Gays Parade Attacked In Yugoslavia

[AK-Lover]

Violence Stops
Yugoslavia Gay Pride
by Ana Simo

JULY 5, 2001. Two days after Slobodan Milosevic was summarily shipped to The Hague to stand trial for genocide, a violent, well organized Serb ultra-nationalist mob vented their anger on a small group of people who had gathered in Belgrade's central square for what would have been Yugoslavia's first public Gay Pride March.

The mob, which some eyewitnesses say eventually swelled to one or two thousand-strong, surrounded and brutally beat up, kicked, and chased would-be marchers and several local journalists for about two hours last Saturday, June 30.

The few local police present seemed unsure about what to do. Some shot in the air, trying unsuccessfully to disperse the attackers. Dozens of people were injured, including at least four members of the lesbian group Labris and some cops. About a dozen attackers were arrested.

The attackers were mostly young men from two right-wing ultra-nationalist groups, nationalist skinheads, and what the Yugoslav press euphemistically describes as "soccer hooligans." Some chanted, "Serbia is not a homo****** country" and "Serbia for Serbians. and not for homo******s," and waved WWII Serbian nationalist flags. Others carried posters that read, "Orthodox For a Morally Clean Serbia," and "No to Immoral Homo******ity and Depraved Orgies." Zarko Gavrilovic, a Serbian Orthodox Church priest, was at the head of one of the groups.

After destroying the Gay Pride March, the mob stoned the nearby Students' Cultural Center, where a public forum about gay rights and other events were to have taken place after the march, and assaulted several gay men and lesbians there. They also stoned the offices of the Social Democratic Union, a centrist political party that supports gay rights, smashing its front window. Fearing more violence, and still lacking adequate police protection, organizers canceled all remaining Pride events.

Belgrade police chief, Bosko Buha, questioned by the independent Radio B-92, explained that he had only deployed fifty police officers without riot gear to protect the Pride March because he had not expected the anti-gay forces to be so large or aggressive. He also blamed the marchers. "As a society, we are not mature enough to accept such demonstrations of perversity," Buha said.

Buha's remarks were contradicted by human rights groups, which said that the police knew full well about the violent threats against the Pride events, but were unprepared or unwilling to act. According to Radio B-92, plans by extremist groups to attack the Gay Pride March had been covered in the press.

Belgrade's Humanitarian Law Center slammed Buha for calling Gay Pride a "demonstration of perversity." The group, which sent monitors to the Pride March, also said that the police "must know that it is their duty to ensure the right to peaceful assembly, irrespective of the political, ****** or any other affiliation or preferences of the participants."

The Helsinki Committee for Human Rights said that Belgrade police "failed to intervene and protect those being attacked" because "the authorities obviously think the police should protect only certain types of citizens." It also charged the Serbian Orthodox Church with "leading a call for gay people to be lynched."

The Association of Independent Electronic Media (ANEM) demanded "that the authorities conduct an exhaustive investigation" to find out who is behind the anti-gay violence and also behind two other recent attacks against journalists on the streets of Belgrade. "This society continues to face the consequences of a decade of fascist conditions, and the induction of fear and hatred towards anyone who differs from society's norms," ANEM said in a statement signed by its chairman, Veran Matic.

Serbian authorities show no signs of taking responsibility. President Vojislav Kostunica has not condemned the attacks. And, much like Chief Buha, Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic seems to blame the victim. "I think it's too early to stand this test of tolerance in a country that has been in isolation for so long, and which has had a repressive patriarchal culture," he told Radio B92. "I'm afraid it will take us some time to reach..." that "...highest level of tolerance."

Just the day before gay people were brutalized in the heart of Belgrade, Djindjic was in Brussels, raking in 1.25 billion dollars in aid to Yugoslavia from 15 European countries, the U.S., Canada, Japan, and other countries, and promising them that his government would respect human rights. The purse strings were loosened after Djindjic shipped Milosevic to The Hague Tribunal.

