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Dominique
04-06-2006, 06:02 PM
Commando graduates look to future
By U.S. Navy Journalist 2nd Class John J. Pistone| MNSTC-I Public Affairs Office

BAGHDAD , Iraq — The Iraqi Army took another step forward in combating terrorism and insurgency March 22 when 139 elite soldiers graduated from the Iraqi Special Operations Forces Commando Course.

The soldiers, now called commandos, underwent an intensive three-week course designed to mold them into elite soldiers and commando unit members.

To be considered for the commando course, candidates must serve in the army, volunteer for the course and undergo an intensive medical, psychological and physical screening process.

According to the Coalition ISOF team sergeant, who requested that his identity be withheld due to security concerns, this course takes the Iraqi soldiers beyond what they have already been taught in the army.

“This course is patterned after the U.S. Army’s Ranger School,” he said.

“They learn close-quarter marksmanship, advanced room clearing and various other specialized techniques.”

According to the sergeant, this course is as intensive as any U.S. Special Operations course.

“It is not watered down training, there are no quotas to meet or ulterior motives in pushing soldiers through,” he said. “We make it as hard for them to pass as possible, at the same time we teach them all the skills they need to complete the course – the rest comes down to discipline and heart.”

He said the most important aspect of the course is training students how to be full-time soldiers.

“The soldiers were great fighters before they came to this course, but they needed to learn the other aspects of being a soldier,” he said. “Respect for rank, chain of command, basic standards of conduct and the understanding that you are a soldier 24 hours a day is what we have focused on.”

He said that in the past these soldiers would go into battle, complete the mission and then take time off. There was no structure or accountability for them until the next mission. He said that their fighting skills were very good, but they needed to take it to the next level to be balanced fighters.

Course instructors said in addition to teaching war fighting skills, this course was designed to be a Primary Leadership Development Course, similar to the junior noncommissioned officers course found in the U.S. military. They said they push the students to be proactive and to use their NCOs. Instructors also talk of the bond between U.S. Special Forces Soldiers when trying to convey the importance of teamwork to the commandos in training.

One newly graduated commando said that from day one, they were encouraged and expected to take the lead in various situations.

“We were pushed to make decisions on our own, which is much different than what we were taught before,” he said through an interpreter.

According to Iraqi Army Col. Al Sheik Fadhle-Jamel-Al-Barwarie, ISOF commander, this course teaches Iraqi soldiers the importance of putting aside their personal beliefs for a common cause.

“I tell all of those that go through this course that first and foremost you are Iraqi,” Al-Barwarie said. “It doesn’t matter how much money you have, where your family comes from or what your religious background is, you are an Iraqi soldier, and you have to put the country above all else.”

He said it’s important for the soldiers to stop differentiating between Coalition and Iraqi troops.

“The Americans, British and the rest of the Coalition are our brothers, they are our family we are in this fight together and we will back each other up as needed … there is only one Iraq, one country and we need to realize we are one army,” he said.

He also commented that Iraq belongs to the Iraqi people, not the insurgents and this elite unit is going to make sure that the insurgents realize that their time is up. He believes the soldiers and the Iraqi people need to work together to disband the militias.

“We, (the commandos), go out on missions every night and we are determined to stop the criminal activity. If you are a terrorist, extremist, insurgent or helping those that are, we will find you and take you down. We will not stop or rest until we do,” Al-Barwarie said.

According to ISOF advisors, the commandos are making a significant difference in the war on terrorism, evidenced by the amount of material insurgents leave behind.

Large caches of supplies used to be the norm but since the commandos have been making strikes, they are finding that the supply chain has been disrupted, they said.

According to Al Barwarie, the insurgents have a cycle in which they operate.

“Normally they observe, plan, gather resources, attack and then try to observe how the Iraqi and Coalition forces react. By striking every night we are interrupting that cycle and throwing them off course,” he said.

According to the ISOF team sergeant this unit is extremely good at accomplishing their mission. He warned that the insurgents should be very afraid of them, but that the general public has nothing to fear.

“They are extremely precise,” he said. “There has not been one instance of collateral damage caused by the commandos. They have great intelligence gathering skills, know who they are targeting and when they strike, they only take that target down.”

