Polish Soldiers all over the World.

[Switek]

Lech Strong rulez.... :)

[Koniu]

Lech Strong rulez.... :)
You sad that because You probaly never drink a Bosman from Szczecin :)

[Switek]

You sad that because You probaly never drink a Bosman from Szczecin :)

no available in all retail outlets in my city... :(

Full respect to Bosman.. I tried few times, great stuff :)

[Polak]

I deserve being keelhauled for going more off-topic, but I can't resist.
Bosman must be one of my favorite beers, but as with EB it has almost disappeared from the market.:-(

[perdurabo]

I deserve being keelhauled for going more off-topic, but I can't resist.
Bosman must be one of my favorite beers, but as with EB it has almost disappeared from the market.:-(
i respect only non-pasterized beers if you guys visit wroclaw go to Spiz and then to Instytut PUB, first has own brewery second one buys from small brewery "Bartek" cheap and perfec taste, also beers fromLwowek Slaski are great. dont be afraid of ban, forum mods and owners are alcocholic like we so they do not ban for alco-talk p-)

[corran.pl]

i respect only non-pasterized beers if you guys visit wroclaw go to Spiz

true x1000

the Spiż bear is über the best.

[Polak]

i respect only non-pasterized beers if you guys visit wroclaw go to Spiz and then to Instytut PUB, first has own brewery second one buys from small brewery "Bartek" cheap and perfec taste, also beers fromLwowek Slaski are great. dont be afraid of ban, forum mods and owners are alcocholic like we so they do not ban for alco-talk p-)
In that case.... :)
I learned to drink non-pasterized beer from my friend about 2 years ago, and I must say that I really like them. Too bad that they are hard to get in some places. As of now I am located in Sweden, but back in Poland I live in Ustka, we only have the standard beers there, especially in my local store. Beer in Sweden is even a more tragic storry. :-(

[Ravage]

How about we got back on topic beer drinkers ?

[Switek]

building base for Polish troops in Sharana, Afghanistan

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar3.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar4.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar8.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar10.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar11.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar12.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar14.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar15.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/stories/Afganistan/korespondent/sharana/sharana1.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/stories/Afganistan/korespondent/sharana/sharana4.jpg...http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/stories/Afganistan/korespondent/sharana/sharana6.jpg...http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/stories/Afganistan/korespondent/sharana/sharana7.jpg

[~~~~]

OLV, Lubawa... man, that's just weird

[Ravage]

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/BUTOSO/viewsize/szar14.jpg

if a "mocher" sees this, its gona be ballistic.

I've got my heap punched after posting a photo of Jezus with a .50 cal :roll:

[daily666]

^^^ It's a good paintjob I must admit.

[mack pl]

Do you now how many Grom operators will go to Afgan??

83 according to Raport-WTO

[Switek]

Poles leaving to Iraq and Afghanistan...

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_1.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_4.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_7.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_8.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_5.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_6.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_14.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_11.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_15.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/GYOKDZ/viewsize/wylot_10.jpg


Let God be with you!

[Switek]

Nice but little pathetic compilations of pix

Polish Army part 1

http://www.youtube.com/v/ACPenrMJWy8


Polish Army part 2

http://www.youtube.com/v/VnQJ8K-Ec8M

[Musashi]

Nice but little pathetic compilations of pix

Not only that.
That author's Polish and English is pathetic. I could not read this ****, it simply drove me nuts :roll:

[Switek]

First shooting training in Afghanistan

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal1.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal2.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal3.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal4.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal7.jpg Hm, This is a version of HUMVEE leased by Poles in Aghanistan?

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal10.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal11.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal12.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal14.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal15.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal17.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal18.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal21.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal22.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal24.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal26.jpg

[Switek]

Od 16 do 20 kwietnia na wodach Zatoki Gdańskiej, Zatoki Pomorskiej i Bałtyku Południowego ćwiczyły okręty 3 i 8 Flotylli oraz śmigłowce Brygady Lotnictwa Marynarki Wojennej. Były to ćwiczenia zgrywające działania zespołów okrętów oraz lotnictwa.


Between April 16th and 20th there were held exercise on Southern Baltic sea. In the exercise participated ships from 3rd and 8th. flotillas and helicopters from Navy Air Brigade. The task of the xercise was to coordinate cooperation between Navy units and airforce.

http://foto.mw.mil.pl/foto.php?vhost=www&id_md=7795
hires (http://foto.mw.mil.pl/foto.php?vhost=www&id_lg=7795)

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hires (http://foto.mw.mil.pl/foto.php?vhost=www&id_lg=7800)

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[daily666]

wonder what were the results of this comparison:

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/FQRJJD/viewsize/gal1.jpg

great pics Switek :)

[~~~~]

their personal equipment looks rather crappy imo...

[Switek]

their personal equipment looks rather crappy imo...

They wrote in "Raport WTO"

http://www.altair.com.pl/r_arch/raport/raport_okladki/r0407_1.jpg

that there should be expected some improvement... The problem is still proper and modern body armor system

[daily666]

their personal equipment looks rather crappy imo...

at least 3 different vests on thos pics eh?

[Musashi]

Hey, guys, what kind of kevlar vests do our soldiers wear in the last batch of photos from Afghanistan? They don't look like MIWO ones.

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25701-2/1.JPG
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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25719-2/9.JPG

[Switek]

New Pix from Afghanistan

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9706.jpg
Whose camo is better? ;)

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9707.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9709.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9712.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9699.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9701.jpg Notice new gear.
http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9693.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9703.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9704.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/745/zdjecie_745_9694.jpg

[Switek]

Another from Afghanistan

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9724.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9722.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9721.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9720.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9717.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/746/zdjecie_746_9716.jpg New olive vest

[jocker_89]

Some photos from leave-taking of fallen soldier Tomasz Jura :(

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25931-2/3.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25934-2/4.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25937-2/5.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25925-2/1.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/25928-2/2.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

[Smok]

They should transport the coffin on some APC, cannon or tank not pick-up. Soldiers should make their last voyage using "good car" not some ****ty Chevy.

[madmike]

Coffin of the Polish soldier fallen in Iraq used to be carried on the shoulders of his comrades... Question is who made decision to carry it on the regular pick-up?

[Venom PL]

First five BRDM-2M96iK "Szakal" (jackal) in Afghanistan.

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal2.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal1.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal3.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal4.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal5.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal6.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal7.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal8.jpg

http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/zoom/LOACQR/viewsize/szakal9.jpg

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/26562-2/8.jpg
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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/26550-2/2.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/26548-2/1.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[Switek]

No doubt, Gen. Lamla works hard for his image... ;)

[jocker_89]

No doubt, Gen. Lamla works hard for his image... ;)

I am not sure but this is your 5000 post xD
My congratulations :) heh

[Switek]

I am not sure but this is your 5000 post xD
My congratulations :) heh

thanks, just a matter of time ;) (anyway I really don't care)

[lightfire]

Do I see no extra armour and NO main HMG on those BRDM-2M96iK ? Thats crazy...that's madness...

(awaiting for Leonideuz battlecry )p-)

[Juszi]

Madness...? THIS IS POLAND!!
p-)

[Adax]

Do I see no extra armour and NO main HMG on those BRDM-2M96iK ? Thats crazy...that's madness...

(awaiting for Leonideuz battlecry )p-)
Naaahh... extra armour and Heavy Machine Guns are for pussies(weaklings) p-)

[tony6]

Madness...? THIS IS POLAND!!
p-)

Good one:)

[daily666]

Wait, no add-on armour I understand but why the heck there's no HMG in the turret??? There always has been, has it?

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/26871-2/7.JPG
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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/26859-2/1.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

[Uncle Blues]

my few photos taken during today's celebrations anniversary of the May 3:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/uncleblues/3-maj---2007-002.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/uncleblues/3-maj---2007-011.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/uncleblues/3-maj---2007-001.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/uncleblues/3-maj---2007-006.jpg

[Switek]

Uncle Blues, Great first post! Welcome to the jungle of mp.net woot

[jocker_89]

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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27090-2/DSCF7795.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

[Switek]

Just for clarification for non Poles

May 3rd, Day = Constitution Day

btw, nice pix, Jocker woot

[lightfire]

Just for clarification for non Poles

May 3rd, Day = Constitution Day

btw, nice pix, Jocker woot

to add, the Constitution of year 1791 second Constitution in the world!
we partially celebrate this day too..

