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SaudiArabian
04-11-2006, 09:41 AM
Israel says it will continue its bombardment of populated Palestinian areas in retaliation for militant rocket strikes into Israeli territory, despite the death of a child in the latest shelling.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/7CE367E9-EC8D-411A-9813-885E8455C57A/119898/4E276F928B364E03967A63B9F42D77EB.jpg


Tzipi Livni, the foreign minister, said on Tuesday Israel would stand by its new policy of firing artillery shells into Gaza in an effort to stop rocket fire at Israel.
"The role of the Israeli army is to defend Israeli civilians, combat terrorism and prevent rocket attacks," Livni told public radio. "As long as Palestinians fire at residential area, the army must reply."


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The Israeli army confirmed it was shelling populated areas

An Israeli military spokesman echoed Livni's comments.
"There has been no change in policy," he said on customary condition of anonymity. "We will continue to fight them intensely, while trying to avoid hurting innocent civilians."

Hadil Ghabin, a nine-year-old Palestinian girl, was killed and 13 other people wounded on Monday when an Israeli shell struck a house in the Bait Lahiya region of the northern Gaza Strip.

A seven-year-old boy was also killed in an air strike on Friday night.

Sorry

On Tuesday Zeev Boim, the Israeli deputy defence minister, apologised for the girl's death but said military operations would continue as long as rockets continue to be fired at Israel.
"We are very sorry about it, but you have to understand that the military's task is to defend the security of the citizens of Israel," Boim said.
"If the Hamas government will not control these terrorists from firing Qassam [rockets] against Israeli civilians in cities and communities, we will continue to push these citizens out of the range of these rockets."
Israel has stepped up its strikes against Palestinian rocket launchers since the new Hamas-led Palestinian government took power two weeks ago.
Islamic Jihad, which has been behind much of the rocket fire, said it would continue the attacks.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7CE367E9-EC8D-411A-9813-885E8455C57A.htm

Snoshi
04-11-2006, 10:00 AM
Thats bad news... but this is war, things go wrong

kineret
04-11-2006, 11:12 AM
RIP to the girl and the family. but this isnt surprising. you elect a terror organization that keeps firing rockets at israeli population, you get rocket fire in return.

Mr. Nielsen
04-11-2006, 11:28 AM
RIP to the girl and the family. but this isnt surprising. you elect a terror organization that keeps firing rockets at israeli population, you get rocket fire in return.

It's not Hamas that is firing the rockets. Hamas has not engaged in neither terror or legitimate resistance for more than a year now. So this tit for tat is fought between israel, islamic jihad and the other groups not affiliated with Hamas.

And it's not surprising either that Israels illegal occupation has resulted in some violent reaction, at this time these rather useless rockets, that don't seem to achieve anything but signaling that israel cannot have complete quiet unless the palestinians also have complete quiet (and freedom).

kineret
04-11-2006, 11:32 AM
It's not Hamas that is firing the rockets. Hamas has not engaged in neither terror or legitimate resistance for more than a year now. So this tit for tat is fought between israel, islamic jihad and the other groups not affiliated with Hamas.

And it's not surprising either that Israels illegal occupation has resulted in some violent reaction, at this time these rather useless rockets, that don't seem to achieve anything but signaling that israel cannot have complete quiet unless the palestinians also have complete quiet (and freedom).


how is it 'illegal occupation' when there isnt a single israeli in gaza, yet they fire kassams daily on israeli population centers. last year they killed 3 israeli kids. you remember that one? according to your friends, hamas, all of israel is 'occupied'. there is no negotiating or understanding with people like this. they understand only the word of the sword.

Hollis
04-11-2006, 11:35 AM
Let see in my best Arabic, Ma fish falistin............

Macabi
04-11-2006, 11:55 AM
It's not Hamas that is firing the rockets. Hamas has not engaged in neither terror or legitimate resistance for more than a year now.

That's not true. Hamas has kept a low profile for almost a year now, but they have helped out many qassams firing, also they are still recruiting more than ever, they always use a 'hudna' to regain their strength. Also they are at rule now and all they do is cheer at attacks in Israeli civilions.

b.t.w. RIP to the innocent casualty's

Ariha
04-11-2006, 12:28 PM
The responsability for the death of the arab settlers children lies entirely on the terrorists who take refuge beetween them, as stated by the Geneva Convention. Even if the Geneva Convention does´nt apply in this case.

If the arabs stop firing rockets, killing people and threatening Israeli infrastructures no arab will die. There´s a well known saying that is absolutely true: If the arabs drop their guns there will be peace, if the jews drop their guns, there will a genocide. Israel stand by their commitments, the "palestinians" never.

The arab settlers mistakenly called "palestinians" are war criminals when they attack Israeli civilian targets and when they hide on purpose behind their own population.

S'13
04-11-2006, 12:33 PM
It's not Hamas that is firing the rockets. Hamas has not engaged in neither terror or legitimate resistance for more than a year now. So this tit for tat is fought between israel, islamic jihad and the other groups not affiliated with Hamas.


Hamas are heading the PA, right? If so, the blood of that girl is on their heads as it is their responsibility to prevent these rocket attacks against Israel.

Funny that you should claim that Hamas has not engaged in terrorism...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3237589,00.html



And it's not surprising either that Israels illegal occupation has resulted in some violent reaction, at this time these rather useless rockets, that don't seem to achieve anything but signaling that israel cannot have complete quiet unless the palestinians also have complete quiet (and freedom).


Occupation? In the Gaza Strip?

You should really read the paper in between eating Rullepølse at breakfast...

BTW, one of those "rather usless" rockets had hit a kindergarten last year and killed three children.

Hollis
04-11-2006, 12:33 PM
If the arabs stop firing rockets, killing people and threatening Israeli infrastructures no arab will die. There´s a well known saying that is absolutely true: If the arabs drop their guns there will be peace, if the jews drop their guns, there will a genocide. Israel stand by their commitments, the "palestinians" never.



Really felt that needed to be said again... and is the crux of the problem.

Mr. Nielsen
04-11-2006, 01:18 PM
Occupation? In the Gaza Strip?

Yes it is my claim that there is a connection between these rockets and the fact that the people of Gaza were subjected to 37 years of occupation. While Israel have now removed the illegal settlements from Gaza and the occupation forces (at least on the ground), it's the violence from that occupation which is ongoing.

In addtion, East Jerusalem and the West Bank is still occupied. The issues are connected and can not be looked at isolated.



You should really read the paper in between eating Rullepølse at breakfast...

Rullepølse for breakfast?



BTW, one of those "rather usless" rockets had hit a kindergarten last year and killed three children.

I don't find the killing of them useful.

And the rockets themselves, as weapons, are not very good compared to other weapons.

p$ycho+log!cal
04-11-2006, 01:20 PM
The responsability for the death of the arab settlers children lies entirely on the terrorists who take refuge beetween them, as stated by the Geneva Convention. Even if the Geneva Convention does´nt apply in this case.

If the arabs stop firing rockets, killing people and threatening Israeli infrastructures no arab will die. There´s a well known saying that is absolutely true: If the arabs drop their guns there will be peace, if the jews drop their guns, there will a genocide. Israel stand by their commitments, the "palestinians" never.

The arab settlers mistakenly called "palestinians" are war criminals when they attack Israeli civilian targets and when they hide on purpose behind their own population.

t r u t h <--

ed316
04-11-2006, 01:21 PM
Islamic Jihad, which has been behind much of the rocket fire, said it would continue the attacks.

And more innocent Palestinians will die.

S'13
04-11-2006, 01:37 PM
Yes it is my claim that there is a connection between these rockets and the fact that the people of Gaza were subjected to 37 years of occupation. While Israel have now removed the illegal settlements from Gaza and the occupation forces (at least on the ground), it's the violence from that occupation which is ongoing.

In addtion, East Jerusalem and the West Bank is still occupied. The issues are connected and can not be looked at isolated.


I see... so these rocket attacks have nothing to do with the fact that Islamic Jihad and Hamas also view Tel-Aviv as occupied land?

All that's left for you to do is find an excuse for Palestinian terrorism since before 1967 :|




I don't find the killing of them useful.


For the people who fire them... it is.



And the rockets themselves, as weapons, are not very good compared to other weapons.


The terrorists of the Gaza Strip are unable to reach Israeli civilians as there's a border and no Israeli presence inside the G.S.

So for them, the rockets are the only affective means with which they can target Israelis.

kineret
04-11-2006, 01:38 PM
And the rockets themselves, as weapons, are not very good compared to other weapons.


other weapons? like what? suicide bombers? dirty nukes? would you liek them to have better weapons so they can kill more innocent people? i dont understand how you think.

and you excuse and condone sheer terrorism. its NOT a residue of years of 'occupation' that causes hamas and their bloodthirsty counterparts to fire rockets and blow up buses. you know its bull**** and you still condone this. Gaza is not occupied. Period. West Bank is getting most of its settlements removed or relocated with a new kadima plan. There is no, NO excuse for this, except the one thats in your head.

Palestinians have proven time and time again that they are uniterested in any compromise or peace, and have elected a government that says so. Yet you still refute this and try to decipher this with your pipe smoking theory that everything bad must be because of the 'israeli occupation', not because their society is running on fundamentalist islam and has been soaked in hate and propaganda for the past 50 years.

SaudiArabian
04-12-2006, 03:14 AM
Qassam rockets are useless and nothing compared to the massive arteliry and air forces used by the zionists to bomb and attack the innocent civilians .

Gaza have became a huge prison where Palistinian civilians live under israeli maniac attacks from time to time that kills and injures nobody but children and civilians

you simply can't bomb a civilians homes and say "we are fighting terrorism" .. thats rubbish ! see the way Saudi Arabia fights terrorism and learn . it only needs special forces to do the job without causing civilian casualties

not to fight with full cowardness by bombing them and terrorizing them

what does "RIP" mean by the way ?


to Mr.Nielsen

i respect your reply . it reflects the good way you think with and i'm not wondered that there are many good people from Danemark . they brought them on several interviews MBC 1 channel where 3 Saudis , a man and two ladies , went to Danemark to meet its people and see what they feel

Javehn
04-12-2006, 03:19 AM
Qassam rockets are useless and nothing compared to the massive arteliry and air forces used by the zionists to bomb and attack the innocent civilians .

Gaza have became a huge prison where Palistinian civilians live under israeli maniac attacks from time to time that kills and injures nobody but children and civilians

what does "RIP" mean by the way ?

Qassam rockets are useless , so it means that its ok to fire them on civilian population ? Bull**** and you know it very well .

I wouldn't add anymore on this subject for respect for dead person . RIP ...(which means rest in peace) .

Resurrection
04-12-2006, 03:21 AM
Qassam rockets are useless and nothing compared to the massive arteliry and air forces used by the zionists to bomb and attack the innocent civilians .
Nice... branding them. It's like me saying "Last night, Muslims attacked a US convoy". Why not just say Israelis? You're clearly trying to provoke people here.


what does "RIP" mean by the way ?
Rest in peace.

SaudiArabian
04-12-2006, 03:22 AM
Qassam rockets are useless , so it means that its ok to fire them on civilian population ? Bull**** and you know it very well .

that useless missiles falls in nowhere and injures nobody

besides itsn't Hamas that fires .. its the pro-Iranian Islamist Jihad which did so

that is no excuse to bomb Palistinian civilians with tens of shells and massive air forces

SaudiArabian
04-12-2006, 03:24 AM
And no, Qassam rockets are obvioulsy not useless. Don't try to belittle this.

its a 10 kilometer range rocket with no guidance ! ..

how the hell that weapon is usefull ?

its no way to be comparable with the israeli heavy arteliry

Javehn
04-12-2006, 03:25 AM
Nice... branding them. It's like me saying "Last night, Muslims attacked a US convoy". Why not just say Israelis?

And no, Qassam rockets are obvioulsy not useless. Don't try to belittle this.

Haven't you heard ? Everything and everybody in Israel (and in the rest of the world ) is Zionist [$insert any evil title here$ ] entity . Give this guy a time to adjust to reality , it's a bit harsh for him now to understand it differently . What you see here is brainwash in progress .

Bia
04-12-2006, 03:26 AM
I am glad I live in Illinois

;)

Javehn
04-12-2006, 03:28 AM
its a 10 kilometer range rocket with no guidance ! ..

how the hell that weapon is usefull ?

its no way to be comparable with the israeli heavy arteliry

Honey , I don't give a **** if this rocket flies for 5 metters and fall down .

You shoot on me with intent - you know what is comming back . You show me a knife - I'll just pull my pistol on you . And again - you know and understand this fact very well .

And btw - I don't have the menthal strength after a working night shift to pull down the Qassam statistics , and how it can fall inside houses .

SaudiArabian
04-12-2006, 03:39 AM
Haven't you heard ? Everything and everybody in Israel (and in the rest of the world ) is Zionist [$insert any evil title here$ ] entity . Give this guy a time to adjust to reality , it's a bit harsh for him now to understand it differently . What you see here is brainwash in progress .

