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Tielir999
03-26-2006, 03:48 AM
sorry if RMM

Is A War Going On In Texas?
Feb 14, 2006
by Phyllis Schlafly ( bio | archive | contact )

Email to a friend Print this page Text size: A A If you don't have access to Texas newspapers or the internet, you may not have heard the sensational news about the enormous cache of weapons just seized in Laredo, Texas. U.S. authorities grabbed two completed Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), materials for making 33 more, military-style grenades, 26 grenade triggers, large quantities of AK-47 and AR-15 assault rifles, 1,280 rounds of ammunition, silencers, machine gun assembly kits, 300 primers, bullet-proof vests, police scanners, sniper scopes, narcotics, and cash.

That sounds like a war is going on in Texas! If bomb-making factories and firearms assembly plants are ordinary day-to-day business in the drug war along our southern border, the American people need to know more about it.

The Val Verde County chief deputy warned that drug traffickers are helping terrorists with possible al Quaeda ties to cross the Texas-Mexico border into the United States. A government spokesman in Houston said "at this point there is no connection with anything in Iraq."


We are not so easily reassured. We wonder what our government is doing to fulfill its duty to "protect each of them [the states] against invasion," as called for in the U.S. Constitution, Article IV.

The Department of Homeland Security now admits that there have been 231 documented incursions by Mexican military or police, or drug or people smugglers dressed in military uniforms, during the last ten years, including 63 in Arizona, and several Border Patrol agents have been wounded in these encounters. This admission comes after years of pretending that such incursions were just "accidents."

Homeland Security sent a confidential memo in January to our Border Patrol agents warning that they could be the targets of assassins hired by alien smugglers. The alert states that the contract killers will probably be members of the vicious MS-13 Mara Salvatrucha street gang (whose 17-year-old killers will be protected from capital punishment by a recent U.S Supreme Court decision).

There is, indeed, a drug war going on between rival drug gangs, but the U.S. government seems to be just a bystander without manpower or weapons to take action. Are we going to continue to leave our Border agents sitting ducks for Mexican snipers?

Rep. Tom Tancredo reported that sheriff deputies spotted a military-style Humvee near El Paso, Texas, with a mounted .50-caliber machine gun escorting a caravan of SUVs bringing illegal drugs into our country. Our outgunned and outmanned sheriff deputies and state highway patrol couldn't do anything except take pictures.

The Mexican government is unwilling or incapable of doing anything to stop the wide-open lawlessness on the Mexican side of the border. Our Border Patrol agents say they are often confronted by corrupt Mexican military units employed to protect and escort violent drug smugglers.

Meanwhile, the news media have shown us pictures of the just-discovered sophisticated 2,400-foot tunnel running under our border to a warehouse in San Diego. U.S. authorities recovered more than two tons of marijuana, and it is unclear how long the tunnel has been in operation or how many tons of drugs already passed through.

The Bush Administration whines that it can't (i.e., won't) do anything to implement border security unless its guest-worker/amnesty proposal is part of the legislative package, and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff looked pathetically weak when interviewed on television by Bill O'Reilly. When is our government going to protect us from the crime, the drugs, the smuggling racket, destruction of property, the endangerment to U.S. residents along our border and our undermanned Border Patrol?

In charge of protecting Americans against this war is 36-year-old Julie Myers, to whom President Bush gave a recess appointment after her Senate confirmation bogged down because of her total lack of law-enforcement experience. Her qualifications are her connections: she is the niece of former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers and the wife of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's chief of staff.

Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ) says that if you visit the border, you will find that almost everyone who lives there is armed for protection from illegals. Just imagine if you had to carry a gun to go to the grocery store or take your kids to school!

For the best up-to-date analysis of what our government should do, read Rep. Hayworth's new book called "Whatever It Takes: Illegal Immigration, Border Security, and the War on Terror." He calls for a security fence, 10,000 border agents, enforcement of penalties on employers who hire illegal aliens, cooperation between the feds and our 700,000 local and state police officers to enforce our immigration laws, more detention centers to keep illegals until they can be deported, and an end to the racket of giving U.S. citizenship to babies born to illegal aliens.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/phyllisschlafly/2006/02/14/186551.html

ramy
03-26-2006, 04:01 AM
man thats pretty bad.... I think you guys need to build that huge Israeli type wall and put the army on the borders... this is ridiculous..

StealthMode
03-26-2006, 05:05 AM
We are.... it has passed congress... it appears to be planned for 1/3 of the border as of this point.... can anyone specify better than I have?

Los
03-26-2006, 10:37 AM
I wonder why it hasn't gone national if they found so many weapons. Odd. If I missed it, oh well.

