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hist2004
03-15-2006, 04:16 PM
Soviet Airborne and Air Assault Forces

Afghanistan’s rugged terrain and the enemy guerrilla tactics foreordained an especially important role for airborne and air assault forces in the conduct of various combat missions. At the very start of the entry of the LCOSF into the country, the airborne forces had to seize the major airfields, government centers, and vital installations in Kabul and to secure and blockade the nearby garrisons that were held by the opposition. From 28 to 30 December 1979, as part of the operations plan, paratroopers landed at the Kabul and Bagram airfields while air assault forces landed at the Kunduz airfield.

Veterans of these events recalled the planning for first landings. At each of the targeted airfields, a reinforced airborne battalion would parachute onto the field to seize the control tower and the take-off and landing strips, to neutralize the security forces, and to support the landing of the main airborne force. However, it turned out that the Afghan forces guarding the airfields were neutralized well in advance, their resistance did not hold up the operation, and the airborne forces merely disembarked from the aircraft as they landed at the airfields. The first to disembark at the airfields were groups that seized the fields and scouted the area.

They occupied the key points of the airfields, conducted reconnaissance, and supported the air landing of the main forces. Over the course of several hours, dozens of IL-76, AN-12, and AN-22 military transport aircraft landed the main body of an airborne division at Kabul and Bagram airfields. At Kunduz airfield, Mi-6 and Mi-8 helicopters landed subunits of an air assault brigade. At intervals of every one-and-a half to three minutes, aircraft landed with their rear fuselage loading hatches open and, without shutting down their engines, taxied to the end of the landing strip, where the paratroopers disembarked from the aircraft and quickly moved to their planned objectives. The empty aircraft taxied to the take-off strip and flew off, leaving the landing strip and taxi area free for the next aircraft. After the main force of the division was on the ground, subsequent flights brought in the division’s vehicles, necessary supplies, and support units and personnel.

This phase involved a very complex air traffic control process. Only a minimum number of aircraft and helicopters could be at the airfields at any one time. However, not all the aircrews worked together precisely. Several aircraft had to make more than a single landing approach or had to circle the airfield while other aircraft that had already landed were unloaded. Nevertheless, landings at the three airfields proceeded swiftly and successfully, mainly due to multiple training exercises conducted at their home airfields.

After the parachute units [regiments and separate battalions] were on the
ground, they left part of their force to secure the airfield and their stockpiled
material and set out on they’re assigned missions. Two parachute regiments that
landed at Kabul airfield secured the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Communications,
the television center, the Soviet embassy, and the microrayon—the modernized area of the city where Soviet specialists and advisers lived. They seized the army staff building, nearby depots, and President Amin’s palace, where there was some slight resistance.31 Besides this, the paratroopers established posts on dominant terrain overlooking the city and on bridges across the Kabul river. They established road blocks on the main roads leading into Kabul. The third parachute regiment, which landed at Bagram airfield, conducted a swift march to Kabul and on the morning of 31 December concentrated in the city center and deployed in the army corps headquarters building. After a week, this regiment moved to the Bala-Khisar fortress, located on the southern outskirts of Kabul. They were stationed there, together with the DRA “Commando” brigade. This fortress, rising over the southern portion of the city, blocked the approaches from the south and, further, controlled the center of the capital. This fortress played a decisive role in suppressing the February 1980 revolt in the city. The airborne and air assault forces in the LCOSF in Afghanistan were assigned to an airborne division, an air assault brigade, a separate parachute regiment, and two separate air assault battalions assigned to separate motorized brigades. The airborne division had three parachute regiments, an artillery regiment, and other specialized units. Each parachute regiment had three battalions and a special troops subunit.

The parachute battalion had three parachute companies and artillery, air defense, and reconnaissance subunits. Depending on the assigned mission, the parachute regiments and subunits could be reinforced with artillery, engineer, and reconnaissance subunits. Also, aviation control groups might be detailed to support coordination with supporting aviation. The weapons and combat vehicles assigned to airborne and air assault forces were less powerful and capable than those assigned to the motorized rifle units and subunits. At the same time, the weapons and combat vehicles were specially designed to meet the needs of these sky-assault forces. They were shorter and lighter so that they could be carried by aircraft and airdropped by parachute.

Thus, the BMD-136 is 2.2 times lighter and 1.2 times shorter than the BMP-
1. It still packs a lot of fire power. It has the 73mm cannon that can fire fragmentation and shaped-charge rounds. It has a co-axial machine gun and two bow-mount machine guns. The machine guns were particularly useful during an assault against lightly armed enemy subunits that were often encountered in the depth of the enemy rear.

The low clearance of the BMD-1 was an important design feature. It allowed the crew to use any cover, even an insignificant terrain fold, to hide the vehicle during combat. The designers incorporated a mechanism in the BMD-1 that allowed it to raise some 30 centimeters from its covered position, fire at the target, and then lower itself again to the ground. Further, it might move forward, after firing, at minimum clearance to new cover. This gave the BMD-1 a high rate of survivability and allowed it to achieve surprise fire. The BMD-1 exerted a reduced ground pressure, a feature that was very important in an area where the enemy widely employed land mines. There were many occasions when a BMD-1 would run over a mine that did not explode, although it would have exploded with the passing of any other combat vehicle. The BMD is air-transportable on military airlift transport aircraft and helicopters. When necessary, the BMD may be dropped by parachute. The BMD has special brackets for attaching the parachutes and the rocket-braking system. Besides all this, the BMD-1 has a powerful water jet propelling system that allows it to cross unaided any water obstacle with a speed of 10 to 12 kilometers per hour.

Airborne and air assault small arms were distinct from those of the motorized rifle forces. They had folding stocks that shortened their length almost by half. These shortened weapons were more suitable for air landing and also when riding in a combat vehicle or when dismounting the vehicle. Paratroopers and air assault troopers were generously and suitably equipped. This included a Panama field hat, cloth cap, or helmet; airborne coveralls or the winter airborne field uniform; jack books, jump boots, or sneakers; the PD-54 airborne rucksack; a flak jacket; an assault rifle, machine gun, or grenade launcher; a bayonet; two or three F-l or RG-42 hand grenades; eight to ten magazines loaded with ammunition plus additional ammunition; two to four signal or illumination flares; two to four orange smoke canisters; a UHF radio; compass and flash light; matches; first aid kit; and dry rations. Belts of machine gun ammunition were carried draped on the personnel or in metal ammunition cans.

There were special features involved in preparing subunits and individuals for an airborne assault in Afghanistan. It was absolutely necessary to thoroughly conceal the planning for an air assault as well as the time and LZ. In the USSR, preparing subunits for an air assault was conducted in an assembly area, whereas in Afghanistan, this preparation was conducted in the base camp. Measures taken depended entirely on the nature of the upcoming mission and concluded with the preparation of personnel, armaments, and equipment and stockpiling necessary supply and equipment reserves.

Personnel training included training of the commanders, staffs, and force. During commander and staff training, particular attention was paid to the enemy and his tactics, the terrain in the combat zone, and earlier battles fought under similar circumstances. This training would usually include a command post map exercise as well as a communications exercise.

Personnel training in the subunits included weapons firing, vehicle driving, battle-drill, reconnaissance, land navigation, and individual skills. Special training was devoted to the selection and fortification of firing and observation positions; combat in built-up areas; movement in the mountains; first aid and evacuation of the wounded; and hand-to-hand combat. Mission planning was conducted on maps or aerial photographs. This complicated planning since it was impossible to plan on the actual piece of ground. Missions were given to the subunits and coordination was conducted at the base camp using a map or a terrain model.

