Reasons you are grateful

[Skaman]

Reasons you are glad to live where you are. What are you patriotic and proud of?

Why are you proud to be:

American
Canadian
Mexican
German
Russian
Israeli
French
Serbian
etc.



Try and mix some humor with some true patriotism.

[Beowulf]

I like fat people...they're jolly

[Salty Dog]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat ****s that make america great! :lol:

[Haiw]

Proud of...errm...the tulips....and...errm......the wooden..shoes........*draws circles in the sand with toe* errm...and....the windmills..........oh and the cheese, yes the cheese!

[flickme]

Do you need a reason to be proud of your country. Im just pround of my country. And yes the fat people do help make it better.

[Maine Finn]

I'm proud of a lot of things, amongst other things, being Finn-Am. But there's nothing better than being a Mainer to me.

[Maverick77]

http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/Korea_-_PPCLI_on_daylight_patrol.jpg

proud of the few.......

and proud to be able to hope that us few of today might someday be able to say we are are good as those men.

[Merik]

Proud of the free ****. p-)

[ChuckThunder]

I'm proud of everyone, regardless of their country, who put their lives on the line or have given their lives to give others a better future.

[ChuckThunder]

Edit*

Damn double post.

[Rantanplan]

http://www.s04-glandorf.de/Bilder/t.jpg

I like germany cos we are über-intelligent!

[Rantanplan]

http://www.schalke04.ch/Bilder_u_Fotos/nuernbergerreise/Schalker_Fan_zoom.JPG

And we are all über-goodlooking.

[Macs.]

I like germany cos we are über-intelligent!

Thats sooo true:

http://www.rp-online.de/layout/fotos/180x143/fk_APA76781863ec3be140003.jpg

Schalke sucks.

[Haiw]

I like germany cos we are über-intelligent!

Thats sooo true:

http://www.rp-online.de/layout/fotos/180x143/fk_APA76781863ec3be140003.jpg
Bwahahaha that guy's old allright rofl

edit: What the hell? The pic changed? :|

[Rantanplan]

http://www.vokuhila-oliba.de/ralfz.jpg

We have style also!

[Rantanplan]

http://www.porzi.de/images/porznerparty/t3/porzi_oli_vokuhila.JPG

Germany is the place to be!

[Macs.]

You did forget this two guys:
http://haircrimes.de/Fussball/Wosz/wosz_03.jpg

[Maverick77]

http://www.2112.net/artifacts/volume1/track3/bd.jpg

[Rantanplan]

I forgot this two über-germans

http://www.rettetdiehitparade.de/img/heck4.jpg

[Midtown]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/snlstars/waynesworld.jpg

Canada & USA in perfect harmony[/url]

[Haiw]

http://www.hossaschlager.de/fotos/carell.jpg
The big pride of Germany... ;)

[Macs.]

The big pride of Germany... ;)

hehe, at least this guy isn't one of us. :P

[Rantanplan]

:lol:

[Haiw]

The big pride of Germany... ;)

hehe, at least this guy isn't one of us. :P
That's why it's so sad...your pathetic pride is foreign... :D

Our trash is your treasure. ;)

[Macs.]

:oops:

[Rantanplan]

There are even more crazy dutchman here :oops:

http://www.lotteryinsider.com/tickets/lindade.jpg

http://www.zeitsprung.de/produkt/werbe/images/mareike.jpg

Sorry: No Pic of Harry Weinfurt

[Haiw]

rofl Linda de Mol rofl
Whenever I hear her talking German I want to cry, it's so awful :lol:

[Rantanplan]

I said it before. It revange for the lost war. Dubya should bomb Holland for using WMDs.

[Macs.]

I found photos of Weinfort, you have to use his REAL name "Wijnvoord" !

http://www.britzen.de/bilder/harry_britzen.jpg

[Kitsune]

WILL YOU STOP THIS PLEASE !!!!!!! :fork:

You are ruining Germanies reputation. Now shut up before any foreigner hears of Daniel K.

Then we would be done for... :oops:

[Rantanplan]

I didn't saw him for over a decade rofl

http://www.albatrosvertrieb.de/pics/britzen/harry_****.jpg

[Macs.]

WILL YOU STOP THIS PLEASE !!!!!!! :fork:

You are ruining Germanies reputation. Now shut up before any foreigner hears of Daniel K.

