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EsoognomEhT
03-27-2006, 09:34 PM
First Muslim scout group in Wales

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41487000/jpg/_41487444_scouts_203.jpg Salah Aboulgasem (left) is cub leader of the scout group

The first Muslim scout group in Wales has been launched with more than 100 members. Salah Aboulgasem, cub leader of the 1st Cathays al Huda group in Cardiff, said he wanted to help young Muslims become leaders in their community and society.
Mr Aboulgasem said scouting - one of the longest-running youth organisation in the world - was the best way to achieve this.
The scout movement will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2007.
The different sections of the group will meet four times a week at Roath Park Community Centre in Cardiff.
Mr Aboulgasem, whose brother Yusuf is one of the cubs, said the first Welsh Muslim group would also be open to non-Muslims.
But he told BBC Radio Wales that having a Muslim scout group was important to Muslim parents.
"If [the parents] know they are with other Muslims who can understand them and treat them better - and suit their needs - then they will be more than happy to bring them along," he said.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif We're trying to bring up and develop individuals so not only can they lead their local communities, but lead society http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Cub leader Salah Aboulgasem


Activities at the scout group include educational, spiritual, and creative programmes.
Camping, outdoor activities and alternative leisure activities which are often not accessible to Muslim youths will also be available, the group said.
Mr Aboulgasem said there were problems with young Muslims under-achieving in education.
"There's a lack of integration with Muslims in wider society and scouting is the most successful, longest-running youth organisation in the world," he said.
"We try to promote and teach them individually and collectively to be active within their own communities and also within wider society.
"Scouting is an excellent opportunity for that because you have a district system... We meet with other groups from across the city and across the district and we get to know each other and combine activities together.
"We're trying to bring up and develop individuals so not only can they lead their local communities, but lead society.
"There's definitely a need for something and scouting is the best form of that."


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No doubt there's some secret plan behind this ey chaps? :roll:p-)

Should add in all seriousness its good to see a positive mood towards better integration and interaction, and one being reported for once

guard2.bn
03-27-2006, 09:47 PM
whats the opposite of integration? nvm *g*

*insert joke about how they teach them to build bombs*

EvanL
03-27-2006, 09:51 PM
It's a good idea. But with the Welsh mentality, this type of group won't last very long.

cbreedon
03-27-2006, 10:02 PM
Why move to a country and then set up your own within it?????

East Scout
03-27-2006, 10:12 PM
Why do they need a seperate group? Whats wrong with the normal Scouts?

EsoognomEhT
03-27-2006, 10:16 PM
They toast non halal marshmellows round the campfire

buttchowder
03-27-2006, 11:20 PM
Typical multicultural bull s h i t. They should have just 1 scout group, like in America. I think Europe is having trouble with immigrants integrading because of things precisely like this.

futurepilot2004
03-28-2006, 08:47 AM
When I was in the Scouts, there were two organisations in this country, one Catholic one and a protestant one. Also, the scouts oath starts with "On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God". Scouts are fundamentally linked with the christian church so whats wrong with there being a muslim one??

Geezah
03-28-2006, 10:05 AM
I didn't last in Cub Scouts, I was more into the Boys Brigade.......

2Sheds_Jackson
03-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Separate but equal, eh? I'm still trying to figure out why they have moved to a nation with values and traditions that they disagree with on such a fundamental level. This would appear to be just another instance of remodeling the new place in their own image. That's fine I guess, as long as everybody knows what the plan is.

Umm-Qasr
03-28-2006, 12:04 PM
Typical multicultural bull s h i t. They should have just 1 scout group, like in America. I think Europe is having trouble with immigrants integrading because of things precisely like this.The Jewish Committee on Scouting of the National Capital Area Council offers a variety of activities to benefit Scouts of the Jewish faith ... link (http://www.boyscouts-ncac.org/pages/220_jewish.cfm)

What's the problem ... :roll:

Hollis
03-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Scouting troops have been sponsored by Churches and other religions too. There is a Merit badge that one can get for ones own religion. There is no BIG here. If it adds to intregation that is a plus. There are activities that troops can do with other troops. There has already been articles on Muslim boy scouts, there are difficulties too, obviously the Scouts can not escape the world and it's opinon against Islamic Jihad.

Trigger
03-28-2006, 01:18 PM
So...are there Muslim girl scouts?

Didn't think so.:|

Lazy Lob
03-28-2006, 01:30 PM
When I was in the Scouts, there were two organisations in this country, one Catholic one and a protestant one. Also, the scouts oath starts with "On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God". Scouts are fundamentally linked with the christian church so whats wrong with there being a muslim one??


Coz they are the ones always moaning and getting their knickers in a twist about not integrating into society and that no one accepts them. The reality is that they do not really want to. Boo hoo.

alex423
03-28-2006, 02:45 PM
expect the ones that already are, in which you just dont hear about because theres no problem.

i know a kid who is muslim and in boy scouts, the biggest problem is that he dosnt sit around the fire eating hot dogs with of the kids.

tyovan
03-28-2006, 05:04 PM
There's a lack of integration with Muslims in wider society

And yet they go and form their own group for Muslims instead of trying to integrate with the locals? WTF?

haze99
03-30-2006, 01:01 AM
RIP United Kingdom!

You have thrown away your birthright. Only to inherit a new form of facism!