Significant effort was put into misleading the enemy as to the timing and mission plan. Misleading the enemy included deception, disinformation, surprise, and conducting the mission with comparatively small forces. Planning for the mission was based on the commander’s concept. In order to preserve the secrecy of the plan, it was worked out by a limited circle of men, usually the commander, the chief of staff, the chief of the operations section or his deputy, and one other officer of the operations section. They worked out the combat order and combat instructions. The staff worked out the plan for moving men, vehicles, armaments, and material by helicopter and worked out an air assault schedule and a coordination-planning table.

The coordination planning table depicted the primary missions; which subunits would carry them out; the order in which they would be carried out; the order in which forces and resources would be committed to the mission; the objectives; the timing; the phase lines; the communications plan; and the signals for recognition, warning, target identification, and guidance. Reconnaissance was very important when preparing for an air assault and combat. Reconnaissance was conducted not only with the organic forces and resources of the airborne division, air assault brigade, and parachute regiments, but also with 40th Army assets. Further, they used reports and information from agents, the DRA KHAD, the DRA Sarandoy, Afghan Army units, and local inhabitants. On the basis of this data, they would modify the commander’s concept of the battle and missions to the subunits and insert corrections in the battle plan and the utilization of forces and resources.

Sometimes the commander would send a reconnaissance group into the enemy rear area beforehand in order to get more reliable information about enemy activities. They would be inserted by helicopter or would walk in. Final preparation of the formation was completed at the base camps or while the assault subunits were assembled at the airfield or helipad. After final preparations, the forces would board the helicopters. An air assault in the mountains often required almost twice the number of helicopters of normal circumstances. The air temperature and the height above sea level of the helipad and LZ affected the lifting power of the helicopter engines and reduced their load-carrying capacity. For example, a Mi-8 helicopter can carry 24 fully equipped troopers at sea level, but in the mountains, no more than 12, and in some cases even fewer. It was necessary to emphasize these special features when determining the time and movement of the air assault. In conventional warfare, air assaults would land in the enemy rear after a breakthrough of enemy defenses and when the success of the offensive was assured. In Afghanistan, in order to achieve surprise, the assault flight went in before the start of the movement of the main ground forces or as these forces began to move from their base camps to the combat zone.

Further, in order to deceive the enemy that an air assault was going into another LZ, the helicopters had to first fly to another likely LZ and then make a subsequent sharp shift in the flight route and approach to the actual LZ. Depending on the mission, the air assault force might be a parachute platoon up to a parachute battalion. Usually the force was reinforced with mortar crews, AGS-17 crews, flame-thrower operators, and sappers. Air assault forces went in on transport helicopters and armed lift ships. Helicopter gunships provided fire support along with fighter-bomber aircraft.

The combat formation for an air assault usually consisted of several groups. The first group was composed of Mi-24 HIND helicopter gunships, MIG-21 jet fighter-bombers, and SU-25 FROGFOOT close air support jet aircraft. This group suppressed enemy air defenses and conducted preparatory fires on the LZ. Mi-8mt armed helicopter lift ships followed this group and landed a group that seized the LZ. Part of this group were FACs who adjusted helicopter gun ship strikes. The main body of the air assault followed this group in a flying column. Mi-6 helicopter transports and Mi-8mt armed helicopter lift ships flew in pairs, maintaining their intervals and distance, which made the flight safer, provided freedom of maneuver, and aided control. The number of helicopters in this group depended en their availability and the size of the assault force. In the event that there were not enough helicopters to lift the entire main body at once, the main body was carried in several lifts, although this had a negative impact on surprise, simultaneity, and massing of forces.

A covering force over-flew the main body and provided fire support to the air assault force. There were two to four Mi-24v HIND helicopter gunships in this group that overflew the area, maintaining radio contact with the assault force and the FACs. When necessary, they would suppress enemy weapons that had survived the initial aerial preparation of the LZ.

A group of helicopter gunships followed the main body to provide fire support to the assault force, and, when necessary, another group followed to continue to suppress enemy air defenses. A combat command and control group accompanied this trail group. The command and control group had one or two MI-9 VZPU37 command and control helicopters that were linked to an airborne AN-26 command and control aircraft. The helicopters circled the LZ at low altitude. Due to the nature of the war, enemy air defenses were not always fully suppressed. Usually tactical air assaults would land simultaneously at several LZs. If there were no suitable LZs in the area, the lift ships would hover one to two meters above the ground while the assault troopers would jump out. In this case, it was best to use helicopters that had been lightened by removing the gun mounts and doors.

After they landed, the first group of assault troopers, supported by helicopter gunships, killed the enemy on the LZ and in the area, captured the high ground, and dug in. Sappers searched the area and neutralized mines. Scouts looked for the enemy and provided more exact data on enemy actions to the assault commander, the FACs, and the FOs.

There were a limited number of LZs in the mountains that were large enough to accommodate a company or battalion landing. Therefore, the Soviets had to use a number of smaller LZs and a smaller force to accomplish the mission. The scattered subunits quickly moved from the LZs to an assembly area where the commander assembled his forces and resources into an assault group. Sometimes it happened that a subunit of the main body landed on one of these small LZs and had to immediately defend itself and start the battle under extremely inauspicious circumstances.

In November 1981, a reconnaissance company of a parachute regiment was involved in an air assault 70 kilometers north of Kabul. Senior Lieutenant A. I. Lebed38 commanded the company. The company had six LZs, located one to three kilometers from each other. The area in which the LZs were located encompassed some 30 square kilometers. Each LZ would only handle one helicopter at a time, so the other helicopter of the pair had to circle waiting for its turn to land. The assault landing took over twice as long as usual. This in turn delayed the assembly of the assault force and their subsequent movement to the designated line. As a result, some of the targeted enemy managed to escape the assault group’s strike.

In the course of combat in Afghanistan, the air assault units and subunits sometimes conducted combined arms offensive and defensive ground combat, and other times they conducted specialized missions. In the first instance, their tactics and techniques did not differ from the tactics of the motorized rifle forces. In the second instance, tactics as a whole depended on the specific requirements of the combat mission. These missions were usually establishing a blocking position, conducting ambushes, conducting raids, and escorting convoys. Establishing a blocking position from the air was done to prevent the withdrawal of the enemy from an occupied region and the arrival of enemy reinforcements from outside the area. Air assault forces were inserted in advance or during the course of the operation.

Blocking positions were established in advance when and where it was established that the enemy had concentrated in that region and the terrain and situation allowed the secret air landing of subunits. With the goal of preserving secrecy, the air assault subunits seldom landed on the site of the designated blocking positions. They landed elsewhere and then walked to the site. Thus, in the course of one of these operations, conducted to the east of Kabul in November 1985, a parachute battalion39 landed some eight kilometers from the designated blocking positions. Due to the rugged terrain and the necessity of moving at night, it took over four hours to move to the site. As a result, part of the Mujahideen withdrew from the region and hid in the mountains. Air assault forces established blocking positions simultaneously with the advance of ground forces only when it was impossible to conduct the air assault landings in advance, when the sweep was conducted only over part of the region, when the enemy was held in position, or when the situation demanded that surprise be added during the course of combat. It was difficult to establish surprise-blocking positions and avoid personnel, weapons, and equipment losses. An example of such an air assault occurred in February 1982 in a green zone in Paghman some 15 kilometers to the northwest of Kabul. Ten minutes before the main attack, 12 Mi-8tv helicopters lifted a reconnaissance company and a parachute company from the same parachute regiment from the Kabul airfield. The flight took a wide detour around the region and, after a 30-minute flight, approached the LZ from the north. The ground force had already entered the green zone and begun forcing the enemy out of his strong points. However, the Mujahideen put up a stubborn fight, counting on the arrival of reserves or eventual withdrawal into the mountains.