[CPL Trevoga]

Wait, no add-on armour I understand but why the heck there's no HMG in the turret??? There always has been, has it?

It looks like they were just delivered via plane, most likely they removed them for transportation. As far as armor, Jackal and BRDM-2 has better armor protection than uparmored hammer.

[Switek]

to add, the Constitution of year 1791 second Constitution in the world!
we partially celebrate this day too..

Yoy're right! Damn!

It was our Constitution woot

[jocker_89]

Yoy're right! Damn!

It was our Constitution woot

indeed ;-)

[mattin]

Some photos I've taken during the constitution day.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6158/p1050441xk5.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6990/p1050498cx3.jpg
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http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5958/p1050522ln1.jpg

[jocker_89]

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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/23367-2/rtutu.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

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www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

We greet you, We have you !

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27350-3/051.jpg


Behind gate already
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27348-2/049.jpg


They are still civilians. Poor guys :P http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27342-2/027.jpg


Conversation with psychologist
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27344-2/042.jpg


They look little frightened
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27338-2/020.jpghttp://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27340-2/022.jpg


They are now in uniform
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27346-2/047.jpg


Are They the same guys?! xD
www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

[Uruk-Hai]

Yeah my friend don't pass an exam on Uniwersity and he is in army now :P Real soldier from 2 days :P

[Venom PL]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27346-2/047.jpg

From this photo It’s obvious that they are new recruits – they don’t know how to properly wear a beret. :roll:

[Switek]

From this photo It’s obvious that they are new recruits – they don’t know how to properly wear a beret. :roll:


Becouse he did not instruct them properly

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27342-2/027.jpg

p-)

[jocker_89]

Polish 1st Special Forces Regiment

http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111660

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27480-2/Poznan6.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27478-2/Poznan5.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27476-2/Poznan4.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27474-2/Poznan2.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27472-2/Pilki5.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27470-2/Pilki4.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27468-2/Pilki3.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27466-2/Pilki2.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27464-2/Mecz13.jpg

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27427-2/DSC00665.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27429-2/IMG_5794.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27431-2/IMG_5812.jpg
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http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27435-2/IMG_5851.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27437-2/IMG_5858.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27439-2/IMG_5869.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27441-2/IMG_5872.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27443-2/IMG_5883.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27445-2/IMG_5890.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27447-2/IMG_5902.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27449-2/IMG_5913.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27451-2/P1010021a.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27453-2/P1010025.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27455-2/P3280027.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27457-2/P3280029.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[Switek]

Nice pix Jocker_89, thanks for sharing...

http://www.nfow.pl/images/smiles/brawo.gif

[jocker_89]

Nice pix Jocker_89, thanks for sharing...

http://www.nfow.pl/images/smiles/brawo.gif

Thx woot

BTW: this is my 200th post !!!
I am proud of myself xD heh



http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27263-2/1.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27267-2/2.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27269-2/3.JPG

Drilling of opening under charges

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27265-2/10.JPG

Sign of school on sleeve
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27271-2/4.JPG
unrolling of wire for position
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27273-2/5.JPG

Detonation fuse

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27275-2/6.JPG

preparation of charges

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27277-2/7.JPG

Arming of charges

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27279-2/8.JPG

loading of exploder

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27281-2/9.JPG

Detonation p-)


www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

[Switek]

few info:


Jeszcze w tym miesiącu powinny do Afganistanu trafić granatniki automatyczne kal. 40 mm. – Minister obrony narodowej podjął decyzję o interwencyjnym zakupie 20 amerykańskich granatników MK19

Polish MoD made a decission to buy 20 pcs of MK19 2 belt-fed automatic 40mm grenade launchers, which should be send to Aghanistan in current month, yet.

There are a rumours that Polses will be given US Army body armors and some sort of individual equipment. Even ACU uniforms are considered to supply our troops :roll: .

and some fresh pix:

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/60.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/61.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/62.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/64.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/65.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/66.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/10/67.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/69.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/70.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/71.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/73.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/68.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/11/75.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/12/84.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/12/85.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/12/87.jpg

http://www.isaf.mon.gov.pl/fotogaleria/12/89.jpg

[jocker_89]

good pics Switek :)

BTW: I have found three pics from Commando School in Afghanistan p-)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1492/41471011jt8.png
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1166/65023699yw6.png
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2083/75971923tq2.png

[Juszi]

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1166/65023699yw6.png
Strange vest, anybony knows, what is this?

[Kruglerek]

Yeah, it is Piorun vest.

[rhino]

nice to see the polish soldiers start to form the berets the way they were ment to be worn, not the frigging pizza hat stile:)

[Catch22]

Rhino, the problem is the usual land forces beret is the sewn version, ugly, hardly formable and big as shyte. There are some pressed felt versions on the issue but harder to get so most people I know just buy their private berets - either manufactured locally or german or french issue ones.

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27646-2/740.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27644-2/740+9.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27642-2/740+8.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27638-2/740+6.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27640-2/740+7.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27634-2/740+4.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27636-2/740+5.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27632-2/740+3.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27630-2/740+2.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27626-2/740+1.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27628-2/740+10.jpg

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[rhino]

Rhino, the problem is the usual land forces beret is the sewn version, ugly, hardly formable and big as shyte. There are some pressed felt versions on the issue but harder to get so most people I know just buy their private berets - either manufactured locally or german or french issue ones.


that explains it a bit, I got a couple few years back, they were made from felt, and like you said way too big, so I made an assumption all of them are made of the same staff, guess I was way wrong

[Musashi]

From this photo It’s obvious that they are new recruits – they don’t know how to properly wear a beret. :roll:

I came to the same conclusion. Some of them need a real bollocking.

[marlowe]

Afghanistan:
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/96.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/97.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/99.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/102.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/905/105nf4.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/106.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/107.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogalerie.html

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27886-2/DSCF8749.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27884-2/DSCF8714.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27882-2/DSCF8702.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27880-2/DSCF8701.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27878-2/DSCF8682.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/27876-2/DSCF8678.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28044-2/7.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28042-2/6.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28040-2/5.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28038-2/4.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28034-2/2.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28036-2/3.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28032-2/1.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28030-2/0.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

Some random pics from A-stan

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/96.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/97.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/111.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/13/95.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/17/156.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/17/158.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/17/157.jpg

www.isaf.wp.mil.pl

[Venom PL]

I have just found something interesting for Polish users – I think that you remember an old (2000) documentary movie “Kawaleria Powietrzna” (Air Cavalry) about Polish 25th Air Cavalry Brigade.

You can see all episodes here: http://www.dojarka.pl/tag/kawaleria+powietrzna

BTW: I hope it’s not a repost.

[Adax]

^^^
Great find! It was a nice program, and I would like to see it nowadays :)
Thanks.

[jocker_89]

Really great find
I always wanted to watch those movies again :)

[be-HIND-eyes]

Long time no see guys:)..... I think this is the good thread to mentioned that Polish MoD is consiering to send to A-stan circa 10 LEOPARD 2 tanks.....p-)

[Switek]

This is a really great news... anyway I'll be celebrating deployment of our leos when we'll see them on Afghan soil.

[Drako]

nice to see the polish soldiers start to form the berets the way they were ment to be worn, not the frigging pizza hat stile:)

I hate the way our land forces wear their berets - so friggin pulled down on their heads (AFAIR canadians and french wear their berets the same way). It looks like something made a big green poo on them :P

[Adax]

This is a really great news... anyway I'll be celebrating deployment of our leos when we'll see them on Afghan soil.
But I hope we'll get them back to Poland...
You know... we could gave PT-91/T-72M to Afghan forces, but 10(why so many to send them there?) great Leopard 2A4 !?

[Juszi]

I`m pretty sure they won`t give them away ;) Isn`t it too risky, sending tanks to a mountainous area?