ILGA-Europe (the regional branch of the International Lesbian and Gay Association) believes that European aid to Yugoslavia ($530 million) is conditional on respect for human rights, and that failure to protect the Belgrade Gay Pride March was a serious breach of these condition. It is taking up the matter with the European Union and has launched an emergency letter-writing campaign to pressure the Foreign Ministers of Serbia and its 15 European donors on the issue.
http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/queerimg2/gay_activist_beaten.jpg An officer guards a lesbian protestor who got beat up.
http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/queerimg2/gay_bashing_belgrade.jpg A gay Pride protestor is beat up by a National Skinheads member and also a FK Crvena Zvezda (soccer club red star) member in the gay pride parade.

Jeez, I am a member of the FK Crvena Zvezda. :)

[mustamato]

I wonder if not most Serbian men are gay, they sure seem to have problems
with their self-esteem. And old news is always sooo exciting.

[AK-Lover]

Mustamato you gotta problem with serbs? Why don't you PM you Swedish ****! :fork:

[Maverick77]

Mustamato you gotta problem with serbs? Why don't you PM you Swedish ****! :fork:

**** thats hilarious

"you got a problem......private message me!"

stupid internet nerds

[Shake n Bake]

Mustamato you gotta problem with serbs? Why don't you PM you Swedish ****! :fork:

Mustamato has a problem with everybody..

Israelis
Russians
Americans
Serbs
etc....

That's what I like about him.

[Va_Dinger]

I never really had an opinion on Serbs before, but now I starting to like them!

[Steve Andrews]

Homophobe alert..homophobe alert

[EYE SPY]

Serbs, a people so "nice",
the world bombed them twice


HIYOOOO!

[Macs.]

That must be the Video of that demonstration:
http://www.b92.net/rvideo/specijal/gay-30-06-01-hq.rm

[SeanAshi]

Mustamato you gotta problem with serbs?Although I do not agree with their life style I never understood why some feel so threatend by someone with a different ****** prefrence, whether its wrong or not, lets leave it up to the All Mighty to decide, but surrounding people and beathing them black and blue is just ridiculous, but some men are so afraid of being labled gay, so they will join in with insults and the beating, probably most of them Serbian men are gay :lol: but wont admit to it, Serbs killed thousand and thousands of muslims, women and children, and then beat gay people senseles suprised? no.

[wholagun]

That must be the Video of that demonstration:
http://www.b92.net/rvideo/specijal/gay-30-06-01-hq.rm

yo macs that **** was dope yo. Thanks.

cops got it haned to them a few times. It took awhile for the riot cops to show up

[George W. Bush]

Serbs aren't really known for their intelligence.

[usa320]

As long as they dont watch me sleep or change, and as long as they dont hit on me, who cares if they are gay.

[wholagun]

well what suprises me is that the cops didn't see this comming, they weren't ready.

there were pro-life and a pro-choise protests in Warsaw Poland the other day and the cops were ready with bean bag shot gun,s and what not to disperse the crowds if necessary. The cops knew that these two issues are very sensative in Poland and they were ready, a few ppl caused minor problems but thats all.

There is still little tolerence in Central/Eastern/Southern Europe on matters such as gay rights and abortion etc.

[Ichhabe]

well what suprises me is that the cops didn't see this comming, they weren't ready.

there were pro-life and a pro-choise protests in Warsaw Poland the other day and the cops were ready with bean bag shot gun,s and what not to disperse the crowds if necessary. The cops knew that these two issues are very sensative in Poland and they were ready, a few ppl caused minor problems but thats all.

There is still little tolerence in Central/Eastern/Southern Europe on matters such as gay rights and abortion etc.

Maybe the police misunderstood the Serb male population? You know, they are famous for the interpretation of "love thy neighbour." :D

[Haiw]

Time to bomb them again?