From 0630 to 0650 hours, the air assault force landed on the eastern slope of the mountain adjacent to the green zone. This was in plain view of the Mujahideen and cut off their withdrawal route. Panic broke out in the Mujahideen camp. The Soviet forces took advantage of this panic and quickly and completely destroyed a strong enemy detachment. Air assault landings to block the enemy could be conducted at one location or at several locations simultaneously. An air assault into one LZ was conducted when and where the terrain would not permit establishing a perimeter around the entire region and where there was only one possible withdrawal route for the enemy.
For such a mission, the senior commander required highly centralized control of forces and resources and comprehensive support. This significantly eased coordination. However, such air assaults expended a significant amount of time. It was inevitable that the enemy group would leave the area when he saw a large number of helicopters landing at a single site or saw the ground force blocking subunits begin withdrawing to their own lines.

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hist2004
03-15-2006, 04:25 PM
It was more effective to establish blocking positions with air assaults on several LZs, located along the perimeter of the area where the enemy was concentrated. However, this demanded a high degree of professionalism by the helicopter pilots who had to accurately navigate while flying nap of the earth over rugged terrain. It also demanded a high degree of professionalism by the air assault squads and platoons who had to act independently for a long period of time while separated from the main body.

In November 1981, a multiple blocking insertion took place to trap a strong enemy group in the green zone near Estalef—some 15 kilometers southwest of Bagram. A reinforced reconnaissance company from a parachute regiment landed at dawn to interdict a possible western withdrawal route from the green zone. The air assault force boarded their helicopters at their assembly area at the southern part of Kabul airfield. Eight Mi-8 helicopters were supposed to land simultaneously on six LZs located along a seven-kilometer front. The landings were supposed to be complete 30 minutes before the ground force began to move.

Due to the rugged terrain, the helicopter crews were unable to quickly find
the LZs. It took longer to land the assault force than planned. However, the uncoordinated
landings of several groups at different times prevented the enemy from determining the Soviet intent and launching counter actions. In the course of an hour, the troopers seized the LZs and started to move to their blocking positions, destroying small groups of the enemy as they went. At 0700 hours, the movement to the blocking line was complete. There were 250 Mujahideen in the trap who were quickly destroyed. Air assault subunits conducted ambushes deep in the enemy area to interdict weapon caravans and capture prisoners and documents. These ambushes were very difficult and dangerous. Subunits selected for ambush had to function independently for a period of several days far from their base camps while under the constant threat of discovery and attack by the enemy. However, the high state of individual training of the air assault troopers and paratroopers allowed them to accomplish most difficult missions successfully.

Air assault troopers and paratroopers conducted ambushes in conjunction with practically every operation. Each ambush was different, due to differences in mission, objective, ambush composition, and available resources. The more frequent ambushes were those conducted to interdict caravans carrying weapons and ammunition across Afghanistan’s international borders with Pakistan and Iran. As a rule, a parachute company was assigned to interdict each caravan route and was reinforced with machine gunners, AGS-17 crews, and sappers. The company would conduct two or three ambushes, each of which consisted of a reinforced parachute platoon.

Preparation for the conduct of an ambush began with the analysis of reconnaissance information received from various sources. After conducting an appraisal of the terrain, the planners selected the ambush site, determined the optimum course of action, determined the forces and resources necessary to carry out the mission, and specified the combat formation, the withdrawal plan, and those measures taken to deceive the enemy.

Preparation of personnel, weapons, and equipment began simultaneously alongside planning. Training was conducted in hand-to-hand combat, movement by stealth, observation, first aid, and evacuation of the wounded. Armaments and equipment were carefully checked for good working order and combat reliability. Soldiers conducted range fire and adjusted their sights; mounted and checked night sights; and did the same for weapon silencers. The platoon leaders and squad leaders conducted personnel training.40 Subunits were transported to the ambush site secretly on armed Mi-8tv transport helicopters. During the flight, the helicopters conducted several false insertions in the region of the ambush to deceive the enemy. The troops exited on the last insertion, which was conducted an hour to an hour-and-a-half before sunset. The insertion was some five to eight kilometers from the ambush site. The subunit moved on foot under cover of darkness. Reconnaissance and the strict observation of security measures were important. Reconnaissance and security elements moved fairly close to the main body, communicating by special light and sound signals and short-range radios.

When the subunits reached the designated area, they occupied suitable observation and firing positions, camouflaged them, and scouted the terrain looking for the enemy. Reconnaissance often discovered possible enemy movement routes against which they could deploy forces and resources. Scouting also disclosed sites for mines and other obstacles. Scouts also marked the withdrawal routes from the ambush site to the assembly area and on to the pick-up LZ. The scouts determined the security positions and defensive positions around the LZ. The difference between an ambush established by a motorized rifle subunit and an ambush established by a parachute subunit was that a group of armed transport-helicopters or helicopter gunships was part of the parachute subunit ambush. In order to ensure tight coordination with the helicopters, an FAC with the necessary communications gear accompanied each platoon. During the entire time that the subunit was on ambush, the helicopters were waiting in a concealed, secure hide position or at the nearest Soviet regimental base on strip alert. The ambush could summon the helicopters with a special predetermined radio signal. Two helicopters would fly to the ambush site and conduct fire support for the ambush commander as directed by the FAC.

The ambush opened fire on the enemy at close range. In the course of battle, the Soviets would capture prisoners, weapons, and ammunition. Enemy groups, attempting to flee, would be intercepted by specially selected groups positioned on probable escape routes. These groups would also ambush the enemy. The conduct of the ambush considered enemy activity; the size and composition of the enemy; the training, strength, and combat readiness of their own troops; and the terrain.

Ambushes organized as above were quite effective. In July 1986, a parachute company was ordered to conduct an ambush. The commander selected 35 men. Armaments included four PKM machine guns, four RPKS machine guns, and ten MON-100 directional mines. Every paratrooper had two units of fire, four hand grenades, and a low-power radio. An FAC and two sappers accompanied the paratroopers. Four Mi-8 armed helicopter transports were assigned to carry and support the ambush party. Further, four Mi-24 HIND helicopter gunships were kept on alert at their base camp to support the ambush. The ambush party flew from their base camp at 1930 hours on 21 July and flew nap-of-the-earth toward their ambush site. Every 10 to 15 minutes, the helicopters would conduct a false insertion. At 2030 hours, the helicopters landed the ambush party some six kilometers from their ambush site. After this, the helicopters flew to the pick-up LZ and set down. The pick-up LZ was 15 kilometers from the ambush site. The ambush party took reconnaissance and security measures. At 2200 hours, the ambush party secretly moved to the designated area and established two ambush sites on a probable enemy route. The company commander organized observation, determined the firing positions for his weapons, and showed the sappers where to place the mines.

At 0400 hours, the observers reported that a column of six trucks was moving down the road toward the ambush kill zone. The trucks maintained large intervals between each other so they could not all be destroyed simultaneously. Two trucks were outside the kill zone and attempted to escape. However, the commander had called for helicopter support at the start of the combat and helicopter gunships caught up to the trucks and destroyed them. At 0700 hours, the sun was up and the mission was complete. The company withdrew, covered by part of its own force, and moved to the assembly area where the helicopters were waiting. They loaded their trophies and personnel on board the aircraft and flew back to base camp.