[daily666]

But I hope we'll get them back to Poland...
You know... we could gave PT-91/T-72M to Afghan forces, but 10(why so many to send them there?) great Leopard 2A4 !?

Maybe because (as I've heard) the T-72 suspensions totally failed in A-stan during the Soviet occupation. Instead they used T-55/64s combo.

[Switek]

I`m pretty sure they won`t give them away ;) Isn`t it too risky, sending tanks to a mountainous area?

Here (http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/swiat/1,34180,4147103.html) you can find an answer. Why Leos? Couse they (Canadian) are there and some countriues (Denmark) which plan to send them as well.

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28085-2/DSC04697.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28087-2/IMG_6187.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28089-2/IMG_6192.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28091-2/IMG_6196.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28093-2/IMG_6205.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28095-2/IMG_6229.jpg
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28097-2/IMG_6232.jpg

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28099-2/IMG_6233.jpg

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[rhino]

I hate the way our land forces wear their berets - so friggin pulled down on their heads (AFAIR canadians and french wear their berets the same way). It looks like something made a big green poo on them :P


is that you in the avatar? thats what we call pizza hat, its good for pizzeria not a warriors head
the way its worn in Canada, and France, its moldet to the shape of the head, pulled down berets you can see on the american movies, the site of them makes me shadder

[Kruglerek]

This is officialy released photo ;)
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/23/219.jpg
What is interesting, is the soldier in the background with P90 ;)

[Jacek]

Mi sie wydaje czy on nie ma magazynka w Wiscie?

[jocker_89]

Mi sie wydaje czy on nie ma magazynka w Wiscie?

Please do not use Polish couse this is English language forum.

[Catch22]

Another batch from PAP photo service. Polish MoD visit in Afghanistan.

Few of our pals from 18th Airborne batt made it into news.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/518/afganistan22052007kr4.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afganistan22052007kr4.jpg)
Unshaved buddy on the left wears our new uniform (US 2007) in desert version. Beryls are painted with NFM EC weapon paints, using the pixel templates made by our friend known from "fast AK reload" movie. Some MIWO and TDI railed foregrips etc...

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3698/afganistan220520072aw6.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afganistan220520072aw6.jpg)
Also a MIWO railed foregrip, and our friend's S. heroic attempt to turn Beryl into some quasi DMR.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6339/afganistan220520073sz9.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afganistan220520073sz9.jpg)
Another "pixelated" Beryl, but what is more interesting - painted PK in the background with EOTech mounted on converted PCS NV optic mount!

Gotta improvise.

[....]

This is officialy released photo ;)
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/23/219.jpg
What is interesting, is the soldier in the background with P90 ;)

So, who do you think he is (guy with p90)? I'd guess, going by his gear, the guy next (to the left, our right) to the officers is probably from 1 PSK.Has Grom recently purchased p90s?

[Catch22]

... - you're prolly right bout the PSK lad there.
As for the other question - yes, 2305 has P90, and yes Meindl Desert Fox boots and 5.11 pants, shirt and cap usually speaks "GROM" these days in Polish armed forces.

[tony6]

Unshaved buddy on the left wears our new uniform (US 2007) in desert version.
You mean "unshaved buddy on the right" I suppose..?

[....]

... - you're prolly right bout the PSK lad there.
As for the other question - yes, 2305 has P90, and yes Meindl Desert Fox boots and 5.11 pants, shirt and cap usually speaks "GROM" these days in Polish armed forces.

Sorry Catch, not trying to sound like an airsoft warrior, I've just never seen a Pole with a p90. That's why I assumed he was from unit 2305.

[Catch22]

Right tony, I mean "right" ;-)

And ... - no problem, but it's no secret inner circle knowledge that GROM purchased some 5,7mmx28 weapons and uses them, as it seems for PSD work.

[jocker_89]

A-stan

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/21/210.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/21/212.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/21/213.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/20/198.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/24/222.jpg


www.isaf.wp.mil.pl (http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/)

[~~~~]

any more info on those piorun vests?
is this some new issue gear to replace the olv/klv vests?

[jocker_89]

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/227.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/229.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/230.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/231.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/232.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/233.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/234.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/235.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/236.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/237.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/240.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/242.jpg

www.isaf.wp.mil.pl

[~~~~]

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/237.jpg

this one is good... lol

[jocker_89]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28382-2/DSCF3652.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28384-2/DSCF3658.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28386-2/DSCF3660.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28388-2/S5000956.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28390-2/S5000957.JPG
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/28392-2/S5000968.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[rhino]

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/25/237.jpg

this one is good... lol



indeed, the international sign for "give me a break or Ill piss my self":)

[Uruk-Hai]

Hello I'm back I was suspended :P this photo looks like he wants to piss but he dont know how to do it or where he can go to piss himselfe

[Catch22]

any more info on those piorun vests?
is this some new issue gear to replace the olv/klv vests?

No it's not new, and its not meant to replace anything. Moratex did it few years ago. Rather crude integrated modular vest, without any QR. Resembles a FSBE AAV vest. Sztab Generalny just purchased a batch of these vests for their VIP's touring in Iraq and Afg. No pouches, no sh_t. Just bare vests.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/Catch22/piorun.jpg

[~~~~]

No it's not new, and its not meant to replace anything. Moratex did it few years ago. Rather crude integrated modular vest, without any QR. Resembles a FSBE AAV vest. Sztab Generalny just purchased a batch of these vests for their VIP's touring in Iraq and Afg. No pouches, no sh_t. Just bare vests.



smartasses from the major staff... those must be XXXL sizes then.
that's a pity it is not going to replace the KLV/OLV series. is there any replacement planned for them?
PS: thanks, Catch.

[Mrufka]

More pics from A-stan
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria_26.html

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9125/24915692f4kb9.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24915692f4kb9.jpg)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1971/250157be0enf4.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=250157be0enf4.jpg)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1205/24815b91fblb7.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24815b91fblb7.jpg)
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2022/25115e2b78uo4.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25115e2b78uo4.jpg)
Captured weapons
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7177/246189995fms6.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=246189995fms6.jpg)
interesting butt stock in this AK looks like handle from shovel LoL
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2655/247vk8.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=247vk8.jpg)

[Smok]

This SWD looks quite new.

[flanker7]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2655/247vk8.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=247vk8.jpg)

Hm, shovel handle as a stock! :-) AKs are the best!

