully its not a Airsoftguntoy.
Rp5-7jt is also very cheap....., maybe too cheap.

4n664

12-07-2008, 02:07 AM

There is no picture of this weapon in action(firing). Hopefully its not a Airsoftguntoy.
Rp5-7jt is also very cheap....., maybe too cheap.

I hate to say it but I don't think in any chance it is possible to fire a minigun with that skinny mount, average recoil from a 7.62 minigun is around 60 Kg, shouldn't be that different for the 5.56, so when you fired up that thing in that mount.... expect the worse.

Anyway I also don't see the use of a 5.56 minigun, it will suck up a 200 round magazines in seconds and its not as powerful as a 7.62 of the M132. Talk about logistical nightmare.

henzai

12-07-2008, 07:13 PM

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5858/pm2lf3.jpg

Pindad PM2

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2674/smbuc7.jpg

Pindad SMB 12.7mm

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4895/aglrz3.jpg

Pindad AGL 40MM

mengkom

12-09-2008, 05:48 AM

I hate to say it but I don't think in any chance it is possible to fire a minigun with that skinny mount, average recoil from a 7.62 minigun is around 60 Kg, shouldn't be that different for the 5.56, so when you fired up that thing in that mount.... expect the worse.
I heard that gatling gun in the picture is just a mock-up version..the real one will be produce @ 2009..
any more info about these guns?
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2674/smbuc7.jpg
looks like M2HB with dual feed modification..nice!
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4895/aglrz3.jpg
it looks like CIS 40mm AGL..license-made maybe?
i know that pindad once produce a license-made beretta bm59 and carl gustav m45...can anyone post picture or info about it? i can't find it anywhere..thx b4

Tempest

12-09-2008, 05:57 AM

karbol

12-09-2008, 06:02 AM

I heard that gatling gun in the picture is just a mock-up version..the real one will be produce @ 2009..
any more info about these guns?

looks like M2HB with dual feed modification..nice!

it looks like CIS 40mm AGL..license-made maybe?
i know that pindad once produce a license-made beretta bm59 and carl gustav m45...can anyone post picture or info about it? i can't find it anywhere..thx b4

i have pics of that guns spec... i post it later...

btw, are you mekong from youtube? why dont you post your video here...:)

mengkom

12-09-2008, 06:30 AM

double post..sorry..

mengkom

12-09-2008, 06:32 AM

are you mekong from youtube? why dont you post your video here...:)
nope..sorry i'm not him..
is that you firing SS2 in your profile pic? can you tell us your experience firing SS2? i heard that FNC family are having a ridiculously heavy trigger-pull, any difference with SS2?

Tunasa

12-09-2008, 01:32 PM

That dual feed HMG looks similar to the one Singapore made, do we get the license or is that one of the inspired by stuff.

karbol

12-10-2008, 09:49 PM

nope..sorry i'm not him..
is that you firing SS2 in your profile pic? can you tell us your experience firing SS2? i heard that FNC family are having a ridiculously heavy trigger-pull, any difference with SS2?

yes, it's me... a kopassus wannabe..hahaha:)...

there is a lot of differece between SS-1 and SS-2. the SS-2 are more comfortable. the trigger and the recoil are softer... and it is more accurate...

btw, here's the spec of Pindad SMB and SPG...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00313.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00315.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00317.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00318.jpg

... AFAIK, there are no deal between pindad and singapore. so i guess Pindad only 'inspired' by singapore guns...

mengkom

12-11-2008, 04:31 AM

there is a lot of differece between SS-1 and SS-2. the SS-2 are more comfortable. the trigger and the recoil are softer... and it is more accurate...
thx for the info!

karbol

12-11-2008, 09:28 PM

good morning everyone....

good news came from Philipina. our boys had won the AARM....:)

the result:
gold-silver-bronze
1. Indonesia 23 11 9
2. Thailand 13 12 14
3. Philippina 4 7 7
4. Singapura 2 5 6
5. Malaysia 1 2 4
6. Vietnam - 5 2
7. Brunei - 1 1
8. Myanmar - - -
9. Laos - - -
10. Kamboja - - -

pics:

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_2913.jpg

...again.. SS-2 rules!!
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSCN2942.jpg

not an indo pic. but this is interesting... since when does the Vietnam use FNC?
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_6027.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_6034.jpg

link: http://www.army.mil.ph/AARM_ACAMM/index.htm

koxinga

12-11-2008, 11:09 PM

... AFAIK, there are no deal between pindad and singapore. so i guess Pindad only 'inspired' by singapore guns...
http://www.janes.com/extract/jdw94/jdw01814.html

Title
CIS 40-AGL TO BE BUILT IN INDONESIA
Section

Appearing in
JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY
Publication date
May 28, 1994

Indonesia's PT Pindad has entered into an agreement with Chartered Firearms Industries of Singapore (CIS) to license-produce the CIS40-AGL 40 mm automatic grenade launcher. The company will make some slight modifications to suit Indonesian mountings.The 40-AGL is an air-cooled, direct blowback operated weapon which fires US and CIS 40 mm high velocity rounds to an effective range of1500 m. Modular in construction, it comprises four main assemblies:bolt and backplate; trigger and sight; feed cover; and receiver. Itcan be mounted on a tripod, pedestal or turret/cupola.The 40-AGL is in production for the Singapore armed forces for mounting on M113 APCs. To meet a local requirement CIS has developed a special training round, the TP S416A, which more closely follows the trajectory of HE and HEDP operational rounds than theUS-developed TP M385. All 40 mm grenade rounds produced in Singapore now have a one-piece base to the cartridge case to eliminate potential feed problems inherent in other similar case designs.

koxinga

12-11-2008, 11:21 PM

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00313.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/DSC00315.jpg

Looks like a M2, QCB could be Quick Change Barrel.