Raids were conducted mainly to seize and destroy weapons and ammunition dumps, command posts, training centers, small strong points, and enemy groups. Most often, these raids were conducted against military depots that were located in the mountains and difficult for ground forces to reach. As a rule, the security on these depots consisted of several dozen personnel armed with small arms. On the approaches to these depots and on the tops of dominant terrain the Mujahideen established observation and defensive positions manned by mortar and DShK machine gun crews and shoulder-fired air defense missile gunners. The Mujahideen manned these positions around the clock and buried mines around the observation posts.

To take out such a target with a raid required a group of 20 to 40 raiders armed with assault rifles, knives, and plenty of hand grenades. To transport this group to the objective required from two to six helicopters. If the enemy had a strong security and air defense force, two to six helicopter gunships would reinforce the raid to provide fire suppression.

Colonel V. A. Gorshkov participated in several raids and was decorated with two Cavalier Orders. He remembers how every raid was thoroughly prepared for. The parachute battalion commander, the raiding parachute company commander, and the helicopter pilots planned the raid together. They carefully studied the terrain using maps and aerial photographs, determining the more advantageous flight paths and the combat formation after landing. They calculated the time required to fulfill the mission. The personnel trained on ground similar to that of the objective. During the course of training, they paid particular attention to quick, precise actions by the helicopter crews and raiders. Most often, raids were conducted at noon, when the Mujahideen were eating and involved in worship and religious rituals. The helicopters flew nap-ofthe-earth to approach the objective secretly. As a rule, they flew along the side of the highest mountain and conducted the air assault by landing close to the depot. If there was no LZ, the raiders quickly jumped out of the helicopters and rapidly rushed the depot to seize it from all sides. At the same time, when necessary, the helicopters fired on the objective to prepare it for the raiders. The raiders quickly captured and destroyed the objective. After they accomplished their mission, the raiders moved to the assembly area and called for pickup by the armed transport helicopters. The helicopters returned the raiders to their base camp.

Frequently, airborne and air assault units and subunits were detailed to provide security and convoy escort for military and economic cargo. The basic method of carrying out these missions was to establish temporary guard posts along the convoy’s route of march with the help of helicopters and to inflict a preventative strike on enemy groups preparing to attack. V. M. Varushinin, the former chief of staff of a parachute regiment, recalls providing security and convoy escort along the Jalalabad-Barikot highway during June and July 1981. Four air assaults landed four parachute companies in the mountains along the banks of the Kunar River. The troopers seized the dominant heights and interdicted the enemy paths leading to the road.

In a number of instances, the airborne and air assault subunits conducted preventative strikes on moving enemy groups and small detachments. These actions took the form of a raid. Subunits would board helicopters that would fly nap-of-the-earth to secretly penetrate into the enemy rear. The subunit would quickly land and rapidly attack and destroy the enemy. In the event that a significant enemy force was spotted, several parachute or air assault companies and helicopter gunships were detailed to deal with it.

The experience of employing airborne and air assault forces in Afghanistan showed the exceptional complexity of organizing and supporting the withdrawal of subunits from the combat zone after they completed their mission. Withdrawal was conducted by stages, as a rule, under the cover of helicopter gunships and a specially constituted rear guard. The rear guard occupied and fought from a series of lines along the path to the assembly area. During this rear guard battle, special efforts were made to find and destroy enemy air defense weapons, which would be particularly dangerous to the troopers during the boarding and take-off of the helicopters.

As a whole, combat experience in Afghanistan demonstrated that airborne and air assault forces could be used expediently to fulfill special combat missions, most of which could not be effectively accomplished by motorized rifle units and subunits. The more productive types of combat carried out by airborne and air assault forces were ambushes, raids, establishing blocking positions, and providing security to convoys. The success of these types of combat depended greatly on the preparation of commanders, staffs, and airborne and air assault troopers, as well as the combat mastery of the helicopter gun ship crews. Editors’ comments: The airborne, air assault, reconnaissance, and Spetsnaz troopers, along with those of the two separate motorized rifle brigades, executed the bulk of the offensive combat.

They conducted the raids, ambushes, and deep battle that brought the fight to the Mujahideen. While motorized forces were involved with security of garrisons, LOCs, cities, and airfields, the airborne and air assault troopers launched the majority of combat assaults. Tactical innovation naturally appeared earlier among these forces. Perhaps 10 percent of motorized rifle officers served in Afghanistan. A much higher percentage of airborne and air assault officers served there. During the postwar period, the influence of the airborne and air assault “mafia” was apparent, as many of these officers became the ranking officers in the Soviet Armed Forces. Although parachute assaults were not conducted in Afghanistan, air assaults from helicopters were used frequently. The Mujahideen had initial difficulty adapting to the sudden appearance of air assault forces in their territory. The Soviets had invested a great deal of attention to the development of airborne forces beginning in the 1920s. By the time the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, airborne and air assault forces were well-equipped and essential components of the Soviet military. Unlike the U.S. airborne and air assault forces, the Soviets had developed combat vehicles that could be airdropped or carried by helicopter to the landing zone. These combat vehicles included armored personnel carriers, assault guns, portable artillery, engineer vehicles, command vehicles, and reconnaissance vehicles. When a U.S. airborne or air assault unit landed, it -was on foot. When a Soviet airborne or air assault unit landed, it mounted its accompanying combat vehicles and rode to battle. When the U.S. force landed, it tried to land on or very close to its objective. The Soviet force would always land away from its objective in order to organize its force carefully before it mounted its vehicles to move on the objective.

The Soviets brought all their airborne and air assault combat vehicles along to Afghanistan. However, the rugged terrain in Afghanistan often dictated that the vehicles could not be used, due to the limited landing zones, the difficulty of lifting vehicles in the thin air of the mountains, and the nature of the terrain. Consequently, the combat vehicles that accompanied a 40th Army air assault often drove to the area where they could support the air assault troopers who landed from helicopters. Airborne and air assault combat vehicles were, by necessity, less roomier than the standard BTR and BMP personnel carriers of the motorized rifle forces. During the war, the airborne and air assault forces were supplemented with additional combat vehicles—such as the larger BMPs and BTRS. With these, the airborne and air assault forces could perform routine missions, such as convoy escort, while not wearing out their specialized vehicles. Airborne and air assault forces were elite forces in the Soviet Army and enjoyed special privileges, uniforms, and a pick of the conscripts. Since the airborne and air assault forces were involved in bringing the fight to the Mujahideen, often in the Mujahideen’s backyard, these forces experienced much of the combat and garnered many of the awards and accolades.


All text from Soviet-Afghan War by Lester Grau

Hist2004

Hellfish6
03-15-2006, 07:42 PM
Excellent, excellent post. Thank you very much. I was actually starting to conduct research on VDV forces soon.

hist2004
03-15-2006, 08:39 PM
Excellent, excellent post. Thank you very much. I was actually starting to conduct research on VDV forces soon.

Your very welcome, here is some early history to help you in a subject
(VDV) that I also study.....

The Soviet Airborne Forces, 1928-1945


Even though the Soviet Union pioneered the use of parachute troops during the 1930s, no book has yet appeared in English about the Soviet use of airborne troops in World War II. This can probably be explained in part by the fact that the few large-scale parachute drops attempted by the Soviets during the war were failures by Western standards. However, as I will attempt to show in this work, there were inherent differences in the Soviet philosophy of airborne warfare, which caused them to view many of their airborne operations in a far different light than U.S., German, or British analysts.