[Catch22]

~~~~ Here, on the right you can see one of the proposed replacement vests, MON 4 made by JMD. Check the newest, June issue of NTW, there should be a short rewiev of of it there.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1205/24815b91fblb7.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24815b91fblb7.jpg)

I'm not sure about the black plate carrier though.

[Koniu]

This SWD looks quite new.
J think it is AK with hunter handle not SWD :D

[Herrmannek]

I missed one of the Wiadomosci(news) few days ago and there was a table showing literally "piece of crap that should never be bought for polish army" and MOD minister standing next to it... Anyone knows what whole thing was about?

[Switek]

It was about crap (http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4594&Itemid=27) itself...

[tony6]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2655/247vk8.th.jpg
Now that's what I call a field modification!
Isn't it beautiful?:)

[rhino]

J think it is AK with hunter handle not SWD :D

it sure has a long gas tube and a barrel

[FW200]

Ak is a Russian Type 2 Ak-47.. the sniper rifle is a Romanian PSL, an Ak derative in 7.62x54R.

[marlowe]

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/257.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/258.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/259.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/261.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/268.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/271.jpg
http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/28/273.jpg
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pictures from: http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/index.html

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[Venom PL]

Polish soldiers from second shift (Afghanistan) training in „Wędrzyn” - 11.05.2007

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[jocker_89]

Great pictures !!! :)woot

[jocker_89]

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www.wojsko-polskie.pl

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[Venom PL]

Soldiers from 17th Wielkopolska Mechanized Brigade - mountain training 14.05.- 26.05.2007

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Very good pictures especially this photo p-)

[KamilBGGASG]

what is the name of mountains where the training was??

[Starblast]

^^^ Sudety, Szklarska Poręba

[Mrufka]

New toy for Polish soldiers or just some learning ?

[KamilBGGASG]

i think is just some learning.....................

[jocker_89]

I didn't know where to instert this photos

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A-stan


http://www.army.mil.pl/aktual/6_2007/070607_afg/6.jpg

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[Nieznany]

This post is awesome. :) thanks all

[Switek]

I didn't know where to instert this photos


Good place for them. Thanks for sharing, some are awesome! :)

[jocker_89]

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[jocker_89]

Some random photos from Polish training fields.
I have hope this isn't repost :)

Part one

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Part two

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www.army.mil.pl

[perdurabo]

strange wheelchairs, using plastic garden chairs :roll:

[Venom PL]

I assume It's better than nothing.

[Quinten]

Do i see some Russian soldiers on these pictures...or are they Polish (Look at the camouflage and Telnyashka)

[Switek]

Do i see some Russian soldiers on these pictures...or are they Polish (Look at the camouflage and Telnyashka)

They're Ukrainians. On other phoos you can see Lithuanians, as well.

[Sevryn]

Great Pix.

BTW we got over 500 T-72 left, why don't we modernize them to PT-91 standard? I know they recently decided to buy more Leopards but that wont be enough we need more modern tanks. And as I see it upgrading our T-72's that we have left would be the way to go.

We still have time to think about the next generation Tank, our problem currently is not Technological but rather it has to do with funds. Our budget currently is somewhere around $10 billion, or nearly 8 million euros whichever.

[Switek]

Great Pix.

BTW we got over 500 T-72 left, why don't we modernize them to PT-91 standard? I know they recently decided to buy more Leopards but that wont be enough we need more modern tanks. And as I see it upgrading our T-72's that we have left would be the way to go.

We still have time to think about the next generation Tank, our problem currently is not Technological but rather it has to do with funds. Our budget currently is somewhere around $10 billion, or nearly 8 million euros whichever.

The problem is as usual: money.

Those T-72 are 20 years old and older. I guess that only half of them are operational now. There is an idea, in our armed forces, to replace them by light tanks based on CV 90120....

[Sevryn]

The problem is as usual: money.

Yep, I agree to us this has never been an issue of Technological know how.



Those T-72 are 20 years old and older. I guess that only half of them are operational now. There is an idea, in our armed forces, to replace them by light tanks based on CV 90120....

It says we got 586 units of old T-72's left, if they can't be modernized then ok. Right now we have 232 PT-91, 128 Leopards and another 123 Leopards on it's way.

I think what would work for us best at least in the time being before we go to the next generation Tank is maybe a Fighting Vehicle like the Bradley with TOW missles. Bradley is basically like a light tank, during gulf war and operation Iraqui Freedom the knocked out more tanks then Abrams. So going with a vehicle like this or simmilar to it might not be such a bad idea.

[wholagun]

The problem is as usual: money.

Those T-72 are 20 years old and older. I guess that only half of them are operational now. There is an idea, in our armed forces, to replace them by light tanks based on CV 90120....


CV 90120 - where did you hear this?
they're not cheap - but they're one of the best IFVs

[Korath]

CV 90120 - where did you hear this?
they're not cheap - but they're one of the best IFVs

I read about it, too... a few days age on Onet.pl. It was written that they could be manufactured in Poland (at least partially). However a perspective of of 10 - 15 years was mentioned.

[Switek]

CV 90120 - where did you hear this?
they're not cheap - but they're one of the best IFVs


Here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=112919&highlight=light+tank) is a thread about this

[Venom PL]

Few pics from A-stan

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/859/zdjecie_859_10642.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/859/zdjecie_859_10643.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/859/zdjecie_859_10644.jpg

They are still without any additional armor.

[~~~~]

Few pics from A-stan

They are still without any additional armor.

I've just read that yesterday evening one of them was hit and damaged during a rocket attack on Ghazni F.O.B. in Afg.

[Venom PL]

Yes....Yesterday there was a rocket attack on our base In A-stan. Two rockets were fired – both exploded inside the base. As a result of this attack one of our Rosomak’s was lightly damaged (damaged wheel) and one container was also damaged.

Polish MoD - http://www.wp.mil.pl/artykul_wiecej.php?idartykul=3163

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[Juszi]

Jesus Christ, they look like a buch of airsofters.

[Drako]

Don't you see that they are WSO trainees? I wouldn't be surprised if that was the first time they held a gun in their hand.

[Juszi]

WSO - Wojskowa Szkoła Oficerska, yes? Than sorry, that would explain alot.
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67th anniversary of the battle of Narvik.

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SYRIA


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www.wojsko-polskie.pl
www.army.mil.pl

[Venom PL]

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7054741297071311951&hl=pl

[Switek]

:cantbeli:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/4230/z4230929X.jpg

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[jocker_89]

:cantbeli:


You know what:D!
Me too hehe

[Norsu]

http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/29447-2/DSC06811.JPG

www.wojsko-polskie.pl (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl)

Do Polish troops use XA-180/85s in Syria, or are they just some general UN equipment that has been used there for ages?

[Adax]

Do Polish troops use XA-180/85s in Syria, or are they just some general UN equipment that has been used there for ages?
As far as I know - NO. It isn't "ours" Patria.

[Uruk-Hai]

he have the same MIL - TEC tactical vest as I bought in allegro :P
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/30306-2/3.jpg

http://allegro.pl/item203464315_kamizelka_taktyczna_oliwkowa.html

[Mishka Zubov]

Could anyone post some meaningful photos of Poles in Iraq, possibly with some comments? All I can see in the archives of "Redakcja Wojskowa" are variations on one single theme: General Lamla pinning medals, shaking hands and saluting. He must be tired of all that hard work.

This is not right, I am pissed off. I am sure ordinary soldiers perform their duties well, and General Różański, the commander of the Brigade Battle Group from Al Kut has been leading them well. But where are their pictures, where are their stories? The reports from Iraq seem extremely uninformative and biased as well. After all, the Multinational Division Centrum South is made of several nationalities. Where are their pictures and stories, aside from the "Mongolian soldier" story, which re-surfaced again recently?

All I could find about Diwaniya and Al Kut comes from some external sources. For example, a touching story of an Armenian soldier, who lost his leg while on patrol with Poles in Al Kut, http://yandunts.blogspot.com/2007/04/armenian-officer-wounded-in-iraq.html.

Or an information about a contingent of 2000 Georgian soldiers who are about to take over the command of Wasit Province (base Al Kut) from Poles, http://news.sawf.org/Lifestyle/38713.aspx. "Redakcja Wojskowa" does not mention this at all, aside from providing a short information about "Poles from Al Kut to be relocated to Camp Echo to join the other Poles stationing there". And yes, there is yet another gallery of pictures of general Lamla saying goodbye to commanders of Kazach and El Salvadorean contingents, which - I believe - will work with Georgians from now on.