[seventy6er]

Subliminal message - Dr1nk m00r m1lk - Subliminal message

Hehe, first time I noticed that, HAIW! :lol:

[martinexsquaddie]

another glorious serb military victory
heard a story from a gay friend of mine some skinheads came down to brighton for a spot of gay bashing went into one of the crusing sights with a baseball bat . unfortunatly for them they were outnumbered by a factor of 10 the baseball bat ended up being used as a *** toy on the unfortunate skin heads :( did'nt enquire which end :lol: just the thought made me squirm :(

[SeanAshi]

Haiw http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/images/smilies/wank.gif

10 the baseball bat ended up being used as a *** toy on the unfortunate skin heads The skin heads probably liked it rough.

[Marmot1]

Serbs aren't really known for their intelligence.

Well Americans aren't also And usualy lead in retardness contests around the world, so please stop making stupid comments... I know personaly couple of serbs, my best friend is curently in Serbia on contract and I received just couple hours ago an e-mail from him in which he said that ppl in serbia are more open and more friendly than in US where he was 3 times and if he had a chose where to live he would prefer Yugoslavia cuz ppl are on higher level than in US (education, inteligence,general knowledge of world...)


Time to bomb them again?

:cantbeli: How about repeating 9.11 again??? was it funny to you??? lets't do it again it was so funny.... :bash: :bash:

[Macs.]

Serbs aren't really known for their intelligence.

Well Americans aren't also And usualy lead in retardness contests around the world, so please stop making stupid comments... I know personaly couple of serbs, my best friend is curently in Serbia on contract and I received just couple hours ago an e-mail from him in which he said that ppl in serbia are more open and more friendly than in US where he was 3 times and if he had a chose where to live he would prefer Yugoslavia cuz ppl are on higher level than in US (education, inteligence,general knowledge of world...)

Are you the president of Yugoslavia or what ?




Time to bomb them again?

:cantbeli: How about repeating 9.11 again??? was it funny to you??? lets't do it again it was so funny.... :bash: :bash:

Sarcasm.

What ?

[SeanAshi]

in US where he was 3 times and if he had a chose where to live he would prefer Yugoslavia cuz ppl are on higher level than in US (education, inteligence,general knowledge of world...)
rofl whatever do they even have electricity and running water in the Balkans? ;) *sarcasim*

[SOG]

Mustamato you gotta problem with serbs? Why don't you PM you Swedish ****! :fork:

f*** thats hilarious

"you got a problem......private message me!"

stupid internet nerds

thats it bitch im gonna kick your ass...... when are you going to by on icq? im just asking because im in invisible mode and i need to know when your on so i can change my status and kick some ass! rofl Nå®?$ rule.

[haze99]

I thought, I had the freedom to believe what I want? Just because I do not accept someone who is homo******, doesn't make me a homophobe?

Who is the Almighty anyway?

PS-is the web-site about military related issues? Or nonsense?

[AK-Lover]

First this happened because anywhere in the balkans being gay is almost culturally considered taboo. Second please don't make comments like, the serbs are stupid or do they have running water in the balkans. First those are stupid ass assumptions because in even the smallest and poorest village in serbia there is electricity. Second thing, serbia has probably one of the higher post-secondary education levels in the world. When we moved to canada my dad got job a year later as chief engineer at halliburton in Grande Prairie, a year later, it's because he finshed a geology and petroleum engineering course at belgrade university. Like he said "I'm sitting in the office drinking coffe and playing video games on my computer, while canadian kids outside are moving pipes in -40" So please don't be so biased and UNEDUCATED! ;)

[Haiw]

Okay, so if I get this right....serbian loverboy....is calling us....uneducated....




*cough* Pot....kettle....black...*ugh*

[Sixgun Symphony]

AIDS cures fags

[AK-Lover]

Yeah that's right, serbian loverboy, I make love to you're girlfriend! Oh wait! I' can't do that can I? It' because HAIW doesn't have a girlfriend! Yeah! He has a boyfriend instead! Sorry, I prefer pussy! :lol:

[EYE SPY]

is that why you make love to your hand so much? Cuz your a pussy?

[AK-Lover]

Before I answer, do you even know what pussy is or did you're mom teach you? :P

[Jack Mehoff]

First this happened because anywhere in the balkans being gay is almost culturally considered taboo. Second please don't make comments like, the serbs are stupid or do they have running water in the balkans. First those are stupid ass assumptions because in even the smallest and poorest village in serbia there is electricity. Second thing, serbia has probably one of the higher post-secondary education levels in the world. When we moved to canada my dad got job a year later as chief engineer at halliburton in Grande Prairie, a year later, it's because he finshed a geology and petroleum engineering course at belgrade university. Like he said "I'm sitting in the office drinking coffe and playing video games on my computer, while canadian kids outside are moving pipes in -40" So please don't be so biased and UNEDUCATED! ;)

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada? rofl

[Haiw]

AIDS cures fags
Oh right I forgot... our Islamophobia Euro-bashing enthusiast is also a full-fledged homo-hater.

Is he a serb neo-nazi?

Oh and serbian loverboy.... loverboy was meant in a gay way... as in 'You suck Sixguns knob'.

[Sixgun Symphony]

I can already hear the violins playing as Haiw goes on about his being the victim of a gay bashing.

[Haiw]

Actually I'm not gay myself.... yet I know enough good people that happen to be gay to be offended. But of course by stating 'AIDS is the cure to fags' you would be a victim if anything would be done against such idiocy...right?

[AK-Lover]

Haiw this is perfectly understandable since practically every country is better than the land of windmills and cheese! :P
KA-CHING!

[AK-Lover]

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada?
Because I was 9 in 1997 so I really didn't have a choice and my parents especially my dad are all about eqality and liberalism.

[Sixgun Symphony]

I don't doubt for a minute that Haiw has alot of queer friends. It would surprise me if he is not a queer himself.

Land of windmills and cheese? More like the land of hippies, queers, and dope.

[Jack Mehoff]

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada?
Because I was 9 in 1997 so I really didn't have a choice and my parents especially my dad are all about eqality and liberalism.

Does that mean you are going to get the **** out of Canada when you turn 18?

[AK-Lover]

Most likely. WTF do you care any way, you live in the US so get off my back you hippie!

[Jack Mehoff]

Most likely. WTF do you care any way, you live in the US so get off my back you hippie!

Jack is a hippie??? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[AK-Lover]

Well you sure seem to be supportive of HAIW who obviuosly is a hippie but if you say you're not then I guess you're not, But you are liberal that's for sure! ;)

[WolverineBlue]

Red Star hools -- only people they can beat on are transvestites and women -- you should be proud.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Bill Clinton's Flaming Fairies (Pink Berets)

Flaming fairies, we are so shy
I broke a nail, oh I could cry.
The mean ole sergeant, he thinks we're pips
We bat our eyes and swish our hips
We are so proud to be this way
We are the fairies of the pink beret.

Bill Clinton's gays, we are the best
Much sweeter than all of the rest
He let us join this army thing
Now I think we're owed a friendship ring
We are so silly all in drag
Want to play a game of tag?
I touch you there and everywhere
You touch me back, ooh I don't care.
One hundred men we'll do today
By little ole gays of the pink beret.

These army suits, they are so neat
Think we look good enough to eat?
Oh put my earclips on my nuts
That feels so nice, now spank my butt

I giggle so when I see you rise
I'd like to show you my surprise
To serve our country is such a thrill
Dressed in uniform or not, I will
No matter what the civilians say
We are Bill Clinton's pink berets.

So into battle, we'll lead the band
Please don't say, no man's land.
The enemy is like an awful brute
But, really dear, I think they're cute.
I'll take him on in a foxhole there
Cause my nylons are the wash 'n wear.
And if he wins and I lose the test
He'll know he's had the very best
Let me endure it all, I pray
Cause that's what Bill wants of his pink berets.

[AK-Lover]

RED STAR what? dude what do you know about FK Crvena Zvezda? You live in washington! :|

[WolverineBlue]

Ajax North-Side, my friend...Red Star get beat by Partizan.

