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[BlackRain]

'Al Qaeda' in Commons

By MICHAEL LEA

A TERROR suspect allegedly linked to al Qaeda has visited the Houses of Parliament — as the guest of a Labour peer.

Former detainee Mahmoud Suliman Ahmed Abu Rideh even sat in the Commons public gallery for a debate.

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Invite ... Abu Rideh

He was invited to Westminster on Tuesday by Lord Ahmed, who met him at Regent’s Park mosque three weeks ago.

The father of five — suspected of being a money man for terror groups — was given a SECURITY sticker for his Parliamentary visit.

And he boasted yesterday of sitting in the Commons gallery, adding: “It was very interesting.”

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis last night said Abu Rideh had been able to “walk around one of the UK’s biggest terror targets”.

Lord Ahmed confirmed he invited Abu Rideh, 34, to see him — and said he QUIZZED him over the suspected al Qaeda link.

He said: “I gave an appointment to see him this week. He came to see me as a Parliamentarian. It was my duty to hear what he had to say.

“He came through the peers’ entrance. He went through the security check and I met him at security. He did not leave me for one second.
“I did not take him into any public gallery.

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Visit ... Houses of Parliament, where terror
suspect Abu Rideh roamed

“I asked him, ‘Have you ever been linked with al Qaeda?’ and he denied it.”
Lord Ahmed said he escorted Abu Rideh from the building after the interview in his office.

It is not known when the suspect got into the Commons gallery.
Abu Rideh explained the visit by saying: “I was meeting some people to help me with my problem.”

The Palestinian suspect came to Britain in 1995 and was given permission to remain permanently in 1998.

He was detained as a terror suspect in December 2001, accused of
fundraising for groups linked to al Qaeda.

David Blunkett directly accused him of the link to Osama bin Laden’s organisation when Home Secretary.


Siac judge Mr Justice Ouseley said Mr Abu Rideh had been granted bail because of a deterioration in his mental health. He was was eventually freed on bail on Friday 11th March 2005.

Abu Rideh must wear an electronic tag. He must live at his home address, and observe a curfew between 7pm and 7am. He will not be allowed to meet anyone by prior arrangement outside his home without Home Office permission. Police and other officials will be able to carry out searches in his home.

Abu Rideh will only be allowed one fixed telephone line. Mobile phones and computers which can access the Internet are not permitted in his home. He must notify the Home Office if he intends to leave the country. He will be limited to one bank account and barred from transferring money without the Home Office's consent.


Abu Rideh has admitted to officials in a statement that he “used to travel around Afghanistan, disguised as a beggar, with large sums of money hidden in a plaster cast on his leg”.

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Lord Ahmed ... quizzed Abu Rideh

Another document from the Special Immigration Appeals Commission said he admitted fundraising for a school which had “some of the world’s most wanted men” among its parents.

He was first held in London’s Belmarsh jail. But he was then moved to Broadmoor secure hospital in Berkshire after he slashed his arms and wrists.

The SIAC bailed him in 2003 and gave him a Control Order, which places restrictions on his freedom outside.

Abu Rideh returned to his three-bedroom council home in West London — but now wears a tag and must be there from 7pm until dawn.

Lord Ahmed, 48, comes from a working-class background in Rotherham, South Yorks, where he used to run a chip shop.

He entered the House of Lords in 1998, becoming the first Muslim to receive a life peerage.

In November he spoke out against parts of the the Government’s Terrorism Bill, which he said restricted political views.

He has previously called for jailed cleric Abu Hamza to be stripped of his citizenship and deported.



http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006120839,00.html

[East Scout]

One day everyone will be saying how could we have let this happen..(the entire situation) ..By then it will be far to late to change anything.....

[Geezah]

Bloody hell, I may be wrong, but I not aware of anything like this ever taking place with an suspected IRA terrorist?

[cut]

Indeed, he should be executed, whether he did anything or not.. it's the democratic thing to do.

[Flukeman]

Bloody hell, I may be wrong, but I not aware of anything like this ever taking place with an suspected IRA terrorist?

It has happened.

[babydave]

i'd be cautious of how true that is, it was in the sun.

they bend the truth like theres no tomorrow.

[CMNot]

...allegedly...


...www.thesun.co.uk...

The message you have entered is to small...

[BlackRain]

You appeasers are way to easy.

1) Discount the seriousness of allowing a mentally unbalanced man (by his own admission and by his supporters) and an Al Qaeda finance man the honor of entering commons.

2) Discredit the source of the article.

How about for once and all just saying this was wrong instead of sticking up for terrorists?