General Lamla seems to be complaining a lot about security deterioration and about poor performance of police forces in MDCS area of responsibility. But should not he take part of the blame on himself? There is a blog run by a fellow Latvian, who strongly thinks so, http://therearguard.blogspot.com/. Warning: this is quite a bitter pill to swallow.

[Smok]

Search this forum. You will find thousands of photos with Poles in Iraq.

[Mishka Zubov]

@Smok
I meant: current Polish/Iraq pictures posted to this thread, not the old ones or not the photos posted in other threads. Isn't this thread a kind of mega-thread for everything Polish? Unless I missed something, there is very little here Iraq/Polish oriented from the last two month. I thought you guys have access to some resources that are not accessible to me.

[Switek]

@ Mishka Zubov, Nobody cares about Iraq now. Poles started thier service in Afghanistan. All eyes are watching there now.

[Starblast]

All eyes are watching there now.

all eyes? true. but somehow i can find just few photos a week. sad that polish media are not interested in sending correspondents there.

[Mishka Zubov]

all eyes? true. but somehow i can find just few photos a week. sad that polish media are not interested in sending correspondents there.

To underline my point again:
Breaking news from Iraq, June 19, 2007, "Redakcja Wojskowa": an article about "Cavarly Holliday" with six pictures.
General Lamla appears in four of them with: (1) a handshake, (2) a salute, (3) a speech and (4) a hero pose.

The article concludes: "After short celebration the soldiers went back to their duties. Some spent their holliday patrolling streets of Diwaniya." But the reporter/photographer did not go out with them. Why bother! OK, I understand, that photographer is the Lamla's court photographer, the "embedded" one. But he sucks big time! There are no meaningful news from Iraq, as I said before.

OK, I understand what Switek is saying about all eyes switched on Afghanistan now. Not that I think that this is good for the image. But let us examine the news from Afghanistan:

1. Embedded reporting.
Actually, not bad, in my opinion. Some articles may qualify as interesting, or at least as informative.

2. Independent reporting: Rzeczpospolita, Gazeta, Dziennik

Actually some articles are not bad - compared to Canadian press. At least they go out from their hotels and interview ordinary Afghans. I already translated one such article for this forum. That was from Gazeta, but Rzeczpospolita had few good ones as well. But, for many reasons, not all reports would qualify for translation for this forum.

Some are full of defeatism. Just take a look at the Dziennik's headlines:
"Polaków czeka koszmarnie trudne zadanie", "Afganistan gorszy niż Irak", "Wchodzimy do piekła". Yes, Sherlock, we all know it!

Some are actually funny in their naivete. Case in question: "Afganistan - wojna psychologiczna", http://www.dziennik.pl/Default.aspx?TabId=148&ShowArticleId=48886
Actually, I commented on that one on their forum.

What is missing? Photos! Photo-journalism.

[Switek]

To underline my point again:
Breaking news from Iraq, June 19, 2007, "Redakcja Wojskowa": an article about "Cavarly Holliday" with six pictures.
General Lamla appears in four of them with: (1) a handshake, (2) a salute, (3) a speech and (4) a hero pose.

You're right and answered yourself:


What is missing? Photos! Photo-journalism.

Why is that? Couse most of the time our troops spend inside base. During fighting missions outside, nobody will be so irresponsible to take a civilian photographer with them.

[Mishka Zubov]

Why is that? Couse most of the time our troops spend inside base. During fighting missions outside, nobody will be so irresponsible to take a civilian photographer with them.

You are not talking about military photographers, are you? Because if someone signs his article as Lieutenant Colonel he is probably qualified to go out with troops on patrol. And there are also the boys from our propaganda group - whatever its name.

If you are talking about independent reporting then hmm.. I saw an interview with BBC journalist who spent some time embedded with British troops. [Funny: Polish reporter interviewing the British one - that's what I call the first hand reporting.] I also saw a very long video of Canadian troops on patrol.[This one was posted on this forum as well]

I am not even talking about zillions of pictures - censored or otherwise - taken by coalition soldiers. Not that I have any right to demand this kind of news from Polish soldiers. But the other types - why not?

[Mishka Zubov]

Since I do not want to screw anything while posting my first pictures here (hotlinks issues, hosting, etc.) I am just providing you with URL and description of several interesting pictures - letting you to decide what and how to display it.

This is a personal/military blog of an American soldier serving somewhere in Poland in some hard-to-guess mission. Training? Mutual military exercises?

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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05/playing-with-aks.html
We "borrowed" some AK from the Polish Troops
All I got to say is..I could get use to carrying one or having one in my car or house....

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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05/bonding-time.html
After all days of training it was time to do some bonding with the Polish Forces.
Of course there were a lot of talk about my last name. I talked to them for some time about the situation in Poland, and they were pretty surprised about my awarness of politics and overall situation in PL. Its good to keep up with that stuff, at least you have something to talk about.
BTW> these guys are HIGH SPEED, LOW DRAG, TEFLON COATED INDIVIDUALS, I am glad they are on our side. Also these are all volunteers for Iraq...

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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05/opfor.html

These are the funniest ****ers I ever had. They crack me up with all kinds of qoutes and jokes.
They were designated to be the OPFOR for this rotation, and so far they are doing an excellent job. I like talking to them in our free time, about anything, women, cars, drinking, etc. I think if we were in one army we would make a great squad. Sometimes you just meet different people from different parts of the world that you just click with.

[Uncle Blues]

really great find! :ok:

I more interensting post from the blog:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3406/dsc00938rm7.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00938rm7.jpg)

SSG Belmot decided to look Hollywood with the Polish gun truck, so I took a picture of him posing like that. Polish soldiers think their equipment is ****ty, but from what I see, it is more reliable that some of the equipment I worked with is US. Weird

[Switek]

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Source (http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/v/obchody_swiat/50latberetow/?g2_navId=x9c80774c)

[~~~~]

they look like Ruskies, making such stupidities in that show off...

[Starblast]

oh come on. they are assault unit and they have to act aggressively... after all it`s only show for some VIP`s

[jocker_89]

Switek I have already posted your photos :)
http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76583&page=42

[wholagun]

SSG Belmot decided to look Hollywood with the Polish gun truck, so I took a picture of him posing like that. Polish soldiers think their equipment is ****ty, but from what I see, it is more reliable that some of the equipment I worked with is US. Weird

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/report.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/report.php?p=2578209) all soldiers complain about their equipment, its a universal expectation
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2578209)

[Mishka Zubov]

really great find! :ok:

Thanks. BTW, Did you see him, dressed in gala uniform, rubbing shoulders with Ambassador Ashe? That's what puzzles me a bit about him - unless every American soldier is treated so royally abroad. :-)

[Switek]

Switek I have already posted your photos :)
http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76583&page=42

Well I wasn't sure if posted or not. woot

[Uncle Blues]

Afghanistan, Wazi Khwa district in Paktika province. Medical Day.
source: :arrow: http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/

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[jocker_89]

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www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[jocker_89]

http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=13484
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=13486
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=13488
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=13492

www.wojsko-polskie.pl

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what the **** is that?? I mean that disguise on the left...
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/30877-2/10.jpg

[Switek]

what the **** is that??
http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/gallery/d/30877-2/10.jpg

CIMIC, so not suprise for me ...

rofl

[Mishka Zubov]

@Jocker_89
Care to explain the title "Iraq: Assistance in ruins"?

Are you being sarcastic - stressing futility of such efforts, or do you mean "providing assistance to people living among the ruins"?

If you mean the latter - you should have seen the real ruins, many years ago, at the center of Paris, known as Belleville, where the Algerians used to live. My French girlfriend used to be a social worker, and I would accompany her there from time to time. Man, that was really a scary place - almost as on photos of Warsaw after WW2. Staircases hazardously hanging by some rusty rods, kids playing in some holes. I have not been to Paris for more than 10 years, so I can only guess that Algerians live at suburbia now.

[Switek]

@Jocker_89
Care to explain the title "Iraq: Assistance in ruins"?

In rural areas and in small cities even pretty new Iraqi houses look like ruins. ;)

