USMC Force Recon (and some non FR buddies)

[moughoun]

more to come

[moughoun]

more to come

[Aerosoul]

some cool pictures, thanks.
everyone OK in the Humvee turnover?

[moughoun]

more to come....again

[Irish]

great pix moug:)
They SOC, right??

[moughoun]

last batch...

[moughoun]

great pix moug:)
They SOC, right??
the USMC call their unit SOC's special operations capable, but it's the Force recon guy's, who would be the only special force unit's in our sense of the word......no offence to the "regular" Marines of coursep-)

[moughoun]

some cool pictures, thanks.
everyone OK in the Humvee turnover?
I don't know.......Silencer, I'm sorry but to me you'll allway's be silencer, I can't call you by your new name, it just don't fitp-)

[kremlinlin]

great pics, thanks!


the USMC call their unit SOC's special operations capable, but it's the Force recon guy's, who would be the only special force unit's in our sense of the word......no offence to the "regular" Marines of coursep-)
but not all marine units are SOC. what is the difference between SOC and non-SOC marine units?

[godfather]

Why would a "regular" Marine be offended by that?

[mobius06]

awesome pictures , thanks

[moughoun]

Why would a "regular" Marine be offended by that? because in the USMC, there is no such thing as a "special" Marine, they are all elitep-)


you could have told me you were one, before making me sound like a moron ;)

[moughoun]

great pics, thanks!


but not all marine units are SOC. what is the difference between SOC and non-SOC marine units?

I was talking specifically about the MEU's, I'm not an expert on the USMC, so we'll have to wait for one to arrive, sorry I can't be more helpful

[Beckett]

boy they sure dont hang much trash off of there M4s like every other unit ya see. really nice pictures thanks!

[Philbert]

In the first set of pics posted, is the guy in the top right picture, sitting down in 3 colour BDU's. Is that airsoft? if you look at his sidearm holster, it looks as if his pistol has an orange cap on the end of the barrel....... just wondering.

Great pics tho!

[Laworkerbee]

Nice moughoun

and thanks for the avatar change it was getting tough at work explaining it p-)

[Ratamacue]

In the first set of pics posted, is the guy in the top right picture, sitting down in 3 colour BDU's. Is that airsoft? if you look at his sidearm holster, it looks as if his pistol has an orange cap on the end of the barrel....... just wondering.I don't think too many airsofters are going to invest in a Mercedes G-Wagon just for the sake of completing their Force Recon look.

[Aerosoul]

In the first set of pics posted, is the guy in the top right picture, sitting down in 3 colour BDU's. Is that airsoft? if you look at his sidearm holster, it looks as if his pistol has an orange cap on the end of the barrel....... just wondering.
probably to keep sand out.

[spyguy]

For one, it's very possible those guys are Battalion Recon and not Force. I've seen a few Force dudes as of recent and a lot of that is not the gear they are issued. For example the brown colored helmets, all of them have Army style boots. (It is possible they all decided those are the best desert boots or whatever.)

It's very unlikely the guys in the 3 color stuff are Marines at all. I mean enjoy the eye candy and stuff but I'm skeptical of calling them Force. The orange cap is probably a dust cover.

FB

[~center~]

Wrong. And the orange thing is a foam ear plug used to keep the sand out tof the barrel.

[Danger Close]

Awesome pics! They do look the S**t!

[moughoun]

For one, it's very possible those guys are Battalion Recon and not Force. I've seen a few Force dudes as of recent and a lot of that is not the gear they are issued. For example the brown colored helmets, all of them have Army style boots. (It is possible they all decided those are the best desert boots or whatever.)

It's very unlikely the guys in the 3 color stuff are Marines at all. I mean enjoy the eye candy and stuff but I'm skeptical of calling them Force. The orange cap is probably a dust cover.

FB
you'll notice in the title where I said some were non FR.......

[Royal]

It's very unlikely the guys in the 3 color stuff are Marines at all.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5234&d=1144365233

Which would of course explain the Eagle, Globe and Anchor on the BDU pocket...

[Seraphim]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5234&d=1144365233

Which would of course explain the Eagle, Globe and Anchor on the BDU pocket...

Game, set, match.

[moughoun]

Game, set, match.
I guess PWNED is outdated now:oops:

[~center~]

Yes, you can fire the pistol with the plug in. Same with the black plastic dust cover on the M4 barrel. Theres not enough resistance to cause a malfunction.
Of course, if you leave the plastic cover on the M4 and fire it (like I did) you'll melt it on. Not a fun mess to clean up for inspection.

Good times:)

[Irish]

Moug,In the last set of pix there are two Guys standing over a hole of some sort..Is that where they found "Yer Man"??..And were FR Involved??