He also noted that the commandos are national in scope, which means they can be used in any part of the country. He said they are large enough that they can be on missions in Fallujah and Ramadi and still have the resources necessary to strike in Baghdad as well.

He added that they are on-call 24 hours a day and are ready to roll at a moment’s notice.

“When I was young, I dreamed of becoming Special Forces,” said Ali, one of the graduating commandos through an interpreter. “I had seen movies of the U.S. Special Forces and wanted to be like them.”

He said under the old regime that option was not available.

He said the course was extremely difficult, but he expected it to be. He added that he believes there is no easy road to being considered elite and that is what the graduates have accomplished by completing this course.

“The Iraqi people are tired of the terrorists, extremists and instability and this unit fights that … I am very proud that I am part of this special unit that will help stabilize this country,” he said. “The terrorists have had their time. This is our time now.”

Pindeho
04-06-2006, 06:17 PM
3 weeks ain't really enough time to be called Commandos!

East Scout
04-06-2006, 06:22 PM
Good for them.........Were any of them sent to the US or coalition countries for training?

Redux
04-06-2006, 07:08 PM
3 weeks ain't really enough time to be called Commandos!

can you provide some reasoning for your claim

One?
04-06-2006, 07:57 PM
3 weeks ain't really enough time to be called Commandos!

Maybe they had previous training in the old iraqi army and they were just given a refresher course in NATO standards.

el borracho
04-06-2006, 08:20 PM
In Arabic militaries, the term commandos (in Arabic it's "mugawir" if you wanted to know) is thrown around kind of loosely. We tend to think of SOCOM and Tom Clancy when we hear "commandos" but to them, just about any soldier that has training above a basic grunt they call a commando. So any type of "special ops" or "counter____" unit probably applies.

SOG
04-06-2006, 09:28 PM
good for them, hopefully they can join the (black skorpions?) in kicking ass and be used effectively and properly after the US leaves.

oregongrunt
04-06-2006, 09:38 PM
All that in a three week course? I hope they do well.

AmericanImperialist
04-06-2006, 09:57 PM
Well they're going to get more combat experience than many western spec ops units will see.

14rdb
04-06-2006, 10:16 PM
Note: this commando unit is not the same as the Iraqi Counterterrorism Task Force, which gets more intensive training and is better equipped.

Both units are quickly gaining an incredible amount of on the job experience.

From: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1039654-1,00.html:

The Iraqi Special Forces Brigade, or ISOF, is made of two distinct parts. The 36th Commando Battalion, famed for its tenacity in battle, is a hard core of elite troops trained in urban combat and reconnaissance who are put through what their U.S. trainers dub "Ranger school-lite". Applicants for the 36th are carefully screened for criminal or insurgent connections. Many have past military experience. Under the Green Berets' tutelage they endure a three-week initial training course designed to elevate their fighting skills and build a cohesion even the veteran fighters have not known before. Their marksmanship drills make them far superior to their army colleagues. Comparing the U.S. regimen to those from his days in Saddam's army and later as a Kurdish peshmerga officer, the 36th Commando school commander says "the Americans' training kicks the Iraqis' ass".

The ISOF brigade's other component is the Counterterrorism Task Force, modeled on the U.S. Delta Force. With more intensive weapons training, and specialist skills such as fast-roping from helicopters, the CTF is more adept in the arts of close-quarter combat, like those needed when storming a house to rescue hostages. While the Commandos wear Iraqi uniforms and carry Belgian-made Kalashnikov knockoffs, the CTF members don U.S. fatigues, carry cut-down M-4 carbines, travel in armored Humvees rather than open-back trucks, have modern communications equipment and pack sniper rifles and heavy weapons such as AT-4 anti-tank missiles. When CTF soldiers queued on Jan. 30 at a Baghdad polling station to vote people confused them with their American counterparts.

-stk-
04-06-2006, 11:24 PM
does anyone know how high the failure rate is in this 3 week course?

SPQR
04-07-2006, 03:22 AM
they endure a three-week initial training course
I think the key words here are initial training I would hope that those 3 weeks are to weed out those physically or mentally unable to rate more indepth "on the job" training. Basicly lots of PT, weapon cleanings and screaming DI's. If 3 weeks was infact the total of training received, then this is a complete joke.