NewsMan
03-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Maybe one of those silent invasion theories are in effect? The peaceful invasion followed by an insurrection after the voting majority breaks away from the republic.

jedisponge
03-26-2006, 04:45 PM
Maybe one of those silent invasion theories are in effect? The peaceful invasion followed by an insurrection after the voting majority breaks away from the republic.
Well to be fair... it's kind of how Texas joined the Union. Kind of.

Miles.
03-26-2006, 05:02 PM
Maybe one of those silent invasion theories are in effect? The peaceful invasion followed by an insurrection after the voting majority breaks away from the republic.

Have you heard of Stephen F. Austin and the Texas Revolution? ;)

Jedisponge knows irony when he sees it! woot woot Nice one...

Greek soldier
03-26-2006, 05:05 PM
Texas Revolution? My god, the Texans are still talking about this...

In a more serious mood, unfortunately once again no tight border control = chaos. And it happens to every country.

Roaming East
03-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Bunch of guns ammo and explosive centric material in Texas? why is this news?

Hollis
03-26-2006, 07:33 PM
Bunch of guns ammo and explosive centric material in Texas? why is this news?

My toughts only 1200 some thing rounds, Heck that is less than three bricks of 22s. My neighbor has more than that.

ArchDeacon
03-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Texas Revolution? My god, the Texans are still talking about this...


You bet we are, it's in the Texas constitution that we can do so! That's why we're all voting for Kinky Friedman for governor, right men? ...Men, ...hello ... ???
p-)

Roaming East
03-27-2006, 01:00 AM
only 1200 rounds? i didnt read that. Thats not even a fun day of shooting for me. I have 3000 rounds of .40. Another 1000 in 8mm german and so much 7.62 russian and 12 guage lying around it should be illegal.

Will938
03-27-2006, 01:10 AM
You bet we are, it's in the Texas constitution that we can do so! That's why we're all voting for Kinky Friedman for governor, right men? ...Men, ...hello ... ???
p-)

Friedman is so in.

FallenAngel
03-27-2006, 01:17 AM
only 1200 rounds? i didnt read that. Thats not even a fun day of shooting for me. I have 3000 rounds of .40. Another 1000 in 8mm german and so much 7.62 russian and 12 guage lying around it should be illegal.

*dials BATF*

Give me a minute. I'm getting 'the man' on it as we speak. p-)

nick_ua
03-27-2006, 01:18 AM
Bunch of guns ammo and explosive centric material in Texas? why is this news?
Cause the divorse of Jesika Simpson is a huge news, or the lost girl from aruba is a huge news.
However another scnadal, or another president f*up, or sh**t like this is not a news, thats like nobody care

ArchDeacon
03-27-2006, 02:26 AM
Friedman is so in.

He'd be better than the dumbfvck we have now.;)

Will938
03-27-2006, 02:48 AM
He'd be better than the dumbfvck we have now.;)

I'm tempted to run...my whole campaign would be "I am the blue collar middle class American and I don't give two ****s about political pressure."

usmajunk
03-27-2006, 03:12 AM
Cause the divorse of Jesika Simpson is a huge news, or the lost girl from aruba is a huge news.
However another scnadal, or another president f*up, or sh**t like this is not a news, thats like nobody care

yes!
until someone or something gets hurt, then its news, and all the press will be like "where were you mr. president?"

o and Teeth of the Tiger?
yeah

Durandal
03-27-2006, 09:01 AM
What a joke.

I have 10 TIMES that much ammo in basement....1200 rounds *chuckle*

They may have been doing illegal things, but I would hardly call to "IED"s and a couple grenade fuses as a revolution or civil war.

Bunch of overreacting people...

ElHombre
03-27-2006, 11:50 AM
He'd be better than the dumbfvck we have now.;)

i'll give our current govenor some credit, he has really great hair. :lol:

ed316
03-27-2006, 11:57 AM
Bunch of guns ammo and explosive centric material in Texas? why is this news?


Because the stuff seize are apperently use by drug smugglers. More then likely with the help of some corrupt Mexican army folks.

ArchDeacon
03-27-2006, 12:38 PM
i'll give our current govenor some credit, he has really great hair. :lol:

It's more stiff than the corncob he has stuck in his @ss; he must be making up for something else...;)

East Scout
03-27-2006, 12:38 PM
What a joke.

I have 10 TIMES that much ammo in basement....1200 rounds *chuckle*

They may have been doing illegal things, but I would hardly call to "IED"s and a couple grenade fuses as a revolution or civil war.

Bunch of overreacting people...


Typical news..FOX dedicated like 3 hours to a suspect milk carton laying on a park bench at a school last month as labled it a possible IED....News is so insane.

ElHombre
03-27-2006, 01:29 PM
What a joke.