[AK-Lover]

Whatever! rofl RED STAR are like the ****ing icons! woot

[AK-Lover]

Great one sixgun! Pink berets! rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Durandal]

This thread.....

*shakes head*

Dude is playing on the Hate Team...

[Jack Mehoff]

Well you sure seem to be supportive of HAIW who obviuosly is a hippie but if you say you're not then I guess you're not, But you are liberal that's for sure! ;)

You obviously don't know my view on homo****** (check the Off Topic section). I DO NOT like homo****** and their life style, but that doesn't mean i'm going to kick their ass. I don't mind kicking your ass though.

[Durandal]

Pick me up on you way up north...

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

First this happened because anywhere in the balkans being gay is almost culturally considered taboo. Second please don't make comments like, the serbs are stupid or do they have running water in the balkans. First those are stupid ass assumptions because in even the smallest and poorest village in serbia there is electricity. Second thing, serbia has probably one of the higher post-secondary education levels in the world. When we moved to canada my dad got job a year later as chief engineer at halliburton in Grande Prairie, a year later, it's because he finshed a geology and petroleum engineering course at belgrade university. Like he said "I'm sitting in the office drinking coffe and playing video games on my computer, while canadian kids outside are moving pipes in -40" So please don't be so biased and UNEDUCATED! ;)

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada? rofl

So why did you come to our country again?


Well you sure seem to be supportive of HAIW who obviuosly is a hippie but if you say you're not then I guess you're not, But you are liberal that's for sure!

Actually I support Haiw, he actually has his head on right and can have an actuall conversation without bias or posting garbage.

[XD-40]

ak lover:

that picture of (your leader) was a gay too.

he served in jail with my army bud. they called him "vojka" in jail. every time when a jail superintendant would receive a call, one guard who was known as a gay would visit him and have *** with him.

thats how he, vojka, was cooperating with security forces.

[mustamato]

ak lover:

that picture of (your leader) was a gay too.

he served in jail with my army bud. they called him "vojka" in jail. every time when a jail superintendant would receive a call, one guard who was known as a gay would visit him and have *** with him.

thats how he, vojka, was cooperating with security forces.

HAHAHA. I will love to hear AK-lovers answer to this.

[Haiw]

I almost wanted to respond to some of the garbage posted above by the serbian fool and Sixgun, but I don't think it deserves anymore time than the time needed to click on the 'ban user button'...

Oh well, spare serbian fool. He's so stupid it's kinda funny. :lol:

[Jack Mehoff]

First this happened because anywhere in the balkans being gay is almost culturally considered taboo. Second please don't make comments like, the serbs are stupid or do they have running water in the balkans. First those are stupid ass assumptions because in even the smallest and poorest village in serbia there is electricity. Second thing, serbia has probably one of the higher post-secondary education levels in the world. When we moved to canada my dad got job a year later as chief engineer at halliburton in Grande Prairie, a year later, it's because he finshed a geology and petroleum engineering course at belgrade university. Like he said "I'm sitting in the office drinking coffe and playing video games on my computer, while canadian kids outside are moving pipes in -40" So please don't be so biased and UNEDUCATED! ;)

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada? rofl

So why did you come to our country again?



Is this question for me or AK boy?

[AK-Lover]

So why did you come to our country again?

Who is "our" anybody can move to Canada if they want thats why we call it MULTICULTURAL, okay?

that picture of (your leader) was a gay too
Hey buddy, do you even know who that is? Served with you're army bud? WTF! Were are you from? rofl
And know just because I don't share you're liberal views doesn't mean you have to bash on me, I just posted the article in the first place to see peoples (haiw's,Jack Mehoffs,Rantaplans) reactions which were as expected ones of pure anger and misunderstanding! :D

[Catch22]

Jack now it is clear to me that you're just (est.) 160 pounds of pure knife weaving, BJJ wrestling hippie rofl

[Haiw]

So why did you come to our country again?