:roll: did i say any of the crap you're sayin ? .. or is that what you only think about others when they talk about reality ?

read what i said above and be humanitarian .. bombing innocent civilans with arteliry and air forces by the name of "fighting terrorism" is a crime

Javehn
04-12-2006, 03:51 AM
I don't want to respond here anymore .
All I got to say is RIP

Macabi
04-12-2006, 04:40 AM
Whenever a Qassam is fired into Israel, you can expect retaliation, to prevent them from launching from that launch zone. So:

When a Palestinian terrorist fires a rocket at Israel >>>> YOU GET BOMBED BACK every country would do so.

The Gazastrip is also the most densely populated areas in the world, with an averadge of 7 kids or, there are bound to be casualty's amoung them, SPECIALY when the terrorists use their own kids as shields.

Sending groundforces into Gaza is to big risk of human life, (thats how SA would do it). They are a bunch of savage Arabs there that cut of limbs of their enemy's and parade thrue the strip.

In fact Palestinians are begging the PA and Hamas to end these attacks because they only get hit back harder. To bad they have a terrorist organisation in power.

Mastermind
04-12-2006, 08:53 AM
The "Score Keeping" here is atroctious. I keep pretty close watch on this and I have yet to see Israel launch first. israel is consistently firing in response. The terrorists always fire first...knowing full well what is going to happen. I love it when Israel drones "see" them setting up a rocket attack and kill the ba$trds before they get to launch....then there is no heavy Israeli retaliation at all and not any chance of innocent people getting hurt on either side. But, the international press seems to totally fail at score keeping.

Snoshi
04-12-2006, 09:35 AM
Saudi you are wrong.... Magic Kingdom does not kill terrorist's it creates them.....

He219
04-12-2006, 10:33 AM
that useless missiles falls in nowhere and injures nobody

really?


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Israeli Police forensic experts inspect the bodies of two Israeli Bedouin shepherds who were killed in an explosion, on March 28, 2006 in Nahal Oz, Israel. The Israeli army said that the two were killed when they picked up an unexploded Palestinian Qassam rocket which the Palestinian militant movement "Islamic Jihad" said was an attack designed to disrupt Israel's general election. (Photo by David Silverman/***** Images)
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Injured Israelis are wheeled into hospital in the southern Israeli city of Bear Sheva, 29 September 2004 after a Qassam rocket hit the town of Sderot. Two Israeli children were killed and 23 people were wounded when a homemade Palestinian Qassam rocket hit the southern Israeli town of Sderot, a spokeswoman for the Israeli army said. The radical Hamas movement claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement sent to AFP in Gaza City. AFP PHOTO/Haim HORENSTEIN ISRAEL OUT (Photo credit should read HAIM HORENSTEIN/AFP/***** Images)
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An injured Israeli boy is rushed to a hospital in the southern Israeli town of Beer Sheva 28 June 2004, after Qassam rockets fired by the Palestinian militant group Hamas landed in the town of Sderot killing two Israelis, including a three-year-old child, and wounding a dozen 28 June 2004. The deaths brought the toll from a flare-up in Israeli-Palestinian violence to six in less than 12 hours from four separate incidents, including an explosion underneath an army observation post in southern Gaza. AFP PHOTO/Meir AZULAI (Photo credit should read MEIR AZULAI/AFP/***** Images)

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An ultra-Orthodox Jewish Zaka emergency service volunteer, the organisation which recovers body parts after attacks in the Jewish state, inspects the scene of a makeshift Qassam rocket attack in the Neve Dekalim settlement in Gaza Strip 24 September 2004.
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An Israeli woman fatally wounded by a makeshift Qassam rocket is taken to Soroka hospital in the southern Israeli city of Beersheva 24 September 2004. The woman died after being seriously wounded when a mortar shell fired by Palestinian militants landed on her house in the Neve Dekalim settlement in Gaza Strip, an army spokesman told AFP. AFP PHOTO/Meir AZULAI/YEDIOTH AHRONOT (Photo credit should read MEIR AZULAI/AFP/***** Images)
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A Jewish settler checks a Qassam rocket which fell on the rooftop of a house in the Israeli settlement of Neve Dekalim in the Gaza Strip, 10 February 2005.