I have 10 TIMES that much ammo in basement....1200 rounds *chuckle*

They may have been doing illegal things, but I would hardly call to "IED"s and a couple grenade fuses as a revolution or civil war.

more like a really good party.

StukaJr
03-27-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm really confused by this dumb sh1t article! I've read it twice and there is no connection mentioned between the seizures at the illegal bomb making factory and the weak borders, MS-13 and drug traffickers... It's one paragraph about the seizure and the rest of the article about the (unrelated) fact that the sky is falling. I mean, has the link between the bomb maker been proven? What was the yield of the explossives? Was the bomb maker a foreign national or wore a funny hat and said "iz oke, mhe" a lot? Am I still supporting Terrorism by lighting up a doobie or putting gazoline into my car?

Destructive device production is illegal - I'll grant that. Obviously, the guy took the hobby of the reloading a little too far! Give me some proof of intent of supplying the terrorists or the drug traffickers with these weapons - is it that hard to imagine that a guy was building bombs for shnitzels and giggles? My best friends in middle school cooked rocket fuel in their bedrooms and I personally supplied him with magnezium for his fire bombs... Of course, all of that was done to undermine the Soviet Totalitarian Regime and start a revolution so I guess intraverted and essentric weirdos who like to make bombs do make empires crumble :D

300 primers... What else did they seize? Toilet cleaner and Moth balls? Those are prime ingridients for anybody's cookbook. Can people read the sh1t and give it a thought before copy+pasting it here? I mean, if it's retarded like that - it should really go into the Humor section.

ArchDeacon
03-27-2006, 03:59 PM
Hey bro, just because thats the standard loadout for a drive to the park in LA, doesn't mean it aint news elsewhere.

StukaJr
03-27-2006, 05:33 PM
Hey bro, just because thats the standard loadout for a drive to the park in LA, doesn't mean it aint news elsewhere.

That's not what I've said - the article uses an incident to drive a completely diffirent point, mostly with other hearsay/no concrete facts statements. Collecting firearms is not preparing for war. Having primers and gun powder in your house is not aiding drug traffickers. Obviously, having been arrested or convicted of a felony strips the citizen of the rights to own weapons and ammunition - thus the guns and reloading supplies got seized when the person was found to be making felonous destructive devices. The article draws non-existent parralels here, read it over.

Finally, the LA/CA cops are a lot more overzealous about this kind of thing - this would make the news if the guy had unregistered AK's. The only way to keep your guns is to follow the laws to the "T" over here. Any arrest (even wrongful) would trigger confiscation of registered firearms - the news crews would be there to film the arsenal.

Durandal
03-27-2006, 07:48 PM
Hey bro, just because thats the standard loadout for a drive to the park in LA, doesn't mean it aint news elsewhere.

Elsewhere?

Europe maybe...Chicago, New York city, California, and the District of Columbia.

Hell, I went a great dinner party this past weekend. The couple's daughter answered the door. My fiancee and I mingled and then some of the guys that shoot regularly went into the garage and checked out his new bowling ball mortar, then outside to shoot his silenced 10/22.

Its not even a blip on our radar.

Now, if there was a fire fight between the perps and the ATF because the Feds got all hot to trot and ready to take down bad guys, shot some children, and burned down the ranch, then THAT would be news.

ArchDeacon
03-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Elsewhere?
Europe maybe...Chicago, New York city, California, and the District of Columbia.

There you go, The website that posted this article is based in DC, written by an older, upper class white woman who is probably ultra sensitive to these issues and maybe even a little paranoid.
http://www.townhall.com/images/contributors/schlafly.gif

Durandal
03-27-2006, 09:35 PM
There you go, The website that posted this article is based in DC, written by an older, upper class white woman who is probably ultra sensitive to these issues and maybe even a little paranoid.
http://www.townhall.com/images/contributors/schlafly.gif


Ummm, hello, its Phyllis Schlafly the Rightist, the anti-ERA woman from the 70s and 80s.

Which makes this all that much bizarre.

NewsMan
03-28-2006, 07:27 AM
only 1200 rounds? i didnt read that. Thats not even a fun day of shooting for me. I have 3000 rounds of .40. Another 1000 in 8mm german and so much 7.62 russian and 12 guage lying around it should be illegal.

Tru.. true... but when it's in a cache that includes IED's and the like...

Roaming East
03-28-2006, 09:19 AM
They said explosive materials...in the media that means black powder and primer. Stuff i would assume a serious shooter would have in bulk anyway. Or did they actually find explosive devices i dont recall anymore. old age and all

Durandal
03-28-2006, 09:22 AM
Hell, I know guys that make their own tannerite, for exploding targets. I would imagine any dumb reporter would claim it to be an IED. :roll: