300

[OnTheRocks]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/

http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/index.html

They're making a movie based on Frank Miller's comic '300'.
The comic is about the Battle of Thermopylae and centers around the 300 spartans (+allies) that held off a huge Persian army to buy the greek forces time to prepare for the invasion of their homeland.

I hope they don't fark this up! Interestingly enough I heard that there are 2 other movies being produced that deal with the exact same thing. George Clooney apparently holds the rights to one of them.
what do you guys think?

edit: added link to official site of the movie

discuss

[Blarney]

I think it will do well considering it is Frank Miller. Clooney does well too in his stuff. But Still, 2 movies on the same thing, not cool.

[Greek soldier]

I hope these 300 will not be portrayed as "gay"...

[ronin2172]

Depending how the production company interpets Miller's work it could be ok. If done right it can be as god or better than SIn City, done badly it can be as horrible as Robocop 3, which Frank Miller wrote.

I don't think Miller's version isn't 100% accurate, but it's a movie and not a documentary

[OnTheRocks]

I hope so too

I should have been more specific tho. George Clooney holds the movie rights to a book called Gates of Fire whereas this movie is based on Millers comic, however these two have the same theme.

Greeksoldier> well in the comic the spartans sometimes fight naked I think (I havent read it yet, Im only downloading it right now).
But what would protray it as gay?

Ronin2172: Well it wont be accurate, its entertainment, not history. unfortunately

the thing that confuses me the most is how one of the characters is named Centurion in the movie...eh...

[Greek soldier]

The "Alexander" movie portrayed Alexander the Great as homo******, even though it hasn't been proven by historians (yet).

I am a bit sleptical about how they will prtray Leonidas and his 300 soldiers.

And about the naked part, I should remind you that the Spartan men and women were walking naked in their city so as to show to the Greek Gods their body's perfection. ;)

[ronin2172]

I hope so too

I should have been more specific tho. George Clooney holds the movie rights to a book called Gates of Fire whereas this movie is based on Millers comic, however these two have the same theme.

Greeksoldier> well in the comic the spartans sometimes fight naked I think (I havent read it yet, Im only downloading it right now).
But what would protray it as gay?
Gates of fire might be a better movie if what I read is true....not only is Clooney producing but Michael Mann (Heat, Collateral, Last of the Mohicans( will be directing it. It will definitely have a bigger budget and be shot on location...while 300 is primarily being done on a soundstage in front of a green screen (by the same folks who did Sin City)

[ronin2172]

The "Alexander" movie portrayed Alexander the Great as homo******, even though it hasn't been proven by historians (yet).

I am a bit sleptical about how they will prtray Leonidas and his 300 soldiers.

And about the naked part, I should remind you that the Spartan men and women were walking naked in their city so as to show to the Greek Gods their body's perfection. ;)
As for the whole gay part it really doesn't bother me one way or the other if they were or not. It doesn't lessen their sacrifice or fighting prowess one bit

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

And about the naked part, I should remind you that the Spartan men and women were walking naked in their city so as to show to the Greek Gods their body's perfection. ;)

Good. So nothing gay then.

[GoSka37]

The "Alexander" movie portrayed Alexander the Great as homo******, even though it hasn't been proven by historians (yet).


Actually he was portrayed as bi******. But Oliver IHateHollywoodAndEverythingIShatOut Stone made it seem like he'd rather have a man then a dame... though he did really go to town with that chick if i remember correctly.

[Greek soldier]

Unfortunately, I cannot trust Hollywood for ancient Greek history and for World History in general.

I do blame also the previous Greek government, for Oliver Stone proposed a co-production of ther "Alexander" movie with the Greek Ministry of Culture, but rejected the whole idea!!!

[OnTheRocks]

The "Alexander" movie portrayed Alexander the Great as homo******, even though it hasn't been proven by historians (yet).

I am a bit sleptical about how they will prtray Leonidas and his 300 soldiers.

And about the naked part, I should remind you that the Spartan men and women were walking naked in their city so as to show to the Greek Gods their body's perfection.

I dont remember seeing Alexander ever nailing Hephaistion in the movie, there were intonations and hints of them having a mano a mano relationship, but it didnt really bother me or distract me from the story.
but as for alexander being gay or not, well...Im not touching that with a ten foot pole, I'll leave it to other people to argue about

and as for the walking around naked part I knew that pretty much already heh...


Gates of fire might be a better movie if what I read is true....not only is Clooney producing but Michael Mann (Heat, Collateral, Last of the Mohicans( will be directing it. It will definitely have a bigger budget and be shot on location...while 300 is primarily being done on a soundstage in front of a green screen (by the same folks who did Sin City)

sounds really groovy!
do you know where I can find more info on this movie by any chance? I'd really appreciate it!

[ronin2172]

Unfortunately, I cannot trust Hollywood for ancient Greek history and for World History in general.


Well frankly you should realise hollywood's main goal is to entertain and not educate. No hollywood movie has ever claimed to be 100% accurate

If you want 100 accuracy watch the History Channel or PBS

Onthe rocks...check out IMDB...they should have the most current info..

[Greek soldier]

Entertain with making false statements?

An example: I cannot remember which movie was, but it was portrayed that the Americans where the ones that cracked the "Enigma" code, while the reality is that it was the British that did it...

[OnTheRocks]

you forgot Poland

[ronin2172]

Entertain with making false statements?

An example: I cannot remember which movie was, but it was portrayed that the Americans where the ones that cracked the "Enigma" code, while the reality is that it was the British that did it...
again it is an entertainment medium not a historical repository....anyone who relies on hollywood for historical fact should be slapped

[OnTheRocks]

here is the link to a site that deals with the developement of the movie

some shots in there to look at too.
looks really nice!

http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/index.html

[ed316]

I hope they don't go homo like Alexander.

[Haiw]

Depending how the production company interpets Miller's work it could be ok. If done right it can be as god or better than SIn City, done badly it can be as horrible as Robocop 3, which Frank Miller wrote.
If it's based on Frank Miller's stuff then it's crap either way...


I don't think Miller's version isn't 100% accurate, but it's a movie and not a documentary
...because of that. :| I've seen the trailer and.. well.. it just doesn't look good. :| I feel like it won't portray the Spartans very true to life or realistically.


And about the naked part, I should remind you that the Spartan men and women were walking naked in their city so as to show to the Greek Gods their body's perfection. ;)
However their stance on nudity, the Spartans really didn't FIGHT ****.

[OnTheRocks]

looks like they are going to wear something similar to jock straps :)

[Gauntlet]

Entertain with making false statements?

An example: I cannot remember which movie was, but it was portrayed that the Americans where the ones that cracked the "Enigma" code, while the reality is that it was the British that did it...

"U-571" was a portrayal of the British stealing a U-Boat in order to steal an Enigma code machine.

Instead of the historical U-110 that was stolen by the British. They made a "U-571" and made them Americans. Bravo Hollywood... jackasses.

[SAPPEROIF]

I didn't see anything on this so here it is

Enter the website --> Click on Media --> Click on Trailers.

www.300themovie.com (http://www.300themovie.com)

I'll definitely be checkin this one out..

[Aerosoul]

http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76619

[digrar]

Merged............

[Hunterhr]

Entertain with making false statements?


It's cinema, not a documentary. Have you seen the trailer? It's essentially a comic book committed to film.

I'm a history major, but I'll probably see it and not complain about it because the visuals look absolutely striking.

That said, anyone associating the Spartans with 'freedom' needs to talk to a couple of heliots.

[SAPPEROIF]

Thats odd...I used the search,oh well..still bad ass

[Jobu]

The only movie I'm actually looking forward to.

[Aerosoul]

Thats odd...I used the search,oh well..still bad ass
it was hard to find, i knew the thread was somewhere. i know searching for 300 didn't yield anything. no worries.