Kopassus

12-12-2008, 05:57 AM

http://www.janes.com/extract/jdw94/jdw01814.html

Title
CIS 40-AGL TO BE BUILT IN INDONESIA
.

Koxinga thanks for the info, Karbol thanks for the pictures...

Master Chief

12-12-2008, 11:50 AM

Master Chief

12-12-2008, 11:57 AM

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2674/smbuc7.jpg
looks like M2HB with dual feed modification..nice!

I presume the "wings" are the guides for the belts, aren't they ?
What on earth do you need a dual-feed for ?

Master Chief

12-12-2008, 12:00 PM

not an indo pic. but this is interesting... since when does the Vietnam use FNC?

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/IMG_6034.jpg

Give them AK-47,and they'll beat the hell out of everyone :)

Tunasa

12-12-2008, 12:05 PM

I presume the "wings" are the guides for the belts, aren't they ?
What on earth do you need a dual-feed for ?

Different types of ammo, normal and armour piercing?

It does look closely similar to CIS 50MG
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg05-e.htm

Master Chief

12-12-2008, 10:47 PM

Different types of ammo, normal and armour piercing?

It does look closely similar to CIS 50MG
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg05-e.htm

Thanks. Never seen this interesting concept before. Now you can use it for both anti-personnel & anti-material.

Pindad's SMB-QCB (Closed Quarter Combat ?) is indeed a licensed version of CIS 50MG.
The Wikipedia says Kostrad's Tontaipur is the 2nd operator of this MG. Anybody can verify that ?

ahmadmz

12-12-2008, 11:34 PM

Thanks. Never seen this interesting concept before. Now you can use it for both anti-personnel & anti-material.

Pindad's SMB-QCB (Closed Quarter Combat ?) is indeed a licensed version of CIS 50MG.
The Wikipedia says Kostrad's Tontaipur is the 2nd operator of this MG. Anybody can verify that ?

Just Make A Little Correction

Pindad SMB-QCB = Senapan Mesin Berat/ Heavy Machine Gun - Quick Change Barrel

I heard from Officer in PINDAD Turen Malang who tested Ammo Produce By The Factory. That PINDAD Make Some Development and Innovation To M2HB With QCB I Have Some Picture of It (I'll Post It Latter) woot

ahmadmz

12-13-2008, 12:12 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/syach/Military%20stuff/smbuc7.jpg?t=1229144836

SMB-QCB

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/syach/Military%20stuff/M2HB.jpg?t=1229144907

SMB

Looks The Handle in The Red Circle
The Handle Make Change The Barrel more quicker even if barrel is hot after continous firing ( i'm sorry if my english so worst) :(

From the Guy in The PINDAD says 'They Learn and develop QCB from FN-Belgia' same like in Minimi.
I don't know if PINDAD have license for this technology :| any info guys???

Tunasa

12-13-2008, 04:05 AM

The QCB parts is pretty common feature in modern M2HB, is it not?

The dual feed HMG is really interesting. I hope it is in production stage and not just in development. I also wish Pindad is developing some sort of anti tank or armor weapon for the troops.

karbol

12-13-2008, 08:49 AM

Sea Trial of locally made Fast Interceptor Boat. but the navy chief of staff (KSAL) seems doesn't happy for the result. so i think the navy wont buy this toys...p-)

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/FIB5.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/FIB4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/FIB3.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/FIB1.jpg

Kopaska...
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/TNI-AL/FIB2.jpg

Kopassus

12-13-2008, 11:10 AM

Do you also know why he doesnt like the craft? Too slow? Unsufficient equipment? Kurang nyaman? You took the pictures in Jkt right?
(The Regatta masih kelihatan....)

Kopassus

12-13-2008, 11:24 AM

[/URL]At last....
SUKHOI TNI AU DIJADWALKAN TIBA JANUARI 2009

[URL="http://www.dephan.go.id/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=2"] (http://www.dephan.go.id/modules.php?name=News&file=categories&op=newindex&catid=1)Jakarta - Menteri Pertahanan Juwono Sudarsono mengungkapkan, pesawat Sukhoi TNI Angkatan Udara buatan Rusia diperkirakan tiba mulai Januari 2009 secara bertahap hingga genap enam pesawat.

"Kami baru saja menyelesaikan `letter of credit`-nya ke Bank Indonesia dan diperkirakan satu pesawat akan mulai tiba pada bulan depan dan pada tiga bulan kemudian akan tiba dua pesawat lagi, begitu secara bertahap hingga enam pesawat," katanya, di Jakarta, Rabu.

Perusahaan Rusia penghasil pesawat tempur Sukhoi pada 21 Agustus 2007 mengumumkan penjualan enam pesawat tempur kepada Indonesia senilai 300 juta dolar AS (Rp2,85 triliun).

Enam pesawat itu terdiri atas tiga SU-30 MK2 dan tiga SU-27 SKM, yang akan melengkapi empat pesawat Sukhoi yang sudah dimiliki TNI Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU) sejak September 2003.

Penandatanganan nota kesepahaman bagi pengadaan enam pesawat tempur itu berlangsung saat pembukaan Pameran Kedirgantaraan Moskwa 21 Agustus 2007.

Berbeda dengan nilai di atas, dalam nota kesepahaman disebutkan bahwa nilai penjualan enam pesawat itu 355 juta dolar AS (sekitar Rp 3,37 triliun).

Semula pada 2008, tiga unit dijadwalkan tiba di Indonesia lengkap dengan persenjataannya untuk jenis SU-30MK2, sedangkan pada 2009 akan tiba jenis SU-27SKM.

Namun, karena berbagai hal, kedatangan tiga pesawat Sukhoi pada 2008 menjadi tersendat dan baru dijadwalkan tiba pada Januari 2009.

Sumber : Antara

mr. kurien

12-13-2008, 11:41 AM

congrats to all Indonesian people for the arrival of new shukoi. can i know the specifications? is it the same specs with the Indian su30mki and Malaysian su30mkm?

