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Central American country's defense minister asks Israel for assistance in building modern, efficient army
Itamar Eichner
The Israel Defense Forces has gained a worldwide reputation for being a small and wise army, but El Salvador has gone a step further as its government decided to set up an army based on the IDF model.
The central American's defense minister approached Israel’s Ambassador Yonatan Peled and asked that Israel assist his country in building a modern and efficient army, Israel's leading newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.
Peled said Israel would be happy to help. El Salvador asked for advice on the following issues: national service laws, reserve programs, training programs, and officers' courses.
'Locals appreciate Israel'
Peled said that “there is no doubt that El Salvador is building on our experience. In light of the friendship between the two countries and the good military relations in the past, their request is natural."
"Locals told me they appreciate Israel and the IDF's role in defending it, in which they see a model they can adopt,” he added.
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IDF tank
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3229882,00.html
It's not the first time that a request from a foreign country to adopt the IDF format is made. Singapore asked Israel to set up their army in the mid '60s. Now it has the strongest military force of SE Asia... Coincidence?
PS: For those interested about the singapore army's setting up by israel, read this article (http://www.indiadefence.com/SingAF.htm) (Haaretz source).
msnger
03-20-2006, 08:48 AM
can anyone expand by meaning of copying model of IDF?
is it training, movement, tactics.
can anyone expand by meaning of copying model of IDF?
is it training, movement, tactics.
First, it's a doctrine : Defensive Strategy - Offensive Tactics
http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=3
Obviously, Salvador need the means to do this, that's why they asked Israel for help on issues like : national service laws, reserve programs, training programs, and officers' courses.
Palmach
03-20-2006, 01:09 PM
can anyone expand by meaning of copying model of IDF?
is it training, movement, tactics.
Up to now countries seeking to build their armies on Israeli model wanted to maintain a smaller conscript/professional army backed up but a large, capable, and rapidly deployable reseve corps. Issues not directly pretaining to this particular concept can be copied from any modern army and do not require Israeli participation. Singapore is a prime success story in building an armed forces from the ground up on Israeli model and with Israeli active involvement. On the other hand, attempts to repicate the model in Africa have failed due to societal and social short-comings of the host countries.
LaoSexMachine
03-20-2006, 01:12 PM
A Jewish conspiracy!!!!!NO!11
annihilation
03-20-2006, 01:41 PM
Well thats pretty cool. For most small nations I would imagine the IDF model is a great approach.
a_very_ex_STAB
03-20-2006, 01:48 PM
Are they planning to invade the ME on a flimsy religious pretext, steal arab land and build a big wall around it then?:)
Are they planning to invade the ME on a flimsy religious pretext, steal arab land and build a big wall around it then?:)
Are you planning to get banned?
Palmach
03-20-2006, 02:30 PM
Are they planning to invade the ME on a flimsy religious pretext, steal arab land and build a big wall around it then?:)
Isn't there a Catapiller around you can sit in front of?
a_very_ex_STAB
03-20-2006, 02:33 PM
Isn't there a Catapiller around you can sit in front of?
Are you planning to get banned?:roll:
Palmach
03-20-2006, 02:45 PM
Are you planning to get banned?:roll:
I am just sayin, what's the point of making pointless, inflamatory posts in a perfectly nuteral thread?
Wouldn't a noble brave aryan defender of human rights and arab lands like yourself want a to take derect action against zionist occupiers?!
ExtraT
03-20-2006, 03:08 PM
Hey, buddies, long time no see :)
Seriously, though, don't you see this "ex STAB" guy is just a parrot - repeating what others said all the time. Do you seriously think someone like this would sit in front of a D9? ROFL
SeanAshi
03-20-2006, 04:38 PM
It's in the ISM manual, when attacked by D9 bulldozers play dead...or is it play dead when bears attack?
Mr Gently Benevolent
03-20-2006, 05:55 PM
The IDF model is a good one any small country that does not have a long military tradition, but I have feeling it will cost them big time. What I do find surprising is that El Salvador has been sending people to US military schools for nearly 20 years surely the senior officers must have learnt something in that time.
Mr Gently Benevolent
03-20-2006, 05:57 PM
Are you planning to get banned?Do you have a Moriarty like grip of the mods or maybe you have influence and power beyond imagination. Probably not, so shut it.
annihilation
03-20-2006, 06:02 PM
It's in the ISM manual, when attacked by D9 bulldozers play dead...or is it play dead when bears attack?
I think its play dead when bears attack.
maybe it's play bear when bulldozers attack?
surely the evil zionists wouldn't kill an endangered species?
TheStorm
03-20-2006, 10:07 PM
The IDF is one of the best small militaries in the world. I'm sure they'll do a great job.
Palmach
03-20-2006, 11:34 PM
The IDF model is a good one any small country that does not have a long military tradition, but I have feeling it will cost them big time. What I do find surprising is that El Salvador has been sending people to US military schools for nearly 20 years surely the senior officers must have learnt something in that time.
Would you elaborate on the following points:
1. why do you find Israeli model to be more costly then some others (which ones)?
2. Considering that similar models with variations are employed by Germany, the Swiss, and even the Brits (abeit with different being more accented after WWII), how the heck does a lack of "long military tradition" have any bearing on the issue? Israeli reserve system was developed after direct study of British and Swiss models after all...
3. I have no idea what military doctrine Salvador has adopted and who their likely opponents are, but how the heck can a country with limited financial and population resources replicate the US setup is quite beyond me, however, I am certain you have gave it a lot of thought and can shed light on this canandrom.
a_very_ex_STAB
03-21-2006, 02:35 AM
Isn't there a Catapiller around you can sit in front of?
I knew it wouldn't take long for the inherent brutality of the Israeli state to be manifested ;)
My work here is done
Do you have a Moriarty like grip of the mods or maybe you have influence and power beyond imagination. Probably not, so shut it.
So making a comment that can ruin a perfectly nuetural thread can't make the mods consider banning you? You should understand that by now.
I knew it wouldn't take long for the inherent brutality of the Israeli state to be manifested ;)
My work here is done
Your posts are a manifestation of human idiocy.
moughoun
03-21-2006, 08:46 AM
hasn't this thread veered wildly off course, can we haul it back now.....so many thread's on here get killed with stupidity.
Ariha
03-21-2006, 12:55 PM
Now they have to persuade Nicaragua to adopt the "balestinian" model and their life will be a lot easier.
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