[SAPPEROIF]

Anyone know where the song during the trailer is from?
I hope they actually use it..souds bad ass going along with those scenes.

[Aerosoul]

Anyone know where the song during the trailer is from?
I hope they actually use it..souds bad ass going along with those scenes.

Nine Inch Nails - Just Like You Imagined

[Howie Kaluha]

Nine Inch Nails - Just Like You Imagined

Thanks for that. I had been wondering for weeks now woot

[SAPPEROIF]

Cool.
Thanks Aerosoul:)

[loganinkosovo]

Good. So nothing gay then.

Well.....if you look at Spartan Life......it was pretty weird if not down right gay. The men and young boys stayed in barracks and crept in every once in a while to rape their wives.

But you really didn't want to be a Helot.......thats for sure!

[Nick_Karatzides]

They're making a movie based on Frank Miller's comic '300'.As far as I know, they are not making the film right now. The film IS ready and it'll be on wide screens the first months into 2007.




I hope they don't fark this up!Even if the director follows exactly the Frank Miller's comic '300' script, it IS a crap because the story would be based on a cartoon - not on the real story. Just imagine a "Judge Dred" styled - based on a cartoon prototype - movie.




I hope these 300 will not be portrayed as "gay"...IF all the "gays" could fight, the way these legendary 300 Spartans plus 700 Thespians did, every Army would be proud to have "gay" battalions. I said... "IF"!




I don't think Miller's version isn't 100% accurate, but it's a movie and not a documentaryOfcourse it isn't accurate! After all, it's a COMIC.




Well frankly you should realise Hollywood's main goal is to entertain and not educate. No Hollywood movie has ever claimed to be 100% accurate. If you want 100 accuracy watch the History Channel or PBSThe "Blackhawk down" movie was a real story and the director TRIED and finaly managed to make the film as real as could be. The "44mins - North Hollywood shootout" was a real story and the director TRIED and finaly managed to make the film as real as could be (I've seen the real TV news camera shots and I was impreased on how's the director did exact same scenario).




That said, anyone associating the Spartans with 'freedom' needs to talk to a couple of heliots.Well, the "Crypteia" team (undercovered Spartan "agency" made to terminate Helots who tried or may try to start revolutions) was even worst for them. But we all should agree that every "great nation" into the ages has it's own "agencies" to terminate things that could threat it's interests - even today!




Well.....if you look at Spartan Life......it was pretty weird if not down right gay. The men and young boys stayed in barracks and crept in every once in a while to rape their wives.I bet you mean "to rape the Helot's wives". The Spartan women were very honored during these years. If a Spartan woman had been raped, the guilty should be very hard punished and quite propably been executed - no jokes with Spartan women honor!

[Holycrusader]

Entertain with making false statements?

An example: I cannot remember which movie was, but it was portrayed that the Americans where the ones that cracked the "Enigma" code, while the reality is that it was the British that did it...

HMMMMMMM

:/

[SAPPEROIF]

HMMMMMMM

:/
U571 ? only one I can think of

[Warlord]

Smells like another "Kingdom of Heaven" to me.

[Nick_Karatzides]

Stranger, go and tell the Spartans, here we lie, Obedient

Battle of Thermopylae 480 BC as written into Historynet (http://historynet.com/mh/bl-battle-of-thermopylae/). The sun blacked out by arrows. Few brave men had broken all their weapons and shields and finaly fought to the death with bare hands and teeth in order to give time to their allies to regroup. Their fighting spirit still lives with us today.


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Afbeelding-Thermopyles_monument.jpeg/800px-Afbeelding-Thermopyles_monument.jpeg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Afbeelding-Thermopyles_monument.jpeg)

The modern monument in Thermopylae, placed very close to the exact point where the last Spartans died fighting.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Thermopiles_memorial_epitaph.jpg/800px-Thermopiles_memorial_epitaph.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Thermopiles_memorial_epitaph.jpg)

Epitaph with Simonides' epigram, placed on the top of the small hill, on the exact point where the last Spartans died fighting.