Then we would be done for... :oops:

Buhaha... that will be ur bloody secret !

THERE IS NO DANIEL K. !!!

What ?

[Rantanplan]

shall or shall I not post a Pic of Daniel K.


http://www.gabrielcon..........................oh, better not.

[Operation Ivy]

Good ol Chris Farley

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/nbc/saturday_night_live_episode_photos/chris_farley/snl.jpg

http://www.david.pye.com/images/kudos/farley.gif

http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/vwteam/charbonn2.jpg

RIP Man :( :hug:

[mocking_loudly_died]

Australia is a place where intellectuals are derided and sports people are gods.

It enjoys blowing **** up if invited by America while at the same time moaning about those "bloody yanks".
This could be because we enjoy paradox's or we wish America would let us blow up something fun like Indonesia.

[Maine Finn]

Australia is a place where intellectuals are derided and sports people are gods.

It enjoys blowing **** up if invited by America while at the same time moaning about those "bloody yanks".
This could be because we enjoy paradox's or we wish America would let us blow up something fun like Indonesia.

Please don't, my uncle's wife and step-daughter are Indonesian.

:D

[memphiz]

Our beer makes ugly (insert countries name here) women look hot. :D
a beaver is a might fine animal, i think it could take down a bear
our flag has a maple leaf on it, maple syrup rules

[Skaman]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

[Jack Mehoff]

duci,

Like the misrepresentation of the actual events in this picture below me? I still don't see your point duci


http://www.imageshack.us/files1/backround.JPG

p.s. nice pure propaganda from Canada by the way

[Innoxx]

http://www.sausagenet.co.uk/prog/degrassi/degrassi_1.jpg

http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery09/celinedion/dion.jpg

http://www.bryanadams.com/onlineshop/images/Unplugged4.jpg

:bash:

[mocking_loudly_died]

Degrassi High was the bomb.

***, drugs and 80's hair.

[Guttorm]

Norway!

http://home.no.net/kaaare/Bilde/elin_04.jpg

We got the nice blond girls... woot

http://www.maritimebergen.no/marvest/veividere/images/flagg.jpg

Oh, and great nature!
http://home.c2i.net/mydalus/day11/image18.jpg

[Resevoir Hogs]

Haha lol a Canadian claiming to be able to interpret the flag raising on Mt Suribachi. Well I'm speaking for my grandad who not only has ACTUALLY been in combat(unlike duci) but fought at Iwo. They didn't raise the flag to signify the end of combat on the island. They raised it to signify the end of the fight up Mt Suribachi the highest point on the island. From where they were they could see the fighting that was continuing and could definetly hear it.

So in closing it wasn't Iowa Jima(wtf I thought you were in university) it's Iwo Jima, and it wasn't just any peak on Iwo it was the highest ground on the Island, Mt Suribachi.

[California Joe]

Mt. Suribachi, just sayin'.[/i]

[Kriz]

Belgium doesn't have much to offer, except for the beer, the great fries, chocolates and some bad vegetables, like sprouts, noone wants to eat :p

That and the (sea)port of Antwerp which is one of the largest in the world.

[Vance]

Belgium doesn't have much to offer, except for the beer, the great fries, chocolates and some bad vegetables, like sprouts, noone wants to eat :p

That and the (sea)port of Antwerp which is one of the largest in the world.
And Belgian waffles :D

[Ichhabe]

http://www.supportsanity.org/Articles/The%20Truth%20of%20Mohammed%20al-Dura%20Article_files/Iwo%20Jima.jpg


Whatever the reason for this picture was, propaganda or whatever.
One thing is quite sure. This is among of the most famous pictures in history. It is extremly powerful.
It is dramatic, and always will stand for its greatness.

It is an icon, no more, no less.

[Kriz]

Belgium doesn't have much to offer, except for the beer, the great fries, chocolates and some bad vegetables, like sprouts, noone wants to eat :p

That and the (sea)port of Antwerp which is one of the largest in the world.
And Belgian waffles :D

Yeah, almost everything here is food related :d

[MolliG]

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/gotcha1.jpg

http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/g_images/bbmf02.jpg

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/1050502099f.jpg

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/1006955693f.jpg

http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/BSA_in_surf_being_dragged.jpg

http://nhh.glencarry.com/images/o1.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/countryside/images/countryside-004.jpg

http://www.page3.com/wallpaper2/img/280601_s_logo.jpg

http://www.architrave.net/classic/british/am-db5.jpg

http://www.btinternet.com/~roncobb/Graphics/landrover_sm.jpg

http://www.the-sas-uk.com/embassy.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/l85a2.jpg

;) :D

Busy at the mo' so I'll add more later :).