Tunasa

12-13-2008, 12:43 PM

Translated so that some people wouldn't complain about these being an english forum.

Defense Minister said the sukhois for the air forces is expected to arrive starting on January 2009.

"We just submitted the letter of credit to the Bank Indonesia and we are expecting the first plane will arrive next month, 2 more plane three months later and so on until we got all the six plane addition," said the Defense Minister in Jakarta on Wednesday.

The Russian announced on 08-21-2008 that Indonesia is buying 6 sukhoi with total amount of US $300 million.

The 6 planes consists of 3 SU-30MK2 and 3 SU-27 SKM and will compliment the existing 4 Sukhois.

The MOU for the 6 new planes was signed on the Moskwa Airshow? on 08-21-2007.

However, there are differences of the total cost of the plan between the MOU ($300 Million) and the announcement ($300 Million).

At first 3 SU-30Mk2 with all the weaponary planned to arrive on 2008 and the remaining on 2009.

However, on thing or another, the they have to postponed it.

Kopassus

12-13-2008, 09:45 PM

congrats to all Indonesian people for the arrival of new shukoi. can i know the specifications? is it the same specs with the Indian su30mki and Malaysian su30mkm?
Its a Su-30MK2, i think it will be the same as the Chinese ones, so without TVC and the advanced radar of the Indian Sukhois.

karbol

12-14-2008, 12:29 AM

Why Lebanon ? Why not the pirate-heaven Somalian water ?
Lebanon water is potentially more dangerous. All troublesome countries in the area (you name it, including Hezbollah) have active anti-ship missiles. For PR, Somalian water is more strategically interesting & less risky. It's more useful to the free world trade lines, including Indonesia themselves. Sooner or later, there will be Indonesian sailors get captured as hostages by the Somalian pirates.

why libanon? i think because the UN will pay the expenses... :)

karbol

12-14-2008, 05:18 AM

Do you also know why he doesnt like the craft? Too slow? Unsufficient equipment? Kurang nyaman? You took the pictures in Jkt right?
(The Regatta masih kelihatan....)

because the boat not as fast as it promote... hahaha....

Tunasa

12-14-2008, 01:07 PM

140 knots was what they claimed right? Ridiculous.

ZAYYANA

12-15-2008, 06:31 AM

Give them AK-47,and they'll beat the hell out of everyone :)

Are you sure that is FNC.....? what is the criteria...... who knows that is SS-1 from the first production.

ahmadmz

12-16-2008, 03:28 AM

Are you sure that is FNC.....? what is the criteria...... who knows that is SS-1 from the first production.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ir8GZUFfR2g/STudEWHsB8I/AAAAAAAAAVU/C4LysMHVYVk/s720/IMG_6034.jpg

From The Fore Grip and Flash Hider We can knew that's FNC PINDAD never release SS1 With Flash Hider Like That. In Others I never heard PINDAD sell SS1 to other country even some country like to bought it from PINDAD :cantbeli:

Kopassus

12-16-2008, 08:30 AM

Sea Trial of locally made Fast Interceptor Boat. but the navy chief of staff (KSAL) seems doesn't happy for the result. so i think the navy wont buy this toys...p-)

Kopaska...

I read this in Angkasa, but the pictures of the ship taken by Karbol were better!

16 Desember 2008

PT RMT Tawarkan Kapal Interceptor ke TNI AL
http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/IMG_0265_resize.JPG

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/IMG_0273_resize.JPG
http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/IMG_0323_resize.JPG
http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/IMG_0336_resize.JPG
PT Royal Mount Traders (RMT) menawarkan kapal patroli jenis FBI (Fast Boat Interceptor) 52 kepada TNI AL. Pemaparan spek teknis sekaligus uji coba laut dilaksanakan Jumat lalu (12/12) di Dermaga 1, Pantai Karnaval, Ancol, Jakarta Utara. Hadir dalam acara tersebut adalah KSAL Laksamana Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno didampingi Wakil KSAL, para asisten KSAL, Panglima Armabar, Dankor Marinir, Kadispenal dan para pejabat lain, perwakilan Mabes TNI serta Dephan.
Direktur RMT Bakerathan K atau akrab disapa Ken menyatakan, teknologi kapal ditransfer dari Amerika dengan pengerjaan oleh orang-orang Indonesia. RMT yang berdiri sekitar tiga tahun lalu dan mempunyai bengkel pembuatan kapal di Tangerang saat ini punya kapasitas produksi empat unit per tahun.
FBI 52 punya dimensi panjang 15,75 meter (51,98 kaki), lebar 3,35 meter (11,06 kaki), draught 0,85 meter (02,81 kaki) serta bobot maksimal 13,5 ton. Kapal mampu melaju dengan kecepatan maksimal 50 knot dan punya jarak jelajah 400 mil laut. Kapasias BBM mencapai 2.000 liter sementara kapasitas air 300 liter.
Usai mendengar pemaparan, KSAL beserta beberapa pejabat mencoba naik ke kapal untuk uji pakai. Lumayan lama juga kapal unjuk kemampuan. Beberapa wartawan ikut di kapal bersama KSAL, sementara lainnya (termasuk Angkasa) memilih mengikuti dengan menunggangi Sea Rider milik Pasukan Katak TNI AL.
Usai mencoba FBI 52 KSAL yang dimintai kesannya berujar di hadapan hadirin, “Manuvernya lumayan, hanya kecepatan saja yang perlu dikoreksi. Kapal jenis ini cocok untuk digunakan oleh spesial force seperti Denjaka.”
Belum ada keputusan apakah TNI AL mau membeli kapal yang ditawarkan oleh RMT ini. Usai acara dilaksanakan dan para pejabat pulang, kawasan Ancol yang sejak siang diliputi awan mendung tipis pun diguyur hujan lebat. (Roni Sontani)

DavidDCM

12-16-2008, 03:04 PM

Sigma-class corvette KRI Diponegoro (365)

http://www.abload.de/img/365kridiponegoro2vgws.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/365kridiponegoro3s3xt.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/365kridiponegoro4vhpu.jpg

What a sleek-looking ship :hug:

fcaesarn

12-17-2008, 12:25 AM

From alutsista.blogspot.com

I think these photos captured at IndoDefence, and at that time I didn't notice that this models was shown on their pavilion.