Omaha
04-07-2006, 05:37 AM
They don't have monkeys training these guys...

I am sure they know what they are doing.



Great news, hope there are 10,000 more in the years to come.

XShipRider
04-07-2006, 06:42 AM
3 weeks ain't really enough time to be called Commandos!

Their operating area is pretty well defined - the desert! With little
doubt their curriculum was limited to their domestic area of operations.
How much emphasis would be put on maritime ops? Mountain ops?
With that in mind, I would think a concentrated course might be
accomplished in that timeframe.

I'm sure there are some spec ops types perusing the boards who could expound.

CROSSHAIR
04-07-2006, 06:58 AM
Their operating area is pretty well defined - the desert! With little
doubt their curriculum was limited to their domestic area of operations.
How much emphasis would be put on maritime ops? Mountain ops?
With that in mind, I would think a concentrated course might be
accomplished in that timeframe.

I'm sure there are some spec ops types perusing the boards who could expound.

Their operating area will be in heavily built up areas. 99% of their fighting will be done in backstreets and buildings.

SubZero
04-07-2006, 08:07 AM
Yes about a year ago they sent some Iraqi soldiers to be trained over in the brecon beacons. some may remeber this as one of the candidates was sent home because he was caught shoplifting.

annihilation
04-07-2006, 08:55 AM
Thats great news, 1 step closer to the coalition pullout in 2027.

XShipRider
04-07-2006, 09:44 AM
Their operating area will be in heavily built up areas. 99% of their fighting will be done in backstreets and buildings.

Okay, I'll buy that. Urban warfare specialists. Point being they were
probably less trained in deployable tactics (deployable meaning - to
other nations) than they were in domestic tactics.

East Scout
04-07-2006, 10:33 AM
Yes about a year ago they sent some Iraqi soldiers to be trained over in the brecon beacons. some may remeber this as one of the candidates was sent home because he was caught shoplifting.

Thats just a sad sorry person and I hope he got tossed from the IDF for it ....If you're a soldier on TDY of that sort you should do you best to represent your country in a proud honorable fashion....

East Scout
04-07-2006, 12:47 PM
I just spoke to my father on the IM..He is Irak working for KBR Halliburton...He is also in the same camp where these guys are being trained by the SF...He said they arent much of anything to brag about at all....They have a reputation for not liking the Americans and getting into trouble..Infact he had a situation were two of them started a fight with a KBR employee and the KBR employee proceeded to open a can of whoop ass on the both of them disarming one that drew his pistol..One ran and got the MPs and the KBR employee was arrested and fired for fighting.....My father is former SF himself is is well in a position to make the comment that they arnt much in the way of being "Cammandos"

JKD
04-07-2006, 01:38 PM
A few years ago a group of US soldiers and Marines attended a French commando course in Djibouti that's also 3 weeks in length.

http://www.dcmilitary.com/marines/hendersonhall/8_49/features/26690-1.html

Bert
04-07-2006, 02:04 PM
Maybe they had previous training in the old iraqi army and they were just given a refresher course in NATO standards.
Yeah. I'm guessing most of them are former Republican Guard.

JKD
04-07-2006, 04:42 PM
Turning Iraqi Recruits into Commandos

Stars and Stripes | By Monte Morin | March 14, 2006


BAGHDAD — In a small, deserted village on the outskirts of Baghdad, a squad of Iraqi special operations forces (ISOF) recruits are dripping fat drops of sweat into the dust as they sound off push-ups — the corrective remedy for botching their first-ever attempt at a house raid.

“You did the breach entirely wrong!” yells a U.S. special operations forces adviser, an Army Green Beret.

As the recruits huff through the exercise in full armor, a poker chip dangles from each of their necks on a length of parachute cord. Their goal during the next three weeks of commando school will be to avoid losing that chip and washing out of the program. If they keep the chip, they will become members of Iraq’s elite 1st Iraqi Special Operations Forces Brigade.

“They get really attached to those chips,” said an Army Special Forces team sergeant. “Some of them don’t want to give it up even after they graduate.”


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