[Haiw]

WILL YOU STOP THIS PLEASE !!!!!!! :fork:

You are ruining Germanies reputation. Now shut up before any foreigner hears of Daniel K.

Then we would be done for... :oops:

Buhaha... that will be ur bloody secret !

THERE IS NO DANIEL K. !!!

What ?
rofl You talking about that German idols winner? That....guy...girl...errm...THING...was sooooo pathetic :lol:

[Tengu]

Belgium doesn't have much to offer, except for the beer, the great fries, chocolates and some bad vegetables, like sprouts, noone wants to eat :p

That and the (sea)port of Antwerp which is one of the largest in the world.Lets not forget FN weapons, waterloo, bastogne, NATO HQ,...

[Kriz]

Belgium doesn't have much to offer, except for the beer, the great fries, chocolates and some bad vegetables, like sprouts, noone wants to eat :p

That and the (sea)port of Antwerp which is one of the largest in the world.Lets not forget FN weapons, waterloo, bastogne, NATO HQ,...

PFff you can't eat FN weapons or waterloo :'(

[Salty Dog]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

yes, staged. thank you for clearing that up. but it is the most reproduced photograph ever. and it certainly makes me proud of my country.

[Trigger]

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.
Really? were you there when they raised it? How the F**K would you know what it signified to those men?

Liberated? Who were we liberating on that island? We needed it for it's strategic location. Nothing more.

What's being misrepresented? There was an island, there were Marines, they kicked ass, they raised the flag.
Troll somewhere else.

[memphiz]

duci,

Like the misrepresentation of the actual events in this picture below me? I still don't see your point duci


http://www.imageshack.us/files1/backround.JPG

p.s. nice pure propaganda from Canada by the way
its simply Canadian soldiers paying respect to other fallen soldiers

[mustamato]

I don´t consider myself as a very patriotic man, but when Finland and Sweden
meets each other in hockey I become a little patriotic perhaps...

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v33/mustamato/Niinimaa2.gif
Finn Niinimaa (LA Kings?) showing the Swede Forsberg how to play hockey

http://www.inter-hockeycards.de/Liste_Europa/Finnland1999/Finnland2000/Finnland2001/CardSM2001-2.jpg
Saku Koivu, favourite Finnish hockey player. (Suomi = Finland).

[California Joe]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-10.jpg
The Raising of the First American Flag on the Summit of Mt. Suribachi - Feb. 23, 1945 - Photo Taken and Signed by Marine Photographer, Sgt. Lou Lowery

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-11.jpg
Marines of the 5th Division Take Down the 'First' American Flag as the 'Second' and Larger Flag is Raised in the Background - Photo Taken by Marine Photographer Bob Campbell

Joe Rosenthal took the famous photo that became the monument. It was not the first flag raising but it was a powerful image. It was not "poised" at the peak of Suribachi, flags are not "poised", your grammar really does suck Duci, it was recreated to be more dramatic for Stars and Stripes when the US needed a victory during the war. I really fail to see your point here. The Marines that raised the flag were not killed in combat on Iwo, they died later. One of them, Ira Hayes, an American Indian, killed himself later. Alcohol abuse being the major cause. In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher.

[Trigger]

I'm grateful that California Joe has layed the smack down on doofusmaximus19 with such skill. He's a true American Hero.

[Skaman]

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.
Really? were you there when they raised it? How the F**K would you know what it signified to those men?

Liberated? Who were we liberating on that island? We needed it for it's strategic location. Nothing more.

What's being misrepresented? There was an island, there were Marines, they kicked ass, they raised the flag.
Troll somewhere else.



This symbol of victory sent a wave of strength to the battle-weary fighting men below, and struck a further mental blow against the island's defenders.

How can this be a symbol of victory as so many seem to conceive, when in actuality, the battle was at no end?