If at times I seem to stress the relationship between the partisans and the airborne forces overmuch, it is because the partisans were constantly considered by the Soviet High Command when planning airborne operations. Many high ranking officers, in fact, would probably have rated the reinforcement of partisan bands as the principle airborne task.

Although most writers on airborne warfare mention the Soviet airborne forces in passing, hard data on organization, strength, training, and even operations is difficult to find. Official Soviet sources would logically seem to be the best place to locate facts, but this is not the case. Through a habitual urge for secrecy or perhaps unwillingness to admit how costly in casualties some airborne operations were, little mention is made of the airborne troops in official Soviet histories either in English translations or in the original Russian language editions. The best data on operations is usually obtainable from German sources, though many mistakes were made by the Germans because of the confusion inherent among defenders against airborne landings. In many cases when developing my organizational charts, I have had to sift data from German, Soviet, American, and British sources and then draw conclusions based on this data weighed against the air transport available at the time. Various sources, for example, might differ on the number of men in a Soviet airborne corps by as many as five thousand. Whenever I give strengths of units my figures are based on hard data if possible. When deductions are necessary I normally do not use a strength figure unless at least two different sets of deductions justify the conclusion.

I have arranged the chapters dealing with weapons, equipment, and training before the combat history of the Soviet airborne forces during the war to give the reader a better background for understanding the limits and advantages under which the Soviet airborne trooper was operating.

Though Guards divisions have frequently been called the elite of the Red Army, they are a manufactured elite. During World War II and continuing until today, the true combat elite of the Soviet armed forces has been the airborne trooper. I hope this work will help the reader to appreciate just how well the individual Soviet parachutist deserved this status in the war against Germany.

While other countries were just beginning to experiment with military parachutists, the Soviets had already established a military parachute school by the mid-1930s. Even more important for training airborne troops, however, had been the absorption of all parachute clubs in 1933 into Osoaviakhim (loosely translated as the “Society for the Promotion of Aviation and Chemical Defense”), a paramilitary group roughly similar to the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts and geared towards teaching skills applicable to the Soviet armed forces. In addition to parachute training, many young men and women were receiving training in flying both gliders and powered aircraft. By 1936, there were 559 parachute towers in the Soviet Union and 115 parachute training schools. In that same year members of Osoaviakhim and other civilians made 1,600,000 jumps from towers and 30,000 jumps from planes.

As a result of this intensive civilian training program, it is estimated that in 1940, over a million Soviet men and women were trained parachutists. Osoaviakhim had taught many of the most promising parachutists other military skills. Marksmanship, map reading, first aid, and physical training, for example, were included as adjuncts to parachute training. Mass jumps were made by groups who assembled after landing to undertake some “mission.” “Missions” included long hikes, “attacks” on communications objectives or factories, and what would now be called orienteering exercises.

As a result of this intensive preparation, most pre-war recruits into the Soviet airborne forces were already well grounded in basic skills when they commenced their military training. Female involvement in the Osoaviakhim parachute program also was the basis for the Red Army’s airborne doctors and nurses who jumped to give medical aid to the partisans during the war.

Since educational standards were higher for airborne recruits they normally picked up skills more quickly. Five years of schooling were required for airborne enlisted personnel and seven years for officers.

Training for enlisted men lasted four months and for officers six months. Most officer candidates had risen through the ranks and after the German invasion were usually proven combat veterans. Although jumps were made in training, and the fledgling paratroopers learned the quirks of the military transport aircraft they would be jumping from, the emphasis was on building toughness and initiative. The Soviet airborne forces were considered elite assault troops, and their training was tough enough to give them a strong esprit de corps.

Just as it is still a key ingredient in jump schools today, physical training took up a great deal of the Soviet airborne trainee’s time, and forced marches of 50 miles during training were not unheard of. Parachutists received intensive small arms training and learned to use all weapons up to and including heavy artillery and tanks. As the war progressed, Soviet parachutist training incorporated familiarization with German small arms. Since they would often be sent on sabotage missions, much time was spent during training on the use of explosives. Map reading and radio skills were also taught to all trainees. Specialized training was given to those men destined for airborne artillery, engineer, or other specialized formations, and a certain number of parachutists received training as ski troops who could be dropped into mountainous areas.

The extra two months of officer’s training was devoted to airborne tactics, command skills, and other problems of commanding airborne sections, platoons, companies, or battalions. Officers commanding brigades or corps were normally sent to the Zhukovsky (the Red Army War College) in Moscow.

Up to the beginning of World War II, Soviet military parachutists were probably the best trained in the world. The years of Soviet parachute experience had taught them the most effective training methods, and their huge pool of partially trained manpower allowed them to choose the top recruits.

After many of the original airborne units had been chewed up when used as shock troops in an attempt to stop the German advance, there is some indication that the newcomers in the reconstructed airborne units did not reach the prewar level of training. This was, however, true in most other countries as well since the necessities of war caused training programs to be speeded up to meet manpower needs. The Soviet airborne trooper remained better trained, better educated, and better motivated than the average Red Army infantryman, and their tenacious fighting ability and the large numbers of decorations they won show that Soviet paratroopers deserved their elite status throughout the war.

Regards,
Hist2004

hist2004
03-16-2006, 03:08 PM
Here is an account from what must have been a Muslim deserter from
the Afghan Gov’t Army because he refers to his adversaries as “Soviet
soldiers” instead of my former comrades. –Hist2004

An interviewee who spent considerable time fighting on the mujahideen
side after deserting described the following operation, which he witnessed
personally:

“This happened on September 26, 1986, in Nangrahar Province. We had
taken up positions close to the top of a mountain overlooking a valley
and were shooting at the Soviets with BM-12’s and mortars. Our markaz
was not too far from our positions. Then all of a sudden a VDV company
of about 90 men appeared and attacked us from behind. They had climbed
straight up the mountain during the night. They captured the first post and
came to within a hundred meters from where our storage was with all of our
BM-12’s and ammunition. They stopped, however, because they did not know
that and because the mujahideen offered very strong resistance. We fought for
two days there, and many people were killed. Before that I had thought that
the Soviet soldiers are not worth anything, but I must say that I had never
seen anything like that. We had good food there and I was in good shape, but
I would not have been able to climb that mountain. It was simply impossible
for me. These were really tough guys”.

Hist2004

hist2004
03-16-2006, 11:15 PM
Airborne recruits are selected from volunteers based on the results of physical, psychological and intelligence tests. An airborne recruit, unlike an infantry recruit in the ground forces, undergoes rigorous six-month training in weapons, special techniques, urban and mountain warfare. Because airborne soldiers receive special commando training and are taught how to operate in small detachments with minimum control from above, their tactical skills level is fairly high. Airborne troops maintain multi-faceted combat and reconnaissance capabilities, and are highly maneuverable.