North Sea Boats X3K Trimaran

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1XZMX_E0z5c/SUeXKyeb9NI/AAAAAAAAA1A/BGF7DHyti7U/s1600-h/X3KTrimaran2.jpghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/X3KTrimaran2.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/X3KTrimaran1.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1XZMX_E0z5c/SUeXR-2TncI/AAAAAAAAA1I/-W50nRo3uGw/s1600-h/X3KTrimaran1.jpg

Dimensions :

Length (over all) : 55 meter
Beam : 16 meter
Draught : 2 meter
Main engine : 4 x C32 Caterpillar
Max speed : 40 Knots
Range : 2000 nm
Displacement : 130 tons

ZAYYANA

12-17-2008, 06:20 AM

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ir8GZUFfR2g/STudEWHsB8I/AAAAAAAAAVU/C4LysMHVYVk/s720/IMG_6034.jpg

From The Fore Grip and Flash Hider We can knew that's FNC PINDAD never release SS1 With Flash Hider Like That. In Others I never heard PINDAD sell SS1 to other country even some country like to bought it from PINDAD :cantbeli:

But, I got a source from my friend that SS1 from the 1st version have the same tipe as FNC (100%) except for the quality....

I agree with you.... I never heard that Pindad selling SS1 to the others country... but don't get mistake... usually a gun factory would like to give their product to other country as their promotion.... for example, germany gives indonesia their G36....

Kopassus

12-17-2008, 08:48 AM

From alutsista.blogspot.com

I think these photos captured at IndoDefence, and at that time I didn't notice that this models was shown on their pavilion.

North Sea Boats X3K Trimaran

Dimensions :

Length (over all) : 55 meter
Beam : 16 meter
Draught : 2 meter
Main engine : 4 x C32 Caterpillar
Max speed : 40 Knots
Range : 2000 nm
Displacement : 130 tons
Thanks for posting it. Looks really futuristic, like some sort of SF-spaceship.
North-Sea Boats, from which country?

Kopassus

12-17-2008, 09:10 AM

Kapal Indonesia Dibajak Perompak Somalia

Rabu, 17 Desember 2008 | 07:35 WIB
NAIROBI, RABU — Kelompok pembajak yang ditengarai berasal dari Somalia membajak sebuah kapal penarik Indonesia beserta awaknya yang disewa perusahaan minyak Total dari Perancis dan sebuah kapal kargo Turki di Pantai Yaman, Selasa (16/12).

Koordinator Bantuan Program Seafarers dari Kenya Andrew Mwangura mengatakan, kapal penarik sedang menuju Malaysia saat dibajak.

Kapal kargo dengan panjang 100 meter milik perusahaan perkapalan yang berpusat di Istanbul juga telah dibajak. Belum ada informasi lebih lanjut dari kejadian ini.

Salah satu juru bicara dari perusahaan minyak Total di Paris, Perancis, membenarkan bahwa telah terjadi pembajakan kapal milik salah satu subkontraktor yang bekerja sama dengan perusahaan mereka. Sebagian besar tawanan adalah orang Indonesia, tetapi kapal penarik bukan milik perusahaan minyak tersebut.

Jumlah tebusan yang diminta dari aksi pembajakan yang dilakukan oleh bajak laut Somalia tahun ini mencapai jutaan dollar AS. Aksi tersebut juga meningkatkan biaya asuransi kapal dan membuat negara lain harus mengirimkan angkatan lautnya menuju jalur pelayaran di negara Afrika tersebut.

Pemerintah AS telah mengeluarkan konsep resolusi yang ditujukan pada Dewan Keamanan Perserikatan Bangsa-Bangsa guna memberikan hak untuk negara-negara lain mengejar pembajak, baik di darat maupun di laut.

ONO
Sumber : An

Somali pirates detain 11 Indonesians

The Jakarta Post | Wed, 12/17/2008 8:31 PM | National
Eleven Indonesians were among those onboard a Malaysian tugboat that has been in the possession of Somali pirates since Tuesday, the Foreign Ministry announced Wednesday.

"We have no information on whether the pirates want a ransom or not. Usually they demand a ransom in the form of a ship," spokesperson Teuku Faizasyah said as quoted by Antara news wire.

Faizasyah said Malaysian authorities had contacted the pirates and were told that all the ship's crew were taken care off.

"We will continue to work with all related parties in efforts to rescue our fellow countrymen," Teuku said.

Earlier, a Yemeni maritime source reported that the pirates had hijacked the Malaysian tugboat on Tuesday night, a few hours after it left Yemen heading to Malaysia.

The boat, owned by Mas Indra Shipping Malaysian Sendirian Bhd., was carrying an unspecified number of crew members. However, reports suggest the crew were mostly Malaysian. (and)

fcaesarn

12-18-2008, 12:44 AM

Thanks for posting it. Looks really futuristic, like some sort of SF-spaceship.
North-Sea Boats, from which country?

It comes from fragrant water aka banyuwangi Sir... the owner comes from Sweden and bring the Swedish shipping technology to Banyuwangi, all of their boats are in corporation with DISLITBANG AL (Navy R&D)...

karbol

12-18-2008, 08:38 AM

in this near day, the TNI and Polri will conduct joint anti terror exercise. this exercise inspired by terror attack in Mumbai....