What doesn't change the fact that some of them have been destroyed, during the last four years.

[Mishka Zubov]

In rural areas and in small cities even pretty new Iraqi houses look like ruins. ;)

What doesn't change the fact that some of them have been destroyed, during the last four years.
I do not remember what country it is, but I am pretty sure that it is one of those "civilized" countries, where people never finish their newly built houses. One typically sees some iron rods sticking up through the roofs.

Apparently one does not pay taxes for an unfinished house.

[Mishka Zubov]

There is an article in Stars and Stripes today entitled
"Commander: U.S. did not know children were at raid site",
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=46827

This event will indirectly affect Poles in Paktika, although they have not been involved in the incident. Col. Schweitzer and his boys are still responsible for the eastern part of Paktika, bordering with Pakistan. But Lt.Col. Strąk, a commander of the Polish Battle Group, reports to Col. Schweitzer - as you know.

Not good.

[Switek]

Paktika and Ghazni provnices are really sh!tty place. This accident makes it worse.

btw: Strąk, not Stręk

[jocker_89]

@Jocker_89
Care to explain the title "Iraq: Assistance in ruins"?

Are you being sarcastic - stressing futility of such efforts, or do you mean "providing assistance to people living among the ruins"?

If you mean the latter - you should have seen the real ruins, many years ago, at the center of Paris, known as Belleville, where the Algerians used to live. My French girlfriend used to be a social worker, and I would accompany her there from time to time. Man, that was really a scary place - almost as on photos of Warsaw after WW2. Staircases hazardously hanging by some rusty rods, kids playing in some holes. I have not been to Paris for more than 10 years, so I can only guess that Algerians live at suburbia now.

I have only translated "Assistance in ruins" from polish title "Pomoc w ruinach" :)
And about the ruins in France I can't even imagine that how it can look

[Mishka Zubov]

I have only translated "Assistance in ruins" from polish title "Pomoc w ruinach" :)

Yes, it sounds equally well in both languages. :-)
I was not trying to sound facetious. I did not noticed any ruins at first on those pictures, so that's why I asked.

[jocker_89]

Yes, it sounds equally well in both languages. :-)
I was not trying to sound facetious. I did not noticed any ruins at first on those pictures, so that's why I asked.

I also didn't noticed any ruins on those pictures but only devastated homes and poor people :-(

[Mishka Zubov]

Paktika and Ghazni provnices are really sh!tty place. This accident makes it worse.


I am providing this link since this news is related to the Polish Battle Group in Afghanistan.

DoD Briefing with Col. Schweitzer and Maj. Gen. Khaliq via Video Conference from Afghanistan in the Pentagon Briefing Room, Arlington, Va., June 20, 2007
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3995

This is a live briefing, with a lot of "noise", so I am also providing few extracts below, as a summary of some kind:

Organization and formations in Eastern Afghanistan:

ANA plans and commands the entire operation in Eastern Afghanistan. 4th Brigade and Polish Battle Group are formally subordinate to Maj. Gen. Khaliq. [Notice slip of the tongue below: Col. Schweitzer should say Maj. Gen. Khaliq, not Colonel Khaliq.]



Col. Schweitzer: The 4th Brigade of the 82nd is a subordinate formation to Colonel Khaliq and the 203rd Corps as we continue to try to separate the enemy from the population and provide an opportunity for governance to get down to the people, giving the people an alternate view from what the Taliban had been providing.

Let me just give you a brief update about U.S. formations and our new organizations since I spoke to you last. First of the 508th is still the theater tactical force down there in RC-South doing great things for the commander of RC-South. The 1st of the 503rd, the battalion out of Italy, U.S. battalion out of Italy, has replaced 2nd of the 87th from the 10th Mountain Division, and they're now working along Eastern Paktika along the border area. We had the -- privileged to have the Polish Battle Group TOA last week -- transition of authority -- and so they're now part of Task Force Fury. They're doing a fine job in western Paktika.

We've got 473 and 2508, as well as one of the four PRTs that are organized underneath our Tactical Operations Center here forward in Ghazni working for General Khaliq in support of Operation Maiwand. And our Special Troops Battalion is still a battlespace-owner in Paktia doing a phenomenal job in Paktia and Lowgar. And our logistical battalion, I don't know how they're doing it, but they're providing logistical support and enabling us to maintain our operational tempo throughout 27,000 square miles of battlespace -- doing a phenomenal job.

And with that -- that's just a brief update just to let you know things are still going pretty well for us out here. And we've been fortunate, as I indicated in the opening comment, to be partnered with General Khaliq and his formation. He is the commander of the 203rd ANA Corps. He developed this plan that we're currently executing. As one of his subordinate formations and having said that, I'll turn it over to General Khaliq.


Hearts and minds
Altough ANP still gets pushed by Taliban, ANA fights them well and is quite visible in the area. That's what villagers want to see: their own people, not the coalition forces. How to measure the support by locals? See below:



And the answer is, over the last year -- there's 83 districts in the area -- in Task Force Fury's area of operation. About a year ago, about 19 districts were in support of the government. About -- in January, we had about 30 districts that were in support of the government; today, after a series of ANA-led operations, where about 60 of the 83 districts, that the village and the community leaders and the district leaders look to their government for the answer versus the Taliban.

And then if you go, well, how do you know that, how do you measure it?You measure it by the shuras that are conducted, by the independent shuras that are conducted, where the village leaders or the mullahs if you're in Ghazni now are saying they no longer accept recruitment in the Taliban of their kids. And there's no better barometer than that that indicates that these communities and these villages are looking towards their government now versus the Taliban.


Effect of suicide attacks
Negative, according to Col. Scheitzer:



No, they're not having an effect. They're not having an effect on the ground with respect to being able to retain ground. They are having some IO victories with this stuff because it -- the way it plays out. But the reality of it is their -- this is not another -- this is not Iraq. The Afghan people do not tolerate that particular scheme of maneuver by the enemy. And it is not working in support of them. And I'm telling you we're pretty confident that these attacks on the civilians are helping the cause to get the communities and the districts to start looking to the government.

The Afghan people do not appreciate that particular approach. And despite what may or may not be hitting the airwaves, down there on the ground in these communities, in these surrounding communities, they tell us day in and day out that they don't like it, they don't want to be a part of it, and they want more Afghan National Army forces on the ground securing their communities. So that's the effect that's getting created. It's more of a rejection than it is an acceptance or an acquiescence.

[jocker_89]

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www.wojsko-polskie.pl

[Uncle Blues]

Marszałek Dorn w Afganistanie:

http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/fotogaleria/41/410.jpg


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http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/

[Mishka Zubov]

...
www.wojsko-polskie.pl

A knew it - those pictures looked very familiar, and the roads gave it away. Some of those roads still seem to be in a very good shape, almost as if Hermann Göring just built them. This area used to be one of his personal hunting reserves. I double checked the source and yes: this is the Snieznik Massif, Sudetes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Králický_Sněžník_-_Śnieżnik ! I used to spent many a vacation there and help to restore an old house - now a nice retreat. It looks like those Polish soldiers had a good time. Who would not have! :-)

[Switek]

http://www.10bkpanc.sow.mil.pl/kronika/2007/2007_1/images/211_2.jpg

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[jocker_89]

A knew it - those pictures looked very familiar, and the roads gave it away. Some of those roads still seem to be in a very good shape, almost as if Hermann Göring just built them. This area used to be one of his personal hunting reserves. I double checked the source and yes: this is the Snieznik Massif, Sudetes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Králický_Sněžník_-_Śnieżnik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr%C3%A1lick%C3%BD_Sn%C4%9B%C5%BEn%C3%ADk_-_%C5%9Anie%C5%BCnik) ! I used to spent many a vacation there and help to restore an old house - now a nice retreat. It looks like those Polish soldiers had a good time. Who would not have! :-)

Beautiful area and I have hope that I will someday visit this magnificent place :)

BTW: Switek gorgeous photos :)

[Switek]

Land Forces commander Lt. Gen. Waldemar Skrzypczak during his latest inspection in Afghanistan

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[lightfire]

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Sargent Bull Randelman here again, I see ;)

[Venom PL]

Band of Brothers all the way lightfire :)

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Land Forces commander Lt. Gen. Waldemar Skrzypczak during his latest inspection in Afghanistan

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Are the guys in Afghanistan getting new body armour/carriers?

[jocker_89]

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[jocker_89]

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[Flyboy77]

Great Photos, Thank Joker