Who is "our" anybody can move to Canada if they want thats why we call it MULTICULTURAL, okay?

that picture of (your leader) was a gay too
Hey buddy, do you even know who that is? Served with you're army bud? WTF! Were are you from? rofl
And know just because I don't share you're liberal views doesn't mean you have to bash on me, I just posted the article in the first place to see peoples (haiw's,Jack Mehoffs,Rantaplans) reactions which were as expected ones of pure anger and misunderstanding! :D
What's there to misunderstand about some insane hooligans rioting and assaulting a gay parade...

[XD-40]

that picture of (your leader) was a gay too
Hey buddy, do you even know who that is? Served with you're army bud? WTF! Were are you from? rofl


my jna pal was in jail with vojka.

Croatia



And know just because I don't share you're liberal views doesn't mean you have to bash on me, I just posted the article in the first place to see peoples (haiw's,Jack Mehoffs,Rantaplans) reactions which were as expected ones of pure anger and misunderstanding! :D

Sheshelj's ass was a ****** instruments to some jail guards in Zenica Penitentiary in 1980s. So you bash gays and then you post your leader's photo. and everybody knows that vs is a gay.

[AK-Lover]

He is not my leader I just thought the photo looked funny :D

[XD-40]

He is not my leader I just thought the photo looked funny :D

never mind, he, vojka, is a gay.

[Yard Ape]

If your country is so good then why did you immigrated to Canada?
Because I was 9 in 1997 so I really didn't have a choice and my parents especially my dad are all about eqality and liberalism.

Does that mean you are going to get the f*** out of Canada when you turn 18?Most likely. WTF do you care any way, you live in the US so get off my back you hippie!Do you disagree with equality? Do you resent Canada for the freedoms you have here?

[ALBANIAN]

I've seen some of these moralists, beating women!
Gay are human being, some times better than us heteros.
The hooligans of Crvena Zvezda, were the tank for the serbian paramilitary groups, that commited most of crimes during the wars provocated by serbia.

[WolverineBlue]

I've seen some of these moralists, beating women!
Gay are human being, some times better than us heteros.
The hooligans of Crvena Zvezda, were the tank for the serbian paramilitary groups, that commited most of crimes during the wars provocated by serbia.

You hit the nail right on the head. The Olympic Games in Greece should be a blast as well.

[AK-Lover]

ALB do you mind not chirping every time serbs did this serbs did that. i wonder how gays are treated in albania? not very good? most likely. :)

[Yard Ape]

You did not answer my question.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=191523#191523
I don't give a **** about canada now!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=202466#202466




Does that mean you are going to get the f*** out of Canada when you turn 18?Most likely. WTF do you care any way, you live in the US so get off my back you hippie!Do you disagree with equality? Do you resent Canada for the freedoms you have here?

[ALBANIAN]

ALB do you mind not chirping every time serbs did this serbs did that. i wonder how gays are treated in albania? not very good? most likely. :)

They are not loved, you know in this aspect alla balkan are same, but they are tolerated. Not beaten!
And we don't beat women in perfect serbian style, that beat and kill everyone who isn't a serb, orthodox and have the courage to think and to be different from serbs.

[Commander Cool]

Albanian: Your comments suggest you are not really very informed about Serbia. Although it's true they have committed some war crimes, you should blame only those people who did the war crimes, not "the Serbs". If you do some research you will find out that Serbia is the most ethnically diverse country in all of Europe, only about 65% of the popluation is Serbian (85% if you exclude Kosovo), and there are something like 50 different ethnic groups living there. In addition to Kosovo, there are about 130,000 Albanians in Serbia, including about 40,000 in Belgrade. There are also thousands of various muslims, gypsies, and more than a hundred mosques in Serbia. And these muslims are not being attacked or killed or anything (except for the two mosques that were burned last week during the protests). So to say that Serbs hate everything non-Serbian is a statement which does not stand up to the evidence.

P.S. Are you really in Albania right now, or were you just born there? I didn't know they had internet over there yet.