Polri Det.88 action in Indonesia stock exchange building...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/14vk11v.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/15i50jk.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/24whlc4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/29vz0it.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/2vba3av.jpg

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http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/a17cao.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/avokg6.jpg

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http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/vhswg4.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/w8kzdi.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/wqrckz.jpg

karbol

12-18-2008, 08:42 AM

RAIDER KOSTRAD and TONTAIPUR...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/24pdoy0.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/2dvn63c.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/2lv09d0.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/2nl8v3r.jpg

another photo link: http://foto.inilah.com/topik.php?id=5253

video link: http://www.liputan6.com/video/?program=news&id=170034&m_id=772018&page=1

Master Chief

12-18-2008, 12:06 PM

But, I got a source from my friend that SS1 from the 1st version have the same tipe as FNC (100%) except for the quality....

I agree with you.... I never heard that Pindad selling SS1 to the others country... but don't get mistake... usually a gun factory would like to give their product to other country as their promotion.... for example, germany gives indonesia their G36....

The 1st version of SS1 (SS1-V1) was manufactured goddamn 20 years ago. And why would you send it to other country if yourself knew you weren't capable of satisfying the domestic demand ?

Denjaka's G36 were purchased using goddamn Uncle Sam dollar. The HK416 then maybe was a promotional item.

Master Chief

12-18-2008, 12:16 PM

in this near day, the TNI and Polri will conduct joint anti terror exercise. this exercise inspired by terror attack in Mumbai....

Polri Det.88 action in Indonesia stock exchange building...

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/34o37yq.jpg

The biggest mishap in Mumbai's terrorists attack was the clowns in CT Commando outfit were almost goddamn 10hrs late reaching the scene. The terrorists had plenty of time to kill & to fortify themselves.
It won't likely happen in Indonesia. There are too many Commandos available in many places.

Did you watch the CNN when the Commando ninja leader gave a press conference ? What a clown.

Master Chief

12-18-2008, 12:23 PM

Somali pirates detain 11 Indonesians

The Jakarta Post | Wed, 12/17/2008 8:31 PM | National
Eleven Indonesians were among those onboard a Malaysian tugboat that has been in the possession of Somali pirates since Tuesday, the Foreign Ministry announced Wednesday.

"We have no information on whether the pirates want a ransom or not. Usually they demand a ransom in the form of a ship," spokesperson Teuku Faizasyah said as quoted by Antara news wire.

Faizasyah said Malaysian authorities had contacted the pirates and were told that all the ship's crew were taken care off.

"We will continue to work with all related parties in efforts to rescue our fellow countrymen," Teuku said.

Earlier, a Yemeni maritime source reported that the pirates had hijacked the Malaysian tugboat on Tuesday night, a few hours after it left Yemen heading to Malaysia.

The boat, owned by Mas Indra Shipping Malaysian Sendirian Bhd., was carrying an unspecified number of crew members. However, reports suggest the crew were mostly Malaysian. (and)

I had warned you a few days ago... Better to send that KRI Diponegoro to Somalian water than Lebanon...

Aghost

12-18-2008, 06:09 PM

I had warned you a few days ago... Better to send that KRI Diponegoro to Somalian water than Lebanon...
We can't do it alone there a lot of cost and risk we have to pay, it's should be UN authority to put Somalia water under their control and assign joint patrol on that area and we can send our troop and ship then. But I still confound why UN still have no action about Somalia water crisis.

nata4190

12-18-2008, 07:46 PM

The biggest mishap in Mumbai's terrorists attack was the clowns in CT Commando outfit were almost goddamn 10hrs late reaching the scene. The terrorists had plenty of time to kill & to fortify themselves.
It won't likely happen in Indonesia. There are too many Commandos available in many places.

Did you watch the CNN when the Commando ninja leader gave a press conference ? What a clown.

Its a unfair to belittle them by calling clowns or any other derogatory remarks, one must undestand the severity of the incident with multiple targets hit almost simulataneously, the Indian NSG did the best they could under the pervailing circumstances.

Master Chief

12-18-2008, 11:05 PM

Its a unfair to belittle them by calling clowns or any other derogatory remarks, one must undestand the severity of the incident with multiple targets hit almost simulataneously, the Indian NSG did the best they could under the pervailing circumstances.

How about the victims ?
It's very unfair for the victims or the family of the victims. Should the CT Commando arrived sooner, they have could minimize the number of casualties. They could eliminate the terrorists much faster.

There were multiple targets, yes, but only three, not ten. And the number of Commando is g.....n 200 people !

This is the Indonesian CT Teams must learn ! And please no classic politician-type BS excuses; we do our best, we don't expect this attack, the terrorists are well prepared, there are multiple targets, bla...bla...bla...

karbol

12-19-2008, 01:23 AM

more pics from join CT ex. taken from today pics, thanks to joker...:)

http://i40.tinypic.com/20938mb.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/28i19qh.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/ft6dl.jpg

note: that's good looking SS-1R5... with foregrip...

karbol

12-19-2008, 01:34 AM

again from today pics... thx Lancero:)

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff119/lancero55/dezembro/20081218044654ENLUS0158034712295756.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff119/lancero55/dezembro/20081218044703ENLUS0158034812295756.jpg

karbol

12-19-2008, 01:36 AM

thanks to Vaman...:)

http://i44.tinypic.com/1214d4g.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/10mspw6.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/k1qtn8.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2jbo4fb.jpg

nata4190

12-19-2008, 08:35 AM

How about the victims ?
It's very unfair for the victims or the family of the victims. Should the CT Commando arrived sooner, they have could minimize the number of casualties. They could eliminate the terrorists much faster.

There were multiple targets, yes, but only three, not ten. And the number of Commando is g.....n 200 people !

This is the Indonesian CT Teams must learn ! And please no classic politician-type BS excuses; we do our best, we don't expect this attack, the terrorists are well prepared, there are multiple targets, bla...bla...bla...

Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.

Kopassus

12-19-2008, 10:24 AM

Beautiful pictures! Thanks! Which unit on the last two posts?

