Has this Vehicle been discussed here?

[HELEX]

"Minotor Stalker" Scout vehicle from Belarus, looks like a good concept:

http://www.minotor-service.com/index.php?page=2t&lang=en

The launchers are retractable, for better stealth characteristics.

http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/lc-2t-01.jpg

http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-02.jpg

http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/2t-03.jpg

I like the design ;)

[Hullebullen]

Looks pretty nifty. Have you found any other info?

[Javehn]

"2T Stalker" from Belarus Minotor-Service . Been readin about this long time ago ...

[Marmot1]

ukraine or belarus??? :roll:

[RomanS]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!

[Javehn]

Belarus

[Marmot1]

belarus...

another interesting concept
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-01.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-02.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-03.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-1.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-2.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-3.jpg

[EvanL]

Does Belarus actually have the money to fund such a program though?
They were hit pretty hard economically after the fall of the warsaw pact.
BTW-Interesting tidbit about Belarus. Wayne Gretzkys grandfather emigrated to Canada from Belarus.

[Marmot1]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!
and not Russia ! ;)

[RomanS]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!
and not Russia ! ;)

Belo - RUSSIA !

[Marmot1]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!
and not Russia ! ;)

Belo - RUSSIA !
Belo - RUS not RUSSIA... to be correct... :lol:

[RomanS]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!
and not Russia ! ;)

Belo - RUSSIA !
Belo - RUS not RUSSIA... to be correct... :lol:

Marmot, stop being jelaous.

Belorussia is our brothers, and I am quite positive that Russians from KurganMash and NijniTagil were involved with the R&D.

[Haiw]

belarus...

another interesting concept
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-01.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-02.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3t-03.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-1.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-2.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/gfx/3-3.jpg
Somewhat reminds me of the old Bren carrier... :D

[Marmot1]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!
and not Russia ! ;)

Belo - RUSSIA !
Belo - RUS not RUSSIA... to be correct... :lol:

Marmot, stop being jelaous.

Belorussia is our brothers, and I am quite positive that Russians from KurganMash and NijniTagil were involved with the R&D.

I am not jelaous... relax, but it is not russian constuction as well (altrough based on russian construction)



http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/freebudanov.jpg
^Isn't that this rapist and murderer who was sentenced by Russian court for killing 18y chechenyan girl???
here is some info about your "hero"

http://www.amnesty.org/russia/kheda_update.html

http://tchetchenieparis.free.fr/text/budanov-21-5-01.htm

And his victim

http://www.amnesty.org/russia/images/photos/chechnya_leaflet_200pixels.jpg

Kheda Kungaeva’s parents with photographs of their daughter as they remember her and as she was found.
© Paula Allen

[Operation Ivy]

it looks cool :D

[Russian Texan]

Marmot1, normally I am trying to ignore your posts because they are neither informative or objective but this is way over the line.
Listen you, pimple faced human rights activist, yes Budanov killed her and the bitch deserved to die... Although I wished that instead of killing just her he would have WASTED HER ENTIRE FAMILY.

Why don't you post a picture here with that "innocent girl" holding an SVD "hunting" rifle?
Why don't you post here about how her parents and relatives behaved themselves and what they have said during the trial?
I guess because if you do, everyone will see what kind of fact twisting, lying sob you are...

Listen you little bitch, before you go to bed tonight pray to God and thank him that me and you are on different continents because God knows if you were here now - I'd rip you apart with my bare hands!!!!
You can say or insult me anyway you want, I could care less what little losers like you think about me, but I'd f*** mutilate anyone who disrespects or insults a combat officer...
Bitch, you are no different from those hippie losers who spitted on the uniforms of the Vietnam vets and called them babby killers. If I only could go back in time, I'd personally waste any and every hippie motherf*** !

For those who don't know, Col. Budanov killed "innocent chechen girl" who entertained herself by shooting russian soldiers.
Watch a movie "Check point" to get an idea what I am talking about.

If the child, an elderly, boy, girl, men, woman or whoever pickes up a gun and starts shooting at me or my soldiers - I am not going to think about Geneva convetion and hyppocrisy ridden human rights, I am going to F*** waste them...

[Apogee]

Bitch, you are no different from those hippie losers who spitted on the uniforms of the Vietnam vets and called them babby killers. If I only could go back in time, I'd personally waste any and every hippie motherf*** !


If the child, an elderly, boy, girl, men, woman or whoever pickes up a gun and starts shooting at me or my soldiers - I am not going to think about Geneva convetion and hyppocrisy ridden human rights, I am going to F*** waste them...

You'll make a fine officer/soldier one day. We don't fight because we want to fight. We fight to give those hippies the right to say what they want. We fight to up hold the human rights outlined in the Geneva convention. I hope that you never enter the US military, because honestly, we don't need people like this.