Hist2004

Hellfish6
03-17-2006, 12:45 AM
Good stuff, Hist! I'm printing out all this stuff at work to keep for my files. :)

hist2004
03-17-2006, 10:00 AM
Good stuff, Hist! I'm printing out all this stuff at work to keep for my files. :)
Hellfish6-

Here is some information on the DShB (Air Assault units) that I provided
in a previous post:

There have been many references to VDV (Airborne) and Spetsnaz (special forces) service in
Afghanistan. The Air Assault troopers were also very active in combat operations, but don’t seem
to get the same recognition. I know that there was a separate Air Assault Brigade (56th) and
Air Assault Battalions assigned to the 66th & 70th Motorized Rifle Brigades. These troopers (DShB)
were also screened (VDV & Spetsnaz recruiters had the pick of conscripts after induction) based on
physical ability, etc. as the VDV and special purpose troops were (although I have read that soldiers
selected for DShB were considered third tier compared to VDV & Spetsnaz). Part of the lack of
acknowledgement is that Air Assault troopers operated and performed similar missions to the other
units engaged in counter-insurgency operations. VDV & DShB mode of operation, whether it be
heliborne, BMD-mounted, or on foot parallel, making distinguishing these units difficult. Troopers of
both units also wore the distinct blue and white-stripped t-shirt of the Landing forces (Airborne).

As I mention previously, the DShB (Air Assault troops) operated extensively in Afghanistan along
with the VDV (Airborne) & Troops of Special Designation (Spetsnaz). Training for the DShB Brigades
was very similar to that of the VDV. Recruits reporting for training for these units were screened for
athletic and political reliability. They would be told that they have been selected for a special purpose
unit, and tactical training would include simulated combat in specially constructed models of Afghan
villages and hand-to-hand combat. In a significant departure from normal Soviet practice, the training
commanders would be majors training men for their own units in Afghanistan. Many of the sergeants
helping with the training were also Afghan veterans.

For those readers unfamiliar with the deployment structure of Soviet forces in Afghanistan, the counter-
insurgency forces (Spetsnaz, VDV, DShB) are defined as those units, and subunits that regularly engage
in genuine antiguerrilla operations, often on the Mujahideen's turf. They're easily distinguished from the
large-scale combined arms operations in which conventional tactics and overwhelming firepower are
brought to bear. As a rule, counterinsurgency operations are small, seldom conducted above battalion
level, and highly mobile.

The majority of the DShB units tended to be Slavic, Ukrainian, or Belorussians. Many came from Siberia
and Altai Region, which are cold and mountainous. Regular troops were well aware of the personnel of the
DShB units and knew that they had received special training and were physically fit. Not all of the DShB
members were parachute trained. I believe there were two types of DShB units: Air-Assault Brigades and
Air-Mobile Brigades. The main difference is the presence of parachute battalions in the air-assault brigades,
and they're somewhat larger than the air-mobile brigades.

The DShB were often mistaken for the GRU Spetsnaz. The mujahideen had a difficult time identifying
particular counterinsurgency units. So much so that they referred to the Air Assault battalions of the
66th Motorized rifle Brigade as "Spetsnaz". Additionally when the mujahideen used the term "Spetsnaz"
or "Commandon" (Afghan term for Soviet commandos) they are referring more to tactics than any type
of identifiable units. A DShB battalion was sometimes attached to a Motorized Rifle Regiment to provide
a counterinsurgency capability. The DShB brigade stationed at Samarkhel near Jalalabad (66th Motorized
Rifle Brigade) had three DShB battalions and three Infantry (Pekhota) battalions, for a total of around
4,000 troops.

It is difficult to provide a clear functional delineation between the assault forces and the other counter-
insurgency units since all of them engaged in similar operations and used common tactics at times. The
DShB would specialize in laying ambushes on resistance supply routes, especially at night. They proved to
to be particularly effective and had created considerable difficulties for the guerrillas. DShB units were
also used as a reserve strike force in the operations of others. DShB operations were apparently seldom
conducted by units larger than company size, and emphasis is placed on mobility and surprise.

The officers assigned to the DShB units were amongst the best available indicative of the special status
accorded these units. A major who had recently graduated from the Frunze Academy (Russian equivalent
to the US Army's Command and General Staff College) with distinction was described as the commander
of a DShB-like battalion in the Pansher Valley engaged in caravan interdiction and convoy security on a
"daily basis". Normally, any Frunze graduate, let alone a distinguished one, would be given a deputy
regimental command slot at the very least.

Assault troops (DShB) carried out several types of operations on a regular basis. Again, very similar to the
VDV & Spetsnaz. One such operation was protecting Soviet convoys from mujahideen ambushes. This mission
required scouting the route and engaging resistance ahead of the convoys, to secure free passage. It was
usually conducted by heliborne assault troops, but dismount operations also occurred. The DShB elements
often accompanied convoys in BMD, BTR or BRDM vehicles.


Many sapper units charged with deactivating land mines also seem to have been part of DShB units. All three
types of counterinsurgency units (VDV, DShB, Spetsnaz) used specialized equipment and weapons to carry out
their operations. Silencers were used extensively on the standard-issue AK-74 automatic rifle and on the 9mm
Makarov pistol, as were subsonic rounds, and spring loaded knifes that could fire a blade up to 5 meters. The
new (at that time) AKR-Krinkov automatic rifle first made its appearance among the counterinsurgency forces.
Portable flame throwers (RPO), and disposable grenade launchers (RPG-18) were also employed, along with special
acoustic mines and a variety of night-vision devices and scopes.

Despite the success the DShB units had against the resistance, the Soviet political machine
was sensitive to losses, particularly in the last few years of the conflict. There was an effort
to keep casualties to a minimum, even at the cost of operational objectives. An example of
this occurred when a Soviet force had surrounded a 500-man mujahideen force in the Paghman
highlands. A DShB unit inserted into the area ran into an ambush and lost about 50 of its men.
The operation was called off immediately after the commanding officer learned of the losses,
even though according to troopers involved in the operation that it was only a question of time
before the resistance group would be liquidated. Political restraints, real or perceived, would
continue until the end of the conflict.

The counterinsurgency forces (VDV, SpN, DShB) consisted of about 18,000 to 23,000 troops,
which was only about 15 to 20 percent of the Soviet expeditionary force, but they bore the
brunt of all combat. The "desantniki" conducted heliborne surprise attacks on villages or tea
houses (chaikhanas) deep in resistance territory. The Soviets usually acted on a tip of suspected
mujahideen presence and were often able to achieve surprise.

In one instance, described by a prominent resistance commander, two Soviet helicopters landed
some two dozen "commandos" near a remote chaikhanas, killed 30 of the mujahideen having dinner
inside, and left-all in less than 10 minutes. Similar cases, although not as successful as that one
were reported by a number of resistance commanders indicating it was a wide spread tactic which
instilled fear in what should have been considered "safe areas".

Airborne troops were known to conduct rigorous training even while deployed
to a war zone. The Soviet military press reported that VDV units in Afghanistan
regularly engaged in live fire exercises, 14-hour forced marches and mountain-
climbing training. An article describing the physical training in a VDV regiment in
Afghanistan mentioned in passing that "there wasn't a single mission where is was
not necessary to cross canyons and scale peaks". An interesting aspect of the
perception of spetsnaz operations particularly in the 1988 period was that they
were either engaged in every major operation (special operation) or that there
presence is overestimated and there are only second-hand accounts of spetsnaz-like
activities by troops dressed like Afghan's and operating at night.

Hist2004

DE6
03-17-2006, 04:47 PM
Very interesting, thanks hist2004!

duck
03-17-2006, 08:29 PM
Airborne recruits are selected from volunteers based on the results of physical, psychological and intelligence tests. An airborne recruit, unlike an infantry recruit in the ground forces, undergoes rigorous six-month training in weapons, special techniques, urban and mountain warfare. Because airborne soldiers receive special commando training and are taught how to operate in small detachments with minimum control from above, their tactical skills level is fairly high. Airborne troops maintain multi-faceted combat and reconnaissance capabilities, and are highly maneuverable.