At 8 a.m. on February 23, a patrol of 40 men from 3rd Platoon, E Company, 2nd Battalion, 28th Marines, led by 1LT Lieutenant Harold G. Schrier, assembled at the base of Mount Suribachi. The platoon's mission was to take the crater of Suribachi's peak and raise the U.S. flag. As a member of the first combat patrol to scale Mount Suribachi, Cpl Lindberg took his 72-pound flamethrower and started the tortuous climb up the rough terrain to the top

Major combat on the island did not end until March 12.

While it is an image to instill pride in troops still fighting, it can not be accurately represented as a symbol of victory which it is not. Thus, the image and the actual event were used as a means of propaganda to gain support and raise morale.

I am sorry I cannot find more information detailing this event, while most of this information I posted was taken from a history channel special.

In conclusion, while a great photo, it is a false portrayal of the context it attempts to embody. "Victory"

[Haiw]

Geez ducimus quit making such a big thing of it. Here's the kindergarten version for you:

Japs sit on island. Big big island. With lots of guns. And very very strong on big mount Suribachi. Marines come. Bang bang bang they fight. They take mighty hill from Japanese. They plant flag: 'We took hill! We have victory here, huraayh huraayh let's have ice cream'. Victory. OKAY!? Geez.

[Ratamacue]

Shut up duc. You're not really all that deep and intellectual, so get off it.

[California Joe]

I would not call it a symbol of victory, I would call it a rallying cry. Much like the British with their Regimental Colors during the Napoleonic Wars. If you're fighting an entrenched enemy that will not give up and your strength is waning and you suddenly look up and your country's flag is flying on the highest peak on the island you suck it up and win. That's all. You fight harder. The Marines are like that. They do not ever give up.

[Jack Mehoff]

duci,

Like the misrepresentation of the actual events in this picture below me? I still don't see your point duci


http://www.imageshack.us/files1/backround.JPG

p.s. nice pure propaganda from Canada by the way
its simply Canadian soldiers paying respect to other fallen soldiers

Maybe you should teach your boy ****inmyass19 the real defintion of "respect"

[Jack Mehoff]

I'm grateful that California Joe has layed the smack down on doofusmaximus19 with such skill. He's a true American Hero.


hahahahaha...maybe because duci is jealous because that picture of U.S. Marines raising flag is one of the most famous and recognized military icon in the world

[Maine Finn]

I am sorry I cannot find more information detailing this event, while most of this information I posted was taken from a history channel special.

In conclusion, while a great photo, it is a false portrayal of the context it attempts to embody. "Victory"

Mitä vittua?!

Are you really so narrow-minded as to rely solely on one source for your information? This is the Internet, it really isn't that difficult to find information about anything if you want to.

En ymmärrä. You try to sound so smart, but you don't come across that way. Keep trying, keep reading, and maybe you'll get there.

[Flagg]

While it is an image to instill pride in troops still fighting, it can not be accurately represented as a symbol of victory which it is not. Thus, the image and the actual event were used as a means of propaganda to gain support and raise morale.

In conclusion, while a great photo, it is a false portrayal of the context it attempts to embody. "Victory"

Ducimus....this is YET another example of your immature BS.

Was the photo staged?

Sure.....the USMC has always had the best damn PR and marketing of ANY armed forces in the world.....hell I get choked up when I see Marine "The Few The Proud...etc" TV commericals, and I'm in the NZ Army for F's sake!

The Japanese had 20,000 defenders on the heavily fortified island of Iwo Jima ordered to fight to the death...

19,000 of whom did...

Mount Suribachi was the "high ground" on Iwo Jima and the Marines took it......victory has many definitions.....that photo is but one

And that victory cost 7000 Marines dead.

A butcher's bill worthy of one staged photo

I believe your post wasn't meant as a sincere discussion of the photo taken.....I think it is quite disparaging based on your history here.

I was told by my recruiter to never dishonour the fallen.....I now take it to include those of other honourable services, not just my own.......you should do the same.

Sort yourself out

[Maine Finn]

Flagg, saanko tarjota sinulle drinkin?

Much respect, ystävä.