Kopassus

12-19-2008, 10:34 AM

Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.
Such an attack is really unpredictable without a good intelligencenetwork.
But the Indian police wasnt prepared at all, i also didnt expected such powerfull country with nuclear weapons acted so amaturistic and slowly.
The normal police was only armed with wooden sticks, the reinforcements with obsolete rifles, bulletproof vests and equipment.
Hopefully they learned from this, improve their weaponry and equipment, and will have trainings with GSG9 and special forces/CT units from neighbourcountries.

ahmadmz

12-19-2008, 11:14 PM

Beautiful pictures! Thanks! Which unit on the last two posts?

From Badge in left shoulder and the weapons they use IMI Micro Galil (unit at the car) and Daewoo K7 (picture escort the VIP) its looks like Kostrad Tontaipur and Raider Unit

Thanks to Supplanter that post in Today's Pic! Friday, December 19, 2008

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8288/44422968id7.jpg
Den 81 SatGultor Kopassus Use Hk MP5 With Rail System

ahmadmz

12-19-2008, 11:49 PM

Thanks to VAMAN

http://i44.tinypic.com/xfc29x.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/14mcap4.jpg

Soldiers of Indonesian Special Forces Commandos (KOPASSUS) take part in a show of force ahead of a major anti-terror in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Dec. 19, 2008. Thousands of personnel will be involved in the drill which will be held on Sunday ahead of Christmas holiday in the wake of Mumbai attacks. (AP / Irwin Fedriansyah)

Kopassus

12-20-2008, 01:57 AM

From Badge in left shoulder and the weapons they use IMI Micro Galil (unit at the car) and Daewoo K7 (picture escort the VIP) its looks like Kostrad Tontaipur and Raider Unit

Den 81 SatGultor Kopassus Use Hk MP5 With Rail System
Thanks all for the great pictures!
Our SF improve all the time...im really proud of it!

fcaesarn

12-20-2008, 09:40 AM

Thanks all for the great pictures!
Our SF improve all the time...im really proud of it!

Don't forget that we need a good national security intelligence capability to.. I hope BIN will always gather information related with terrorism plan.. It's better to prevent rather than to counter the terrorism act...

aswp01

12-20-2008, 02:00 PM

Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.

I agree.

Terrorists needs only to get it right just once and the result is terrible. Plus terrorists have the advantages of initiatives. Law enforcers (Police, military etc) do not have that luxury and it is extremely difficult for them to be right at all times.

DavidDCM

12-20-2008, 05:02 PM

Anyone still know JASGU 3? Found 2 more photos of it:
http://www.abload.de/img/0012te7y.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/0011whx3.jpg

fcaesarn

12-21-2008, 05:51 AM

Some pics from the drill at Borobudur Hotel,

credit for we_supratman @ kaskus

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/gultor1.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/gultor2.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/gultor3.jpg

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q430/jhon_ipenk/gultor4.jpg

equilibrium37

12-21-2008, 08:37 AM

Those SAT81 guys look pretty menacing.

Tempest

12-21-2008, 08:44 AM

Some pics from the drill at Borobudur Hotel,

credit for we_supratman @ kaskus

wow.. that's fast. I just like saw the news segment on the massive drills on Channelnewsasia

ahmadmz

12-21-2008, 09:49 PM

Original Posted in This Weekend's Pics - Saturday/Sunday, December 20/21, 2008

Thanks to everyone that post the magnificient picture :)

Original Posted by VAMAN
http://i41.tinypic.com/15pk1ur.jpg

Djoko Santoso Inspect Special Forces Unit

http://i43.tinypic.com/11ch8hk.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/bgrxvd.jpg

Special Forces Unit Rappeling With K9 Unit

Original Posted By Lancero
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z299/lanceropics/dezembro1/20081219034115ENLUS0158128512296580.jpg

Gegana

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z299/lanceropics/dezembro1/20081219040856ENLUS0158129412296597.jpg

Kopassus

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/lanceros/dezembro1/20081221070226ENLUS0158253212298429.jpg

Rappeling in Paradise (Raider Kodam Udayana)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/lanceros/dezembro1/20081221070333ENLUS0158253312298430.jpg

Raider With SS1 V5R and ACOG Local made by Pindad

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/lanceros/dezembro1/20081221071402ENLUS0158253412298436.jpg

Den 88 Polda Bali

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/lanceros/dezembro1/20081221073055ENLUS0158253612298446.jpg

What u aiming soldier??? (^^)! (Raider Kodam Udayana)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/lanceros/dezembro1/20081221073942ENLUS0158253712298451.jpg

Original Posted By Big Popeye
http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/8cc4b7c81db5547846d91bd8b2bf57b8.jpg

http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/e5d2332835d86f3babedb3d1149a62a3.jpg

Gultor Kopassus in Action
rofl:hug:

ahmadmz

12-21-2008, 09:59 PM

Indonesia Show Of Force. The Terrorist Will thinking twice :)

ahmadmz

12-21-2008, 10:42 PM

fcaesarn

12-22-2008, 12:39 AM

Indonesia Show Of Force. The Terrorist Will thinking twice :)

Yes they will think twice, they will re-plan their action, learn from TNI counter terror TV-footage, they will analyze TNI deficiencies from it and Build a New Plan to attack their target... :cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli:

nata4190

12-22-2008, 01:07 AM

Yes they will think twice, they will re-plan their action, learn from TNI counter terror TV-footage, they will analyze TNI deficiencies from it and Build a New Plan to attack their target... :cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli:

How much can you really discern from the footages? I think as a detterence tactic the joint police/ military exercises this past week has showed alot of how our CT teams have matured both in capabilities and also supporting equipment, if I was a terrorist group, I would think twice before hitting any targets in Indonesia. These exercises was also the governments answer to the shifting pardigm of terrorist attacks switching from IED (which thanks to Den 88, many of them has been thwarted) to direct action/ assault operations in which are alot harder to defend against.

fcaesarn

12-22-2008, 02:26 AM

How much can you really discern from the footages? I think as a detterence tactic the joint police/ military exercises this past week has showed alot of how our CT teams have matured both in capabilities and also supporting equipment, if I was a terrorist group, I would think twice before hitting any targets in Indonesia. These exercises was also the governments answer to the shifting pardigm of terrorist attacks switching from IED (which thanks to Den 88, many of them has been thwarted) to direct action/ assault operations in which are alot harder to defend against.