Alternate source for the disbelievers/appeasers:

Alarm as terrorism suspect has tour of parliament
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=427372006

[Hydro]

Bloody hell, I may be wrong, but I not aware of anything like this ever taking place with an suspected IRA terrorist?


Of course not, they were just made MP's!!!

[Kitsune]

Indeed, he should be executed, whether he did anything or not.. it's the democratic thing to do.
Only if the majority wants it, mind you. ;-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Bloody hell, I may be wrong, but I not aware of anything like this ever taking place with an suspected IRA terrorist?
We just let them get elected to Parliament :roll:

So much for Tony Bliar and his 'War on Terror'

What a fcuking hypocrite

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

How about for once and all just saying this was wrong instead of sticking up for terrorists?Well Black Rain I would imagine that your old enough to remember the days when the US was a happy home for those who committed and raised funds for terror attacks on the UK so maybe you should lighten up a little.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Well Black Rain I would imagine that your old enough to remember the days when the US was a happy home for those who committed and raised funds for terror attacks on the UK so maybe you should lighten up a little.

So true
It always amused me that the IRA excised all the Marxist bits out of their propaganda when they were 'blarneyizing' all that cash from all those misty eyed nostalgic septics

[theclash]

The US still raise money for Sinn Fein to my knowledge.

They're called Friends of Sinn Fein.
Who also have branches in Canada and Australia.

Anyway why shouldn't a British citizen have a right to be invited to the Commons?
The place is a bloody maze of corridors anyway, any would-be bomber would get lost before he found a target.

[sp2c]

I don't get it, were they armed?

what's the problem??

[EsoognomEhT]

Well Black Rain I would imagine that your old enough to remember the days when the US was a happy home for those who committed and raised funds for terror attacks on the UK so maybe you should lighten up a little.


a ****ing men.


And Blackrain, ever heard of innocent untill proven guilty??
(I know that doesn't apply in the case of US Terror suspects, ship them all to guantanamo! Where the law can't touch them!)


“He came through the peers’ entrance. He went through the security check and I met him at security. He did not leave me for one second.
“I did not take him into any public gallery.

[Geezah]

Well Black Rain I would imagine that your old enough to remember the days when the US was a happy home for those who committed and raised funds for terror attacks on the UK so maybe you should lighten up a little.

The US as a whole, or a select few on the east coast?

[Stolly]

The US as a whole, or a select few on the east coast?

A well organised and very visible section of American citizenry who raised funds in very public ways and whose activities were carried out with the tacit approval of successive administrations both state and federal who looked the other way as thousands of dollars were raised over a period of decades.

That specific enough for you ?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

A well organised and very visible section of American citizenry who raised funds in very public ways and whose activities were carried out with the tacit approval of successive administrations both state and federal who looked the other way as thousands of dollars were raised over a period of decades.

That specific enough for you ?

Make that millions of dollars over the years rather than thousands

[a_very_ex_STAB]

@Blackrain

I guess it wouldn't be politic to mention now that the US has taken up the sponsorship of Saddam Husseins former terrorist proteges the MEK.

Guess we shouldn't mention the US' former role in the foundation of Al Qaeda either. How inconvenient.

[Geezah]

A well organised and very visible section of American citizenry who raised funds in very public ways and whose activities were carried out with the tacit approval of successive administrations both state and federal who looked the other way as thousands of dollars were raised over a period of decades.

That specific enough for you ?

Not really, it still paints a picture that the average American was ok with what was going on, even if it was mainly taking place within the Irish American community that resides on the east coast.

I hate the IRA and everything they stand/stood for and I'm extremely vocal about it. In my 10yrs of living here, only once have I come across a college student(or anyone else for that matter) that ended up on the recieving end of my tongue because of a stupid "England get out of Ireland" he was wearing on his jacket, the supposed support the IRA have is not as widespread as some would think.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The US as a whole, or a select few on the east coast?Here are the persons closest to you Geezah that raise money for terror, give them a call and tell them how you feel.

Cleveland: Pat Kempton (440) 352-6573
Columbus: Bryan Cummings (614) 792-6772, Email: inainfo@columbus.rr.com
Cincinnati: Patrick Seiler (513) 521-2568, Email: patrickseiler@hotmail.com
Dayton: Mike Coogan (937) 299-7502

The whole list of persons that raise money for terror.
http://www.inac.org/ina/list.html

Remember folks its a ceasefire at the moment nothing else and the Republican and Loyalist terrorists still are an oppressive force in their respective communities.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Here are the persons closest to you that raise money for terror, give them a call and tell them how you feel.