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it looks like they try to prevent being endangered by IEDs by keeping distance from roads and riding alongside them.

[Mishka Zubov]

The text associated with the source of your pictures:


Soldiers of the Polish Battle Group have been patrolling for the last dozen days. Every day they go into another region of our responsibility zone, where they look in every, even the most forgotten, nook and crannie. Their presence there is a visible sign of ever increasing Polish activity in Afghanistan.
Pictures taken through a windshield of a Hummer or from a turret of a "Rosomak" (Wolverine) best illustrate their tasks.

Below are the pictures taken by the soldiers from the Battle Team Charlie, commanded by Major Olgierd Cieśla, during one of their patrols.

Battle Team Charlie - Are they in FOB Wazi Khwa? I saw it mentioned somewhere before.

[Venom PL]

EUFRAT IX Military exercise

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[jocker_89]

Nice photos Venom :)

[Venom PL]

Thx Jocker_89 - the plesure is all mine. ;-)

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note the masked translator:

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[Kvaari]

Any word on how those AMV's are doing in Afghanistan? Do they suit well for that kind of terrain?

[Switek]

On July 7th there will de delivery of aditional armor. In the middle of of July Rosomaks will start their combat service. I expect many info and comments about their performance.

[jocker_89]

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[jocker_89]

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[jocker_89]

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[Mishka Zubov]

2007-06-27 09:06
Soldiers will be testing a new sniper rifle

Our soldiers in Afghanistan are eagerly waiting for a new kind of firearm. The sharpshooters have high hopes for the rifle "Bor". At this time only two such pieces will be given to Polish snipers, who will be testing them. The rifle may become irreplaceble in the war against terrorists.

What's important, the new rifle has been created in Polish works. After many years of trials and tests in the Research and Development Center for Mechanical Equipment in Tarnow their work has been successfully concluded. This is a 7.62 caliber rifle, with 10 rounds magazine.

According to the producer, its effective shooting distance is 800 meters. The only disadvantage of the rifle is its weight - 6.5 kg, and this does not take into account the weight of the optical sights and ammunition.

The rifle succeded in all factory test and trials and - what is most important - the Bor technical documentation has been also accepted. This means that Polish army can now proceeds with purchases, without any impediments. Our sharpshooters currently use Finish Sako, which had replaced Russian SWD. Sako was delivered to the army in 2001 and its first users were the commandos from 1PSK and the GROM operators. Each rifle costs 50,000 zloty. Now the same soldiers might be getting the new Bor rifles.

Dariusz Rembelski

source in Polish: Dziennik, http://www.dziennik.pl/Default.aspx?TabId=14&ShowArticleId=50328
[translated by me]

Bor's image is available at above URL. Click on it to get it magnified in a separate window.

If anyone knows how to get that image embedded here, please do so.

[rhino]

here
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6.5 kg thats over 13 lb??? for a 7.62 thats a bit much

[wholagun]

guess the Polish arms industry hasn't heard of composites and synthetics

[tony6]

Actually the body of the rifle is made of duraluminium to make it lighter than the steel one.
And when it comes to sniper rifles - weapon can't be too light. Weight is an advantage in this case.

[rhino]

Actually the body of the rifle is made of duraluminium to make it lighter than the steel one.
And when it comes to sniper rifles - weapon can't be too light. Weight is an advantage in this case.

yes, weight is an advantage in precission weapon, but whats the actual roung 7.62x??? 51? it could easily be 1.5-2.00 pounds lighter if not more

[Mishka Zubov]

About alleged glimmering

The Polish article cited at the bottom of this message, dispels certain allegations that Polish uniforms have poor camouflaging properties when viewed via night-vision devices, i.e. that they "glimmer in nighttime". The author, Adam Dubiel, explains how the frequency transformation (from infrared radiation to visual light) implemented by night-vision devices is counter-matched by a similar transformation of properly designed fabrics, such as the ones used in Polish uniforms. In order for camo pattern to be effective at nighttime, as well as in daytime, the fabric itself reinforces the camo pattern for nighttime conditions. The first two pictures below explain that Polish unforms are indeed properly designed for both: day and night conditions.

The remaining two pictures, however, demonstrate that some auxiliary fabrics, such as those used in knapsacks, helemet covers and flak jackets do not satisfy the "frequency shift" property. [Actually, the American DCU uniforms (desert 3-color camo) are not much better either.] Some heads have been already falling for some time, and the manufacturing, testing and purchasing procedures of Polish Army are subject to some serious changes.

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Collage of the Polish desert tropical uniform wz.127PI (camo: "pantera pustynna"), with the jacket of American ACU uniform (camo: pixel pattern UCP) and with the pants of American desert uniform DCU (camo: desert 3-color) - as seen in visual light under artificial illumination in a room with dark painted walls.

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.. and this is how the elements of those three uniforms are seen in the darkness via a nigh-vision device. All three elements are clearly visible on the background of the dark wall. But this nothing wrong with this, because they suppose to blend to a real background they were designed for, such as a desert scenery - not the dark painted walls of buildings.
The patterns of Polish "pantera pustynna" (desert panther) and American UCP are clearly visible, as well as differences in their colors and countours of their deforming blots. This means that both those uniforms behave correctly when viewed via a night-vision device.
However, the American DCU pants (desert 3-color camo) are seen uniformly, because of their light coloristic and large surface of blots.

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The elements held in hands here are made of a simple polyester fabric, which has no special reflection properties. Seen on the left is a knapsack covered by a desert camo and on the right - a sample of fabric covered by a wood camo. Their camo patterns are clearly visible under the visible light...


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... however they loose their comouflaging property, taking shapes of uniform light blots - and thus are clearly visible and turn on attention. This is how some Polish personal equipment looks like via night-vision devices: knapsacks, helmet covers, and covers of flak jackets.

source in Polish: "Raport" Raport 06/2007, Adam DUBIEL, "O rzekomym świeceniu", http://www.altair.com.pl/files/raport/0607/swiec.htm
[captions translated by MZ]

[jocker_89]

More photos from EUFRAT IX Military exercise

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[Mishka Zubov]

^
A good "Join the Army" poster!
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[gafkiwi]

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6.5 kg thats over 13 lb??? for a 7.62 thats a bit much

Our model of L-96 AWs are around 6.2kgs. More often than not its in the grab bag on your back. This rifle looks pretty good in that its quite compact, the AW is designed for shooting but not alot of thought to carrying the bloody thing.

Just a question for our poles, How common are optics on rifles in the infantry Bns?

[STEPAN1983]

There was some pictures of afghan translator with polish uniform; You think its ok that poles give modern polish uniform to afghan guy? I can't imagine americans giving ACU to the afghanian... Its strange...

[jocker_89]

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[Switek]

There was some pictures of afghan translator with polish uniform; You think its ok that poles give modern polish uniform to afghan guy? I can't imagine americans giving ACU to the afghanian... Its strange...

It's a normal procedure used by US armed forces, as well. Interpreters are first target for snipers so they must look the same like other soldiers, for their protection.

[Mishka Zubov]

Yes, just take a look at some headers in the press (just google "afghan translators"):

Al Jazeera English - News - Taliban Kill Afghan Translator
AsiaMedia :: AFGHANISTAN: Taliban beheaded Afghan translator
Afghan Translator Beheaded, Taliban Says » Netscape.com
Afghan Translator Abducted
Afghan translator was lightly wounded
Two American Special Forces soldiers and their Afghan translator were injured


Interpreters and translators are the first targets and they are big assets to any unit. They should be protected by all means and shown some gratitude. How do you do it - that's another matter. I guess, Poles do not mind offering them their uniforms as some kind of protection.

There is article somewhere about some Danes demanding that their Iraq interpreters should be given the right to settle in Denmark after Danes exit from the conflict. See also:



Saturday, June 30, 2007 07:17 GMT
The Danish Government announced it will grant visas to Iraqi interpreters and aides who have assisted the Danish troops in Iraq. Defense Minister Soeren Gade said the Danish authorities will offer shelters to these Iraqis.

It is to be mentioned that 22 Iraqi interpreters and more than 100 workers in the human field have been assisting Danish Forces since their deployment in Iraq in 2003.

http://www.alsumaria.tv/en/Iraq-News/1-4806-Denmark-to-offer-visas-to-Iraq-interpreters.html

[jocker_89]

Rushmor base is not many larger than soccer field. It is placed several hundred meters from Sharana city. In base permanently live sixty americans, six poles and four romanian soldiers.

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[muttbutt]

Polish SOF soldier in action during recent op's alongside US and Iraqi SOF's
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[STEPAN1983]