The point is, we should have a good intelligence capability to prevent these kind of terrorism acts.. Yes, we can see after the drill, If there is a terrorist group do this kind of action, 100% they will die or being captured.. but how if we face a terrorist group which have no-fear to die?? They will blow the target before any CT attack them..

It's better to prevent rather to counter the terrorism act...

DavidDCM

12-22-2008, 03:42 AM

Of course, no one ever doubted that. But that is no reason not to train CT operations.

karbol

12-22-2008, 06:02 AM

from this weekend pics.. Thanks to Vaman...

i think this is a rare pics. it's not everyday you can see the denjaka in action...

http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi0c90.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/5eiipx.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/35iupas.jpg

...nata's friend...:)

Kopassus

12-22-2008, 08:49 AM

All Indonesian Special Forces Unite
(Courtessy by Antara)

http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/grab.php?id=1229674982

From Left to Right Gegana Polri, Den Bravo Korpaskhas TNI AU, Den 81 Satgultor Kopassus TNI AD, Taifib (Marine Recon) TNI AL, Denjaka TNI AL woot
Where is Densus 88 and Kopaska?

Its for me also difficult to see the difference between Densus 88 and Gegana if they all wear black overals..

ggk

12-22-2008, 02:26 PM

edit... thanks mod

ggk

12-22-2008, 02:37 PM

please

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Argyll

12-22-2008, 03:48 PM

Thread locked till it gets cleaned up !!!!

Aghost

12-22-2008, 06:01 PM

^^^^^ shut your mouth idiot moron.... 1 st post...reported.

Thanks ggk we appreciate it, this moron should not break our friendship.. I believe Administrator will secure the intruder.

ggk

12-22-2008, 06:19 PM

Thanks ggk we appreciate it, this moron should not break our friendship.. I believe Administrator will secure the intruder.

you should see my public profile...sad really.

Aghost

12-22-2008, 06:37 PM

you should see my public profile...sad really.

Yeah I see it, this moron intrude your profile.. Just think it's crap passing by, you still have a lot of friend here, and for MP please post pictures of our Navy done joint patrol and exercise in Malacca strait to prevent pirate attack

DavidDCM

12-22-2008, 06:39 PM

What a retard that guy was. Let's hope it's over.

Hehe, you have a very customized profile. I think I've never clicked on it before :oops:

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Yonkav 8 (Batalyon Kavaleri 8) from Jawa Barat during an exercise in Kalimantan Timur, 18th June 2008:
http://www.abload.de/img/latgab20080bfpo.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/154532pjhyl.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/11908pcexo.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/11907pmg4w.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/11902py7db.jpg

nata4190

12-22-2008, 10:30 PM

The point is, we should have a good intelligence capability to prevent these kind of terrorism acts.. Yes, we can see after the drill, If there is a terrorist group do this kind of action, 100% they will die or being captured.. but how if we face a terrorist group which have no-fear to die?? They will blow the target before any CT attack them..

It's better to prevent rather to counter the terrorism act...

Deterrence is prevention my friend

fcaesarn

12-24-2008, 04:41 AM

Deterrence is prevention my friend

I C, but it should be discussed more...

By the way, more CT drill photos from angkasa-online.com

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/PERIKSA%20PASUKAN.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/DENSUS%2088.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/GABUNGAN.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/SALAM%20KOMANDO.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/BRAVO.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/RAIDER%20323.jpg

http://www.angkasa-online.com/photo/image/TONTAIPUR.jpg

samourai

12-24-2008, 11:13 AM

do you have a d pictures of the indonesian version of the CIS 50 HMG ?
it is using only in light vehicule ?

karbol

12-24-2008, 10:35 PM

do you have a d pictures of the indonesian version of the CIS 50 HMG ?
it is using only in light vehicule ?

please check page 144,145,146 sir....

but i never see it mount on vehicle...

karbol

12-24-2008, 11:07 PM

this is most interesting article for me... check it out:

INDONESIA PRODUCES SUKHOI BOMB
19 Jan 2006
The Indonesian Defense Industry is ready to produce bombs for the Sukhoi aircraft and other standard aircrafts for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). The 100 kilogram caliber bomb named P100 has been produced by the Research and Develpment Division of the TNI Air force HQ.
“It is of good quality, but we can only produce them in small quantities at the moment since our orders are limited,“ informed the R&D Defense Department Head, Lilik Hendrajaya to Tempo in Jakarta recently.

Indonesia now owns four Sukhoi aircrafts. But since it was purchased in 2003, the Russian made aircrafts have never been armed with weapons. The main reason for this was limited budget.
The TNI Air Force Chief of Staff Air Marshall Djoko Suyanto has confirmed that the Air Force will purchase weapons system from Russia for the Sukhoi planes as soon as possible. “But if can locally produce good quality weapons, then we won’t have to purchase them from abroad.” he promised.
The Sukhoi bomb, made in Indonesia was produced in 2005, a joint work with the TNI Air Force and CV Sari Bahari from Malang, East Java. According to the R&D Division Head of the TNI Air Force, First Air Marshall J. Subagyo, the pilot test had already been implemented early this month.
Subagyo guarantees that the bomb is of good quality, but admitted that they cannot produce the bombs in large numbers since this would also need a bigger budget. “The main point is the good will to use local products. ” he said with much hope.
Lilik is in agreement with Subagyo. The P100 bomb is not manufactured with a missile but Lilik is sure that such difficulties can be overcome by our TNI Air Force since we also have the knowledge to produce bombs using missiles.
The bomb is 1.130 millimeters long, weighing 100-125 kilograms, and has a diameter of 273 millimeters. The bomb is made from the nodular metal for its body, VCN 15 steel is used for the lock to be attached to the aircraft, and the ST-37 for its tail, which is 410 millimeters long.
Still about weapons for the TNI, yesterday the Department of Defense was given an offer that was conveyed by the Dutch Amabassador, H.E. Dr. Nikolaos Van Dam to the Minister of Defense Juwono Sudarsono, that there is a possibility that PT. PAL will produce the product.