Hist2004


Do you mean six months advanced training after basic is completed? Half a year sounds awfully short even if you keep intense pace.

hist2004
03-18-2006, 01:18 AM
Do you mean six months advanced training after basic is completed? Half a year sounds awfully short even if you keep intense pace.

No the entire course is 6 months. Keep in mind the majority of the GRU Spetsnaz
were two year conscripts; that's training and service in Afghanistan.
The standards for the VDV training did start to slip a bit after 1984, but for
the most part the "ethos" of the VDV was instilled in the troops which enabled
them to be very effective against the mujahideen.

Hist2004

Hellfish6
03-18-2006, 01:47 AM
Could Soviet paratroopers compare to their western equivalents on a man-for-man or squad-for-squad basis? Kind of a rough question, I know, but Soviets are 2-year conscripts lead by other conscripts whereas nearly all western paratroopers are 2-4 year volunteers led by experienced NCOs.

I appreciate that the Soviet paratroopers weren't exactly light infantry centric like their western counterparts, so maybe that's a factor in their favor.

hist2004
03-18-2006, 11:59 AM
Could Soviet paratroopers compare to their western equivalents on a man-for-man or squad-for-squad basis? Kind of a rough question, I know, but Soviets are 2-year conscripts lead by other conscripts whereas nearly all western paratroopers are 2-4 year volunteers led by experienced NCOs.

I appreciate that the Soviet paratroopers weren't exactly light infantry centric like their western counterparts, so maybe that's a factor in their favor.
Yes unit to unit comparisons can be a little misleading particularly when the system of
training, and chain of command differs. The Soviet Airborne soldier (VDV) is a select
group of soldier serving in the most elite unit in the Russian Army. Remember, the term
“Spetsnaz” wasn’t discussed at all during the times of the Soviet Empire, so a recruit
entering training to be a paratrooper would most likely not even know of their existence.

The VDV trooper was the vanguard of the Soviet forces, compared to regular motorized
Rifle Infantry, he is truly an elite soldier in every regard, selection, training, and decentralization
of authority….in other words the ability to act independently, which was
unheard of in the old Soviet authoritarian system. The officers in the VDV performed
many of the functions of Western NCOs, which placed an enormous work load on the
Junior officers. Most accounts of Soviet VDV officers in Afghanistan credit them with
high performance; with many gaining the respect and admiration of their men. Afghanistan
was a junior officers war, so platoon through Battalion commanders did the
heavy work in the command structure.

Given similar missions with equal support, the Soviet VDV trooper was every bit
as capable as his western counterpart.

Hist2004

bigjeff
03-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Vert precise and detail work.Great compliment!
I m goin to make a copy for my data-base.
Thx Hist2004.

Just a small question raised in my mind.When the helicopters are unloading troops at the LZ which is under intensive fire.Are they goin to form into the groups of two.While one is unloading the troops on the ground,the other provides the covering fire for the underneath?

hist2004
03-20-2006, 10:47 AM
Just a small question raised in my mind.When the helicopters are unloading troops at the LZ which is under intensive fire.Are they goin to form into the groups of two.While one is unloading the troops on the ground,the other provides the covering fire for the underneath?

If the mission was a combat assault, as opposed to a covert insertion of a reconnaissance
group, as covert as a helicopter insertion could be (i.e. noise and sighting of helo) then
the supporting aviation assets would attempt to suppress enemy air defenses, personnel
and targets of opportunity immediately prior to the assault landing, the troopers would
debark from the helos immediately and attempt to engage and suppress the enemy. All
assault troopers would leave the helicopter as quickly as possible; forming in groups of
two as you mention and then covering while the others debarked would increase the
chances of the choppers being damaged or shot down. Many LZ’s were unsuitable as
it was, so “unassing” was done as quickly as possible.

Glad you enjoyed the thread,
Hist2004

bigjeff
03-20-2006, 08:57 PM
If the mission was a combat assault, as opposed to a covert insertion of a reconnaissance
group, as covert as a helicopter insertion could be (i.e. noise and sighting of helo) then
the supporting aviation assets would attempt to suppress enemy air defenses, personnel
and targets of opportunity immediately prior to the assault landing, the troopers would
debark from the helos immediately and attempt to engage and suppress the enemy. All
assault troopers would leave the helicopter as quickly as possible; forming in groups of
two as you mention and then covering while the others debarked would increase the
chances of the choppers being damaged or shot down. Many LZ’s were unsuitable as
it was, so “unassing” was done as quickly as possible.

Glad you enjoyed the thread,
Hist2004


So do u mean all the soviet troops can do the helo jump from the helicopters and insert into enemy terrain?

hist2004
03-20-2006, 09:34 PM
So do u mean all the soviet troops can do the helo jump from the helicopters and insert into enemy terrain?
Helicopters were the primary means of insertion for the counter-insurgency forces
(VDV, DShB, Spetsnaz). It was by no means the only method. Troops of the counter-
insurgency forces (I reference them because they were the primary units that took
the fight to the mujhideen) also went into battle in BMD, BTR or BRDM APC’s.
But helos were best suited for tactical surprise, despite the noise they generated.
Troopers jumped from the helicopters as soon as wheels touched ground; or if
the terrain didn’t permit a landing the troops jumped out once a safe enough
altitude was reached.

Hist2004

Hellfish6
03-20-2006, 09:58 PM
You a wargamer, Hist?

hist2004
03-21-2006, 09:49 AM
You a wargamer, Hist?
No, just interested in history, usually military history. I served for 4
years in the US Army, 313th MI BN, 82nd Airborne Division. I'm always
looking for facts about a conflict, no matter if it reflects positive on
a nation or negative, I want to know what really oocurred.

Hist2004

CHERK
03-26-2006, 04:24 AM
Nice work.


quote Hist2004
"Troopers of both units also wore the distinct blue and white-stripped t-shirt of the Landing forces (Airborne)."

Called тельняшка-telnyashka.

britopinion
03-26-2006, 07:55 PM
Could Soviet paratroopers compare to their western equivalents on a man-for-man or squad-for-squad basis? Kind of a rough question, I know, but Soviets are 2-year conscripts lead by other conscripts whereas nearly all western paratroopers are 2-4 year volunteers led by experienced NCOs.

I appreciate that the Soviet paratroopers weren't exactly light infantry centric like their western counterparts, so maybe that's a factor in their favor.


I think i read in Carey Schofield's book 'THE RUSSIAN ELITE' about a soviet Paratroop formation of company strength, i think, operating on the border of Pakistan in the latter stages of the war, attempting to intercept mujahadeen supply convoys.

During the operation the Soviet paratroopers insist that they came under attack during the night by a similar sized unit of Pakistani army infantry using 'fire and movement' tactics while supported by GPMG suppressive fire and a small number of light mortars (in short a classic western style infantry attack). They also describe hearing helicopter on the Pakistani side of the border evacuating Pakistani wounded during the action inducating a well rehearsed and conducted casualty evacuation procedure.

The soviet paratroops go on to say how unfamiliar they were with these 'classic' fire and movement tactics (that are so common to western or western influenced armies) and that they had never been trained in these tactics themselves. I presume that Soviet tactics in similar situations were simply a matter of suppressing the enemy using heavy weapons and then a head long rush to take the enemies positions.

The Pakistani formation eventually withdrew just before first light after inflicting considerable casualties on the Soviet paratroopers for the loss of a relatively small number of their own men, although they never managed to over run all of the Soviet positions because of the stiff resistance put up by the paratroopers.