[Skaman]

Am I dishonoring those who have fallen on the island of Iwo Jima? No. Am I pointing out a FACT that the symbolism of that image is in-fact a fallacy? Yes. I don’t see why so many are heated. You can hold the image in whatever regard you want. View it as propaganda, as a memorial, as heroism, as a misrepresentation. I am simply pointing it out for what it is: a 'fallacy'

[Blanke]

Am I dishonoring those who have fallen on the island of Iwo Jima? No. Am I pointing out a FACT that the symbolism of that image is in-fact a fallacy? Yes. I don’t see why so many are heated. You can hold the image in whatever regard you want. View it as propaganda, as a memorial, as heroism, as a misrepresentation. I am simply pointing it out for what it is: a 'fallacy'

Hey no offense guy, but you talk as if you don't have a soul.

I think you know very well in your own mind what the flag raising on Iwo Jima means to a lot of people who know what it is.

I have no problem with someone who is just trying to spread the truth, but it just seems like your trying to rattle a few cages

[Skaman]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-10.jpg
The Raising of the First American Flag on the Summit of Mt. Suribachi - Feb. 23, 1945 - Photo Taken and Signed by Marine Photographer, Sgt. Lou Lowery

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-11.jpg
Marines of the 5th Division Take Down the 'First' American Flag as the 'Second' and Larger Flag is Raised in the Background - Photo Taken by Marine Photographer Bob Campbell

Joe Rosenthal took the famous photo that became the monument. It was not the first flag raising but it was a powerful image. It was not "poised" at the peak of Suribachi, flags are not "poised", your grammar really does suck Duci, it was recreated to be more dramatic for Stars and Stripes when the US needed a victory during the war. I really fail to see your point here. The Marines that raised the flag were not killed in combat on Iwo, they died later. One of them, Ira Hayes, an American Indian, killed himself later. Alcohol abuse being the major cause. In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher.



In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher


Have I ever claimed to be a teacher? I am equally amused that many think or assume I should be well knowledgeable in ALL areas of History. I am indeed a history student yet no one is fully educated in all aspects of history. What people fail to grasp is that the study of history is infinitely large and complex; no student or teacher is well versed in all aspects of history. Nonetheless, if you doubt the validity of my claim in regards to the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, check for yourself. Your comments are spurious as usual, of poor attempt, and merely personal attacks. You are what one would call a' straw character'

[Salty Dog]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-10.jpg
The Raising of the First American Flag on the Summit of Mt. Suribachi - Feb. 23, 1945 - Photo Taken and Signed by Marine Photographer, Sgt. Lou Lowery

http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/COLLECTIONS/IWO-JPAP/Images-Opt/IWO-JPAP-11.jpg
Marines of the 5th Division Take Down the 'First' American Flag as the 'Second' and Larger Flag is Raised in the Background - Photo Taken by Marine Photographer Bob Campbell

Joe Rosenthal took the famous photo that became the monument. It was not the first flag raising but it was a powerful image. It was not "poised" at the peak of Suribachi, flags are not "poised", your grammar really does suck Duci, it was recreated to be more dramatic for Stars and Stripes when the US needed a victory during the war. I really fail to see your point here. The Marines that raised the flag were not killed in combat on Iwo, they died later. One of them, Ira Hayes, an American Indian, killed himself later. Alcohol abuse being the major cause. In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher.



In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher


Have I ever claimed to be a teacher? I am equally amused that many think or assume I should be well knowledgeable in ALL areas of History. I am indeed a history student yet no one is fully educated in all aspects of history. What people fail to grasp is that the study of history is infinitely large and complex; no student or teacher is well versed in all aspects of history. Nonetheless, if you doubt the validity of my claim in regards to the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, check for yourself. Your comments are spurious as usual, of poor attempt, and merely personal attacks. You are what one would call a' straw character'

awwwww, ducimus thinks he's people. :roll:

[Maine Finn]

In general I'm grateful that you aren't my college History, or English teacher


Have I ever claimed to be a teacher? I am equally amused that many think or assume I should be well knowledgeable in ALL areas of History. I am indeed a history student yet no one is fully educated in all aspects of history. What people fail to grasp is that the study of history is infinitely large and complex; no student or teacher is well versed in all aspects of history. Nonetheless, if you doubt the validity of my claim in regards to the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, check for yourself. Your comments are spurious as usual, of poor attempt, and merely personal attacks. You are what one would call a' straw character'

Mitä vittua?!

And so what are you? Are you any better than he? You do yourself little to no credit in wasting everyone's time with your attempts to prove us all wrong. And yes, that would apply to me, too, but I honestly don't give a rat's ass right now. I need a way to vent, and unfortunately for you, yours is the first post that gives me an opportunity.