[Marmot1]

Marmot1, normally I am trying to ignore your posts because they are neither informative or objective but this is way over the line.
Listen you, pimple faced human rights activist, yes Budanov killed her and the bitch deserved to die... Although I wished that instead of killing just her he would have WASTED HER ENTIRE FAMILY.

Why don't you post a picture here with that "innocent girl" holding an SVD "hunting" rifle?
Why don't you post here about how her parents and relatives behaved themselves and what they have said during the trial?
I guess because if you do, everyone will see what kind of fact twisting, lying sob you are...

Listen you little bitch, before you go to bed tonight pray to God and thank him that me and you are on different continents because God knows if you were here now - I'd rip you apart with my bare hands!!!!
You can say or insult me anyway you want, I could care less what little losers like you think about me, but I'd f*** mutilate anyone who disrespects or insults a combat officer...
Bitch, you are no different from those hippie losers who spitted on the uniforms of the Vietnam vets and called them babby killers. If I only could go back in time, I'd personally waste any and every hippie motherf*** !

For those who don't know, Col. Budanov killed "innocent chechen girl" who entertained herself by shooting russian soldiers.
Watch a movie "Check point" to get an idea what I am talking about.

If the child, an elderly, boy, girl, men, woman or whoever pickes up a gun and starts shooting at me or my soldiers - I am not going to think about Geneva convetion and hyppocrisy ridden human rights, I am going to F*** waste them...

Yeah, now we see how retarded you are.... murdering and raping unarmed person no mather if she was guerilla fighter or not is war crime. Nothing more nothing less... I am not going insult you since everybody who read your text see how immature idiot you are.

[kinghk]

Bitch, you are no different from those hippie losers who spitted on the uniforms of the Vietnam vets and called them babby killers. If I only could go back in time, I'd personally waste any and every hippie motherf*** !


If the child, an elderly, boy, girl, men, woman or whoever pickes up a gun and starts shooting at me or my soldiers - I am not going to think about Geneva convetion and hyppocrisy ridden human rights, I am going to F*** waste them...

You'll make a fine officer/soldier one day. We don't fight because we want to fight. We fight to give those hippies the right to say what they want. We fight to up hold the human rights outlined in the Geneva convention. I hope that you never enter the US military, because honestly, we don't need people like this.

I hope he doesen't join any military.

PermskiiOMON & Russian: Why the fvck did you move to the US if you are so damn patriotic?

[George W. Bush]

Sorry you can't rape enemy chicks even if they are shooting at you. That's why your pal Budanov is going to jail for a long time.

[Backis]

Not Poland!

and not Finland !

and definately not Sweden !

BELORUS!!!!!

Oh go sit on a cactus... :bash:

[Apogee]

Let me set something straight before everyone starts freaking out. I'm not anti-Russian. Infact, I spent an entire year studying the Russian language and really enjoyed it. I'm really not anti- anything when it comes to nationalities or backgrounds. And I think its great to have pride in your heratige. But that does not mean that you need to condone every action conducted by your home country. If someone in the Army does something unacceptable we deal with that and they face the proper punishment, thats called professionalism. Anyways, I didn't want you guys to think that I'm some Russian hater or anything like that. I just really don't like the way you see some things.

[16 OBr SpN]

Yeah, now we see how retarded you are.... murdering and raping unarmed person no mather if she was guerilla fighter or not is war crime. Nothing more nothing less... I am not going insult you since everybody who read your text see how immature idiot you are.

Budanov had been officially accused under three articles of Criminal Code: 286th (Abuse of authority); 126th (Kidnapping); 105th (Murder). The rape charges have been dropped after the accusing party insisted on their own exam, and results were negative.
If it comes out that he's guilty, they'll put him in jail. Plain and simple.

WTF else is there to discuss?

[Javehn]

I had a friend that was a tank driver in 160 brigade , during the time Budanov was the commander of it . He said that Budanov was great commander , and only thanks to him they had a really long time without any dead soldier .
Not only the body get's heart in the war . Menthal health can be down without a problem , if someone don't have strong stumic . That what happened to Budanov . He was injured , but not on his body . He was very unstable during his last days in freedom , as far as i know it happened after some serious battle on one hill , where his tankers fought as infantry , and held 3 days i think , without any help .

[Kingpin]

Sorry you can't rape enemy chicks even if they are shooting at you. That's why your pal Budanov is going to jail for a long time.

Rape wasn't proved on court. Only murder during interrogation.

[Uninen]

I have some good pics of this one.. from years back.. (2000?), but again no way of making the digital.. :(

[lekomin]

it looks cool :D
well I may sound pessimistic but it looks just too cool. like a BMP with a mock up turret. I know there was was presentation for foreign jurnalists (there was a story on the vehicle in polish military technology magazine) but AFAIK there were not able to actually touch the vehicle and the turret was draped in the camo net.
take care
lekomin inc