If this account is true then in my opinion it shows that Soviet infantry training and tactics, even in elite units, from small unit tactics all the way up to and perhaps beyond company level, were far less effective than similar sized units in armies in the west or that had western influence in their training, like the Pakistanis for example.

hist2004
03-26-2006, 09:20 PM
I think i read in Carey Schofield's book 'THE RUSSIAN ELITE' about a soviet Paratroop formation of company strength, i think, operating on the border of Pakistan in the latter stages of the war, attempting to intercept mujahadeen supply convoys.

During the operation the Soviet paratroopers insist that they came under attack during the night by a similar sized unit of Pakistani army infantry using 'fire and movement' tactics while supported by GPMG suppressive fire and a small number of light mortars (in short a classic western style infantry attack). They also describe hearing helicopter on the Pakistani side of the border evacuating Pakistani wounded during the action inducating a well rehearsed and conducted casualty evacuation procedure.

The soviet paratroops go on to say how unfamiliar they were with these 'classic' fire and movement tactics (that are so common to western or western influenced armies) and that they had never been trained in these tactics themselves. I presume that Soviet tactics in similar situations were simply a matter of suppressing the enemy using heavy weapons and then a head long rush to take the enemies positions.

The Pakistani formation eventually withdrew just before first light after inflicting considerable casualties on the Soviet paratroopers for the loss of a relatively small number of their own men, although they never managed to over run all of the Soviet positions because of the stiff resistance put up by the paratroopers.

If this account is true then in my opinion it shows that Soviet infantry training and tactics, even in elite units, from small unit tactics all the way up to and perhaps beyond company level, were far less effective than similar sized units in armies in the west or that had western influence in their training, like the Pakistanis for example.
I suggest you re-read the text your "recalling". I have the book. I will
update tommorrow the account this forum member is trying to "paraphrase".

Hist2004

britopinion
03-27-2006, 05:56 AM
Perhaps i'm confusing what i've read, or mixing up several stories but i'm sure that was the book that tells of Soviet paratroops being unfamiliar with the standard fire and movement tactics employed against them by Pakistani army infantry.

I read it a long time ago and don't have the book any more so i can't refer back to it so you'll forgive me if the details are wrong, but i'm pretty sure.

Either way i read somewhere that Soviet paratroops were unfamiliar with the Pakistani tactics used against them and my point is that IF this is true then Soviet infantry tactics, particularly small and medium unit tactics, were not as advanced, efficient of effective as similar tactics used by western or western influenced forces at that time.

IF it's true then it's possible that Russian army infantry tactics have improved in the 20 years since but considering the performance of Russian infantry (even Russian elite infantry, paratroopers, naval infantry etc) in Chechnya throughout the 90's that dosn't seem to be the case, at least up until fairly recently. Perhaps the Russian move to professionalise it army in more recent years has made a difference but that remains to be seen.

britopinion
03-27-2006, 09:16 AM
Please don't mis-understand me i'm not saying that the Soviet army of the 80's and the Russian army of the 90's were bad armies, on the contrary, considering the thinking during the cold war in the USSR and the Soviet emphasis on training for a large armoured war in Europe (as well as the willingness to trade large military casualties for tactical and strategic gains on the battlefield) they were more than adequate i think.

However when conflicts came about that had less emphasis on armoured warfare and much more emphasis on the use of infantry largely independent of support from armour and artillery it's evident that the level of training for Soviet/Russian infantry was lacking.
This isn't to say that Soviet/russian infantry havn't carried out any successful operation during the last 27 years, they have, but on the whole their performance could have been better. As i said that may have changed now but that was certainly the case during the conflict in Afghanistan and during the ongoing conflict in Chechnya.

hist2004
03-27-2006, 10:28 AM
It’s not that the Russians were unfamiliar with the Pakistani tactics; what you read was
one of the counterattacks the Soviet 9th company (part of the 345 Separate Airborne
Regiment) faced during Operation Magistral. (This was the famous 9 Rota). On January
6th the Soviet intercepted a radio signal that helicopters had lifted off from Pakistan and
were in route to their location. (This was at noon, not at night as you wrote) About 450
Pakistanis dressed in mujahideen garb landed and quickly moved in on the Russian defenders.
(They did this professionally) What was stated is that the Russians knew that proper orders
were being given by the way the Pakistani (Black Storks) were using fire and maneuver.What
I mean by professionally was that the mujahideen were not always coordinated in their assaults;
the timing of there advances were sometimes delayed which would put other elements at risk.
This assault was being carried out by well-trained cadre,which the Russians recognized immediately.
To suggest that the Russians didn’t understand fire and maneuver or basic infantry tactics is
misguided, to say the least.

Hist2004

Azide
03-27-2006, 04:05 PM
However when conflicts came about that had less emphasis on armoured warfare and much more emphasis on the use of infantry largely independent of support from armour and artillery it's evident that the level of training for Soviet/Russian infantry was lacking.


Did you even read anything that was posted in this thread before coming to this conclusion?

maple.leaf
03-28-2006, 02:46 PM
I served for 4 years in the US Army, 313th MI BN, 82nd Airborne Division.

Greetings! I served 4 years in the 2/504 - I wonder if we were neighbours?

I actually wanted to enlist as a 96B, but my recruiter told me you had to be an NCO to get that MOS - so I enlisted as an 11B instead. Of course, once I got to Bragg I saw that he'd misled me.

Anyways - this is excellent work you've posted here. I share your view that the early Soviet airborne forces are grossly neglected - as is the general Soviet contribution to the winning of WWII. I'm really looking forward to your book getting published.

STRIKE, HOLD!

hist2004
03-28-2006, 06:05 PM
Greetings! I served 4 years in the 2/504 - I wonder if we were neighbours?

I actually wanted to enlist as a 96B, but my recruiter told me you had to be an NCO to get that MOS - so I enlisted as an 11B instead. Of course, once I got to Bragg I saw that he'd misled me.

Anyways - this is excellent work you've posted here. I share your view that the early Soviet airborne forces are grossly neglected - as is the general Soviet contribution to the winning of WWII. I'm really looking forward to your book getting published.

STRIKE, HOLD!
Thanks man, I'm sure I was there before your time, I was in 1985-89. I
ETS'd in June 89 with leave built up; actual ETS was 6 Aug 89. The guys
in my unit jumped into Panama that December (after the Rangers faced
the heavy Sh##t). I heard they dropped our VSE-2 (communications hummer)
in a swamp, but i was never able to confirm. My roomate went
SF just as I got out (18E) we were 31C (single channel radio operator).
He fought in Gulf I but I lost track of him after that.

Hist2004

Hellfish6
03-28-2006, 08:02 PM
Hist, you're writing a book?

hist2004
03-28-2006, 08:14 PM
Hist, you're writing a book?
No, nothing like that, thanks to all for the positive comments in this thread.

Hist2004

bigjeff
03-29-2006, 08:19 PM
Helicopters were the primary means of insertion for the counter-insurgency forces
(VDV, DShB, Spetsnaz). It was by no means the only method. Troops of the counter-
insurgency forces (I reference them because they were the primary units that took
the fight to the mujhideen) also went into battle in BMD, BTR or BRDM APC’s.
But helos were best suited for tactical surprise, despite the noise they generated.
Troopers jumped from the helicopters as soon as wheels touched ground; or if
the terrain didn’t permit a landing the troops jumped out once a safe enough
altitude was reached.

Hist2004

thx for the explanation mate.

Slava
08-05-2006, 10:16 AM
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