Cleveland: Pat Kempton (440) 352-6573
Columbus: Bryan Cummings (614) 792-6772, Email: inainfo@columbus.rr.com
Cincinnati: Patrick Seiler (513) 521-2568, Email: patrickseiler@hotmail.com
Dayton: Mike Coogan (937) 299-7502

The whole list of persons that raise money for terror.
http://www.inac.org/ina/list.html

Remember folks its a ceasefire at the moment nothing else and the Republican and Loyalist terrorists still are an oppressive force in their respective communities.

Yup there's massive practicing of double standards going on in a country that's supposed to be at war with terrorism :roll:

[BlackRain]

a ****ing men.


And Blackrain, ever heard of innocent untill proven guilty??
(I know that doesn't apply in the case of US Terror suspects, ship them all to guantanamo! Where the law can't touch them!)


If you are an UK citizen, your statement above demonstrates you are ignorant of your countries own terrorism laws.

1) Mahmoud Abu Rideh is not a UK citizen, he is a Palestinian.
2) Rideh was originally arrested in December 2001 under Part 4 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (ATCSA). He was involved in fund raising and distribution of money for terror groups linked to al-Qaeda.
3) He was released when Part 4 of the ATCSA expired in March 2005, and immediately was made the subject of a control order under the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005.
4) Mr Abu Rideh says he has asked the Government to allow him to return to Palestine but he hasn't received a reply.

For those who state that the USA raises money for MEK and the IRA (which have been our list of terrorist organizations for years) as a form of moral relativism, you are sadly mistaken.

Any US citizen that raises money knowingly for MEK/IRA are in violation of federal law and will be arrested.

Whereas in Britain, it is acceptable by your standards to parade a mentally deranged (by his own admission) Palestinian who help fund terror groups through Commons.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

For those who state that the USA raises money for MEK and the IRA (which have been our list of terrorist organizations for years) as a form of moral relativism, you are sadly mistaken.

Any US citizen that raises money knowingly for MEK/IRA are in violation of federal law and will be arrested.

Your naive faith in your government is really quite touching Blackrain :)
Why has the US government allowed the MEK 'terrorists' to have protected status under the Geneva Convention when other terrorist suspects are sent to Gitmo while also continuing to allow US citizens to fund the IRA?

It has also been noted that you skated over the point about the US helping to found Al Qaeda
Shades of gray matey
And you septics have the cheek to accuse others of moral relativism

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Any US citizen that raises money knowingly for MEK/IRA are in violation of federal law and will be arrested.Yet despite these laws terrorist fund raising groups still operate in the open in the US.

[Geezah]

The US as a whole, or a select few on the east coast?

Here are the persons closest to you Geezah that raise money for terror, give them a call and tell them how you feel.

Cleveland: Pat Kempton (440) 352-6573
Columbus: Bryan Cummings (614) 792-6772, Email: inainfo@columbus.rr.com
Cincinnati: Patrick Seiler (513) 521-2568, Email: patrickseiler@hotmail.com
Dayton: Mike Coogan (937) 299-7502

The whole list of persons that raise money for terror.
http://www.inac.org/ina/list.html

Remember folks its a ceasefire at the moment nothing else and the Republican and Loyalist terrorists still are an oppressive force in their respective communities.

Fruck me, I stand corrected big time, I think I may give that Mike Coogan a call,I work in what is considered Dayton.

Thanks for the list, I always thought it was the east coast, I'm sorry for being so wrong.

[Geezah]

I've just got Mikey's address, Michael J Coogan, 701 Buckingham Rd, Dayton, Oh, 45419.

I'm going to write to my Representative on this as well, I'm reading the crap on their webiste and I'm gob smacked.

[marktigger]

Bloody hell, I may be wrong, but I not aware of anything like this ever taking place with an suspected IRA terrorist?
Nope they where just given an office in westminster with the support of the US GOVT!!!!!!

[Geezah]

Nope they where just given an office in westminster with the support of the US GOVT!!!!!!

Well, it seems I'm well off base here........

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Looks like Blackrain got pwned big time

[fargo]

Having our some of our American cousins fund terrorists who kill innocent UK citizens kinda leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. I'm glad that the majority woke up post 9/11 to what was really going on, although sadly, it appears some still have the misty eyed view of the IRA.

[Saranof]

Looks like Blackrain got pwned big time

He's out google-ing for articles about it, don't worry

[marktigger]

well considering that your political representitives tried to block sales of arms to the Police and army. Tried to obstruct any anti terrorist measures and called for inquirey after inquirey into British human rights abuses in Northern Ireland. I think the USA should have a very NASTY taste in its mouth espically when the Good Friday agreement which was a surrender to the IRA was accepted by the Majority unionist party at the time the UUP by pressure brought to bare by the US President. Now the Police and soldiers who tried to prevent terrorism are demonised and the terrorists are in government.