Voi Kristuksen veri! Juokse junan alle!

If you have nothing with which to reinforce what you say, do not say it. It will save everyone the headache of having to read what you write. You say you are a history student. Do not history students learn how to research for themselves?

You seem to me to be kusikalle.
Maybe you should try to get a better grip on your ego.

Voi vittu!

I'm going to go break things on my friend's RP board again. It will be better than kicking the crap out of her brother for stealing half of her paycheck from her room.

[Innoxx]

Alright guys, break up the ****fight. Getting way off topc.

To me that photo is extremely symbolic, and I couldn't care less if it was taken in a Studio in downtown Chicago. They wouldn't have posed three times for that concept if it meant nothing.

[Maine Finn]

Alright guys, break up the ****fight. Getting way off topc.

To me that photo is extremely symbolic, and I couldn't care less if it was taken in a Studio in downtown Chicago. They wouldn't have posed three times for that concept if it meant nothing.

:fork:

Don't you ever confuse me with that, MALE, again, and we will get along just fine.

Okay?

[Innoxx]

Just as long as you don't act like one, mate.

[Vance]

SHUT THE HELL UP

[Innoxx]

Ah, Vance... Still up to your old tricks I see. :|

Ducimus: Is that you, Ninty9?

[Trigger]

delusional19 wrote:

Have I ever claimed to be a teacher? Not yet, but with the amount of bullsh*t you spew, it's only a matter of time. I am equally amused that many think or assume I should be well knowledgeable in ALL areas of History. Believe me when I say this: NO ONE thinks you're knowledgable. I am indeed a history student That's debatable. yet no one is fully educated in all aspects of history. No one less than you.What people fail to grasp is that the study of history is infinitely large and complex; no student or teacher is well versed in all aspects of history. Really? You mean YOU'RE the first to grasp that concept? Damn, why didn't you say so? All this time I've been walking around with the idea that there were people who knew it all. Nonetheless, if you doubt the validity of my claim in regards to the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, check for yourself. Well, it's not valid. It is however, just a claim. Your comments are spurious as usual, of poor attempt, and merely personal attacks. Ohh, there he goes again with that 'spurious' word. You can always tell when dumbass19 is backpedaling - he uses 'spurious' in a sentence.You are what one would call a' straw character' ...And you are what many would call a f**king piece of ****.
Yes, that was a personal attack.

[redhawk_six]

Ah, Vance... Still up to your old tricks I see. :|

Ducimus: Is that you, Ninty9?

Welcome herr Innoxx, to the utter chaos and ignorance that is the milphotos.net forums. Yeah, Vance will never change, and as for Dumicus, I don't know if he's ninty9, though I've found some evidence he maybe. Look at ninty9's sig on vc.net.

[James]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.


There is no fallacy in this photo, Duci. It is not propoganda, and it is not a misrepresentation. It was one of many pictures snapped by Joe Rosenthal on February 22, 1945. It was random. It was luck.

The peak you are referring to is Mt. Suribachi. The fighting did indeed go on for several weeks. When the photo was published in the United States, the public saw it as an image of brave men who would win. Finally, there was nothing to liberate on Iwo Jima except 21,000 Japanese Soldiers. The photo never did represent victory. It represented perserverence.

Just so you know, Duci, and consider this fair warning, there are some things you should never, ever argue with me about - history of the United States in WWII, and the history of the United States Marine Corps. Trust me.

Duci, you really got my blood boiling with this comment. It is an insult to everyone who has ever worn the uniform in the United States, especially if that was a Marine or Navy uniform.

You asked what people were proud of in their country, and you even asked for a bit of humor. MarineDep4 posts something that he is proud of (and that I and a great many other people are proud of), and your very next post is an insult.

Why?

[Skaman]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=mt.+suribachi/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://www.bluejacket.com/w2_iwojima_flag.jpg i'm proud of that. and as beowulf said, i am proud of the fat f*** that make america great! :lol:

What is interesting in regards to this image is that the context is a fallacy. The flag was poised at a peak on Iowa Jima to signify victory, while in reality, the fighting was at no end. Additionally, most of those men responsible for the flag raising were subsequently killed in combat on the island they had 'liberated'. While it is indeed a great photo, it is pure propaganda, and in actuality, a misrepresentation of actual events.

yes, staged. thank you for clearing that up. but it is the most reproduced photograph ever. and it certainly makes me proud of my country.


as it should

[James]

I have a good life that was bought at great cost by many men better than me. I am thankful for that.