photos:

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/dscn1701-putih.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/live-bomb.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/24032008064.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/barong1978/12032008063.jpg

article link: http://www.saribahari.com/2008/12/09/indonesia-produces-sukhoi-bomb/#more-167

photos link: http://www.saribahari.com/2008/08/07/practice-bomb-p-100-120/#more-49

all credit to CV.Sari Bahari

...i hope next time we can build our own R-77...:)

Kopassus

12-25-2008, 12:38 AM

Thanks Karbol! Good news! Altough every 3rd world country can make free fall bombs... But now we aren't dependend from foreign sources for only free fall bombs for our Sukhois...

"The P100 bomb is not manufactured with a missile but Lilik is sure that such difficulties can be overcome by our TNI Air Force since we also have the knowledge to produce bombs using missiles."

Yeah...weapon systems like "rudal cannon". Hopefully Lilik isn't involved with this program, because he really sounds stoned..

Hope fully in the future we can make ASMs and guided bombs like Kh29.

Kopassus

12-25-2008, 12:43 AM

http://www.saribahari.com/2008/12/09...bomb/#more-167 (http://www.saribahari.com/2008/12/09...bomb/#more-167)

"Aku bangga produk Indonesia" , with on the picture white soldiers and American jets...

I thought the 2,75" rockets were already produced by IPTN.....

SOF

12-25-2008, 04:38 AM

Looks good. Nise equipment p-)

ayanami_tard

12-25-2008, 05:16 AM

looks like a practice bomb lawl

@Kopassus:not quite,malaysia isn't produced their own bombs for sukhois,and no initiative for that

nice effort though(i wish malaysia done the same)

alsadiyarto

12-25-2008, 12:16 PM

^^^ Really?...not even the practice bomb? any reason why?

fcaesarn

12-25-2008, 11:04 PM

karbol

12-26-2008, 12:26 AM

my source said that santa clausski (from rusia) has landed in Hasanudin AFB in Makassar today (as i post this)... he is riding the giant AN-124, with a crismast gift: SU-30Mk2!!!

any pic will be nice, since i'm sick and have to bedrest...:-(

fcaesarn

12-26-2008, 01:14 AM

Kopassus

12-26-2008, 01:25 AM

Maybe CV. Sari Bahari is the IAe's SubCon for FFAR rocket.... Nice info Kopassus, thanks...
Hehe.. the link was posted earlier by Karbol...

Aarh! Karbol! Why youre sick at this very moment?!? Cant you delay it?

Fcaesarn, how many Su-30MK2 are inside? 2?
Really nice christmasgift...
Oya, Selamat Hari Natal ke2 ya, kpd semua!!

Kopassus

12-26-2008, 01:42 AM

[/URL]SUKHOI TNI AU UJI COBA BOM P-100
[URL="http://www.dephan.go.id/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=2"] (http://www.dephan.go.id/modules.php?name=News&file=categories&op=newindex&catid=1)Jakarta - Dua pesawat jet tempur Sukhoi TNI Angkatan Udara (AU) berhasil melakukan seluruh uji coba bom latih P-100 di Kabupaten, Takalar, Sulawesi Selatan, Selasa.

Dalam ujicoba yang berlangsung sejak Senin (22/12) itu, pesawat tempur Sukhoi 27/30 melaksanakan latihan uji coba penembakan "air to ground" (penembakan dari udara ke darat) di Air Weapon Range/AWR Takalar itu menggunakan jenis bom latih P-100, yang merupakan produk dalam negeri.

"Saat ini pihak produsen telah memproduksi sepuluh bom latih P-100. Dari sepuluh itu, enam kita uji coba dalam dua hari ini. Sedangkan empat bom akan dijadikan protipe untuk diajukan ke Mabes TNI AU, Mabes TNI dan Dephan," kata Komandan Skadron Udara 11 Pangkalan Udara (Lanud) Sultan Hasanuddin, Letkol Pnb Iko Putra kepada ANTARA di Jakarta.

Ia mengatakan, dari uji coba tersebut bom latih P-100 sangat layak digunakan atau dipasangkan di Sukhoi SU-27SK dan SU-30MK. "Mungkin setelah dievaluasi lebih lanjut bom jenis ini akan kami gunakan terutama untuk latihan," ujarnya.

Bom latih P-100 merupakan hasil kerjasama Dinas Penelitian dan Pengembangan TNI AU dengan CV Sari Bahari Malang, Jawa Timur.

Bom tersebut memiliki panjang 1.130 milimeter, berat 100-125 kilogram dan diameter 273 milimeter. Bom itu dibuat dari bahan besi nodular untuk bodi, baja VCN 15 untuk suslug (cantelan untuk dipasang di pesawat) dan ST-37 untuk bagian ekor, dengan panjang 410 milimeter.

Sumber : Antara

mengkom

12-26-2008, 06:27 PM

X-mas gift from russia.. first two su-30mk2
http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/26/157/sukoi4.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/26/157/sukoi3.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/26/157/sukoi5.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/26/157/sukoi2.jpg

http://foto.detik.com/images/content/2008/12/26/157/sukoi1.jpg

http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/grab.php?id=1230283313

http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/grab.php?id=1230283318

http://www.antarafoto.com/dom/prevw/grab.php?id=1230283729

credits to detikfoto & antara