[moughoun]

Moug,In the last set of pix there are two Guys standing over a hole of some sort..Is that where they found "Yer Man"??..And were FR Involved??
I think no, to both, if you look closely at the hole, you'll see that there is demo chrages layed in there, I think it's full of weapon's there going to blow,I also think the guy in the 3 tone bdu's is a Navy EOD guy, just a guess though

[Irish]

I think no, to both, if you look closely at the hole, you'll see that there is demo chrages layed in there, I think it's full of weapon's there going to blow,I also think the guy in the 3 tone bdu's is a Navy EOD guy, just a guess though
Is he not wearing the Trident??

[moughoun]

Is he not wearing the Trident??
of a SEAL?, can't see one, plus I don't think they wear them on DPM's in the field

[Irish]

Must be Mistaken so:oops: :cantbeli:

[IFAV]

nice pictures,

Does anyone know where can I find more with the mercedes G-wagon M1511 IFAV ????

Fabian

[Comander Colt]

Thats are really good pics.:)

Greets
Comander Colt

[IFAV]

Hi Keveaton_05,

yes sure I know but I search pictures from the "USMC G-Wagon" M1511 " Interim Fast Attack Vehicle - IFAV "

but thanks for your reply

Fabian

[Baboonass]

great pics, thanks!


but not all marine units are SOC. what is the difference between SOC and non-SOC marine units?



SOC is a designation given to an MEU that has a SOCOM element attached to it. Mostly this means NSW, but it could be some other SOCOM unit.

The USMC is not part of SOCOM. Athough there has been a contingent of FR attached to NSW, FR as a whole is still not considered a SOCOM unit.

There is a lot of mis-information going around about MEU/SOC, but unless there is a SOCOM unit attached to the MEU, it will not recieve a SOC designator.

[~center~]

Matchanu (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=6352) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1688669", true); , sorry bro but your not quite right about that.

[Sand Man]

More pics pleeezzz!! :)

[Baboonass]

Matchanu (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=6352) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1688669", true); , sorry bro but your not quite right about that.


Link wouldn't open.


I got this info from the source from the SOCEX exercise in 99. Now, MEU Marines do go through some specilaized training in support of the SOC function, but the MEU does not recieve a SOC designator unless there is a SOCOM presence "attached" to the MEU.

Granted, I'm getting this info from the Marine 0-5/6 and Navy 0-5/6, but perhaps I heard it wrong.

I am not above making an error.

[Baboonass]

If you have something to add, let's hear it.

[JMooch]

Match,
As far as I know, a MEUSOC does not have to have a SOC element (it used to, but it led to bad blood). Now the MEU has to go through a number of specific mission sets (successfully) called a SOCEX. Once it passes the SOCEX, it can be given the MEUSOC designator. Some of those missions will/can have SOF participation but having SOF units assigned to the MEU is not a pre-requisite. A sample of MEUSOC type missions are TRAP's, NEO's, VBSS, IHR etc about 13 different in all. These may have changed but that's what I remember.
S/F
Mooch

[godfather]

I thought the MEUSOC's stopped going for the IHR rating? Hell back in the day we called VBSS MIO

[Baboonass]

Match,
As far as I know, a MEUSOC does not have to have a SOC element (it used to, but it led to bad blood). Now the MEU has to go through a number of specific mission sets (successfully) called a SOCEX. Once it passes the SOCEX, it can be given the MEUSOC designator. Some of those missions will/can have SOF participation but having SOF units assigned to the MEU is not a pre-requisite. A sample of MEUSOC type missions are TRAP's, NEO's, VBSS, IHR etc about 13 different in all. These may have changed but that's what I remember.
S/F
Mooch



There lies the problem.

I was under the understanding, from the Marine Commander durring SOCEX 98, that the designator was given only after there was a SOCOM attachment.


I have read otherwise by pretty much everything else, so who knows, maybe I'm way effed up.

I've already inquered someone in the know about this and will come back with an answer.

[Sand Man]

Moughoun, I can't understand what I'm reading while your avatar is behaving like that ....

Who is she, anyway? :)

[JMooch]

Godfather,
I believe you are correct that IHR has been pulled from the SOCEX bag of tricks (a few years back). It was there back when it mattered to me. And yes, MIO changed to VBSS.

Matchanu,
I too went to verify the needed presence of SOF forces for MEUSOC designation and it's not needed (as far as those I've asked know). Back in the earliest days it was and for many reasons it caused much heartache and bad blood between the two communities. It's part of the reason that SOF elements (like SEALs and FR) were pulled from the MAU/MEU force structure (back in the 80's IIRC). I believe many (ignorant people) in the earliest of the MEUSOC community felt they could do the mission with organic Recon Bn assets and we all know that is not true. Hindsight is 20/20.

I don't think my memory is that rusty on this stuff. But like Matchanu said, maybe I'm all or partly eff'ed up too. ;-)
S/F
Mooch

[Baboonass]

O.k., straight from the source.

I was wrong.


It is the specialized training that makes the cert, not the attachment of the SOCOM contingent.


There you have it.

[Dwikkles]

Thanks guys.Hard to find FR pics