[Vance]

Ah, Vance... Still up to your old tricks I see. :|

Ducimus: Is that you, Ninty9?
I wasn't talking to you. And besides, I haven't told anyone to shut the hell up in ages. :roll:

[Elmo]

About Iwo Jima I recommend

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553111337/qid=1079096445/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/102-2040180-8884121?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[Guttorm]

Wow, this topic really blew up... :|

[Resevoir Hogs]

Well anyone knows ducimus can't go three posts without saying something either insulting to Americans or something to make him and his Canadian inferiority complex feel better about themselves.

[Innoxx]

He's probably from Ontario, or Alberta. :-*$

[Innoxx]

Ah, Vance... Still up to your old tricks I see. :|

Ducimus: Is that you, Ninty9?
I wasn't talking to you. And besides, I haven't told anyone to shut the hell up in ages. :roll:

I know, but back in the day, you were kinda vain.

[WARPIG]

The United States has always been known for it's cultural diversity. Even though the typical redneck is oblivious to this, I think that it is a great strengh to have the myriad of people that we do. When you can go to a redneck mecca like Dallas Texas, and dine on barbeque ribs, sushi, or roladen.. it sort of reminds you of where this country came from. Ever try and keep track of all the racial slurs that us Americans like to call each other? There are too many. One thing that helps keep typical human hatred to a dull roar in this country is that there aren't really enough of one type of people to take sides with. Maybe early on in our history but not any more. Even the class lines that are seem to plague many countries seem to blur here. Sure there is a small group that seem to be untouchable, but the overwhelming majority in this country have the exact sem opportunities. The biggest equalizer being a college education. Even that is not written in stone. Regardless of the obvious melting pot of every race, color or creed that we are... the US still manages to influence the cultures of many other countries all over the world. American music, movies, fashion, and even food has made it's mark everywhere. The rude, crude, uncooth, uncultured Yankee scum has managed to take bits and pieces of the worlds people and culture and make it it's own. Even better we have flourished and outgrown every expectation. We have managed to reach out and touch more countries on a global scale than any other nation has... enligtening, or plagueing (depending on your view) people everywhere.

There is no place on earth like it.

[Trigger]

WARPIG wrote:

...the US still manages to influence the cultures of many other countries all over the world. American music, movies, fashion, and even food has made it's mark everywhere. The rude, crude, uncooth, uncultured Yankee scum has managed to take bits and pieces of the worlds people and culture and make it it's own. Even better we have flourished and outgrown every expectation. We have managed to reach out and touch more countries on a global scale than any other nation has... enligtening, or plagueing (depending on your view) people everywhere.

...We are the Borg, you will be assimilated. You will adapt to service us...Resistance is futile. :D

[Skaman]

I know of no such country with such a vastly different and untouched ecosystem. Our wilderness is a massive macrocosm of wildlife and topographical diversity, covered with abundant forests and flowing rivers. We have the salty ocean breeze of the East coast, the endless fields of the plains- rich in grain, the pristine ice caps and barren snow of the North, the desert interior, the lush rainforest and humid West coast. This nation in its entire splendor is truly one of the most beautiful nations on earth, and unlike any other. It is no wonder that thousands come to this great homeland to bask in our riches. We are blessed with fresh water, and bounties of natural resources. Our streets are safe, the nation at peace. Our people are kind, the government fair. What else could I ask for? I am truly blessed to be a Canadian in this great thriving nation of opportunity. Our possibilities are endless, and I look to the future with an open mind and positive outlook. God bless Canada.

[Trigger]

Bah! I like Canada because the women are easy. p-)

[memphiz]

He's probably from Ontario, or Alberta. :-*$
Whats wrong with Alberta?????

[Johnnyringo]

I'm thankful for 69

[James]

I'm thankful for 69

69 what?



















rofl

[Innoxx]

He's probably from Ontario, or Alberta. :-*$
Whats wrong with Alberta?????

Oh nothing, nothing.... ;)

[memphiz]

He's probably from Ontario, or Alberta. :-*$
Whats wrong with Alberta?????

Oh nothing, nothing.... ;)
*suspiciously looks at Innoxx from now on*