M4 accuracy

[hood]

So here's another newb question... What's the difference in accuracy between the older m-16, and the newer m4 carbine? Has the same accuracy been achieved through other means like a more powerful bullet?

[Anonymous]

My M4 groups as well as a stock M16A2 at all useful ranges, i do find that because of the longer sight radius i can achieve sligthly better groups with an A2, but that´s just a personal thing, not related to the M4 otherwise,

The U.S normal issue round is the M855 for both weapons, no separate ammo for the M4/M4A1 carbines.

[hood]

I was under the belief that a longer barrel would give you greater accuracy at a greater distance. They've been able to shorten it by better technology?

[Anonymous]

A longer barrel gives a higher velocity which will lead to better accuracy at some point, but at normal ranges the actual grouping is similar in both.

A short heavy barrel might actually group better than a longer heavy barrel in some cases since it is stiffer.

[Anonymous]

I don't even need to guess what the T stands for.

:)

[Anonymous]

the shorter barrel was implemented for a changing battlefield. it's called "sweep radius". cqb...close quarters battle. the battlefield...cities.
as for accuracy there's no diff. if your shooting at human targets at ranges under 100m. and no difference in lethality due to a change in bullet velocities. out past 200m .....well lets call it nit pickin.
get shot in the chest at 300m with 5.56 from ANYweapon and the end results should be the same.( in no vest is worn) you be toast!

[Anonymous]

DB, just doing my best to keep a watch on some of the pictures and topics here....

[Anonymous]

I know T. Thanks. BTW...happy holidays.

[Anonymous]

Thanks...wasnt so happy time, had a relationship problem, from which solving i just got back home...

[Anonymous]

Thanks...wasnt so happy time, had a relationship problem, from which solving i just got back home...

How long of a shot was it?
;) :lol:

[Anonymous]

Thanks...wasnt so happy time, had a relationship problem, from which solving i just got back home...

How long of a shot was it?
;) :lol:

I know that was meant as a joke, but it is still inappropriate.

[Diamondback]

Well, you are entitled to your opionion.... I thought it was humorous, the person I was speaking to thought it was humorous, and if you knew me or the person I was speaking to you just might find it humorous too.

But I'll probably lose a lot of sleep tonight because you thought it was inappropriate. Thanks for the input.

rofl

[vision]

:| The M-4 has been found of late to have an "over heat '" problem.
As far as the lethal range and characteristics, and which is best, the A-2 or M-4, I would not mind either, but for CQB and in FIBA I would go M-4.
Oh the SS-109 round is a bad, nasty bullet, I hit a helmet
at 500 mts and it penatrated, and if you don't believe me go join a Unit and do it for yourself

[Chops]

Hey C

Just heard about this too. SASR have been experiencing problems with the foregrip cooking up in prolonged firefights. Forward grip helps but doesn't solve the problem apparantly. These are on the M4A5. I wonder if the C8 has similar issues?

SASR originally went for the M4 because it operates much more favourably in water environs than the issue F88 plus the RIS kit allows for tons of gadgets on an M4. Wondering whether we might see a return to the Dentists using F88s as I've never heard of overheating problems with it. Embarrasing for 4RAR and TAG East- they've just sourced a ****load of M4s!

Cheers, Chops

[Austin Pancamo]

Chumboy is right. The difference is un-noticed. The m4 was made for CQB and is extremely accurate. Because the m4 has the rail interface system it can and usually is equipped with the ACOG reflex sight which is unbelievably accurate, except many of your F.A.S.T guys prefer iron sights due to more durability when jumping through windows etc.. The reflex sight is more likely to get banged up. Here are the specs for both weapon systems:

M16A2: Max Effective range on a point target: 550m
Max effect range on an area target: 800m
Max range:3534m

M4CQBW: Max effective range on a point target: 500m
Max effective range area target: 600m
Max range:3600m

Don't ask me why the range of the m4 is greater, because I don't know.