Americans never offer ACU uniforms to iraq/afghan translators? am I right? Ive never seen pictures of it.

[Switek]

Americans never offer ACU uniforms to iraq/afghan translators? am I right? Ive never seen pictures of it.

You're wrong. Do some research in today's pix threads. I'm sure you'll find them esp. from Iraq woot

[Wojsko Polskie]

haha nice barrel bbq.

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[jocker_89]

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[Mishka Zubov]

Invitation of the White Eagle
2007-07-04 10:07:10
Text: Cpt. J****z WDOWSKI
Photos: Archive of Battle Team "Charlie", Wazi-Khwa
source: http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/aktualnosc_78.html
[translation of selected text and making captures - MZ]

Invited by the local authorities and the dwellers of the village of Mushuri, Wazi-Khwa district, Paktika province, Afghanistan, Polish soldiers met with kids of Mashuri coeducational primary school, on July 2, 2007.
This was one of the series of meetings with children and youth of the district, organized by the paratroopers of the Battle Team "Charlie" of the Polish Battle Group, the CIMIC Support Group and the PSYOPS Group.
Our soldiers were especially pleased because this time the meeting was initiated by the locals.
[A cynical thought: Rumours went around that Poles give away nice goodies and show pretty slides. Yeay! No regular school today! - MZ]

"Such actions allow for mutual familiarization. Afghans learn about Poles and our culture, and they recognize some common historical elements - which creates bond of mutual understanding and cooperation. In addition, this is the better part of our job here when we have a chance to meet directly with people and children" - says Lt. Artur Pracki, a platoon commander.

"Even though I serve in Afghanistan only as a private first class I am convinced that I do something useful, something 'great'. I am glad that I am here and that I can help these people. We all realize the immensity of work and challenges in front of us, but we are ready to face it in order to help Afghanistan and its people" - stresses private first class, Juliusz Wiącek, CIMIC Support Group.

Mjr. Olgierd Cieśla, a commander of the Battle Team "Charlie" of Polish Battle Group, plans to continue with further CIMIC actions - not only promotions in schools of the district, but also with other projects.



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A teacher with two school children - Mashuri primary school, district Wazi-Khwa.

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Three cute Afghan girls from the Mashuri school.

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A multimedia presentation given to the kids of Mashuri primary school. Children were mostly interested in pictures of animals of Poland and views from the Baltic seaside - a very exotic and unusual experience for them.
Notice the capture 'Bóbr' over the projection of the beaver - that's the 'beaver' in Polish of course. I wonder who would need to know that - the presenter or the kids? :-)


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Mohammad Khan, a director of Mashura primary school, receiving some gifts from the Polish soldiers.
In addition, all school teachers were given some pedagogical kits. Chidren received 250 kits - each containing a satchel, notebooks, crayons, penballs, flamasters, pencils, erasers and pencil sharpeners.

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Mashuri coeducational primary school, their teachers and Polish soldiers. Their basic problem is lack of a school building. Kids are taught under the blue sky and their teachers have to improvise a lot. The CIMIC Support Group from the Polish Battle Group intends to implement several school building projects in the Paktika province.

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Some Afghan kids from the coeducational primary school at the village Mashuri of the district Wazi-Khwa. The school has 10 teachers for about 250 girls and boys, 4-12 years old. District Wazi-Khwa has 23 schools, but only three of them are coeducational.


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A Polish-Afghan friendship symbolized by an Afghan kid in his drawing. I am not sure whether the birdie below the flags represents the Polish Eagle or the Peace Pidgeon.


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Polish White Eagle on the white field of the Polish flags - drawn by an Afghan kid. Priceless, I could not do any better. :-)

[wholagun]

eeeerrrrr the Eagle facing the wrong way

[Mishka Zubov]

eeeerrrrr the Eagle facing the wrong way
A nitpicker! I can make it facing either way:
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http://www.oakcreek.k12.wi.us/ca/mwiederhoeft/gr_1_Egyptian_Drawing_Mitchell_0405.jpg
because I am using Egyptian style for my drawings. You know this convention: faces shown in profile, feet parallel and in the same direction, etc.

But all conventions are somehow artificial, which I am going to illustrate by this little story:

One of my friends, a volunteer to some African country, once asked a local artisan to make him a special chair - which he has drawn on a large piece of paper, in a 3D parallel perspective, using 1:1 scale. Few days later he received the product: a flat piece of plywood, exactly matching the contours of the drawing, with some slots in it. The poor guy did not understand anything about parallel projections. That tells you something about artificiality of European art and its conventions. :-)

[jocker_89]

eeeerrrrr the Eagle facing the wrong way

Because it was drawn by kids p-)

[Venom PL]

6th Air Assault Brigade

http://www.youtube.com/v/x1efdp9fnus

[wholagun]

Because it was drawn by kids p-)

yeah I know, it's all good. I was pleased to see that drawing.

In fact the first several Polish coat of arms had the eagle facting right, it was only later that the eagle was designed to face left.

[jocker_89]

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[Mishka Zubov]

A recollection of Major General Bogusław Pacek, Chief Constable of Polish Military Police, about the first mission of Polish Special MP Unit to Afghanistan, 2005:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2611915#post2611915

[Mishka Zubov]

One day after the accident, on July 4, the commander Of Polish Military Contingent UNIFIL in Liban, Lt-Col. Artur Dębczak, visited soldiers who suffered non-life-threatening injuries near Makabra, South Liban.
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They are recovering well and fast, so good for them! But the name of the place is scary.
[Makabra -> Macabra -> Macabre]

source in Polish: http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5844&Itemid=29

[Mishka Zubov]

All over the world? Sure - and partying too :-)

A gala concert was arganized at the Bagram base to commemorate the most important day in history of USA - The Independence Day - 4th of July.

General Richard Rodriguez, a commander of 82th Division, has invited representatives of all military contingents stationing at the Bagram base, and representatives of Afghan security forces, Afghan Police, Afghan National Army and Afghan administration.

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Polish Military Contingent was represented by Gen. Marek Tomaszycki, a commander of Polish Military Contingent and his deputy, Col. Jan Rydz.

[jocker_89]

All over the world? Sure - and partying too :-)


Yes :hug:

And some photos from the Independence Day

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[Mishka Zubov]

Imagine how much better their party would be if they had the service like that: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2606572&postcount=723

[Mishka Zubov]

Update - Polish Military Contingent KFOR in Kosovo

Poles are currently stationing in two American bases in Kosovo.

One is a very comfortable Camp Bondsteel, near the town Uroševac - where they serve as a part of POLUKRBAT, Multinational Task Force East MNTF(E), along the Ukrainians and a squad of Lithuanian soldiers. They control the Southern mountaineous frontier along the border of Kosovo and Macedonia. The POLUKRBAT battalion resides there since August 28, 2006.
http://www.army.mil.pl/aktual/4_2007/160407_kfor/3.jpg

One company of Polish soldiers serves in the Northern mountaineous frontier along the border with Serbia. They are stationing in Camp Nothing Hill, North of the town Leposavic and river Ibar, where they serve along Czechs and Americans as part of Task Force Ibar, MNTF(N), French region of responsibility.
http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazeta/images/stories/Kosowo/maj/nothing/nothing1a.jpg

Previously the POLUKRBAT resided in the Camp White Eagle, near Priština, from July 1999 until August 2006. The Camp White Eagle has been officially closed on September 1, 2006.

You can easily identify locations of towns Uroševac, Leposavic and Priština, even on this compressed map:
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If this resolution does not satisfy you, there are several high resolution maps of Kosovo available here: http://www.nato.int/kfor/media/maps.htm

Fog of Military Information
Keep those dates in mind if you do not want to get confused by the "Fog of Military Information". For example, there is a website of POLUKRBAT, http://www.tffalcon.hqusareur.army.mil/polukbat/index.htm, which has tonnes of good pictures, but also a lot of outdated information, such as the commanders' names, their photos and profiles. BTW, the current commander of PMC KFOR is Lt-Col. Zbigniew Ząbek.

Other "Fog of Military Information" sites are the official site of "Ministry of National Defence", http://www.mon.gov.pl, "Operational Command" site, http://www.do.wp.mil.pl, and a bunch of other "brass" related sites. They seem to copy the same stuff over and then they ignore to update their pages from time to time. Shame on you!

[Switek]

Mishka Zubov, mate woot. You're doing a great job here. Keep it doing!

[Mishka Zubov]

Thanks, I will, but only if my Mom doesn't take my computer away!

[jocker_89]

Thanks, I will, but only if my Mom doesn't take my computer away!

Buy your mother some gift and she will leave your computer alone :hug:


BTW: Some fresh photos from A-stan :)

Kpr. Artur Ławnicki

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