It reminds me of the V1, they both have small payloads that kill randomly, but their effect as a weapon of terror is undesputed.

p$ycho+log!cal
04-17-2006, 04:45 PM
its a 10 kilometer range rocket with no guidance ! ..

how the hell that weapon is usefull ?

its no way to be comparable with the israeli heavy arteliry


it still kill people.
for every rocket hamas & co. people send, i say we kill 10 people back.

good ridance. thank you

Aerosoul
04-17-2006, 04:47 PM
great plan if all you wish to do is perpetuate the cycle of hate and violence.

p$ycho+log!cal
04-17-2006, 06:30 PM
great plan if all you wish to do is perpetuate the cycle of hate and violence.
yeah tru, maybe we should just sits and wait till something happen or wait till muslim take their own things in hand, wait, this is never going to happen

Belrick
04-17-2006, 06:40 PM
Yes it is my claim that there is a connection between these rockets and the fact that the people of Gaza were subjected to 37 years of occupation. While Israel have now removed the illegal settlements from Gaza and the occupation forces (at least on the ground), it's the violence from that occupation which is ongoing.

In addtion, East Jerusalem and the West Bank is still occupied. The issues are connected and can not be looked at isolated.


Illegal from whos view point? Stick to the basics, the strong make the laws and the weak whinge about them. This, "i was here first" is basically a cr@p arguement.
Your forefathers, the vikings, jutes etc knew and understood this. Where Israel stands is a strong, democratic and peaceful nation. Untill Palestinians can claim the same as far as many of us are concerned, they don't have a leg to stand on.

Palestinians need to learn to utilize the land they already have properly rather than b!tching about the ones they don't.

budgie
04-18-2006, 02:14 AM
yeah tru, maybe we should just sits and wait till something happen or wait till muslim take their own things in hand, wait, this is never going to happen

Not as long as the Palestinians are under the Israeli jackboot at any rate. Here's the problem. The Paelstinians are an occupied people trying to eject their oppressors, but using brutal attacks against civilians to make their point. The Israelis are a nation trying to maintain a normal life while stirring up hatred and responding in kind to attacks from the Palestinians. As long as the situation remains and the tit-for-tat violence continues, neither side deserves my support.

GrimReaper
04-18-2006, 02:46 AM
Not as long as the Palestinians are under the Israeli jackboot blah, blah, blah... I lost focus with your rant after that comment.

Mastermind
04-18-2006, 08:51 AM
Not as long as the Palestinians are under the Israeli jackboot at any rate. Here's the problem. The Paelstinians are an occupied people trying to eject their oppressors, but using brutal attacks against civilians to make their point. The Israelis are a nation trying to maintain a normal life while stirring up hatred and responding in kind to attacks from the Palestinians. As long as the situation remains and the tit-for-tat violence continues, neither side deserves my support.

Okay...now I know; There are some in here who simply have no knowledge at all of history, the Palestinain circumstance and the people who now days call themsleves "Palistinians", and the entire middle east in general. They post strange comments. very much like the one above, based on latent propaganda they have picked up hap hazard from what ever place it is that supports fantasy hatred.

p$ycho+log!cal
04-18-2006, 12:32 PM
Not as long as the Palestinians are under the Israeli jackboot at any rate. Here's the problem. The Paelstinians are an occupied people trying to eject their oppressors, but using brutal attacks against civilians to make their point. The Israelis are a nation trying to maintain a normal life while stirring up hatred and responding in kind to attacks from the Palestinians. As long as the situation remains and the tit-for-tat violence continues, neither side deserves my support.

trying to eject the "OPPRESSORS"
palestinian's wanted israeli to pull out, they did, but u guys still attack israel, the **** is wrong?u want us to re-locate israel near alaska?

thank you

S'13
04-18-2006, 12:47 PM
Not as long as the Palestinians are under the Israeli jackboot at any rate. Here's the problem. The Paelstinians are an occupied people trying to eject their oppressors

The Palestinains can't be considerd an "occupied people", as this kind of contradicts the fact that they have their own autonomy in the form of the PA. Heck, they can even vote in terrorists who call for Israel's disturction to head the government.



but using brutal attacks against civilians to make their point.


The group that carried out the last suicied bombing attack (Islamic Jihad) calls for Israel's distruction and replacing it with an Islamic theocracy.

Where exactly is the "occupation" and "oppression" of the Palestinians in that agenda?

Mastermind
04-18-2006, 02:02 PM
Yeah...where is the "oppression"? If the Palis would just quit messing with Israel...things might be a bit different for them.